RE: CSMore on CS testing at BYU
Hi Marshall and everyone, From reports I got about a year ago, they are using CS. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 8:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSMore on CS testing at BYU File: ATT0.html Very interesting. But I could not determine just what the silver solution is? If it is a true solution, then it is not a colloid, but on the other hand solution may mean answer. Does anyone know if this is truely a colloidal silver, a silver salt or what? Marshall Steve Young wrote: Hi list, For some interesting reading, aim your browser at http://www.allianceteam.com/radio/silver.html. Yes, it is an advertisement, but it provides results of several Brigham Young University microbiology department conducted tests of CS in destroying a variety of bacteria. Nice to see some science instead of the usual unsubstantiated hype.--Steve Young -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:MSM again
Thanks mama, Jeannine, Huge, Marshall and James. Mama, I will look for the brand named NOW...but first I will take James up on his offer of a free sample. Thanks so much. And Huge, whichever brand I decide to take I will not take it in the evening. It does not recommend being taken early, but I will heed your advice. And Marshall...your wife gets the same reaction on the same brand? TriMedica? Interesting! I wonder how many others? The company seemed as reputable as any other. What brand does she now use? And thanks for the information that the sulfur drug and the sulfur supplement are different entities. I thought so, but seeing each gave a reaction...I thought the relationship was an improtant one. No? Love, Kathy In a message dated 5*25*00 6:02:38 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: I use NOW brand MSM, a biologically active form of organic sufur found in all living organisms. Also contains magnesium stearate and stearic acid. Safe, nontoxic and 99.7% pure. Contains no wheat, yeast, corn, soy, milk, sugar, salt, colors or preservatives. mama ** yes although rare - you may have an allergy to it - for now - it is a sign of a neuro problem though . . . look up Earl Mindells' book by Keat Publishing on MSM - your local health store should be able to order it or have it ** Kathy, In my personal experience of using MSM @ 8-16 grams per day, it is best not to take at or near bedtime because it is stimulating. The time or two that I got sick from taking it , was when I took it on an empty or almost empty stomach. Eat a meal first. Hugh ** Those are exactly the same symptoms my wife gets on that particular brand. Many years ago, enough so that I had totally forgotten (until last night) I had some sulfur prescribed for something or other. I had a reaction to it then too...feverish flu like symtoms. You are likely referring to a sulfa drug. Entirely different animal. Marshall ** Some of the MSM out there may have sulfas, sulfites and or sulfates. = You must be very careful with the quality or you start running into = problems (IMHO). What ever brand you look at, be sure that they are = 100% pure MSM and use no fillers, binders or additives. If you desire, = I would be more than happy to send you a small sample of 100% pure MSM = to test for a reaction. Just private email me at apothec...@home.com = with your address and I'll get some out to you later today. Yours in health, James Allison ** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
List: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) so I started taking a low dc voltage, limiting current (ma =1.43, and a bubbler was used during production) CS (*concentration unknown, but it had a significant Tyndall). However, my condition steadily worsened. By Thursday afternoon had consumed more than 10 oz. of this CS as the infection spread to my lungs and ears. However, I did notice some temporary relief (for a few minutes) if I let a mouthful of the CS trickle down into my throat from a prone position, but that's very difficult to do for more than a few seconds without swallowing. Enter the much maligned HVAC CS. At about 6 pm Thursday evening, I decided to spray ~1 ppm HVAC CS (pH = 4.5, no Tyndall -- tastes like water despite the low pH) directly into my throat while breathing deeply through my mouth and trying not to swallow. Using a spray bottle, (as opposed to the method described above) made it much easier to refrain from swallowing, thus allowing the heavier atomized water particles to coat the surface of my sore throat. In addition, the smallest of the water droplets had a reasonable chance of reaching my lungs (breathing deeply helps too) where the infection was much more severe. Within minutes I felt better. I continued to follow this procedure later that evening (feeling better and worse during the evening), and during the night as well (whenever I got up, I added a few drops of the HVAC CS to each ear as well). By 6 am I was 90% better, and now as I write this email (7:30 am. I also took another shot of my HVAC CS about an hour ago for good measure), I feel I'm completely normal -- quite dramatic when you consider that I was practically climbing the walls for much of yesterday. Admittedly, this result is a singIe observation, and may not mean that much by itself. However, I recall that the recent BYU Silver Solution work showed generally that 5 ppm of this (presumably CS) prep was needed to kill the various types of bacteria, and 2.5 ppm only inhibited further growth. So it is quite surprising that the ~1 ppm HVAC CS did so well in vivo while the former result was based on in vitro measurments. If anyone is interested in following up on my recent findings please let me know and I'll send you a one ounce sample of the same 1 ppm HVAC CS brew that I used. BTW, 1 ounce is more than sufficient if it is administered from a spray bottle which I HIGHLY recommend based on the almost miraculous results I observed. Please send my $3 to cover shipping it to you, and most importantly, please report your observations to list subscribers. Dr. Roger Altman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:MSM again ...chuck and nina...
