Re: Pulsed high voltage?
Re: Pulsed high voltage? Below, find two earlier posts on using 'high voltage' to make CS. Does someone have more info, or related URLs to explore ? Thanks. --Bill ~ 6-16-98, you wrote: I have a friend who has hepatitis C, and is very symptomatic. He is going to start taking colloidal silver on an experimental basis, and was told by a friend that most generators don't generate correct particle size. Of course his friend's colloidal silver costs big bucks. His friend said that most colloidal silver is too big, and that it does not get into the blood easily. Of course, with blood born diseases such as hepatitis C, colloidal silver will have little effect if it can't get into the blood. His friend's answer was to make colloidal silver with about 100,000 volts. His friend said that this produced a much smaller particle size. I'm not sure, but I think my friend thought the voltage was pulsed. This has probably been discussed before, if so maybe someone can re-post the info. Also, if anyone has anecdotal information on colloidal silver as regards hepatitis, I would appreciate it. -- Gabe ~ From: Christian von Wechmar christ...@owf.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 Subj: My HVAC setup (high-voltage AC) Hi Fred and List, On 4/30/98, you wrote: Could you give a good enough description of your unit for someone else to try and duplicate it? I have a 9000 VAC 60 Hz 30 mA transformer sitting here just looking for a purpose in life :-) I'll try... My unit consists of three parts: the power supply, the brewing vessel with electrodes and the water in it. I'll describe all three. (I'll paste in some of my previous posts :) I use a 12000 volt ac transformer with the following specs: Primary: 240 v - 1.65 amp Secondary: 12000 v - 30 milliamp 50 Hz, 360 VA This unit is used by neon display companies to power the tubes in the neon signs. Here in SA the transformers can be found in 5000, 6000, 9000, 1 and 12000 volt, all 30 milliamp. This is according to a guy at a neon sign manufacturer. The transformer measures 225 mm long, 95 mm wide and 130 mm high. It weighs just under 10 kg and is made in Hong Kong - ah so! : I connect a multimeter in series with the live wire and leave it so as to monitor input current for the whole duration of a typical 4 hour run. I first measured the current with the transformer under no load, no wires connected at the secondary terminals and it drew a constant 0.16 amp. I use a one liter glass beaker. I will upgrade this to 2 liter shortly. I have a piece of plastic - gray stuff in-between nylon and hard plastic - that I machined on a lathe to fit securely on the top of the beaker. You don't want anything to move around at 12000 volt! It is about 7 mm thick and 11 mm in diameter. It has two ventilation slots on top. The electrode configuration is almost exactly the same as the Bruce Marx setup. Warren was kind enough to measure his setup on the HVAC Ultra. I'll just paste in his very detailed description. (Thanks again Warren.) -start paste- The way my CSPro Ultra is set up, there is a bar of silver which is about 1.5 millimeters thick and about 10 by 2 1/2 centimeters. It is suspended by two copper wires hanging down from a female banana plug in the plastic top of the plastic container where the CS is produced. The silver bar hangs horizontally from the two copper wires in the form of an inverted v terminating in bent ends like the letter j passing through two holes drilled in the upper edge of the silver bar. The bar hangs in the water up to a millimeter or so from the copper wires. In other words, the vast majority of the silver bar is hanging in the distilled water almost to the level of the two holes which are drilled near the top of the bar. On the plastic top to each side of the banana plug terminal for the bar at about 3 and 1/2 centimeters is found another female banana plug terminal. A copper wire connects these two terminals. One of the female banana plugs is filled with plastic so nothing plugs into it. Suspended from each is copper wire that is formed into a one centimeter coil (to allow adjustment) and then terminates in another j . A short (about 2 1/2 centimeter) twisted piece of silver wire with an eye hangs on each copper j wire and is set at about 1 or 2 millimeters from the surface of the distilled water (These hang on each side of the hanging bar). When the unit is set up with the cables from the machine plugged into the top of the water container and all clearances are correct (silver bar in the distilled water all but a couple of millimeters, twisted silver wires a couple of millimeters from the top of the water) then I am ready to turn on the power. At that time, if I have good
Re: SEARS DISTILLER
Tai-Pan wrote: h2o2 Its effective action as a bactericidal agent is questionable. Its nontoxic. The food industry uses it expressly for the pupose of its anti-bacterial properties. Now Ozone (O3) is quite toxic and used primarily as an industrial bleach. Its a strong oxidizing agent and used to bleach colored substances to colorless compounds, such as oils,waxes and fabrics. Silver,which is normally not oxidized by most things is readily oxidized by Ozone (blackened). Natural rubber becomes hard and brittle when ozone attacts it. It is sometimes used to purify air and sterilize water but it attacts everything around it (the equipment) causing a lot of corrosion and equipment failures and toxic releases. That makes it not economical to use and hazardous to have around. What you say is not quite the correct picture of o3. I snipped up an article that capsulates what is really going on. OxyFile #345 Ozone: Life-Threatening Pollutant or Powerful Healing Agent? Nathaniel Altman author of Oxygen Healing Therapies 1. Municipal water treatment. Chlorination as it is practiced in potable-water treatment plants cannot adequately remove viruses to an acceptable level. The complete control of viruses by ozone at low dosage levels is well documented.4 Today more than 2500 municipalities around the world purify their water supplies with ozone, including Los Angeles, Paris, Montreal, Moscow, Kiev, Singapore, Brussels, Florence, Turin, Marseilles, Manchester and Amsterdam. Ozone has also been used to purify the water in public swimming pools since 1950. During the Olympic Games held in Los Angeles during the summer of 1984, the European teams insisted that the water in the swimming pools be treated with ozone (as opposed to chlorine) or they would not participate in the events. 