Re: Proposed CS protocol #1
Here's a suggestion. Try several different brands or makes and see if they kill anything before looking at partical size, PPM, etc. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Proposed CS protocol #1
>Another way to limit the current is just use a lower voltage. We >might be able to get to higher concentrations that way. You can get higher consintrations by heating the water. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
off-Topic Colloidal Gold
Hi Everyone! I am trying to findout as much info as possible from real people on the use of colloidal Gold, I have a friend with a neurological problem (Friederichsons syndrome) (sp?). He has recently started using some of Bob Becks protocols. It actually is giving him a Herxheimer (sp?) reaction from a "Supposed" genetic disorder. He is almost paralyzed from the waist down, I believe he will get His movement back in his legs (slowly). But I wanted to recommend some colloidal gold to him, Any real life stories, and also anyone making there own out there? Thanks in advance for any help William -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
NOTICE OF COMPLAINT
Those of us that mailed in "NOTICE OF COMPLAINT will be receiving a package from Syracuse, NY.We have completed this phase. When I receive my package and I have the material reviewed, I will explain to everyone what it means. In the meantime - DO NOT MAIL IN ANY MORE NOTICE OF COMPLAINT LETTERS! Please be patient and I will return with the update. For those who are writing Ed, it is helping him tremendously! Keep up the GREAT WORK! Bill G. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: TDS-1 What it actually does!
robert.we...@ny.ubs.com wrote: > > I called Hanna Instruments and spoke to their chemist to find out exactly > what the TDS-1 does and how it does it. > > Their chemist said the TDS-1 actually measures conductivity between the two > probes and uses this to estimateTotal Disolved Solids. snip > > The TDS-1 puts out 6 volts from one probe and measures how much current > reaches the other probe. > snip > > Bob Wells Hi Bob and list, Would like the name of the *chemist* you spoke to. I will immediately call Hanna Inst. and inform them of the garbage this person is putting out. TDS-1 doesn`t apply any voltage to its pins. It measures the current caused by the electric charge of ions in the water. A lot of you have multimeters, so use them. Try to measure the voltage on the pins. You don`t have to take my word for it ,look for yourself. Bless you allBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
OT/Scopes
Hi All, I have and Illuminator model 1036A scope from American Optical, says Spenser on it under the AO. Can anyone tell me how good this scope is, what I might be able to do with it to help our research. My vet is trying to buy it from me but he won't tell me what it's worth. We looked at horse worm eggs the other day and he found one that had two tails where there should be one. I knew you wanted to know that:) Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: SEARS WATER DISTILLER
likow...@earthlink.net wrote: > > Hi - > > You and I talked before about the SEARS water distiller. I bought one > but have not yet used it because the base that holds the water *seems* > to be made of brushed ALUMINUM! This would be bad for ingestion, like > cooking pots made of aluminum. I was wondering if you know for sure what > this metal is? The box and literature that came with it state clearly > that the condensor is made of stainless steel, but they conveniently > *never* mention anything about the boiling pot. > > Dameon Hi Dameon, Been gone two weeks or would have replied sooner. Its stainless steel in the boiling pot. :-) Best to you, Bob -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Article: "CS A Closer Look"
chc wrote: > > Hi List; > > > I went to their web site and was hoping I could find the article, to > perhaps share it, but no luck. Not knowing what the copyright laws > on-line are, I think we would need permission from them and I'd love http://borderlands.com/journal/lunar.htm Is this it chc? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS Article: "CS A Closer Look"