In a message dated 5*26*00 1:13:30 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Boy, That sounds like a reaction to a relatively high dosage of niacin (viamin B3). This is usually considered harmless, but can make you think you're gonna die. Your body acclimates to the dosage over repeated dosages over time. Chuck Chuck... B3? Is niacin in the MSM capsule? Excuse my ignorance. Darn...If only I could find the little booklet that came with it, so I could check that out...for yes...I think I read it had niacin in it (although it does not say so on the bottle) and that appealed to me for having read that the B's help tinnitus (which I have). And Nina wrote: If I were you, I'd write the company and tell them my reaction and demand to get my money back. Good luck with the next brand. Nina Hi nina, Thanks. I was considering doing just that, and that was part of the reason I wrote here for feedback. It came as a package deal with shampoo and powder too. $36.00. I wonder if the powder (which may not have the fillers) would give me the same reaction? I'm afraid to try. I'm sending it all back. Love, Kathy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
Happy that you have made a good recovery, Roger! From a purely cold and clinical point of view, it is a pity that you didn't use a LVDC colloid with little or no Tyndall effect, and used both in the same manner of administration. The method you describe in taking the HVAC colloid (I have never said that HVAC CS is not effective) is similar to the method I use to treat such infections with LVDC colloid. Breathing and sniffing the spray, and spraying the eyes with a simple plastic spray bottle, as well as gargling, has brought immediate relief. You will find posts in the archive from Brooks Bradley (reposted by myself) describing the procurement and use of a very cheap airbrush as a highly efficient nebuliser. Application of CS in this manner has been reported to cause the 'spontaneous remission' of serious bronchial infection. Good health, Ivan. - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 27 May 2000 00:12 Subject: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened. List: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) so I started taking a low dc voltage, limiting current (ma =1.43, and a bubbler was used during production) CS (*concentration unknown, but it had a significant Tyndall). However, my condition steadily worsened. By Thursday afternoon had consumed more than 10 oz. of this CS as the infection spread to my lungs and ears. However, I did notice some temporary relief (for a few minutes) if I let a mouthful of the CS trickle down into my throat from a prone position, but that's very difficult to do for more than a few seconds without swallowing. Enter the much maligned HVAC CS. At about 6 pm Thursday evening, I decided to spray ~1 ppm HVAC CS (pH = 4.5, no Tyndall -- tastes like water despite the low pH) directly into my throat while breathing deeply through my mouth and trying not to swallow. Using a spray bottle, (as opposed to the method described above) made it much easier to refrain from swallowing, thus allowing the heavier atomized water particles to coat the surface of my sore throat. In addition, the smallest of the water droplets had a reasonable chance of reaching my lungs (breathing deeply helps too) where the infection was much more severe. Within minutes I felt better. I continued to follow this procedure later that evening (feeling better and worse during the evening), and during the night as well (whenever I got up, I added a few drops of the HVAC CS to each ear as well). By 6 am I was 90% better, and now as I write this email (7:30 am. I also took another shot of my HVAC CS about an hour ago for good measure), I feel I'm completely normal -- quite dramatic when you consider that I was practically climbing the walls for much of yesterday. Admittedly, this result is a singIe observation, and may not mean that much by itself. However, I recall that the recent BYU Silver Solution work showed generally that 5 ppm of this (presumably CS) prep was needed to kill the various types of bacteria, and 2.5 ppm only inhibited further growth. So it is quite surprising that the ~1 ppm HVAC CS did so well in vivo while the former result was based on in vitro measurments. If anyone is interested in following up on my recent findings please let me know and I'll send you a one ounce sample of the same 1 ppm HVAC CS brew that I used. BTW, 1 ounce is more than sufficient if it is administered from a spray bottle which I HIGHLY recommend based on the almost miraculous results I observed. Please send my $3 to cover shipping it to you, and most importantly, please report your observations to list subscribers. Dr. Roger Altman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
