Re: CS machines
> Pamela Grant wrote: > > > I noticed that the directions for the use of saline was not part of > > your directions. Is that a thing of the past, no longer recommended > > and if so, why? Marshall replied: > Addition of salt can make silver chloride, a toxic compound that can > photoexpose in your skin and turn you blue permanently. Always use > pure distilled water. If you need a quicker start then warm it up, > or add a little CS from the previous batch. I'd like to rein in Marshall's enthusiasm just a *tiny* bit... Yes, silver chloride is toxic and can precipitate in the skin to cause argyria. However, the very small quantities created and consumed by those using salt as an accelerant for making CS have *not* caused any cases of argyria and are unlikely to be able to. Just do the figures... a few ppm of AgCl ... how many gallons of the product would you have to drink to amount to the several hundreds of milligrams of silver known to be required to cause a problem? And *that* assumes all the AgCl precipitates in the skin, when in fact it is eliminated at a modest rate by the body, and only when that mechanism is overwhelmed does precipitation occur. The best reason for not using salt in making CS is that the particles produced that way are known to be smaller and are presumed to be safer and more bioavailable. Note that I fully *agree* that it's best to use distilled water. I just don't want to overstate the argyria issue. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>First Day uS Drop
Hi list, I have noticed when I make CS (LVDC method, pure DW, no additives), the conductivity of the end product drops during the first day. I measure the conductivity with the Hanna PWT immediately after completing and stirring a batch, then the next day. Here are some readings to illustrate this. They are after - next day, in microSeimens: 23.8 - 16.0, 19.2 - 10.5, 22.6 - 16.2, 10.0 - 7.8. What is going on during the first day to cause the drop in measured "strength"? --Steve
RE: CS>First Day uS Drop
Pure speculation. 1. Loss of charge, resulting in a lower reading. 2. Flocculation into larger particles with the same charge. 3. Precipitation, only if there is grey dust at the bottom. 4. Something else. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Steve Young [SMTP:you...@konnections.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:25 AM To: Silver List Subject:CS>First Day uS Drop << File: ATT0.html >> Hi list, I have noticed when I make CS (LVDC method, pure DW, no additives), the conductivity of the end product drops during the first day. I measure the conductivity with the Hanna PWT immediately after completing and stirring a batch, then the next day. Here are some readings to illustrate this. They are after - next day, in microSeimens: 23.8 - 16.0, 19.2 - 10.5, 22.6 - 16.2, 10.0 - 7.8. What is going on during the first day to cause the drop in measured "strength"? --Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Polarity Switching & Stirring
Hi list, I did some experiments with DC polarity switching which are interesting. I use a constant current supply of 1.67 ma into #12 silver electrodes 3.9" of weatted length spaced 1.25 inches apart. "Brewing" time is two hours starting with 1.6 uS DW, no additives. I can start drawing 1.67 ma immediately as the generator can keep a constant current up to several hundred volts. Typical starting voltage is about 140, which drops over the two hours to around 12 volts or so as the conductivity increases. The control batch (no polarity switching) ended up measuring 16.2 uS. Switching polarity every 17 seconds produced 7.8 uS. Likewise, switching polarity every minute produced 7.8 uS. The polarity switching does indeed keep electrode sludge buildup low, but at a cost of reducing the strength by about 48% for a given run time. Question - why the dramatic reduction in strength from polarity switching, when all other conditions are the same? It is interesting to monitor the voltage drop across the electrodes during polarity switching. At the moment of switching, the voltage drops for a second, then rises above the nominal state value for 8 - 10 seconds, then returns to nominal. Must be some interesting dynamic electrochemical "readjusting" going on when the polarity shifts. I did another batch with no polarity switching, but constant gentle stirring. It produced a 18.5 uS product (slightly "stronger"), but still had a bunch of sludge buildup. But I have to agree with Trem, I think stirring has some benefits, but they are not very overwhelming. I will see how the long term stability compares with the control batch. --Steve
Re: CS>IS SLUDGE BAD?
SO IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH SLUDGE? WILL A LITTLE BIT OF SLUDGE KILL YA? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Chemtrail update
Remember, CS should be effective against fungus! Rense.com Special To Rense.com Some Comments & Conclusions On Cassani & Chemtrails By William Thomas 6-23-00 Erminia Cassani deserves thanks and congratulations for her long and sometimes personally perilous investigations into low-level air drops of pathogen-bearing gel and red powder over suburban neighborhoods in Ontario, and across the USA. Throughout her research I have kept our confidentiality agreement on certain aspects of her work until she was ready to publish her preliminary findings. It is time that we heard from this key researcher, and I am glad she has come forward now. After 19 months' investigation, I believe that the higher-level 'chemtrail' operation involving 700 US Air Force tanker planes and some civilian airliners is separate, though possibly related to, the splattering of lab-tested bacteria, molds and fungi over homes from aircraft flying at tree-top level. Even more disturbing are recently witnessed deliberate spray attacks on some vocal aerial observers' headquarters and homes. Seen in the context of earlier low-level attacks against William Wallace and his wife Anne in the remote mountains of Washington state (after Wallace went to the media insisting they cover chemtrails) - these attempts at intimidation are serious acts of military aggression that prove that something sensitive is indeed going on. But what? I concur with Cassani's conclusions that it makes zero sense for a government torandomly sicken its entire citizenry with air-delivered organisms. Nor are repeated attacks of self-replicating bio-agents necessary. If continued, such overt bio-attacks could destroy the US economy, while risking rebellion from an armed and angry populace. More to the point: no disease-causing organisms have ever been found in chemtrails. While lab techs were startled and concerned by the biological organisms and markers turning up in samples from low-level drops that left at least one homeowner stricken with a heart attack, the molds and fungi that turned up in the only tested sample of rainwater taken immediately after heavy high-level chemtrail spraying were deemed by an independent Ontario lab as entirely normal - 'with no one species predominating.' CONTEMPLATING A CULL What about an airborne 'cull' of the elderly and similar 'useless eaters' burdening cash-strapped governments with their burgeoning needs for subsistence and medical assistance? A little-publicized high-level summit last January saw president Clinton (invited) and former heads and top officials from Japan, Germany, the World