Hi List; We just ordered some Rife books and tapes from Borderlands. (This is not an ad) and they sent us their Volume 53, Number 2, Second Quarter 1997 Borderlands Quarterly Journal of Research. On pp 21-25 there is a very good article about CS, has anyone seen it? "Colloidal Silver: A Closer Look" by Peter A Lindemann. I am a rank amateur to CS making, but IMHO this was very inclusive and helped me understand alot about CS. There are some very interesting facts (?) in this article that I believe may affect the CS testing! They also list other articles on their web site about the moons affects on making colloidal silver. (search archives) I went to their web site and was hoping I could find the article, to perhaps share it, but no luck. Not knowing what the copyright laws on-line are, I think we would need permission from them and I'd love to have everyone on the same page with some CS information, that we may agree on in this article. Alot of what he says, is very contrary to what manufacturers have told me. Why am I surprised? If anyone has any ideas about how to get this article so we can share it legally, please e-mail me at c...@jps.net/ Borderlands web site is at: www.borderlands.com. (Sorry I do not yet know how to do HTML, which is probably very obvious with how screwed up my posts are.) They are located in Bayside Calif at (707) 825-7733. Editor is Michael Theroux. chc -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Proposed CS protocol #1
Bruce wrote: > M. G. Devour wrote: > > When I proposed the design, I considered the purity spec and the > > size/length to be more critical than the composition of the minor > > impurities. > I was informed by my silver supplier that Handy & Harmon, their > silver supplier, lists their Fine Silver as .999 fine, but in fact > it is . fine or better - that's all they produce in Fine Silver. > Any Wholesale jewelry supplier getting '.999 fine' silver and > getting it from Handy & Harmon should be providing a very consistant > product. (I'm not even sure who else is producing fine silver in the > US now...) So we'll probably be standardising our supplier without even knowing it! I wonder if that's Marsha's source? Sounds familiar. That still leaves the question: If the spacing, wetted length, wire gauge, and therefore wetted area and geometry are constant, what effect will alloyed impurities in the parts-per-thousand or parts- per-ten-thousand range really have on either the process or the product? If we're making 10 ppm silver, and 1 part-per-thousand of the silver comes off as impurities, they will be no more than ten parts per billion, which I understand is a lot less impurities than come in our distilled water. Is that important? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
MCT Over The Top Bigtime
Like the man said, "HOLY COW!!" some more pledges this morning and we're now way over the top. Just outstanding!!! Congratulations and many thanks to all who pledged to the fund. At this point I would like to hand off the maintenance of this record to Bob Wells since he is most likely to be the point of contact for the bio lab test. I presume that when final costs are fixed and logistics agreed upon that Bob will email each of us on the pledge record directly with a snail mail address to send our checks to. Any additional pledges will of course be most welcome! As to the free CS assay, since this is being done as a favor, there will be some constraints as to the number of samples that can be submitted. Two samples plus the distilled water blank will be all that I can comfortably ask for so we'll need to factor that in to the equation here. Mike, that looked like a pretty reasonable protocol to me. The only part that I see needing clarification is the silver wire source. That should be specified with a company name, address, and phone number provided. Everything else should be available at the local Radio Shack. For now the fund stands as follows: M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net - $20.00 Nick Ferraro trans...@aol.com- $50.00 Sandi swoinow...@plix.com - $50.00 Michael Mahoneymmaho...@eoni.com - $20.00 Bill VSbill...@cheerful.com- $20.00 Jerry WineBrenner win...@aol.com - $20.00 Whitney Collinsxanadu...@email.msn.com - $20.00 D. K. Masontvst...@worldlink.net - $10.00 Fidget fid...@warwick.net - $10.00 Robert Wells robert.we...@ny.ubs.com - $50.00 George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org- $20.00 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net - $10.00 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 490.00 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Proposed CS protocol #1