You mentioned that CS has poor systemic protection: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) I am rather new to this list, but am curious what this means. Does this mean CS is not distributed well throughout the body? thanks, rob in memphis From: rogalt...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened. Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:12:27 EDT List: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) so I started taking a low dc voltage, limiting current (ma =1.43, and a bubbler was used during production) CS (*concentration unknown, but it had a significant Tyndall). However, my condition steadily worsened. By Thursday afternoon had consumed more than 10 oz. of this CS as the infection spread to my lungs and ears. However, I did notice some temporary relief (for a few minutes) if I let a mouthful of the CS trickle down into my throat from a prone position, but that's very difficult to do for more than a few seconds without swallowing. Enter the much maligned HVAC CS. At about 6 pm Thursday evening, I decided to spray ~1 ppm HVAC CS (pH = 4.5, no Tyndall -- tastes like water despite the low pH) directly into my throat while breathing deeply through my mouth and trying not to swallow. Using a spray bottle, (as opposed to the method described above) made it much easier to refrain from swallowing, thus allowing the heavier atomized water particles to coat the surface of my sore throat. In addition, the smallest of the water droplets had a reasonable chance of reaching my lungs (breathing deeply helps too) where the infection was much more severe. Within minutes I felt better. I continued to follow this procedure later that evening (feeling better and worse during the evening), and during the night as well (whenever I got up, I added a few drops of the HVAC CS to each ear as well). By 6 am I was 90% better, and now as I write this email (7:30 am. I also took another shot of my HVAC CS about an hour ago for good measure), I feel I'm completely normal -- quite dramatic when you consider that I was practically climbing the walls for much of yesterday. Admittedly, this result is a singIe observation, and may not mean that much by itself. However, I recall that the recent BYU Silver Solution work showed generally that 5 ppm of this (presumably CS) prep was needed to kill the various types of bacteria, and 2.5 ppm only inhibited further growth. So it is quite surprising that the ~1 ppm HVAC CS did so well in vivo while the former result was based on in vitro measurments. If anyone is interested in following up on my recent findings please let me know and I'll send you a one ounce sample of the same 1 ppm HVAC CS brew that I used. BTW, 1 ounce is more than sufficient if it is administered from a spray bottle which I HIGHLY recommend based on the almost miraculous results I observed. Please send my $3 to cover shipping it to you, and most importantly, please report your observations to list subscribers. Dr. Roger Altman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
In a message dated 00-05-26 09:27:16 EDT, you write: You mentioned that CS has poor systemic protection: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) I am rather new to this list, but am curious what this means. Does this mean CS is not distributed well throughout the body? thanks, rob in memphis Rob: I think the jury in out with regard to CS providing systemic protection. My suspicion is that CS DOES provide significant systemic protection, but without some sort of statistical study, there is no proof yet. However, my point was that since I can treat most illnesses effectively once I catch the bug, why bother taking CS daily since long term (10-20 years) ingestion risks are still largely unknown. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMore on CS testing at BYU
It is quite possible that it is the same product, just privately labeled. We do the same thing with Silver Lightning, we bottle for other companies under their label. The bottle looks identical, so I suspect that this is the case. Marshall Michael Mahoney wrote: For those interested in the BYU research data: I have found two on-line sources of this data. http://www.allianceteam.com/radio/silver.html http://www.amsilver.com/ Interestingly, every place a product is mentioned it is identified as ASAP Solution on one site and Silver Solution on the other site. Someone has done a little editing of those reports? If anyone can come up with a reference to the ORIGINAL reports, please post the URL for the rest of us. Michael -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBob Beck's super tools
Alvin Rose wrote: I notice a number of people on the Silver List have contacted lyme disease..I am curious as to if anyone has tried the Beck devices to cure this Problem..I use them often and have had great success with them Both the blood electrifier and magnetic pulser combined with Colloidal Silver should cure most problems..I don't have lyme disease but I feel that these devices should do the job if the 4 step protocol is used as required. A.Rose Yes. As I have reported to this list several times, my sister was able to improve tremendously on CS, but could not complete get rid of it. She was unable to get it out of her joints and lymph system. The use of all 4 of the Beck protocols and she was free of all symptoms in a month and her lymph nodes went down for the first time in years. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