Bank, security agencies and major financial firms discussing the 'Impacts of Aging on Business'. Corporate-controlled governments are extremely and increasingly concerned about aging populations, which are seen as growing threats to corporate bottom-lines. Couple this concern with decades of documented US and British funding and research into Nazi-copied 'eugenics' intended to selectively cull unproductive resource consumers...and the high percentage of fatalities among the elderly during two consecutive epidemics (1998-2000) of deaths from Influenza-Like-Illness and related pneumonia and cardiac arrest appear very sinister indeed. Yet, why go to the expense and risk of blatantly spraying pathogens from jets to get rid of older folks (he asks counting his own gray hairs)? A less obvious and much cheaper course is to quietly encourage euthanasia in hospitals across North America and Australia, where doctors and nurses now admit that up to 40% of elderly patients are being deliberately killed - without their consent, and in many cases without any terminal ailment involved. Another effective tactic is to scare people into lining up for experimental vaccines often contaminated by pathgenic material. The constant hyping of vaccines for the flu, migraines and meningitis symptoms often seen in the wake of chemtrails is suspiciously coincidental. It is clear that, at the very least, heightened death rates among the elderly caught under heavy aerial spraying are being viewed as 'acceptable collateral damage' to a program deemed essential to national-corporate interests. For this reason, any official whistle-blower who dares to come forward with verifiable documentation concerning chemtrails will face legal repercussions that will make Daniel Elsberg's long incarceration for exposing the fake Gulf of Tonkin 'attack' and other Washington lies concerning Vietnam feel like a stay in a summer spa. Unless we rally to support and protect this brave soul. FUNGUS AMONG US Let's look closer at the illness rampant among our families and communities. While the corporate-controlled media continue to bleat about the 'flu', the CDC has consistently reported blood tests showing that between 65% and 99% of acutely ill patients jamming emergency rooms and clinics do not have the flu. Instead, officials with that infectious disease-tracking agency have publicly a
Re: CS>OT-Living in mold
In a message dated 6/28/00 4:32:16 PM Central Daylight Time, tm4...@aol.com writes: << If anyone can relate to this please help. I moved to a 2 bedroom condo (below ground) 3 years ago. It looks perfect to the eye. I had been treated for lyme but was getting better. As time went on I felt worse. I think I knnow why. I must have mold somewhere in here. Air blows out a vent in my bathroom and smells like a old basement,musty smell. The bedrooms feel damp alot and a dehumidifier takes out 40 pints of water a day. People and I are always sneezing and I get tons of "white goo" out my nose every day. I take CS but am not seeing anything after being on it a year. I am moving in August to above ground. Has anyone got any info on mold and what it does? Tami M >> Fungus can be a serious problem and can cause may lung diseases. Plus, they can invade the body in other ways. It can be difficult to kill them when the environment for their growth is good. Warmth and high humidity being two. Just about the best way is to get away from that atmosphere. Fungi are very difficult to kill both in and out of the body. In fact, some of the drugs used to do so are as bad or worse than the fungi. CS is a killer but is a contact killer. Same with hydrogen peroxide. But both should not add to the problems that you have. Unlike many other recommendations that one will get. But again, the best way is to eliminate their needs and so their growth. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>First Day uS Drop
Absorption of CO2? See if pH changes as well. Marshall Steve Young wrote: > Hi list, I have noticed when I make CS (LVDC method, pure DW, no > additives), the conductivity of the end product drops during the first > day. I measure the conductivity with the Hanna PWT immediately after > completing and stirring a batch, then the next day. Here are some > readings to illustrate this. They are after - next day, in > microSeimens: 23.8 - 16.0, 19.2 - 10.5, 22.6 - 16.2, 10.0 - 7.8. What > is going on during the first day to cause the drop in measured > "strength"? --Steve
Re: CS>Polarity Switching & Stirring
In a message dated 6/29/00 8:46:46 AM EST, you...@konnections.com writes: << Subj: CS>Polarity Switching & Stirring Date: 6/29/00 8:46:46 AM EST From: you...@konnections.com (Steve Young) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com (Silver List) Hi list, I did some experiments with DC polarity switching which are interesting. I use a constant current supply of 1.67 ma into #12 silver electrodes 3.9" of weatted length spaced 1.25 inches apart. "Brewing" time is two hours starting with 1.6 uS DW, no additives. I can start drawing 1.67 ma immediately as the generator can keep a constant current up to several hundred volts. Typical starting voltage is about 140, which drops over the two hours to around 12 volts or so as the conductivity increases. The control batch (no polarity switching) ended up measuring 16.2 uS. Switching polarity every 17 seconds produced 7.8 uS. Likewise, switching polarity every minute produced 7.8 uS. The polarity switching does indeed keep electrode sludge buildup low, but at a cost of reducing the strength by about 48% for a given run time. Question - why the dramatic reduction in strength from polarity switching, when all other conditions are the same? It is interesting to monitor the voltage drop across the electrodes during polarity switching. At the moment of switching, the voltage drops for a second, then rises above the nominal state value for 8 - 10 seconds, then returns to nominal. Must be some interesting dynamic electrochemical "readjusting" going on when the polarity shifts. Steve: Since you are reversing polarity, the electrochemical reactions are reversed. Previous to switching polarity, the boundary layer at the anode/electrolyte interface had a surplus of charged silver particles, and the boundary layer at the cathode/electrolyte boundary had a deficit of charged silver particles. (Thinking of this electrolysis as an electron pump at the electrodes may help understand what I'm saying.) The migration of these charged particles across either the cathode or anode, electrolyte boundary layer generally constitutes the rate limiting step for the corresponding electrochemical reactions. My guess is that the migration of oxidized silver away from the anode/electrolyte boundary layer constitutes the overall rate limiting step since that's where the whole process begins and initially it's very slow. When the polarity is reversed, you now have a silver ion (I'm using the 'Ivan approved' definition of 'ion' here) surplus where you had a deficit, and a silver ion deficit where you had a surplus, forcing your current controlled system to significantly lower voltage (while excess supplies or deficits last, i.e., while unsteady state conditions remain) to maintain constant current set by your controller. After that, it probably overshoots voltage a bit on its way towards reestablishing steady state. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>IS SLUDGE BAD?
