Re: CSJust me...
HI Mike, Isn't it time for us to chip in some moo-lah for this list's operational costs?? Seems like it has been a very long time. Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLess is Better?
Dean List, I had a conversation a while back with an individual from Eastern Canada who said that concentrations up to about 15 PPM were tested to have held their poennct for two years, but that higher concentrations 'deteriorated' faster... This should relate back to the fact that small charged particles are known to be the most biologicly active / toxic to micro-organisms; The 'clumping' issue may well be coming into play at higher concentrations I'll try t follow up on the statement that a couple dozen University studies of CS had been done in Canada; would dearly love to get coppies of that data! Be Well! Bruce http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/csilver.htm Dean Woodward wrote: Hi Mike, Bruce, Bob, etc. etc. I have been experimenting with CS for awhile now, and found it very useful. I don't (to my knowledge) have any major infections, so have been using CS topically for athlete's foot and jock itch which I have fought most of my life. It really helps. So, take what I say here as it applies to topical uses - I don't know if the same thing would apply for internal use. Recently I started making higher concentrations (usual 3 9-volt batteries, wire from Marsha, current-limiting bulb, etc.) of 35to 40 ppm (Hanna WP1), and started to see decreasing effectiveness in the CS. Recently was in Needville and arranged to visit with Bob Lee (hi-Bob), who has authored so many really well-thought-out posts on this list. Bob commented that lower concentrations seem to work better. That, coupled with my recent experience with less effectiveness from higher concentrations, led me to try very low concentration. I made a batch that tested at 5 ppm, and barely made a Tyndall trace with red laser pointer. Have tried it on the jock itch, and the result has been startlingly good. Makes me wonder if less really is better, and if so why. Could it be that the silver particles are far enough apart in the colloid that they have less inclination to floculate, and therefore are available to function. I would be very interested in the experience of others in this regard, and in any theories to support the observations. Regards to all from Aggie-Land (How about those Aggies!!!) Dean Woodward -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLess is Better?
Makes me wonder if less really is better, and if so why. Could it be that the silver particles are far enough apart in the colloid that they have less inclination to floculate, and therefore are available to function. I don't know what causes it, but the CS I make when using minimal time (like going 10 minutes after the cloud starts to form) and is clear tastes more metallic and stronger than that I leave going for a half hour, until it just begins to turn yellow. I guessed it was from forming silver oxide, but I really had no idea why. turf -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLess is Better?
Dean Woodward wrote: Makes me wonder if less really is better, and if so why. Could it be that the silver particles are far enough apart in the colloid that they have less inclination to floculate, and therefore are available to function. Vern wrote: I questioned some of the more is better thinking and got a few responses that questioned my intelligence. Sorry to hear that, Vern. With the ignorance we all suffer from on this subject there is little grounds for questioning anyone's intelligence! grin The funny thing is that the literature that came with the unit I have states that when the the concentration gets above 5-6 ppm, the particles begin to clump together. It makes sense to me and in fact I have had super results with my little 5-6 ppm solution. This is why I've been hoping to get a chance to do some electron microscopy and/or optical spectroscopy to get a handle on particle size distribution. I'd expect that as the conductivity and current increase, the particle size would change. If clumping occurs, you should certainly see some indication in the spectra. We'll never *know* this stuff until we learn how to measure it. In the meantime, thanks for the anecdotal results. Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
