Re: CSCoffee Filters (was Pulsed DC method)
Would it make sense to pre-condition the coffee filter by running some plain distilled water through it, which you would discard, then filtering the CS? You'd at least get the worst of the solubles out of it before it contacts the product. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGraphs of Concentrations(resp)
I have tried twice to send this as a reply to an earlier post. Doesn't seem to get posted. My apologies if it is getting through. I am not seeing it at my end. If you're trying to send a graphics file as an attachment, be advised that there is a 40 kilobyte limit on the size of messages the list will re-transmit. Try a little smaller image size or a higher compressions ratio, if you have such options at yours disposal. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMeasuring ppm?
Sharon- The general consensus here on the list is that the TDS meter does not measure ppm. Do you feel differently about that? Yes I agree. I think its very difficult to correlate silver ions or very small particles with various charge levels to PPM. The whole discussion about TDS and PWT relates mainly to water purity before the process. The meters also work after the process and show change in conductivity but what the measurements mean I have no idea! BTW, for anyone looking for a great home distiller. I love my stainless steal Mini Classic from the Pure Water Co, of Lincoln , NE. It makes about a gallon in 3.5 hours and is very easy to use. Do you happen to have a street address or phone number or e-mail address for these people? Pure Water Inc. 375 Touzalin Ave Lincoln, NE 68501 402-467-9300 The Mini Classic that I have has a stainless steal boiling chamber. Actually, the whole thing is stainless steal - you could drop a bomb on it. Not cheap but built to last. Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMore than one way to distill water?
Marshall and Sharon- Just found this web address, after my note to Sharon with the phone number. .. http://www.purewaterinc.com/ another nice thing about the Mini Classic. . . the boiling chamber is removable so its easy to fill, rinse, clean, etc. but since I use commercial distilled water as input water in mine, cleaning isn't much of an issue. I just rinse and go. They make some large models as well. one of them, the Mega Classic is a floor unit monster with a 10 gallon storage tank and a 1gal / 2 hours duty rating. Steve King At 09:58 PM 11/1/99 -0500, you wrote: Steve King wrote: BTW, for anyone looking for a great home distiller. I love my stainless steal Mini Classic from the Pure Water Co, of Lincoln , NE. It makes about a gallon in 3.5 hours and is very easy to use. best, Steve King Do they have a web page. Didn't find them with a search engine. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSGraphs of Concentrations(resp)
I have tried twice to send this as a reply to an earlier post. Doesn't seem to get posted. My apologies if it is getting through. I am not seeing it at my end. BillH Ivan, Thanks for the graph, looking forward to the next one. I ran 2 more batches this week-end, one for 1hr and the 2nd for 2 hrs. With out compensating for the difference in wetted electrode length(yours 1 3/4, mine 2 1/2) the CS resistance results of the 2 hour run was 15.13Kohms. This falls in line with your graph for 18ppm. From now on I will vary the electrode length for better correlation when the final measurements are read. The batches were made with the electrode 3/4 inch apart. My 8oz glass is 3 1/4 inches at the top and narrows at the bottom. The electrode are vary close to the sides of the glass at 1 3/4 inch spacing. This is the only reason I am looking at different electrode spacing. I like to keep the electrodes spaced evenly from the sides and each other, 3/4 inch looks good for this. Below are this week-ends runs. Although CS conductivity and ppm do not have a linear relationship I did do some linear calculations(shown at end of e-mail) using past information. My 2 hr run ppm calculation was 18.66ppm, again very close to your graph. Electrode spacing results: 1hr 1/2.9...@12.1vdc 12.87K 3/4.81ma 14.94K 1 .71ma 17.04K 1 1/4 .65ma18.62K 1 1/2 .59ma20.51K 1 3/4 .54ma22.41K 2 hour run 1st hr. 1/2.7...@12.1vdc 16.13K 3/4.63ma 19.21K 1 .53ma 22.83K 1 1/4 .51ma23.73K 1 1/2 .47ma25.75K 1 3/4 .40ma30.25K 2nd hr. 1/21@12.1vdc 7.56K 3/41.31ma9.24K 1 1.15ma 10.52K 1 1/4 .98ma 12.35K 1 1/2 .87ma 13.91K 1 3/4 .80ma 15.13K Calculations: From Ivans Data base: 12 - 15ppm @ 1 3/4 electrode spacing 20Kohms/12ppm = 1.67Kohms/ppm 20Kohms/15ppm = 1.33Kohms/ppm From the above data calculate the ppm? 1hr run: 12ppm + (20K - 22.41K)/1.67K/ppm = CS sol's ppm 12ppm + (-2.41/1.67K/ppm)= 12ppm - 1.44ppm = 10.55 ppm 15ppm + (20K - 22.41K)/1.33K/ppm = CS sol's ppm 15ppm + (-2.41/1.33K/ppm) = 15ppm - 1.81ppm = 13.18ppm The ppm for this run is between 10.55 and 13.18ppm 2hr run: 12ppm + (20K -15.13K)/1.67K/ppm = 12ppm + 4.87K/1.67K/ppm = 12ppm + 2.92ppm = 14.92ppm 15ppm + (20K -15.13K)/1.33K/ppm = 15ppm + 4.87K/1.33K/ppm = 15ppm + 3.66ppm = 18.66ppm The ppm for this run is between 14.92 and 18.66ppm Thanks for the graph BillH -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSDumb question