In a message dated 6/29/00 8:58:55 AM EST, mama2b...@aol.com writes: << Date:6/29/00 8:58:55 AM EST From: mama2b...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com SO IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH SLUDGE? WILL A LITTLE BIT OF SLUDGE KILL YA? >> List: The fact that some of us have (inadvertently or knowing) ingested sludge is important because if, under those rather extreme conditions, they suffered no ill effects, that fact begs the following question: Exactly under WHAT conditions will ingesting CS be harmful? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Help Save (what's left of the) Brazilian Rain Forest
Hello everyone, Sorry this is a chain later, but its vital you all add your names - so please read! Brazilian Congress is now voting on a project that will reduce the Amazon forest to 50% of its size. The area to be deforested is 4 times the size of Portugal and would be mainly used for agriculture and pastures forlive stock...All the wood is to be sold to international markets in the form of wood chips, by multinational companies... The truth is that the soil in the Amazon forest is useless without the forest itself. Its quality is very acidic and the region is prone to constant floods. At this time more than 160.000 square kilometers deforested with the same purpose, are abandoned and in the process of becoming deserts. We cannot let this happen. Copy the text into a new email, put your complete name in the list below, and send to everyone you know. (Don't just forward it cos then it will end up with rows of >>>'s ) If you are the 100th person to sign please send a copy to fsavi...@openlink.com.brthank you. 01-Fernanda de Souza Saviolo - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 18/06/83 02-Nara Maria de Souza - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 11/08/50 03-Julio Cesar Fraga Viana - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 01/01/54 04-Monica Grotkowsky Brotto -Sao Paulo - SP - 23/08/77 05-Mauricio Grotkowsky Brotto - S*o Paulo -SP 29/09/78 06-Ricardo A. Corrallo - SP 16/08/7507-Sunny Jonathan - SP 18/10/1970 08-Leonardo Larsen Rocha - SC 23/01/197209-Evandro Sestrem - SC 26/06/1979 10-Marco Aurlio Wehrmeister - Blumenau - SC 18/06/1979 11-Angela Maria Gonalves - Blumenau -SC 25/07/1959 12-Alessandra Bernardino - Blumenau - SC - 25/12/1980 13-Pedro Carstens Penfold - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 12/09/82 14-Annelena Porto Delgado - S*o Paulo - SP - 27/07/77 15-Erica Couto -S*o Paulo -SP 29/09/7816-Elaine Couto- S*o Paulo - SP 17-Tatiana de Almeida Voivodic - S*o Paulo-SP 18-Solange B Furlanetto - S*o Paulo / SP 19-Marcos de Souza Mello - S*o Paulo / SP20-Eliane Santiago - S*o Paulo / SP 21-Francisca J. Bezerra Alves Ara*jo - S*o Paulo / SP 22-Carlos Alberto Dantas Junior - Rio de Janeiro / RJ 23-Daniel Rodrigues da Cruz - Rio de Janeiro / RJ 24-Gabriella Gaida - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 04/05/72 25-Ceclia Silva Teixeira Pinto - RJ - 03/06/7526-Tania Santos Miguel 27-Celso Henrique Diniz Valente de Figueiredo - RJ - 10/08/49 28-Marcelo Lopes Rheingantz - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 20/12/80 29-Rodrigo Tassinari de Oliveira - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 19/04/83 30-Andr Lobato Pinheiro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 07/07/81 31-Ismael dos Santos Silva - RJ - 28/08/79 32-Gustavo Alexandre Caetano Correa - RJ - 08/09/80 33-Juana Varella Barca de Amorim - Rio de Janeiro, 14/03/83 34-Nara Faria Silva -RJ- Rio de Janeiro , 15/12/82 35-Isabella Jaggi - SP - S*o Paulo, 03/12/82 36-Diana de Andrade Freitas - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 21/06/83 37-Karina Dourado - S*o Paulo - 18/01/80 38-Pablo Genuncio Garcia - Rio de Janeiro - 27-06-81 39-Fabola Morais de Lucca - S*o Paulo - 03/02-78 40-Alexei Morais de Lucca - S*o Paulo - SP - 12/08/75 41-Renata Regina Roxo - S*o Paulo - SP - 03/11/74 42-Fernanda Teixeira - S*o Paulo - SP - 17/09/76 43-Patricia Freitas - S*o Paulo - SP44-Cintia Regina K*rner - Alemanha - DE - 45-Wolfgang K*rner - Alemanha - DE46-Roseani Vieira Rocha - San Francisco - CA 47-Angela Ichimura - S*o Paulo - SP48-Assunta Viola - Sao Paulo - SP 50-Marina Amaral - Alemanha - DE 51-Fabian Rodrigues Caetano - Sao Paulo - SP - 15/01/1971 52-Luciana Cabrera- Santa Barbara- Ca53- Andrea Torres- Lahaina, Hawaii 54- Carla Duarte- New York, NY55- Sergio Goes- New York, NY 56- Itaal Shur - New York, NY57- Hiroyoku Sanada-New York,NY 58- Marianne Ebert-new york,NY59- Gloriana M. Calhoun - New York, NY 60- Roger Jazilek - New York, NY61- Cheryl To - New York, NY 62- Judy Mercer - Paris, France63- Evelyne Pouget- Woodstock, NY 64- Hera-Woodstock, NY65- Nicos Peonides - Cyprus - New York NY 66 - Fiona Cousins - new York, NY67 - Alistair Millington - London, UK 68 - Edgar Craggs - Bristol, UK69 - Chris Hastie - Nottingham, UK 70 - Adam Barley - Bristol, UK71 - Dawn Morgan - Bristol, UK 72 - Lottie Berthoud - Bristol, UK73 - Julia Simnett - Bristol, UK 74 - Lindsey Colbourne - Bath, UK75 - Wendy Lawton - Bath, UK 76- Ruth Stevenson - Machynlleth, Powys77- Rod Edwards - Machynlleth Powys UK 78 - Hayley Myles - Machynlleth UK79 - Steve Batt - Devon UK 80 - Angela Reid - Devon UK81 - Gordon Reid - Devon UK 82 - Carl Haggerty - Exeter, Devon UK (11/09/76) 83 - Alan Watson - Somerset, UK84 - Steve Marriott - Somerset UK 85 - Roger James Bristol UK86 - Tom Thurston, Bristol, UK 87 - Howard Brown - Birmingham, UK 88 - Alice Branston - Birmingham, UK 89 - Jo Prior - Camberley - UK 90 - Brett M. Cherwinski - Somerville , USA 91 - Claus M. Grutzka - Somerville, USA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eski
Re: CS>Help Save (what's left of the) Brazilian Rain Forest
