Re: CSHi, am brand new to this program

1999-10-24 Thread CLHERV
Thanks.

Another question.  I said I knew about the 555, but the schematic calls for a 
TLC555 or LMC555.  Any idea as to the difference?  Why does it spec CMOS?

Maybe I could go to the ti, or motorola site to find the specs?

Thought you might know.

Kent


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Re: CSHi, am brand new to this program

1999-10-24 Thread Charles King
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:08:29 EDT, clh...@aol.com wrote:

Thanks.

Another question.  I said I knew about the 555, but the schematic calls for a 
TLC555 or LMC555.  Any idea as to the difference?  Why does it spec CMOS?

Maybe I could go to the ti, or motorola site to find the specs?

Thought you might know.

Sorry,
I'll help, but I don't do homework.
Chuck
He's dead, Jim. You take his phaser, I'll get his wallet.


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Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??

1999-10-24 Thread Nat2ess
To find apricot seed in caosule fore point your browser to, 
http://www.vitimanb17/apricotseed.htm
TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH
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CS[Fwd: CSIntestine, Pt 10]

1999-10-24 Thread Tai-Pan
Carmen, yes, watch for post. :-)
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To most beautiful and excellent of the CS art,

   ENZYMES, con`t
   Most of the studies concerning the nature of enzymes have been 
carried on in relation to enzymes having to do with digestion in the
alimentary canal. These enzymes always give a protein reaction, and the
activity of the enzyme is greatly reduced or lost if the material
containing the enzyme has been coagulated or otherwise chemically
changed. It has been demonstrated that an enzyme may exist in an
inactive form within the cell producing it and when secreted may still
be inactive. This inactive form is designated as a *proferment* or
*zymogen*. The zymogen may be  stored in the cell in the form of
granules which are converted into active enzyme at the moment of
secretion, or it may be secreted in inactive form and require the
cooperation of some other substance before it is capable of effecting
its normal reaction. In such cases the second substance is said to
activate the enzyme. Inorganic substances causing activation are
designated *activators*, and organic substances serving the same purpose
are called *kinases*. There are some cases where the action of an enzyme
is helped by, or dependent upon the presence of some other substance.
These cases of *coactivity* are to be distinguished from activation by
the fact that the combination may be made or unmade. Some enzymes
require small molecules known as cofactors in order to demonstrate
catalytic activity. Certain enzymes require specific mineral ions to
complete their active site. In all the reactions that involve transfer
of phosphate groups from one substrate molecules to another, the
magnesium ion (Mg++) is required. In addition to the metallic cofactors,
a variety of small organic compounds serve as cofactors. They are given
the name *coenzymes*. Their effect on activity of their corresponding
enzymes is similar to that of metallic cofactors. Many cellular
reactions are controlled by the availability of essential coenzymes.
Many enzymes have metal ions locked into their active sites, and these
ions help draw electrons from the substrate molecules. The enzyme
carboxypeptidase chops up proteins  by using a zinc ion to draw
electrons away from the bonds being broken. Many of the trace elements
such as molybdenum and manganese, which are necessary for your
health,also use metal ions in this way.  A cofactor that is a nonprotein
organic molecule is called a coenzyme. Many of the vitamins that your
body requires are parts of coenzymes. In many enzyme-catalyzed
oxidation-reduction reactions, energy bearing electrons are passed from
the active site of the enzyme to a coenzyme that serves as the electron
acceptor. The coenzyme then carries the electron to a different enzyme
that is catalyzing another reaction, releases the electrons ( and their
energy) to that reaction, and then return to the original enzyme for
another load of electrons. In most cases the electrons are paired with
protons as hydrogen atoms. Just as armored cars transport cash around a
city, so coenzymes shuttle energy, in the form of hydrogen atoms from
one place to another in a cell. One of the most  important coenzymes is
the hydrogen acceptor * nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide* called NAD+.
When NAD+ acquires a hydrogen atom from the active site of an enzyme, it
becomes reduced as NADH. The energetic electron of the hydrogen atom is
then carried by the NADH molecule, like money in your pocket. The
oxidation of  foodstuffs in your body, from which you get the energy to
drive your life, takes place by the cell`s stripping of electrons from
food molecules and donating them to NAD+, thus forming a wealth of NADH.
This NADH will be converted into ATP,*adenosine triphosphate*. The NADH
energy resulting from the oxidation of foodstuffs is converted into ATP
which the cells use to drive active transport across cell membranes, to
power movement, to provide energy for chemical reactions, to grow;
almost every energy requiring process that cells perform is powered by
ATP. Cells contain a pool of ATP which is used to drive the endergonic,
energy requiring processes of the cell. An individual on a typical diet
of 2000 calories/day goes through about 125 pounds of ATP a day. But
cells  do not maintain large stockpiles of ATP, just as people do not
carry large amounts of cash with them. Instead cells are constantly
recycling their ATP, withdrawing from their reserves to restock more ATP
from the NADH, which in turn is replenished by NAD+,using the energy
stored in fats or starches which have been digested. If you could mark
every ATP molecule in your body at one instant of time, and watch them,
they would be gone in a flash only to be restocked and used over and
over. 
  DIGESTION
 The digestive tract can be divided into the following organs:
   1. mouth
   2. pharynx
   3. esophagus
   4. stomach
   5. small intestine 