M. G. Devour wrote: > > In another thread, Doug McMurtrie wrote: > > > Mike, that looked like a pretty reasonable protocol to me. The > > only part that I see needing clarification is the silver wire > > source. That should be specified with a company name, address, and > > phone number provided. Everything else should be available at the > > local Radio Shack. > > We could have Marsha supply all of us from her stash. > > When I proposed the design, I considered the purity spec and the > size/length to be more critical than the composition of the minor > impurities. If we have a lot of unexplainable variations between > different people's results, that would remain one of the unknowns > we'd have to explore. > > Everybody using the same wire would eliminate the variable for now, > but we'd still have to check to see if it is actually a problem > before we could release the protocol for general use. Couldn't > afford to have Ma and Pa using a different wire source and getting > different results without us knowing it. > > Good question. I don't have the answer. > > Mike D. Mike & List, I was informed by my silver supplier that Handy & Harmon, their silver supplier, lists their Fine Silver as .999 fine, but in fact it is . fine or better - that's all they produce in Fine Silver. Any Wholesale jewelry supplier getting '.999 fine' silver and getting it from Handy & Harmon should be providing a very consistant product. (I'm not even sure who else is producing fine silver in the US now...) Bruce -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Proposed CS protocol #1
In another thread, Doug McMurtrie wrote: > Mike, that looked like a pretty reasonable protocol to me. The > only part that I see needing clarification is the silver wire > source. That should be specified with a company name, address, and > phone number provided. Everything else should be available at the > local Radio Shack. We could have Marsha supply all of us from her stash. When I proposed the design, I considered the purity spec and the size/length to be more critical than the composition of the minor impurities. If we have a lot of unexplainable variations between different people's results, that would remain one of the unknowns we'd have to explore. Everybody using the same wire would eliminate the variable for now, but we'd still have to check to see if it is actually a problem before we could release the protocol for general use. Couldn't afford to have Ma and Pa using a different wire source and getting different results without us knowing it. Good question. I don't have the answer. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Proposed CS protocol #1
On 19 Jul 98 at 21:50, Bruce wrote: > ... I would suggest that 36 volts with no current limiting (ballast > bulb) may run at an undesirably high current level; it is not a > system I would personally presently use or suggest as a standard - > but then, it's not me who's moderating this list or defining your > tests.. Ever try to push a rope up hill, or herd a bunch of cats? I ain't gonna force anybody anywhere, now am I ! Remember I suggested we'd try different production times. I figure that, up until a certain current level the product is okay, and we'd see bad stuff start happening beyond that. This may limit us to less than 10 ppm (or even lower) for all I know. That's one of the things I'd like to find out. Another way to limit the current is just use a lower voltage. We might be able to get to higher concentrations that way. Maybe our first tests should explore the voltage/current/particle size/ppm space a bit and find out where the limits are. I've still got a bit of work to do before I'm free to do it myself. We're not going to have a *standard* protocol worth using until *after* we've made a bunch of different CS's and tested them. We need to keep that in mind. Some of our attempts may *not* produce a product we actually want to use. Anyway, you're raising the right kind of questions. I'll be happy whatever design we arrive at, as long as it holds promise. Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: MCT Fund Hits Target!!!
Hey, I'm good for 20 bucks. Forgot to chime in! Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Message from Wil Cavanaugh