Hi Roger, Sorry, but the "Amazon deforestation" IS A MYTH!! Please read: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2626_xex_shaky_scienc.shtml Here are the first 3 paragraphs of the article: "Patrick Moore became an instant celebrity in 1977 when a photograph showing him cradling a baby seal in defiance of arrest by Canadian authorities was broadcast around the world. "As the front man for the environmental activist group Greenpeace, he helped turn public opinion around on the high-profile issues of whaling, seal hunting, nuclear power and chemical pollution. "Today the environmental scientist and leader of a group called Greenspirit has a new cause -- alerting the public to what he calls the "myth" that the Amazon rainforest is endangered by development and deforestation." On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:48:50 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: >Hello everyone, > Sorry this is a chain later, but its vital you >all add your names >- so please read! > >Brazilian Congress is now voting on a project that >will reduce the >Amazon forest to 50% of its size. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Help Save (what's left of the) Brazilian Rain Forest
Roger, everyone, As a couple of you have suggested to me in private e-mail, yes, it's not a good idea to post chain letters to the list. Also, this particular item is rather farther afield from CS, and even loosely related alt-health subjects, than we generally (hope) to go. Dean's link to worldnetdaily does provide some interesting counterpoint to the eco-enthusiasts' claims. Thank you both, gentlemen. The net effect probably positive if we don't overrun the list with further discussion. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner Roger wrote: > Hello everyone, > Sorry this is a chain later, but its vital you all add your > names - so please read! > > Brazilian Congress is now voting on a project that will reduce the > Amazon forest to 50% of its size. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chemtrail update
Dear Marshall, The day before yesterday I was watching "Unsolved Mysteries" on Lifetime Channel and one segment was about a town in Washington getting some gelatinous goo dumped on it, making folks sick. Talk about weird! I didn`t see the segment when it first aired, so I don`t know how old it was. I wonder if the town has had anything happen since then? One of the citizens on the segment reported a lot of aircraft activity, and even black choppers. I wonder... Marsha PS, I printed out your post to show my sister, the ultimate disbeliever. Won`t even use CS... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS machines
Thank you Marshall. I wish I had known that when I first started drinking CS---though blue is my favorite color. Can you elaborate on the toxic effects of silver chlorite? PG >Addition of salt can make silver chloride, a toxic compound that can >photoexpose in >your skin and turn you blue permanently. Always use pure distilled water. >If you >need a quicker start then warm it up, or add a little CS from the previous >batch. > >Marshall > >Pamela Grant wrote: > >> I noticed that the directions for the use of saline was not part of your >> directions. Is that a thing of the past, no longer recommended and if so, >> why? >> >> >Simplest CS machine can be made for under $5. Go to radio shack and >> >purchase a >> >9 volt battery clip, a nine volt battery, and a package of alligator clips. >> >Acquire some .999 silver wire and a gallon of distilled water. >> > >> >Put the water in an 8 oz. glass. Take the silver wire and bend it so >>that it >> >hangs over the sides with an inch or two in the water on opposite sides >>of the >> >glass. Connect one end of 2 alligator clips to the wire, and the other >>end to >> >the battery clip. Connect the battery and time the process. >> > >> >Marshall >> > >> >morganstu...@aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> Mary, you should make your own. I was given instructions by one of >>the list >> >> members and made a cs machine in about 20 minutes for about $15.00. >>It was >> >> unbelievably simple. I have been making and using cs ever since. >> >> >> >> Diane M. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Sluge
Bob, interesting. I would recommend a thin sponge to keep the area moist with CS. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Sluge
Mamabear; One of my early cs machine customers told me that he had cured skin cancer by using the black sludge from the electrodes directly on the cancer on his hand along with keeping it moist with CS. Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS machines
How does one be SURE NOT to make silver chlorite---or is it just as simple as NOT using salt? PG >Addition of salt can make silver chloride, a toxic compound that can >photoexpose in >your skin and turn you blue permanently. Always use pure distilled water. >If you >need a quicker start then warm it up, or add a little CS from the previous >batch. > >Marshall > >Pamela Grant wrote: > >> I noticed that the directions for the use of saline was not part of your >> directions. Is that a thing of the past, no longer recommended and if so, >> why? >> >> >Simplest CS machine can be made for under $5. Go to radio shack and >> >purchase a >> >9 volt battery clip, a nine volt battery, and a package of alligator clips. >> >Acquire some .999 silver wire and a gallon of distilled water. >> > >> >Put the water in an 8 oz. glass. Take the silver wire and bend it so >>that it >> >hangs over the sides with an inch or two in the water on opposite sides >>of the >> >glass. Connect one end of 2 alligator clips to the wire, and the other >>end to >> >the battery clip. Connect the battery and time the process. >> > >> >Marshall >> > >> >morganstu...@aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> Mary, you should make your own. I was given instructions by one of >>the list >> >> members and made a cs machine in about 20 minutes for about $15.00. >>It was >> >> unbelievably simple. I have been making and using cs ever since. >> >> >> >> Diane M. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>IS SLUDGE BAD?
