Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-24 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda 
On 19-Jan-2011, at 3:27 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:

> I know about E2E networks already (hi Tarun!), and it's really the
> leading alternative. It is also more expensive than Linode, but not
> disproportionately so.

I'll add a +1 for them. Been at E2E over a month now with no concerns. Great 
roundtrip too. However, Cheeni was complaining today that my E2E hosted website 
was simply not loading for him from Zurich, so I'm not sure where the 
connection choked.

Kiran

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Venkat Mangudi 
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 09:00 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:
> 
> Interesting, but certainly too complicated for me to follow. Especially
> with the new "spot pricing" model. I tried the calculator, but I wasn't
> quite sure that I had all the right sort of ducks lined up in a row to
> get a representative total.
> 

Rackspace Cloud says their cloud pricing is comparable with Amazon
without all the complicated pricing breakup. I would suppose a 2 GB
Lunix instance should cost in the neighbourhood of USD 100 with Amazon's
Singapore servers. Rackspace cloud has been an amazing experience so
far, as has Amazon. Why look for others? :-)

Net4 is bad, awful, horrible etc. Netigritty servers are not located
here in India. Co-location in India costs about 20k per U plus cost of
bandwidth. I know someone in a SEZ kind of setup in Coimbatore. If you
PM me with your requirements, I can check with them if they are
interested in hosting.

--Venkat

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen 
At 2011-01-19 16:08:58 +0530, jude.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Amazon EC2 instances in Singapore. The pricing seems very complicated
> though.

Interesting, but certainly too complicated for me to follow. Especially
with the new "spot pricing" model. I tried the calculator, but I wasn't
quite sure that I had all the right sort of ducks lined up in a row to
get a representative total.

-- ams

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian 

Eugen Leitl [19/01/11 11:59 +0100]:

not too much. you'd find that - for most ISPs, singapore would be a safe
bet for network proximity and quality datacenters. not cheap though


Good to know. How is mainland China?


Painfully slow because traffic in/out of the mainland goes through the
great firewall.

Hong Kong would be a good compromise and does have decent connectivity to
india though not direct (that'd be mostly singtel cables landing in south
india)

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Eugen Leitl 
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:34:00AM -0800, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> france or europe quite close to india, traceroute wise?

Wasn't at all sure, just the cable landing site in
South France could indicate a data center near Paris
might be well-connected. Apparently, not.

> not too much. you'd find that - for most ISPs, singapore would be a safe
> bet for network proximity and quality datacenters. not cheap though

Good to know. How is mainland China?

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Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Vinayak Hegde 
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen  wrote:
> I know about E2E networks already (hi Tarun!), and it's really the
> leading alternative. It is also more expensive than Linode, but not
> disproportionately so.

I know Tarun so I guess these guys must be pretty clued in.

My experience with Netmagic for business-critical operations has been
pretty good so far.

-- Vinayak

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen 
At 2011-01-19 15:44:57 +0530, sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> That is, if the said limits can actually be attained.

Limits? We don't need no steenkin' limits.

I asked the Net4 chap what peak transfer rate they could give us, and he
said 10GB. So I said *rate*, not *size*, and he said "Infinite!".

-- ams

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Jude Britto 
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen  wrote:

> Personally, I'd much rather get a Linode or Hetzner VPS, but for this
> particular application, better connectivity from India would be good.
>

Amazon EC2 instances in Singapore. The pricing seems very complicated
though.

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian 

Eugen Leitl [19/01/11 11:22 +0100]:

According to 
http://www.pluggd.in/sea-me-we-4-cable-maintenance-hits-internet-connection-in-india-297/
France might be pretty close. Have you considered OVH?
http://www.ovh.co.uk/aboutus/ovh_infra.xml

They're like the French Hetzner, only worse.


france or europe quite close to india, traceroute wise?

not too much. you'd find that - for most ISPs, singapore would be a safe
bet for network proximity and quality datacenters. not cheap though

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Eugen Leitl 
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 03:27:04PM +0530, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:

> Personally, I'd much rather get a Linode or Hetzner VPS, but for this
> particular application, better connectivity from India would be good.

Can you give me an IP or a network to traceroute to? 

According to 
http://www.pluggd.in/sea-me-we-4-cable-maintenance-hits-internet-connection-in-india-297/
France might be pretty close. Have you considered OVH?
http://www.ovh.co.uk/aboutus/ovh_infra.xml

They're like the French Hetzner, only worse.

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Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen 
At 2011-01-19 02:10:10 -0800, sur...@hserus.net wrote:
>
> i'd rather not touch net4india with a bargepole

Yeah. I've been not-touching-them-with-a-bargepole for so long that it's
sometimes difficult to explain to people why I prefer to avoid them. :-)

-- ams

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Gautam John 
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen  wrote:

> (a) experience with Net4India's VPS hosting, and

Net4 sucks. Like a blackhole.

> (b) recommendations of any other VPS hosting providers in India?

I have been using Nettigtitty and have to say they are excellent.

http://www.nettigritty.com/dedicatedserver.php?servername=Virtual%20Private

That said, I think their data center is in Seattle.

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen  wrote:

> My general reaction to Net4 is uniformly negative and I'd really rather
> not host with them, but I'm told they've become "better" recently.

Whosoever has told you about them getting better should either get off
your friend list ;) or, use their VPS within the limits imposed. That
is, if the said limits can actually be attained.

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay

Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian 

Abhijit Menon-Sen [19/01/11 15:27 +0530]:

My general reaction to Net4 is uniformly negative and I'd really rather
not host with them, but I'm told they've become "better" recently. But
they charge a hell of a lot, and their monthly data transfer limit is


netmagic solutions is probably the only (or one of the few) usable
datacenters in india

i'd rather not touch net4india with a bargepole