This message came to the listowner mailbox at eskimo because the list filters out unsubscribe messages. I'm forwarding it to the list. Wil has been with us for a fairly short time and had a lot to contribute. I hope everyone will extend the support and prayers to him and his family that I'm sure they will need. Mike D. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "W. D. Cavanaugh" To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Unsubscribe I hope those of you whom I've come to know personally will continue to write. My mother went to the doctor Thursday, a little jaundiced. They kept her for tests, did a fiber optic procedure Friday and immediately went in to put two stints in her liver: one permanent to drain internally, and the other to drain toxins externally. They discovered she has pancreatic cancer. I honestly don't think I'm going to have much time in the coming weeks and months, since she lives in Baton Rouge-- about an hour and a half away from me. With two lawyer brothers, I will be very cautious what I recommend to my mother. She's so damned religious, this is almost wonderful to her (since she has been hoping to die since I can remember.) Please send me a bill for my commitment to the project. Bjs may have my vote. My snailmail address is: W. D. Cavanaugh 76193 Solberg Rd. Kentwood, La. 70444 I have thoroughly enjoyed you folks, and have more than a passing admiration for you. This is difficult. First I lose my best dog friend, then you. But I cannot belong to something that I don't have the time to invest and do it justice. Farewell, my precious metal list. I may throw my hat through the door again someday. For now, Your Wil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS Home Production Survey
Dan has tried to send this to the list several times and it keeps getting bumped to the list-owner and not going out to the list. I'm trying to send it myself, now, for Dan. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:51:32 -0700 From: Daniel Smith To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: smith...@hotmail.com Subject: CS Home Production Survey COLLOIDAL SILVER PRODUCTION PROCESS SURVEY (NOTES: Have editor in 'Replace Mode' to fill in this form. Add lines as needed. The underlines are necessary to keep it from 'collapsing' if read as an HTML page. Upper case of the form distinguishes the form from answers. The purpose of this survey is so we can share what we have learned in an efficient manner. Cut and paste the form as needed and let me know if there are any changes to improve it.) NAME OF RESPONDANT:__ NAME OF DEVICE:__ WATER SOURCE: SILVER SOURCE:__ PURITY: __ CONTAINER:__ QUANTITY MADE: TEMPERATURE: METHOD OF HEATING: VOLTAGE USED:___ CURRENT:__ GEOMETRY OF ELECTRODES: DEPTH: __ SPACING:___ _ PROCESS (STARTER USED?,STEPS IN PRODUCTION,STIR?,HOW TO KNOW WHEN DONE?):__ _ RESULTS COLOR,CLOUDY?:___ STORED IN PEROXIDE,GLASS,SPRAYER):___ TESTED BY: ___= PPM ___= SIZE __ = K OHMS USES:__ DOSAGE/APPLICATION__ RESULTS_ _ _ OTHER COMMENTS(HINTS,IDEAS,QUESTIONS,UNUSUAL USES,LENGTH OF TIME MAKING/USING CS): ___ _ EMAIL ADDRESS (IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS YOUR METHODS OFF-LINE WITH INTERESTED PERSONS):_ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: incandescent bulb current limit
Someone wrote > > From what I've gathered, an incandescent bulb of a given > > 'milliamp rating' will act to self- limit its maximum > > conducted current to that level. Tom Young wrote: > Not true. A bulb "milliamp" rating is simply the current that will > flow through the bulb at the manufacturer's specified voltage. It > will not actually limit the current to that value or any value, so > the higher the voltage, the higher the current. To limit the > current to a known amount requires an actual circuit designed for > this purpose, a "current regulator" or "current limiting" circuit. Tom, For our purposes, though, a bulb can be a crude current limiter, depending on the voltage rating of the bulb. If we use a 28 volt bulb and 27 volt supply, for instance, a dead short in the cell would drop the full 27 volts across the bulb, limiting current to about the rated value. So what we're saying, is that the bulb sets an upper limit on the current of something less than it's rated current given the fixed supply driving the circuit. Since filament resistance varies with temperature, you actually get a little (tiny, wee bit!) of intelligence from it, in fact. Cell voltage drops more slowly when the filament is cool than when the filament starts to heat up. So it's more effective for our purposes than just a resistor would be. Remember that we're looking at the bulb's effect on the electrolytic cell it's in series with and that the supply voltage is fixed. The I/V characteristics of the bulb interact with those of the cell to roll off the cell voltage faster the more its resistance drops. It's actually a fairly clever way to cheaply and *simply* do a modest current limiter. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
MCT Fund Hits Target!!!