Hi Roger, I figure anyone quaffing about 50 liters of mine at one sitting will get just below the minimum level shown to cause harm in rabbits, when injected. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [SMTP:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 9:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>IS SLUDGE BAD? In a message dated 6/29/00 8:58:55 AM EST, mama2b...@aol.com writes: << Date:6/29/00 8:58:55 AM EST From: mama2b...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com SO IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH SLUDGE? WILL A LITTLE BIT OF SLUDGE KILL YA? >> List: The fact that some of us have (inadvertently or knowing) ingested sludge is important because if, under those rather extreme conditions, they suffered no ill effects, that fact begs the following question: Exactly under WHAT conditions will ingesting CS be harmful? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS machines
>The best reason for not using salt in making CS is that the particles >produced that way are known to be smaller and are presumed to be >safer and more bioavailable. Thank you Mike. That is a good enough reason alone. Yes? PG -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS machines
Use distilled water with nothing added. marshall Pamela Grant wrote: > How does one be SURE NOT to make silver chlorite---or is it just as simple > as NOT using salt? > > PG > > >Addition of salt can make silver chloride, a toxic compound that can > >photoexpose in > >your skin and turn you blue permanently. Always use pure distilled water. > >If you > >need a quicker start then warm it up, or add a little CS from the previous > >batch. > > > >Marshall > > > >Pamela Grant wrote: > > > >> I noticed that the directions for the use of saline was not part of your > >> directions. Is that a thing of the past, no longer recommended and if so, > >> why? > >> > >> >Simplest CS machine can be made for under $5. Go to radio shack and > >> >purchase a > >> >9 volt battery clip, a nine volt battery, and a package of alligator > >> >clips. > >> >Acquire some .999 silver wire and a gallon of distilled water. > >> > > >> >Put the water in an 8 oz. glass. Take the silver wire and bend it so > >>that it > >> >hangs over the sides with an inch or two in the water on opposite sides > >>of the > >> >glass. Connect one end of 2 alligator clips to the wire, and the other > >>end to > >> >the battery clip. Connect the battery and time the process. > >> > > >> >Marshall > >> > > >> >morganstu...@aol.com wrote: > >> > > >> >> Mary, you should make your own. I was given instructions by one of > >>the list > >> >> members and made a cs machine in about 20 minutes for about $15.00. > >>It was > >> >> unbelievably simple. I have been making and using cs ever since. > >> >> > >> >> Diane M. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >> >> > >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >> >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >> >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >> >> > >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chemtrail update
I had pneumonia last year--presumably from mycoplasma fermantens. I began colloidal silver(can't remember exactly when--perhaps by May), but I did not notice it to help the lungs---it did help other problems00which I believe was due to exposure to chemtrails. I have read that ethylene dibromide has given lungs problems to those exposed to fall-out(as it was found to be in chemtrails during that period--don't know if any longer the case)---perhaps both substances were culprits. Has anyone done any experiments with CS and fungus---would love to hear of your results. Thank you. PG >Remember, CS should be effective against fungus! > >Rense.com > >Special To Rense.com >Some Comments & Conclusions On Cassani >& Chemtrails >By William Thomas >6-23-00 > >Erminia Cassani deserves thanks and congratulations for her long and >sometimes personally perilous investigations into low-level air drops of >pathogen-bearing gel and red powder over suburban neighborhoods in >Ontario, and across the USA. Throughout her research I have kept our >confidentiality >agreement on certain aspects of her work until she was ready to publish >her preliminary findings. It is time that we heard from this key researcher, >and I am glad she has come forward now. > >After 19 months' investigation, I believe that the higher-level 'chemtrail' >operation involving 700 US Air Force tanker planes and some civilian >airliners is separate, though possibly related to, the splattering of >lab-tested bacteria, molds and fungi over homes from aircraft flying at >tree-top level. > >Even more disturbing are recently witnessed deliberate spray attacks on >some vocal aerial observers' headquarters and homes. Seen in the context >of earlier low-level attacks against William Wallace and his wife Anne in the >remote mountains of Washington state (after Wallace went to the media >insisting they cover chemtrails) - these attempts at intimidation are >serious acts of military aggression that prove that something sensitive is >indeed going on. > >But what? > >I concur with Cassani's conclusions that it makes zero sense for a >government torandomly sicken its entire citizenry with air-delivered >organisms. Nor are repeated attacks of self-replicating bio-agents >necessary. If continued, such overt bio-attacks could destroy the US >economy, while risking rebellion from an armed and angry populace. More >to the point: no disease-causing organisms have ever been found in >chemtrails. > >While lab techs were startled and concerned by the biological organisms >and markers turning up in samples from low-level drops that left at least one >homeowner stricken with a heart attack, the molds and fungi that turned >up in the only tested sample of rainwater taken immediately after heavy >high-level chemtrail spraying were deemed by an independent Ontario lab >as entirely normal - 'with no one species predominating.' > >CONTEMPLATING A CULL > >What about an airborne 'cull' of the elderly and similar 'useless eaters' >burdening cash-strapped governments with their burgeoning needs for >subsistence and medical assistance? A little-publicized high-level summit >last January saw president Clinton (invited) and former heads and top >officials from Japan, Germany, the World Bank, security agencies and >major financial firms discussing the 'Impacts of Aging on Business'. >Corporate-controlled governments are extremely and increasingly concerned >about aging populations, which are seen as growing threats to corporate >bottom-lines. > >Couple this concern with decades of documented US and British funding and >research into Nazi-copied 'eugenics' intended to selectively cull >unproductive resource consumers...and the