CS[Fwd: CS555 Timers, I limiters,]

1999-10-24 Thread Tai-Pan
For Kent,  :-)
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Greetings all,
 Saw an interesting posting a while back (several) on timers and current
limiting.
 The LM-555 first came out in 1969 as part of National Semiconductors
line of *Monolithic* technology. When CMOS (Complimentary Metal Oxide
Substrate) was invented it was also produced in that technology. The
LM-555 is now a standard workhorse in the electronic business.
  The design is such that it can be operated in the Standard 12 volt
signal range or operated in the 5 volt TTL (Transistor-Transistor Logic)
signal range. Most of the CS circuits I have seen are operating in the
standard 12 volt signal range. The CMOS version can also operate in the
Standard 12 volt signal range or the TTL signal range. The difference
between the Monolithic and CMOS versions are the power dissipation. The
Monolithic version uses 10 ma at 15 volts, while the CMOS version uses
400 ua at 12 volts. The CMOS power dissipation is under 1 mw. That makes
it very good for battery operated circuits. The CMOS version in called
LMC-555. Thats L for Linear, M for Monolithic, and C for CMOS. See how
easy that is.:-)
  Max supply voltage for the LM-555 is +18 volts and max supply for the
LMC-555 is +15 volts. Of course a good designer will never operate the
ICs at maximun ratings,unless he wants many failures. Operating at 12
volts gives a 20% safety factor.

 A very easy to make adjustable current limiter can be made with only
two parts. An LM-317 three terminal regulator and a 250 ohm
potentiometer will do it. These are availible at any electronics place
at low cost, typically about $2.50 for the LM-317 and about $2.00 for
the petentiometer.
  The three terminals are Vin, Vout, and Adj. The Vin terminal connects
to the power source, the Vout terminal goes to one end of the
potentiometer,the Adj terminal goes to the other end of the
potentiometer. (a potentiometer is a resistance element with a wiper
that moves over the resistence element, it has three terminals).
  The end of the potentiometer that has the Adj wire attached to it goes
to the silver electrodes (the load). The center potentiometer terminal
(the wiper terminal) is connected to the Vout terminal. This mades the
potentiometer into the same thing as a rheostat ( a two connection
variable resister). To use it, place an milliamp meter in the cicuit and
adjust the *pot*(slang for potentiometer) for the current you want, and
thats where the current will stay. Of course there has to be current
flowing to start with, so wait until you have a good current flow before
you set it for what you want. The LM-117 can be used in place of the
LM-317. This is a little known use of the three terminal regulator.

 Back to the LM-555. This timer has a dc coupled Darlington output
amplifier (push-pull). It is basically independent of the main timer ,
and can source or sink about 200 ma of current. Safely that is. Normally
we don`t push circuits close to max ratings, as stated before. Source
means the output can supply the current and sink means the output can
absorb ( receive) the current. In the source operation it is supplying
current from the power source of the timer. In the sink operation it is
receiving current from a separate supply thru a load. That feature makes
the LM-317 very useful in a wide range of circuits.

  Bless you  Bob  Lee
 
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CS[Fwd: Re: CS555 Timers, I limiters,]

1999-10-24 Thread Tai-Pan
Kent,  More.
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-Original Message-
From: Tai-Pan l...@fbtc.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, 24 April 1999 09:01
Subject: CS555 Timers, I limiters,


Excellent post Bob,

I use a LM-317, in this very arrangement, in my small generators.
Found it on the web as a cheap and easy NiCad battery charger.
I found I needed a 10K ohm pot (I use a trimmer) in my application,
adjusted to supply 0.5mA under full load.