Hi Marshall, Will you comment on any possible effect of carbon dioxide from the air having any effect on the chemistry you are describing? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 2:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSDumb question Bitter means that something is alkaline or basic. Sour is acid. Silver Oxide is a base, and silver hydroxide spontaneously changes to silver oxide upon standing. Since all you have to start with are silver, oxygen and hydrogen, the only likely canidate is silver oxide. I would say you let it go too long or at too high a current. Marshall teri...@aol.com wrote: dear marshall dudley... l have some cs that is 22ppm and it is tasting bitter now...and l noticed some settling on the bottom..it is in a clear bottle..l am wondering why it tastes so bitter...l dilute it with distilled water from walmart. do you have any idea why? thanks teri. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSAbnormal head size
It is deadly. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Kristie's PhotoLab [SMTP:photo...@powernet.net] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 5:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSAbnormal head size Kim: Just to be on the preventative end, make sure he is not getting any aspartame. It is known to cause abnormalities in the brain. A lot of candy manufacturers put aspartame into regular candy to make it sweeter. Also in some parts of the world they are putting it into sugar. Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSCoffee Filters (was Pulsed DC method)
Hi Mike, It is easy enough to find oxygen bleached filters. I suspect they are cleaner than unbleached. I have never filtered my sol, because Bruce Marx measured some before and after. There is a drop. If it is a charge effect, the fibers are probably getting the smaller particles by adhesion, and not by filtration. And some, believe smaller is better, at least in Ag sols... James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [SMTP:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 2:03 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSCoffee Filters (was Pulsed DC method) Would it make sense to pre-condition the coffee filter by running some plain distilled water through it, which you would discard, then filtering the CS? You'd at least get the worst of the solubles out of it before it contacts the product. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMore than one way to distill water?
Steve King wrote: Marshall and Sharon- Just found this web address, after my note to Sharon with the phone number. .. http://www.purewaterinc.com/ Thanks, I have been looking at their site. Oddly they are claiming their units are good for y2k and are low cost to operate, but every one of the units I could find on their site uses electricity for the fuel, making neither claim true. I hope they have a natural gas unit, that is what I really want for cost of operation, as well as for y2k. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSDumb question
The only way I can find for carbon to enter into a reaction with silver is in conjunction with nitrogen, which is also present dissolved in water exposed to air. In that case you have the elements necessary to make silver cyanide ( AgCN ) and with oxygen silver cyanate ( AgCNO ). Silver cyanide is virtually insoluable in water (0.23 ppm), so if any is made it would be in the gunk. I have no experimental data to determine if this reaction can even happen in a typical setup, this is data from the CRC handbook. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hi Marshall, Will you comment on any possible effect of carbon dioxide from the air having any effect on the chemistry you are describing? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 2:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSDumb question Bitter means that something is alkaline or basic. Sour is acid. Silver Oxide is a base, and silver hydroxide spontaneously changes to silver oxide upon standing. Since all you have to start with are silver, oxygen and hydrogen, the only likely canidate is silver oxide. I would say you let it go too long or at too high a current. Marshall teri...@aol.com wrote: dear marshall dudley... l have some cs that is 22ppm and it is tasting bitter now...and l noticed some settling on the bottom..it is in a clear bottle..l am wondering why it tastes so bitter...l dilute it with distilled water from walmart. do you have any idea why? thanks teri. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOT - Sick child h2o2
On Tuesday, November 02, 1999 4:30 PM, ing...@aol.com wrote:
Date: 2-Nov-1999 17:30:39 -0500
From: ing...@aol.com
To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
Subject: Re: CSOT - Sick child h2o2
hi..regarding your son..is h2o2 plain hydrogen peroxide? how much did you
give him each time...what size is he? if lt works that well..l want to know
all about it..thankyou. inga.