high percentage of fatalities >among the elderly during two consecutive epidemics (1998-2000) of deaths >from Influenza-Like-Illness and related pneumonia and cardiac arrest >appear very sinister indeed. > >Yet, why go to the expense and risk of blatantly spraying pathogens from >jets to get rid of older folks (he asks counting his own gray hairs)? A >less obvious and much cheaper course is to quietly encourage euthanasia >in hospitals across North America and Australia, where doctors and nurses >now admit that up to 40% of elderly patients are being deliberately killed - >without their consent, and in many cases without any terminal ailment >involved. > >Another effective tactic is to scare people into lining up for experimental >vaccines often contaminated by pathgenic material. The constant hyping of >vaccines for the flu, migraines and meningitis symptoms often seen in the >wake of chemtrails is suspiciously coincidental. > >It is clear that, at the very least, heightened death rates among the >elderly caught under heavy aerial spraying are being viewed as 'acceptable >collateral damage' to a program deemed essential to national-corporate >interests. For this reason, any official whistle-blower who dares to come >forward with verifiable documentation concerning chem
Re: CS>Chemtrail update
Marsha, take a visit to carnicorn.com >Dear Marshall, >The day before yesterday I was watching "Unsolved Mysteries" on Lifetime >Channel and one segment was about a town in Washington getting some >gelatinous goo dumped on it, making folks sick. Talk about weird! I didn`t >see the segment when it first aired, so I don`t know how old it was. I >wonder if the town has had anything happen since then? >One of the citizens on the segment reported a lot of aircraft activity, and >even black choppers. > I wonder... >Marsha >PS, I printed out your post to show my sister, the ultimate disbeliever. >Won`t even use CS... > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chemtrail update
Hi Pamela, carnicorn.com doesn't work for me. Any ideas why? Spelling correct? Trem At 03:25 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Marsha, take a visit to carnicorn.com >Dear Marshall, >The day before yesterday I was watching "Unsolved Mysteries" on Lifetime >Channel and one segment was about a town in Washington getting some >gelatinous goo dumped on it, making folks sick. Talk about weird! I didn`t >see the segment when it first aired, so I don`t know how old it was. I >wonder if the town has had anything happen since then? >One of the citizens on the segment reported a lot of aircraft activity, and >even black choppers. > I wonder... >Marsha >PS, I printed out your post to show my sister, the ultimate disbeliever. >Won`t even use CS... > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Sluge
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:10:17 EDT, mama2b...@aol.com wrote: >Bob, interesting. I would recommend a thin sponge to keep the area moist >with CS. There's an ointment kit available that can make a thin ointment out of CS. It's made by Benchmark U.S.A., Inc in Salt Lake City (reading off the jar that comes with the kit). I got my kit from www.elixa.com The ointment will dry on your skin, holding the CS in place until you wash it off. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chemtrail update
try carnicom.com >Hi Pamela, > >carnicorn.com doesn't work for me. Any ideas why? Spelling correct? > >Trem > > > >At 03:25 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: > >Marsha, take a visit to carnicorn.com > > > >> >Dear Marshall, >> >The day before yesterday I was watching "Unsolved Mysteries" on Lifetime >> >Channel and one segment was about a town in Washington getting some >> >gelatinous goo dumped on it, making folks sick. Talk about weird! I didn`t >> >see the segment when it first aired, so I don`t know how old it was. I >> >wonder if the town has had anything happen since then? >> >One of the citizens on the segment reported a lot of aircraft activity, and >> >even black choppers. >> > I wonder... >> >Marsha >> >PS, I printed out your post to show my sister, the ultimate disbeliever. >> >Won`t even use CS... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> > >> >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> > >> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> >>
CS>lyme disease
What causes lyme disease? Is it caused by a vax? I know the story about the ticks but I'm just wondering if there is another story we don't hear about. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chemtrail update
I certainly hope as mycoplasma fermentens alone is said to be responsible for a slew of diseases(such as Lupus, Alzheimers, CFS/FMS/MCSHIV,AIDS,CFIDS,etc.). >Remember, CS should be effective against fungus! > >Rense.com > >Special To Rense.com >Some Comments & Conclusions On Cassani >& Chemtrails >By William Thomas >6-23-00 > >Erminia Cassani deserves thanks and congratulations for her long and >sometimes personally perilous investigations into low-level air drops of >pathogen-bearing gel and red powder over suburban neighborhoods in >Ontario, and across the USA. Throughout her research I have kept our >confidentiality >agreement on certain aspects of her work until she was ready to publish >her preliminary findings. It is time that we heard from this key researcher, >and I am glad she has come forward now. > >After 19 months' investigation, I believe that the higher-level 'chemtrail' >operation involving 700 US Air Force tanker planes and some civilian >airliners is separate, though possibly related to, the splattering of >lab-tested bacteria, molds and fungi over homes from aircraft flying at >tree-top level. > >Even more disturbing are recently witnessed deliberate spray attacks on >some vocal aerial observers' headquarters and homes. Seen in the context >of earlier low-level attacks against William Wallace and his wife Anne in the >remote mountains of Washington state (after Wallace went to the media >insisting they cover chemtrails) - these attempts at intimidation are >serious acts of military aggression that prove that something sensitive is >indeed going on. > >But what? > >I concur with Cassani's conclusions that it makes zero sense for a >government torandomly sicken its entire citizenry with air-delivered >organisms. Nor are repeated attacks of self-replicating bio-agents >necessary. If continued, such overt bio-attacks could destroy the US >economy, while risking rebellion from an armed and angry populace. More >to the point: no disease-causing organisms have ever been found in >chemtrails. > >While lab techs were startled and concerned by the biological organisms >and markers turning up in samples from low-level drops that left at least one >homeowner stricken with a heart