 A very easy to make adjustable current limiter can be made with only
two parts. An LM-317 three terminal regulator and a 250 ohm
potentiometer will do it. These are availible at any electronics
place
at low cost, typically about $2.50 for the LM-317 and about $2.00 for
the petentiometer.
  The three terminals are Vin, Vout, and Adj. The Vin terminal
connects
to the power source, the Vout terminal goes to one end of the
potentiometer,the Adj terminal goes to the other end of the
potentiometer. (a potentiometer is a resistance element with a wiper
that moves over the resistence element, it has three terminals).
  The end of the potentiometer that has the Adj wire attached to it
goes
to the silver electrodes (the load). The center potentiometer
terminal
(the wiper terminal) is connected to the Vout terminal. This mades
the
potentiometer into the same thing as a rheostat ( a two connection
variable resister). To use it, place an milliamp meter in the cicuit
and
adjust the *pot*(slang for potentiometer) for the current you want,
and
thats where the current will stay. Of course there has to be current
flowing to start with, so wait until you have a good current flow
before
you set it for what you want. The LM-117 can be used in place of the
LM-317. This is a little known use of the three terminal regulator.

snip
  Bless you  Bob  Lee


Ivan


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Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V99 #684

1999-10-24 Thread Sam Earle
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Re: CS[Fwd: Re: CS555 Timers, I limiters,]

1999-10-24 Thread CLHERV
Two more questions:

1.  Why do I need a current limiter in the parasite zapper circuit.
2.   Where can I see a spec page on the LM-317?  Could I find it on the 
National Semiconductor web page?  I don't know its URL, but I guess I will 
try to find it there.

Thank you

Kent


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CSI found the spec sheet on the LM-317.

1999-10-24 Thread CLHERV
I should have tried before I asked.

http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM317.html

The 317 comes in a variety of suffixes.  I wonder which one you were using in 
your design.

I have never thought of a voltage controller as a current controller, I am 
going to have to think about that, and sketch it up.

Kent


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CSSilver Pacifier for Babies

1999-10-24 Thread ronurba
Where can I buy a silver pacifier for babies?


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CSRe:CMOS 555

1999-10-24 Thread THE TROLL
Hi Folks.

I think we need to make it clear that CMOS parts are
*VERY* sensitive to static electricity. Just the static
electricity that we generate walking around can kill these
parts.

They need to be handled, wired, soldered, plugged in,etc.
while we are electrically connected to ground.

I think even Radio Shack has wrist grounding straps. These
you put the strap on your wrist and the other end of the
cord you clip to some metal object that is grounded


David



clh...@aol.com wrote:
0 
 Thanks.
 
 Another question.  I said I knew about the 555, but the schematic calls for a
 TLC555 or LMC555.  Any idea as to the difference?  Why does it spec CMOS?
 
 Maybe I could go to the ti, or motorola site to find the specs?
 
 Thought you might know.
 
 Kent

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CSMiniature Metal Detector

1999-10-24 Thread THE TROLL
Hi Ho Silverees!

While I was mulling over the structured water detector ideas,
I came across the thought about a miniature metal detector
that would have a container into which a specific amount of CS
would be poured and we get a reading that varies with the
amount of silver in the CS. The readings could (hopefully)
correlate with PPM better than conductivity.

It is conceivable that a few 555s and some other handy parts
could be the core of this little jewel.

Definitely gotta water the potted plant on that one.



Later.

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CS[Fwd: [Fwd: CS Mucous?]]

1999-10-24 Thread fhlew
You wrote:

..the inefficient activity of cs when there is a mucous barrier!?

In  March ,1873, Dr. Schussler of Oldenburg, Germany,
enunciated
  his  new system of using The Twelve Tissue Salts,bringing
physio-chemical  and physio-pathological facts to bear on
his therapuetic procedure. According to Dr. Schussler, disease is a
result of a
disturbance of the molecular motion of one of the 12 inorganic tissue
salts. Rest-
oration of health by supplying a minimal dose of the same inorganic salt
to rectify the molecular configuration of the affected cell or tissue
salt,constitutes a cure. Virchow
defines disease as an altered state of the cell. Potassium Chloride
[Kali Muriaticum],
is one of the 12 tissue salts of Schussler.The pure chloride is prepared
by trituration
according to homeopathic pharmaceutical rules. A proving of the 6x
dynamization
is reported in the Homeopathic Recorder,1900. The 6x trituration caused
a bad sore throat,pain on swallowing even water,tonsils inflammed,throat
filled with tough ,stringy mucus,ankle joints puffy. The prover was
perfectly well until he commenced to take the Kali Muriaticum [
Potassium Chloride ].