I take a shotglassfull daily. Been a couple of years without infection of any kind. Works for me! Chuck It is impossible to solve a problem with the consciousness that created it! On Fri, 26 May 2000 13:26:01 GMT, rob gr brownin...@hotmail.com wrote: You mentioned that CS has poor systemic protection: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) I am rather new to this list, but am curious what this means. Does this mean CS is not distributed well throughout the body? thanks, rob in memphis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
In a message dated 5/26/00 12:15:09 PM Central Daylight Time, cking...@nycap.rr.com writes: I take a shotglassfull daily. Been a couple of years without infection of any kind. Works for me! Chuck It is impossible to solve a problem with the consciousness that created it! You should give Einstein credit for that, Chuck: Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them. Samantha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(no subject)
- Original Message - From: Alvin Rose ar...@nf.sympatico.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:39 PM Subject: CS(no subject) I have some friends who started taking Colloidal Silver but they get a headache and feel tired..Is this normal? It doesn't bother me at all..but I think it may have at first. A.Rose Yes it's normal -- typical die-off reaction. Tell them to drink water and do a detox. Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(no subject)
That is a typical reaction if a person has any type of systematic infection, whether it be aids, lyme, yeast, cancer or any of a broad range of other diseases. It is called a herx reaction or healing crisis. I kept trying to get my mother to take CS, but she said that it did nothing. Then one time she got sick when she took it and I tried to convince her that she has a serious problem, and she needed to continue taking it to get rid of whatever it was. She instead chose to go to the doctor who told her that she was fine and had no problems, so she would not take CS any more, and in 6 months she was dead from cancer. Marshall Alvin Rose wrote: I have some friends who started taking Colloidal Silver but they get a headache and feel tired..Is this normal? It doesn't bother me at all..but I think it may have at first. A.Rose -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
I take no credit for my tag lines. In fact people send them to me. It's only a hobby Chuck It is most distressing to us to be the agents whereby our erring fellow creatures are deprived of that liberty which is so dear to us all --but we should have thought of that before we joined the force On Fri, 26 May 2000 14:11:22 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: It is impossible to solve a problem with the consciousness that created it! You should give Einstein credit for that, Chuck: Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them. Samantha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
Hi Roger, et al, Re: HVAC v LVDC: Spoken with singsong cadence, Nah-nah-na-nah-na. Repeat until the listener is sufficiently annoyed But seriously folks, good results have been seen with both, depending upon the specific either/both. The scuttlebutt I received about a year ago on the study at BYU was that they had started with LVDC and were not impressed. PLEASE NOTE: that means nothing generally about LVDC because the method used to make the sol and its source were and are still unknown to me. Lots of people report excellent results with LVDC. Their heads spun when they started using HVAC from a source which I choose not to disclose. It seems to me that the problem is not distribution of the sol in the bod, but it's complexing with stuff other than the pathogens and blowing its charge. Dr. Bart A. Flick, MD, Orthopedic Surgeon who has been working with silver generally for about 14 years says CS kills every known bacterium, if they get into contact. Remember, during its previous period of popularity in the 20s-30s, the primary route of administration was IV, resulting in much higher blood levels. B.B.'s group found that adding 1 oz (US fluid) 10 PPM CS with 3 oz. Lactated Ringers solution and adding 1/4 teaspoon of known high-purity methylsulfonylmethane results in a Four X blood level of CS compared with the same CS dose w/o the above named transport enhancers. Re: Brooks' el-cheapo airbrush. My most recent observation of its effects using 10 mg/L Ag sol saturated with MSM: Lady---40's---two weeks of 'walking pneumonia'. Not terrible, she kept working; but persistent. One afternoon and evening of sucking that mix driven with O2. Next day, stethascopic (sp?) examination revealed clear lungs. I don't know the long range effects of CS either. But since Rogers work demonstrates that it does not build up, and I do know the long range effects of all the things I used to suffer, I sporadically swig it all the time. 1 Flu, 2 minor colds, 4 years. No more tinea pedis. No more aching post-hepatitis liver. Greatly improved gum health. Less plaque Tere is more too, but I can't remember. Maybe that's what is bad effect is? One CS worker has been taking 9 oz of 10 PPM (mg/L) for about 9 years. I'll take my chances. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [SMTP:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened. In a message dated 00-05-26 09:27:16 EDT, you write: You mentioned that CS has poor systemic protection: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) I am rather new to this list, but am curious what this means. Does this mean CS is not distributed well throughout the body? thanks, rob in memphis Rob: I think the jury in out with regard to CS providing systemic protection. My suspicion is that CS DOES provide significant systemic protection, but without some sort of statistical study, there is no proof yet. However, my point was that since I can treat most illnesses effectively once I catch the bug, why bother taking CS daily since long term (10-20 years) ingestion risks are still largely unknown. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
No, peventativally if there is such a word. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Alvin Rose [SMTP:ar...@nf.sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 4:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened. I was wondering how you take colloidal Silver prophylactically..is that by injection? cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I take a shotglassfull daily. Been a couple of years without infection of any kind. Works for me! Chuck It is impossible to solve a problem with the consciousness that created it! On Fri, 26 May 2000 13:26:01 GMT, rob gr brownin...@hotmail.com wrote: You mentioned that CS has poor systemic protection: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) I am rather new to this list, but am curious what this means. Does this mean CS is not distributed well throughout the body? thanks, rob in memphis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSmarsha with earproblem...
hi marsha..have you tried ear candling? l have an earache now too..and l am getting that one ear candled tomorrow...it is an easy procedure..and it clears your ear. just a thought.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmarsha with earproblem...
Wheee! new thread.. I thought the candles for the ears were exposed as a hoax or was that just the medical opinion? Give me some feed back on this as I have vertigo that is probably due to calcium deposits in inner ear. Nothing else medically shows up or clears it up and it's stopping me from dancing. That's big time problem for me. Thanks. Betty FT. Lauderdale -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
I was wondering how you take colloidal Silver prophylactically..is that by injection? cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I take a shotglassfull daily. Been a couple of years without infection of any kind. Works for me! Chuck It is impossible to solve a problem with the consciousness that created it! On Fri, 26 May 2000 13:26:01 GMT, rob gr brownin...@hotmail.com wrote: You mentioned that CS has poor systemic protection: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) I am rather new to this list, but am curious what this means. Does this mean CS is not distributed well throughout the body? thanks, rob in memphis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS(no subject)
I have some friends who started taking Colloidal Silver but they get a headache and feel tired..Is this normal? It doesn't bother me at all..but I think it may have at first. A.Rose -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
Hi Roger, In some Ag processes, the pH is the same in the finished sol as it was in the start water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [SMTP:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened. List: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) so I started taking a low dc voltage, limiting current (ma =1.43, and a bubbler was used during production) CS (*concentration unknown, but it had a significant Tyndall). However, my condition steadily worsened. By Thursday afternoon had consumed more than 10 oz. of this CS as the infection spread to my lungs and ears. However, I did notice some temporary relief (for a few minutes) if I let a mouthful of the CS trickle down into my throat from a prone position, but that's very difficult to do for more than a few seconds without swallowing. Enter the much maligned HVAC CS. At about 6 pm Thursday evening, I decided to spray ~1 ppm HVAC CS (pH = 4.5, no Tyndall -- tastes like water despite the low pH) directly into my throat while breathing deeply through my mouth and trying not to swallow. Using a spray bottle, (as opposed to the method described above) made it much easier to refrain from swallowing, thus allowing the heavier atomized water particles to coat the surface of my sore throat. In addition, the smallest of the water droplets had a reasonable chance of reaching my lungs (breathing deeply helps too) where the