attack, the molds and fungi that turned >up in the only tested sample of rainwater taken immediately after heavy >high-level chemtrail spraying were deemed by an independent Ontario lab >as entirely normal - 'with no one species predominating.' > >CONTEMPLATING A CULL > >What about an airborne 'cull' of the elderly and similar 'useless eaters' >burdening cash-strapped governments with their burgeoning needs for >subsistence and medical assistance? A little-publicized high-level summit >last January saw president Clinton (invited) and former heads and top >officials from Japan, Germany, the World Bank, security agencies and >major financial firms discussing the 'Impacts of Aging on Business'. >Corporate-controlled governments are extremely and increasingly concerned >about aging populations, which are seen as growing threats to corporate >bottom-lines. > >Couple this concern with decades of documented US and British funding and >research into Nazi-copied 'eugenics' intended to selectively cull >unproductive resource consumers...and the high percentage of fatalities >among the elderly during two consecutive epidemics (1998-2000) of deaths >from Influenza-Like-Illness and related pneumonia and cardiac arrest >appear very sinister indeed. > >Yet, why go to the expense and risk of blatantly spraying pathogens from >jets to get rid of older folks (he asks counting his own gray hairs)? A >less obvious and much cheaper course is to quietly encourage euthanasia >in hospitals across North America and Australia, where doctors and nurses >now admit that up to 40% of elderly patients are being deliberately killed - >without their consent, and in many cases without any terminal ailment >involved. > >Another effective tactic is to scare people into lining up for experimental >vaccines often contaminated by pathgenic material. The constant hyping of >vaccines for the flu, migraines and meningitis symptoms often seen in the >wake of chemtrails is suspiciously coincidental. > >It is clear that, at the very least, heightened death rates among the >elderly caught under heavy aerial spraying are being viewed as 'acceptable >collateral damage' to a program deemed essential to national-corporate >interests. For this reason, any official whistle-blower who dares to come >forward with verifiable documentation concerning chemtrails will face >legal repercussions that will make Daniel Elsberg's long incarceration for >exposing the fake Gulf of Tonkin 'attack' and other Washington lies >concerning Vietnam feel like a stay in a summer spa. > >Unless we rally to support and protect this brave soul. > >FUNGUS AMONG US > >Let's look closer at the illness rampant among our families and >communities. While the corporate-controlled media continue to bleat
Re: CS>Help Save (what's left of the) Brazilian Rain Forest
Mike: Agreed. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>BYU CS Test
Hi Ya'all; Its pot stirring time again I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was done by one of his graduate students, David Revelli. The material was as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about 10nm in size. They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction. Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver??? "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Colloidal Silver Ointment?
To all list members: Has anyone ever made this ointment by Elixa and was successful with it's healing abilities? Does anyone recommend a better or easier way (moneywise) to make another type of ointment. I am asking this because I have a 6 year old who always has lots of boo boos to have soothed quickly! This is from the Elixa online catalog: 1) 16 oz mixing/storage jar, (4) 1/4 oz storage jars, (5) bags of polymer, (1) dropper vial of triethanolamine, (1) wooden stir stick. The kit contains enough ingredients to make 5 eight ounce batches of Colloidal Silver Ointment. To make CS Ointment, make 8 oz of Extra-strength Colloidal Silver by running it through 2 or 3 complete cycles with the device. The solution should be golden to dark brown in color. Using a coffee filter or cloth, strain the solution into the mixing jar and add 1 bag of polymer and stir well. Add 4 full droppers of triethanolamine and stir for 1-2 minutes. The mixture will thicken and turn into a smooth "golden" Colloidal Silver Ointment ready for use or storage. Thanks, Diane M. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Colloidal Silver Ointment?
Colloidal silver and aloe vera gel should give quick relief. Check the archives 'cause this has been discussed before, with some good ideas coming up! Chuck No one expects the Spammish repetition Spam! Spam! Spam! Spam! On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:33:05 EDT, morganstu...@aol.com wrote: >Has anyone ever made this ointment by Elixa and was successful with it's >healing abilities? Does anyone recommend a better or easier way (moneywise) >to make another type of ointment. I am asking this because I have a 6 year >old who always has lots of boo boos to have soothed quickly! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Colloidal Silver Ointment?
I have made the CS Gel with this ointment kit. It works as described. I have not got any information yet as to it's effectiveness. I do wonder though why the information in the kit says you are not allowed to sell the gel you make from the kit. Ingredient wise this appears to be the same stuff used in Aloe Vera gel available in stores. I have not been able to locate any other source for these chemicals. Jim - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: CS>Colloidal Silver Ointment? > To all list members: > Has anyone ever made this ointment by Elixa and was successful with it's > healing abilities? Does anyone recommend a better or easier way (moneywise) > to make another type of ointment. I am asking this because I have a 6 year > old who always has lots of boo boos to have soothed quickly! > > This is from the Elixa online catalog: > > 1) 16 oz mixing/storage jar, (4) 1/4 oz storage jars, (5) bags of polymer, > (1) dropper vial of triethanolamine, (1) wooden stir stick. > The kit contains enough ingredients to make 5 eight ounce batches of > Colloidal Silver Ointment. > > To make CS Ointment, make 8 oz of Extra-strength Colloidal Silver by running > it through 2 or 3 complete cycles with the device. The solution should be > golden to dark brown in color. > > Using a coffee filter or cloth, strain the solution into the mixing jar and > add 1 bag of polymer and stir well. Add 4 full droppers of triethanolamine > and stir for 1-2 minutes. The mixture will thicken and turn into a smooth > "golden" Colloidal Silver Ointment ready for use or storage. > > Thanks, > Diane M. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>IS SLUDGE BAD?