5. Medical Ozone . Today some 8000 licensed health practitioners (including medical doctors, homeopathic physicians and naturopaths) in Germany use ozone in their practices, while some 15,000 practitioners use ozone on the European continent, either alone or as a compliment to other therapies. While considered experimental by North American scientists, the medical uses of ozone are well-known and well-established outside the United States. Applications Used primarily to kill viruses, destroy bacteria and eliminate fungi, ozone produces a number of important benefits in the human body, including the oxygenation of blood, improved blood circulation, and stimulating the oxygen- producing facility in human tissues. It is also an important immunoregulator. For these reasons, the range of human health problems that can respond favorably to ozone therapy is quite broad. According to Drs. Siegfried Rilling and Renate Viebahn in their book The Use of Ozone in Medicine, physicians have used ozone therapy in the areas of angiology (blood vessels), dermatology, (including allergology and proctology), gastroenterology, gerontology, intensive care, gynecology, neurology, odontology (dental medicine), oncology, orthopedics, proctology, radiology, rheumatology, surgery (including vascular surgery) and urology.9 As the Canadian report cited earlier indicated, ozone has been proven to effectively purify human blood supplies. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Livestock
Does anyone have any information on using CS on livestock? Specifically, llamas, goats, and chickens. I much rather use something other than antibiotics and medicated feeds. I have alot of articals on CS and can zip them up for you if you want. I remember one person using it to treat a brunt dear and one cured a dog of cataracs. Plus others.. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: How much?
M. G. Devour wrote: On 12 Jun 98 at 1:28, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: My question is this: How much home made CS should we put in the 1/2 gallon bottle of water? Please don't ask what the PPM is of the CS - we don't know - just presume that it is 'normal'. I have to ask: What PPM is it? GRIN Or at least, how are you making it (electrode length total length is approximately 6 and spacing, about 1 1/2 - 2 voltage, using the 3 - 9 volt batteries bulb set up water temp room and volume, approx. 16 ounces salt or no, none production time (with bubbles visible), approx. 5 min with bubbles and threads. sliver cloud present etc.) ? product is clear/silvery, never yellow or other color If you can make the bottles 3-5 ppm or so you'd be going right along with some of the precedent we've heard about. Was it Bob Beck or Dr. Becker who's been drinking a half gallon a day of 3-5 ppm CS for some while now to good effect? So, how much of this do we add to 1/2 gallon of distilled water??? If we can guesstimate the ppm we can figure out how much you need to add to get it up to at least those levels. It also should not affect the taste or color much, either, which may help with compliance. Respond off list if you wish. This is right on topic... Good luck, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: SEARS DISTILLER
Tai-Pan wrote: Tai-Pan wrote: likow...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello Bob, snip Dameon snip PS... couldn't you just add some H202? snip Hi Dameon, There are many ways of sterilizing water. Steam distilling is oneof them. snip Adding H2O2 is another way to sterilize water ,but not very popular because its hazardous. It will not clean the water either. Then you would have to deionize it after Ozoning it. :-) snip Hi list and Dameon, Was mulling this posting over and came to the conclusion it was confusing. We can`t mix H2O2 up with Ozone in our thoughts. I think most of us know that H2O2 is Hydrogen Peroxide and that Ozone is O3. Both have been used to sterilize water. Three per cent H2O2 is used as a mild antiseptic,a deoderizer,a germicide, and of course a air bleach. A 30% solution is used as a lab oxidizing agent. A 90% H2O2 is used in explosives and rocket fuel. H2O2 is used to make polymers for *cold rubber* which is used to make long lasting (high mileage) tires. Its effective action as a bactericidal agent is questionable. Its nontoxic. Now Ozone (O3) is quite toxic and used primarily as an industrial bleach. Its a strong oxidizing agent and used to bleach colored substances to colorless compounds, such as oils,waxes and fabrics. Silver,which is normally not oxidized by most things is readily oxidized by Ozone (blackened). Natural rubber becomes hard and brittle when ozone attacts it. It is sometimes used to purify air and sterilize water but it attacts everything around it (the equipment) causing a lot of corrosion and equipment failures and toxic releases. That makes it not economical to use and hazardous to have around. Bless you all Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