Yes, plain hydrogen peroxide, 3%, which I bought at the local pharmacy.
I gave him about one capful for both ears. I poured in enough to fill
the ear canal. My son is about 48 lbs. and about 46 inches tall. He
mentioned there was some pain with the first application, but none on the
third. I have also used this when I felt the first onset of a cold.
Mike M.
Reposted from previous email:
From another list, this suggestion:
From: molecularr...@webtv.net
To all of you that have an ear.
Sick to day, Well Tomorrow I promis you!!!
For the past 21 years now I, and others have been attacking the the
Common Cold Influenza(s) Virus where they begin their breeding
process. ( not where they have already spread to =
eye's-nose-throat-lungs)
We have found that the inner-ear (middle) harbors the only perfect
environment for these microscopic killers to begin their breeding.
Common Cold Cure:
We find that by administering a few drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide into
each infected ear for 10 minutes or longer until the bubbling stinging
subsides that the temperature starts dropping within just a few minutes
and that all of the effects / symptoms are completely gone within 12 to
14 hours. We have had 100% results with using this method.
Influenza(s) Virus Cure:
You'll need to repeat the same process two or more times at two hour
intervals until there is no more bubbling when you put drops in infected
ear(s) We also have had 100% results when using this method in curing
the flu. If you don't have an eye dropper, use the bottle cap to
administer the H202 and be very careful to not get any in the eyes.
(flush with water)
I have written to a multitude of people about this amazingly simple cure
including the FDA-NIH to AMA president Thomas R. Reardon MD. I don't
think that the AMA wants to inform the public about this because there's
no money in it for them in doing so!!! ( Narcissistic )
Please tell others about this.
Thanks
Larry the molecular man
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Re: CSround conductive pot idea
Hi All I have always used a stainless cathode nad a silver anode. The cathode has not got silver plated altough it does get black. When I started I was using silver for both and the cathode still got black. I noticed no difference in colour of the CS. James H-McMillan Ivan Anderson wrote: Sam, The silver ions are released from the positive electrode (anode) by reason of the potential difference applied (voltage) between the positive and negative (cathode) electrodes. It matters little what the metal the cathode is made of (there are effects that lie outside this discussion) as any silver ions that contact the cathode, be it silver or some other metal, are rendered to waste as far as colloidal silver is concerned. You are correct in the assumption that the cathode becomes plated with silver. The reason I use a silver cathode is that I can be sure that I cannot generate anything other than silver particles, even if the leads are reversed, and if the power fails whilst the electrodes are submerged there can be no dissolution of contaminating ions into the solution from the cathode. There may be other reasons to question the use of a conductive pot, to do with electrode polarisation etc. but it may turn out to be advantageous. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Sam Earle sear...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 29 October 1999 11:32 Subject: Re: CSround conductive pot idea Question for the chemists/engineers: If the negative pole is a dissimilar metal to the positive silver electrode, aren't we just going to be silver-plating the metal? I was under the impression that silver ions are freed into the water by virtue of the fact that the negative electrode (anode?) is not dissimiliar and thus does not bind with the positive silver ions as, say copper, would. Why wouldn't the iron and nickel in stainless steel do the same thing. Nickel, if I'm not mistaken, is often used as a base plating prior to applying silver or gold plate. Anyone? Sam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSround conductive pot idea
James H-McMillan wrote: Hi All I have always used a stainless cathode nad a silver anode. The cathode has not got silver plated altough it does get black. When I started I was using silver for both and the cathode still got black. I noticed no difference in colour of the CS. Actually the black is silver, which is plating out. The difference is that if it were a silver compound, then the atoms would attach to the metal one by one, giving a smooth shiny finish. But since CS is made up of clumps of 100 to 5,000 atoms of silver, when they plate out, they end up as a very fine power on the surface, which is black. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOT - Sick child h2o2
hi..regarding your son..is h2o2 plain hydrogen peroxide? how much did you give him each time...what size is he? if lt works that well..l want to know all about it..thankyou. inga. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSdigestive enzymes
Recently there have been some posts about digestive enzymes and the fact that a lot of peoples problems stem from too LITTLE acid and not too much. I didn't catch what was recommended to help this problem. I have had digestive upset for years and finally found out that an anti-depressant worked (suppossedly stress-induced stomach problems) I would like to know what the digestive enzyme was that was recommended and where to get it. Also, someone (not on this list) recommended Papain to help this problem. Any suggestions anyone? Thanks. Janine garyjan...@msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