infection was much more severe. Within minutes I felt better. I continued to follow this procedure later that evening (feeling better and worse during the evening), and during the night as well (whenever I got up, I added a few drops of the HVAC CS to each ear as well). By 6 am I was 90% better, and now as I write this email (7:30 am. I also took another shot of my HVAC CS about an hour ago for good measure), I feel I'm completely normal -- quite dramatic when you consider that I was practically climbing the walls for much of yesterday. Admittedly, this result is a singIe observation, and may not mean that much by itself. However, I recall that the recent BYU Silver Solution work showed generally that 5 ppm of this (presumably CS) prep was needed to kill the various types of bacteria, and 2.5 ppm only inhibited further growth. So it is quite surprising that the ~1 ppm HVAC CS did so well in vivo while the former result was based on in vitro measurments. If anyone is interested in following up on my recent findings please let me know and I'll send you a one ounce sample of the same 1 ppm HVAC CS brew that I used. BTW, 1 ounce is more than sufficient if it is administered from a spray bottle which I HIGHLY recommend based on the almost miraculous results I observed. Please send my $3 to cover shipping it to you, and most importantly, please report your observations to list subscribers. Dr. Roger Altman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe:MSM again ...chuck and nina...
MSM is 99.x % MSM. The rest is water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: mzo...@aol.com [SMTP:mzo...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSRe:MSM again ...chuck and nina... In a message dated 5*26*00 1:13:30 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Boy, That sounds like a reaction to a relatively high dosage of niacin (viamin B3). This is usually considered harmless, but can make you think you're gonna die. Your body acclimates to the dosage over repeated dosages over time. Chuck Chuck... B3? Is niacin in the MSM capsule? Excuse my ignorance. Darn...If only I could find the little booklet that came with it, so I could check that out...for yes...I think I read it had niacin in it (although it does not say so on the bottle) and that appealed to me for having read that the B's help tinnitus (which I have). And Nina wrote: If I were you, I'd write the company and tell them my reaction and demand to get my money back. Good luck with the next brand. Nina Hi nina, Thanks. I was considering doing just that, and that was part of the reason I wrote here for feedback. It came as a package deal with shampoo and powder too. $36.00. I wonder if the powder (which may not have the fillers) would give me the same reaction? I'm afraid to try. I'm sending it all back. Love, Kathy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
From Circa 80's Dead..too much is just enough. Finances notwithstanding, you can take as much as does not give you diarrhea. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: rob gr [SMTP:brownin...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too. If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage concentration seems to have some correlation. Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and dosage that should be taken? rob in memphis From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com Reply-To: a...@trail.com a...@trail.com To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:56:08 -0600 What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day? See also the Clark and Beck stuff. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: CSRe:MSM again ...chuck and nina...
MSM is 99.x % MSM. The rest is water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: mzo...@aol.com [SMTP:mzo...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSRe:MSM again ...chuck and nina... In a message dated 5*26*00 1:13:30 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Boy, That sounds like a reaction to a relatively high dosage of niacin (viamin B3). This is usually considered harmless, but can make you think you're gonna die. Your body acclimates to the dosage over repeated dosages over time. Chuck Chuck... B3? Is niacin in the MSM capsule? Excuse my ignorance. Darn...If only I could find the little booklet that came with it, so I could check that out...for yes...I think I read it had niacin in it (although it does not say so on the bottle) and that appealed to me for having read that the B's help tinnitus (which I have). And Nina wrote: If I were you, I'd write the company and tell them my reaction and demand to get my money back. Good luck with the next brand. Nina Hi nina, Thanks. I was considering doing just that, and that was part of the reason I wrote here for feedback. It came as a package deal with shampoo and powder too. $36.00. I wonder if the powder (which may not have the fillers) would give me the same reaction? I'm afraid to try. I'm sending it all back. Love, Kathy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe:MSM again ...chuck and nina...