Congratulations and many thanks to all who pledged to the fund. At this point I would like to hand off the maintenance of this record to Bob Wells since he is most likely to be the point of contact for the bio lab test. I presume that when final costs are fixed and logistics agreed upon that Bob will email each of us on the pledge record directly with a snail mail address to send our checks to. Any additional pledges will of course be most welcome! As to the free CS assay, since this is being done as a favor, there will be some constraints as to the number of samples that can be submitted. Two samples plus the distilled water blank will be all that I can comfortably ask for so we'll need to factor that in to the equation here. Mike, that looked like a pretty reasonable protocol to me. The only part that I see needing clarification is the silver wire source. That should be specified with a company name, address, and phone number provided. Everything else should be available at the local Radio Shack. For now the fund stands as follows: Sandi swoinow...@plix.com - $50.00 Michael Mahoneymmaho...@eoni.com - $20.00 Bill VSbill...@cheerful.com- $20.00 Jerry WineBrenner win...@aol.com - $20.00 Whitney Collinsxanadu...@email.msn.com - $20.00 D. K. Masontvst...@worldlink.net - $10.00 Fidget fid...@warwick.net - $10.00 Robert Wells robert.we...@ny.ubs.com - $50.00 George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org- $20.00 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net - $10.00 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 420.00 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: periodically reversing the electrode polarity
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:30:37 -0400 > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > From: Bill Kingsbury > Subject: Re: periodically reversing the electrode polarity > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Jim, > > I'm sure I'll eventually build the device I suggested, but I'm > not yet sure what kind of testing would be needed before knowing > the resulting CS was entirely safe to use. > Bill, I agree, I believe you need to do some kind of testing before you try using the CS that would be made with the setup you have suggested. > What kind of magnification can be achieved with a darkfield > microscope ? Can you see the particles in 'standard' CS with > the d.m. ? Do you notice differences between CS samples ? > I can go all the way up to 900x with my darkfield microscope. I can see particles, and have in all the samples I have looked at. I don't really know what I am seeing for sure, but I have seen differences in the different samples I have tried. > I suppose you've tried viewing CS while lighting it with > a laser pointer ? > No, I have not done this. If you do get a chance to build something like this the offer still stands, I will be glad to take a look at it under the darkfield. Take care! Jim > Thanks. > Bill > > > At 08:35 AM 7-19-98 +, Jim wrote: > > > > Build a device to do this, and send me a sample of the silver, > > and I will take a look at it in the darkfield microscope and > > see what it looks like. If it is not working right, we may be > > able to see a difference in it. > > Jim > > > > > Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Bill wrote: > > [] > >> It seems possible that some of the gray silver particles which > >> collect on the cathode would be quickly converted to CS, each > >> time the cathode switched and became the anode -- thus improving > >> the net efficiency of CS production by up to several hundred > >> percent. [] > >> > >> Seems worth a try. I'd like to see test results to compare > >> the resulting CS vs. 'standard' CS. > >> > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: periodically reversing the electrode polarity
Jim, I'm sure I'll eventually build the device I suggested, but I'm not yet sure what kind of testing would be needed before knowing the resulting CS was entirely safe to use. What kind of magnification can be achieved with a darkfield microscope ? Can you see the particles in 'standard' CS with the d.m. ? Do you notice differences between CS samples ? I suppose you've tried viewing CS while lighting it with a laser pointer ? Thanks. Bill At 08:35 AM 7-19-98 +, Jim wrote: > > Build a device to do this, and send me a sample of the silver, > and I will take a look at it in the darkfield microscope and > see what it looks like. If it is not working right, we may be > able to see a difference in it. > Jim > > Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Bill wrote: > [] >> It seems possible that some of the gray silver particles which >> collect on the cathode would be quickly converted to CS, each >> time the cathode switched and became the anode -- thus improving >> the net efficiency of CS production by up to several hundred >> percent. [] >> >> Seems worth a try. I'd like to see test results to compare >> the resulting CS vs. 'standard' CS. >> > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: incandescent bulb current limit