   According to Dr. Schussler, the cell
salt,potassium chloride has
 a significant biochemical role in the formation and production of
fibrin. Fibrin is produced by the interaction of the chloride of
potassium,with oxygen,on certain albuminoids. Biochemically, it has been
demonstrated that fibrin cannot be synthesized in the absence of
potassium chloride and that the fibrin cannot be held in
proper solution in the blood without the correct balance of the cell
salt.

   The white or grey coating on the
tongue,mucous lining or tonsils,
is the fibrin that has become non-functional because of a deficiency of
potassium chloride and oxygen. Similar fibrinous exudations  are also
found in discharges or
expectorations of a thick,white slime or phlegm,from any of the mucous
membranes,or in flour-like scaling of the skin. When the epidermal cells
are irritated,
molecules of Kali mur are lost and fibrin in the form of a white or
greyish exudation,
is thrown off. This,in drying,becomes a mealy eruption. If the
irritation extends to the
tissues beneath the epidermis,both fibrin and serum will exude,and the
involved part of the skin will be pushed up in the form of blisters.
This is exactly what takes place
in small-pox,cow-pox and vaccine disease. Similar processes can take
place within and among epithelial cells in mucosal lining. When the
integrity of the affected
cells are restored by administration of Kali muriaticum molecules, a
reabsorption or throwing off of the exudation  [mucus] occurs.  This is
attained by the production of hydrochloric acid formed by one part of
chlorine
from K Cl with hydrogen. The hydrochloric acid formed ,dissolves the
fibrin
in its incipient stage of formation. This patho-physiological phenomenon

corresponds to the second stage of inflammation of serous membranes.

Comments:

The  mucous barrier   is due to  an exudation of a
blood product called fibrin precipitated by  a physio-chemical
deficiency.The cause is an irritation with loss
the molecular configuration of Kali mur in the cell or the cell salt.Its
resolution can be activated by supplying the body a minimal dose of the
appropriate cell salt of Schussler- Kali mur [potassium chloride].

 The gastric juice in man is a strong acid with a pH
[hydrogen ion concentration] of 1.6 - 2.0. The gastric walls  are
postulated to be covered and protected by the gastric mucosa which is
derived from protein. Normally, proteins
are dissolved in such strong acid. The moot point is: Why the gastric
wall is not corroded?

  It is generally accepted that where microbes thrive
and breed, decay sets in.  This is not totally correct. The microbes
have been found to reside only in the body system  but not breed  when
the following principles are observed:

   We are what we eat
   We are what we breathe
We are what we drink

The immune surveillance system of the body merely tolerates their
existence which
can be beneficial to the body's economy. This is the rationale of
symbiosis.

 The protective mechanism of the living body particularly for its
protein component is the maintenance of the stereo orientation of the
tissue, its 3 dimensional structure.When this 3 dimensional property is
sustained  in the tissue structure, the microbes will not attack and the
gastric secretion [ HCL ] will not corrode. But, the moment, the tissue
dies, that is when it loses its bioenergy or aura, its 3 dimensional
structure collapses. As a result, the microbes will invade,causing
putrefaction and the
the hydrochloric acid in the gastric juice will corrode,giving rise to
ulceration and ultimately perforation.

 Health is maintained by an optimum supply 

CSElectrode Tank Geometry

1999-10-24 Thread POTTED PLANT
Greetings and Salivations!  (Hey,I'm hungry)

Gotto know, has anyone experimented with changing the shape
of the electrodes and the tank?

I am curious if there is any advantage to using horizontal
electrodes rather than vertical.

It would be easy to find out. Bend the electrodes into an L
shape, connect to the foot of the L and submerse the long
part horizontally.

Might there be difference in sludge? Tree-ing? particle size?


Also, I am thinking that there may be some potential advantages
in having the silver-releasing electrode in the center of the
round production vessel and the other electrode as an inert
(stainless steel) tube surrounding the silver electrode.
This has the potential to cause the silver to be released more
evenly around the electrode. Which may also mean the production
time will be shorter because maximum electrical potential is
applied all around, rather than to just the part of the
electrodes that are facing each other. If nothing else, I
think the electrode wear would be more even.