MSM is 99.x % MSM. The rest is water. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: mzo...@aol.com [SMTP:mzo...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSRe:MSM again ...chuck and nina... In a message dated 5*26*00 1:13:30 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Boy, That sounds like a reaction to a relatively high dosage of niacin (viamin B3). This is usually considered harmless, but can make you think you're gonna die. Your body acclimates to the dosage over repeated dosages over time. Chuck Chuck... B3? Is niacin in the MSM capsule? Excuse my ignorance. Darn...If only I could find the little booklet that came with it, so I could check that out...for yes...I think I read it had niacin in it (although it does not say so on the bottle) and that appealed to me for having read that the B's help tinnitus (which I have). And Nina wrote: If I were you, I'd write the company and tell them my reaction and demand to get my money back. Good luck with the next brand. Nina Hi nina, Thanks. I was considering doing just that, and that was part of the reason I wrote here for feedback. It came as a package deal with shampoo and powder too. $36.00. I wonder if the powder (which may not have the fillers) would give me the same reaction? I'm afraid to try. I'm sending it all back. Love, Kathy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSpray pumps?
Hi I have been using a spray/mister pump in my colloidal silver , but have just noticed it has a small metal spring in its mechanism, which the CS will come into contact with. Will this effect the C/S? I'm very new to C/S, so hope you can help out. Thanks Michelle -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBeck's tools/cs dosing times per day.away from food??etc.
Hi Marshal, How long was your sister sick before she started the cs and then the 4 part protocol? Was she using the Sota device to make the CS. Do you know what ppm she was using and waht dose of CS? Also, is it best to take CS twice a dfay or once or even 3 times? Should it be taken on an empty stomach or a full one or does it matter? Also, will supplements or herbs interfer with it..should thety be spaced apart? Thanks, Christy n a message dated 5/26/00 8:09:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSBob Beck's super tools Date: 5/26/00 8:09:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Alvin Rose wrote: I notice a number of people on the Silver List have contacted lyme disease..I am curious as to if anyone has tried the Beck devices to cure this Problem..I use them often and have had great success with them Both the blood electrifier and magnetic pulser combined with Colloidal Silver should cure most problems..I don't have lyme disease but I feel that these devices should do the job if the 4 step protocol is used as required. A.Rose Yes. As I have reported to this list several times, my sister was able to improve tremendously on CS, but could not complete get rid of it. She was unable to get it out of her joints and lymph system. The use of all 4 of the Beck protocols and she was free of all symptoms in a month and her lymph nodes went down for the first time in years. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: have you heard ear candling is a hoax?
l have never heard that ear candling is a hoax. Has anyone else? but l wouldnt be surprised if the medical community believes that...they dont research anything alternative usually..and believe only drugs and invasive treatments are the answer...IMHO. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Hi, I have a CS Generator and have just made a new batch of CS. There was a tiny amount of sediment of a few dark grains in the bottom of the jar. Set the jar on a shelf in a closet and didn't strain it right away. Was making strong CS and was planning on watering it down with more distilled water so I wouldn't have to make it so often. Two days later I decided to strain it and the granules weren't there anymore and the CS had turned more golden (it was a very pale amber before) but still very clear. I did strain it though. What do you think, is this safe CS? Thanks, Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: have you heard ear candling is a hoax?
I know a nurse who does ear candling. She's on AOL. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: have you heard ear candling is a hoax?
mama2b...@aol.com wrote: I know a nurse who does ear candling. She's on AOL. I know of several people who use candling and recommend it. I've never tried it. I think that lots of people disregard something that is different than the usual medical practices. It's sort of like some/many people don't believe something unless it appears on the evening news or the newspaper. :::SIGH::: Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