Hi Bill, > From what I've gathered, an incandescent bulb of a given > 'milliamp rating' will act to self- limit its maximum > conducted current to that level. Not true. A bulb "milliamp" rating is simply the current that will flow through the bulb at the manufacturer's specified voltage. It will not actually limit the current to that value or any value, so the higher the voltage, the higher the current. To limit the current to a known amount requires an actual circuit designed for this purpose, a "current regulator" or "current limiting" circuit. Regards, ...Tom -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: High potency colloidal silver
Susan/John/list, If you want to increase the potency of CS and vitamins and drugs you can elecroprote the cells. This can increase the potency from 20 to 30+. At these levels in most case you have to reduce the dose. At these increases of doses some vitamins and most drugs can become poisons. Definition: Electroporation: A General Phenomenon for Manipulating Cells and Tissues. This can be done using micro currents as per Dr. Becks protocols. Head his warnings! Some references to check out more details Explore! magazine Sample articles. Robert C. Beck is the man to check out I have build these in vivo blood and lymph purifiers. All kinds off patents on these ideas but totally suppressed from the public. Don't be put off by the AIDs HIV slant on these, thatÂ’s just the tip. He also made a brain tuner which does wonders for addiction, depression and generally allows you to relax - Super! Have also constructed. http://www.explorepub.com/articles/article_list.html The following sites sell these devices if you don't want to make them yourself. They have lots of data and references also. THEY HAVE TESTIMONIALS AT THERE SITE PROTOCOLS ON DEALING WITH LYME DISEASE. http://www.sota-inc.com/ Highly recommend you get Bob Beck's video, paper with circuits and brain tuner audio tape. All this stuff is cheap. I have no connection with them. This paper is available, as pdf file, on the following web site (when its working keep trying): http://www.u36.com/~fredw/ This is another place with better prices. Their discussion on these products is very good but mostly anecdotal. http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html Chris Gupta At 09:21 PM 7/17/98 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-07-16 22:57:28 EDT, you write: > ><< Does anyone know how to make high potency colloidal silver and the >equipment I'll > need to do it? > I've had Lyme Disease for about 6 years and have made low parts per million >colloidal > silver. But unless maybe I drink about 3 glasses a day it doesn't seem to be >helping > enough. > >> >Hi John, > >I have Lyme at least 11 years, misdiagnosed for the first six, treated with >continuous oral antibiotics for for the last five. I tried making my own at >about 30 ppm as Marsha Hallet has done. I didn't see a big difference, maybe >just a homeopathic type relief for a few hours with each dose, no actual die >off. So I purchased a high potency product, 1100 PPM, from the health food >store. It is made by Innovative Natural Products. Of course expensive, but >I didn't need so much. I did have some die off and had fewer colds, better >breathing and concentration, but I was combining it with antibiotics. > >After a few months I tried to take less CS and go without the oral >antibiotics, as I was experiencing severe hives and heartburn. I got through >about two months on CS alone. I was OK for probably about a month. I can >usually only last about two weeks off of antibiotics. I had a hair analysis >after the first two months of heavy use, and it showed a moderate elevation of >silver. Doc said it was Ok, but I was concerned, so I lowered the CS. I >think I may still give it another try along with the antibiotics. > >This company has a Lyme protocol for their CS which they will gladly give you >if you call. They answer right away, no recordings, and are always very >helpful. >Innovative Natural Products 1-800-893-7467 4oz.retails for $69.95. They also >carry a 200 ppm and 500 ppm and nasal spray at about 200 ppm which I also >liked. > >If you find out how to make a CS product that works for you, please let me >know. > >Susan > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Fw: Source for .9999 silver wire ?
One very inexpensive source of . silver is the Canadian Silver Maple Leaf. This is a bullion coin without numismatic value. You can probably get them for 10 to 20 percent over the commodity price for silver. Use care, they used to be only .999 but more recent mintages are marked .999. Gold maple leafs are also . fine in recent mintages, if you want to make colloidal gold as well. -- > From: Bill Kingsbury > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: Source for . silver wire ? > Date: Saturday, July 18, 1998 5:16 PM > > > I purposely did not ask for a source of .999 silver > (only . or .9). > > btw, what are the trace elements in silver rounds ? > (What is the level of lead and other toxics ?) > > --Bill > > > At 09:11 PM 7-18-98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Why don't you kill two birds with one stone and buy some 99.9 > silver rounds. > >They work just as well and will be very useful around March, 2000. God, > >Gold, and Guns made America great! Jolly > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