Taking this on a tangent, what if the tube electrode was placed
on the outside of the production vessel and a diode was placed
in series with the center electrode?

As the voltage applied to the tube is raised,there would be 
more of an electrical imbalance and electricity would flow out
of the silver electrode to try and compensate.
When the voltage is stabilized at some given voltage, the
current stops. Raise the voltage a bit more, you get a bit more current
and a bit more CS.

So long as the voltage is on, we have CS. Turn the voltage off
and the silver particles will make a mad dash for the electrode
form where'st they came. That is why the diode is in series
with the electrode. It allows the current to go to the silver
electrode but does not allow it to come back. So, we can turn
off the generator and remove the lid to find a batch of CS
that is *REALLY* charged.

Actually, it may be overly charged. It may want to do it's
thing the first chance it gets.(Like a sailor on shore leave)

If it works, it will not be based on the electrical
conductivity of the water so much as the electrical field
between the electrodes. One point being that for a given set
of circumstances: electrode size,vessel size,etc., a given
voltage probably will produce a given amount of CS.
If we want higher PPM, we finish at a higher voltage. 
So maybe we will be able to say that X volts = x PPM.


AHH, don'tcha just love theory!


I definitely am going to play with this one.

That's it for now. 

Seize the Day!

David


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Re: CSRe: svortex question

1999-10-24 Thread POTTED PLANT
Katarina Wittich wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 thanks so much for the info.
 My big question is how do you know if it's working - or working right??? Is
 there any way to test?


Hello Katarina and fellow Listmates!

Katarina, do you have any more BIG questions?   Geesh.

So far as I have found, there are 4 things that change when
water is structured:
 
   Increased ultraviolet absorption
   Change in surface tension
   Change in dielectric constant
   Change in PH

There are things germinating behind these beady eyes.
(Grandma didn't like to waste anything and told me whenever I
found empty space that I should put in some potting soil and
plant something.)


UV Absorption:

I think it was Marshall Dudley who mentioned that he had
experienced different patterns in water(using a spectro-
photometer) that had been exposed to magnets, crystals,healing
hands, etc.

I am like everybody else, just when I need to analyze UV
absorption, my Bat Spectrophotometer is in my Bat Utility
Belt (BUB.) which is still at the cleaners.( Mom always said
that when it comes to BUBs., cleanliness is next to Godliness.)

There must be some way to correlate the UV absorption
patterns with something easier for the folks at home to use.
Sound absorption? Other ranges of electromagnetic energy
absorption? Better tales of woe absorption? (becomes a better
listener?)

Ok, so part of the potted plant is working on that approach.


Surface Tension:

I thought Gee, maybe it could be as simple as having a piece
of ceramic tile that could be acquired at almost any home 
improvement center (so it would be standardized)
I was thinking that a water proof grid of lines could be 
applied so that we could put a drop of before water on the
tile grid and see how many lines it spreads out after some 
standardized time. Then a drop of the after water to see
how many more lines or less lines it spreads out. The
difference could be an indication of degree of structure.

However, at one site I visited, the experimenter had a brief
blurb about putting cups of water on the magnets. He said
that he had heard somewhere that the surface tension changes
only about 2% and with one pole (I forget which) it goes up and
with the other, it goes down. If that is close to true, then
I suspect it is going to be difficult to see a 2% difference
in how much the water spreads out.


Dielectric Constant:

For a given size and shape of a substance, the electrical
capacity of that substance is apparently determined mostly by
the dielectric constant.

So,if we make a test cell (small plastic box, a vial, etc.) with flat
electrodes on the outside (perhaps foil on the flat
sides of the box) we have a capacitor. If we use that capacitor 
to to help tune an oscillator (555?), then as different liquids
are put into the cell, their differing dielectric constants
will be expressed as differing capacitances. That, in turn,
would change the oscillator frequency accordingly. 

Now, the bottom line is that the less the dielectric constant
changes,the more sensitive the apparatus has to be.

The potted plant is working on that too.


PH:

This could be the easiest and simplest method. It seems to me
that it depends on 2 things: How much the PH changes and where
do we have to go to get a PH kit that is sensitive enough (not
to mention how much?)
If Murphy isn't involved this time, the better PH kits used
for swimming pools or fish tanks might work.
At least that is easy to check out.

Alas, it will be two weeks before I have the funds to get rolling on
this stuff, but then, the ol' potted plant will have
grown two weeks wiser!

Sorry for the long post, but I thought it best to take it in 
one chunk.

Well, time to go water the plants. Tsk Tsk

Be in Wellness,

David

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Re: CSI found the spec sheet on the LM-317.

1999-10-24 Thread POTTED PLANT
Hi Kent and Listmates,

As I see it, the voltage regulator is still regulating the
voltage but instead of monitoring the final output voltage to
keep THAT constant, it is monitoring the voltage drop across
the series resistor to keep the voltage drop constant.
Current = voltage / resistance, so if the resistor doesn't and the
voltage drop doesn't change, the current doesn't change.
At least, if that is not how it works, it ought to work that
way.

David


clh...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I have never thought of a voltage controller as a current controller, I am 
 going to have to think about that, and sketch
it up.
 
 Kent
 

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CSSodium Bicarbonate, baking soda

1999-10-24 Thread Tai-Pan
Steve King wrote:

 --snip--
 
 I've got a question about digestion that I've
 always wondered about. What exactly does
 baking soda do as a remedy?  Baking soda is great
 for an upset stomach or the morning after a
 real bender. I know it's doing something
 with the digestive system's PH but I don't
 understand the process and I don't know
 whether its totally harmless.  Can you
 abuse baking soda? I once heard someone
 blew up their stomach taking too much.

  --snip--

 putting baking soda in CS solution
 either to adjust the PH for longer
 shelf life, or for improving initial
 conductivity.

  --snip--
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Steve King
  
  Hi Steve and listers,

 Sodium bicarbonate, amazing stuff. The bicarbonate part is what we
want.
 Its an anti-acid.
 Arm and Hammer (brand name) says; Add level 1/2 teaspoon to 1/2 glass
of water (4 fl oz) every two hours, up to max dosage.
  Max dosage is;  under 5yrs  none
   in 24 hrs  5 to 60 yrs, max of eight doses
  over 60 yrs, max of 4 doses

 The pH of ECF (extra cellular fluid) ranges between 7.35 and 7.45 in
the healthy body. Acute pH changes  due to acid or alkali loads or
deficits (over eating) are immediately dampened by interaction with
extracellular and intercellular buffer systems. Respiratory compensation
(CO2 changes) further diminish pH aberrations. Ultimately, the kidneys
maintain pH homeostasis by excretion or retention of hydrogen ions and
regeneration of lost buffers.
 The bicarbonate buffer system (HCO3-), one of several body buffers, is
of singular importance. The Henderson-Hasselbalch equation explains the
ratio of CO2 and HCO3-. At a pH of 7.4, the ratio is 20:1. Their ratio,
rather than their concentrations, determines blood pH. The physiologic
importance of this buffer system derives from the fact that two
mechanisms (renal and respiratory) exist for adjusting the ratio of this
major ECF buffer pair and thus the pH of the ECF. The CO2 is modified
rapidly by the lungs and the HCO3- is controlled by the kidneys.
 Renal regulation of the HCO3- concentration of ECF is accomplished in
several ways. Hydrogen (H) ion may be secreted into the renal tubular
lumen in exchange for Na; for each H ion secreted, an HCO3- ion is added
to the ECF. Thus net reabsorption of filtered HCO3- occurs. Since the pH
of the fluid leaving the proximal tubule is about 6.5, most filtered
HCO3- is reabsorbed in the proximal tubule. In the distal tubule, H ion
secretion, which is partially dependent upon aldosterone-mediated Na
reabsorption, can lower the pH to as low as 4.5 to 5. Throughout the
nephron, secreted H ion is buffered by urinary buffers such as PO4
(titratable acid) and ammonia. In this manner, filtered HCO3-
operationally is reabsorbed, and also new HCO3- can be generated to
replace that lost in body buffer reactions.

 As stated above we want the bicarbonate part since it yields the HCO3-
ion, which is amphiprotic in character. This is done by hydrolysis and
ionization. The hydrolysis tends to go on to a greater extent than the
ionization, so that aqueous solutions of the bicarbonates of the alkali
metals (sodium) are slightly alkaline. This fact accounts for the common
use of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to relieve stomach acidity. 

 Have never tried putting baking soda in the CS. Never had any reason to
do so. Would not put it in the water while making CS.

  Bless you  Bob Lee 
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