At 10:28 AM 6/29/2000, MAMA wrote: "SO IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH SLUDGE? WILL A LITTLE BIT OF SLUDGE KILL YA?" - We all have a different opinion of what we consider is good or safe for our body, and also what is good medicine! As an engineer, I want to make the best medicine I can! I do not want to make or take it diluted or mixed with trash. Since Cs costs 60 cents a gallon, it means nothing to discard a mistake. Sure, you won't die or become disabled or even hurt, but I have a choice and I choose to avoid eating questionable or unknown stuff. If we were making alcohol to drink, would you use the stuff your neighbor filters thru bread? Do you eat the mold that grew on top of the spaghetti sauce, the meat that fell on the floor, the soup a roach just landed in! They won't kill YA! By the way Mama, 'YA' is not spelled properly! f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS machines
At 10:28 AM 6/29/2000, you wrote: > Pamela Grant wrote: > > > I noticed that the directions for the use of saline was not part of > > your directions. Is that a thing of the past, no longer recommended > > and if so, why? Marshall replied: > Addition of salt can make silver chloride, a toxic compound that can > photoexpose in your skin and turn you blue permanently. Always use > pure distilled water. If you need a quicker start then warm it up, > or add a little CS from the previous batch. I'd like to rein in Marshall's enthusiasm just a *tiny* bit... Yes, silver chloride is toxic and can precipitate in the skin to cause argyria. However, the very small quantities created and consumed by those using salt as an accelerant for making CS have *not* caused any cases of argyria and are unlikely to be able to. Just do the figures... a few ppm of AgCl ... how many gallons of the product would you have to drink to amount to the several hundreds of milligrams of silver known to be required to cause a problem? And *that* assumes all the AgCl precipitates in the skin, when in fact it is eliminated at a modest rate by the body, and only when that mechanism is overwhelmed does precipitation occur. The best reason for not using salt in making CS is that the particles produced that way are known to be smaller and are presumed to be safer and more bioavailable. Note that I fully *agree* that it's best to use distilled water. I just don't want to overstate the argyria issue. Be well, Mike D. Yes, Mike, a little won't hurt but you missed the bigger point that silver chloride is a very weak source of silver, it being nearly insoluble in water! Add a few grains of table salt to a half ounce of your Cs and note it gets cloudy (assuming you had some free ions to start with). That is the silver chloride and it will usually grow into larger crystals and settle out, looking like the salt crystals you added but leaving you some plain old salty water, sans silver! Back to my old complaint - "weak medicine (salt water in this case) can be deceiving and thus indirectly harmful to those that are relying on the Cs to treat a serious problem!" If you are willing to take that stuff, any cure must come from the power of faith, as it will with many people! f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Colloidal Silver Ointment?
I have made and used a thin gel using aloe vera gel as a base,i put the 3/16th by 4 inch wet .999 silver at 1 1/4 inch spacing 27 vdc in 8 oz of the aloe gel and ran for 15 minutes stirring with a plastic fork constantly,it gets working fast because of the aloes conductivity so watch it close,then added 500 mg msm to it. kinda made me wonder as i watched this process how much ionic or elimental silver was actually going into it,the pos electrode showed definite signs of degradation.. i have used this on burns cuts and jock itch it appears to be doing a lot better job on toe nail fungus than straight cs..kept jock itch down but not as good as the comercial products,burn pain went away almost instantly,cuts healed with little or no infections,,try it you;ll like it..260dave.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Poison Ivy
(delayed transmission due to got stuck in out box) I want a microscope for similar studies Bob - what is the maximum resolution and rough cost? Been afraid to buy one and then find I don't have enough resolution! I would think you could use one of the low light level digital cameras that mpja.com or other electronic parts houses sell for under $100. An email to their sales dept. would probably get a quick response, as I am sure they have had the same request before. f...@health2us.com At 05:34 PM 6/27/2000, you wrote: Dear fearless leader; CS has worked on Poison ivy, ticks and chiggers and spider bites and others for years for our whole family. I use brown plastic spray bottles from Wall Mart for everything . About a year ago I began spraying it on my once bald head and the hair is growing back. If you spray it on warts they will also go away . I had a man with a terrible foot infection that the hospital was just making worse after several months. I made a quart of Colloidal Silver and it immediately began to heal . It took only two weeks for it to be gone and mostly healed and out of danger. My wife begins the spring season by eating a couple of small ivy leaves several times and has no more trouble with it . She tears them up and puts them in a piece of bread. I have some of these machines in Africa and from the preliminary reports CS will cure Malaria . Blackberry season is about upon us here every year we make juice and put a lot away for later use . We use large plastic soda pop bottles and put in a table spoon of CS It will never ferment and lasts fine . Be sure to use enough and mix it good. I have a new microscope same as in the university science lab ,from China. Does any one know where a video attachment may be had and an idea of the price. I would like to show every one the results of blood treatment using Cs and the Zappers and the Beck machine. With this you can watch as very contaminated blood with almost no white cells and all red cells stacked up to where none are effective. It takes about 4 to 5 weeks and the blood is like a new born babies. We had a black man from Africa that had blood that looked like sewer water. If there was a disease he had it , 5 weeks they were all gone. I want to put all. of the various bacteria and parasites where everyone can see for themselves as the change takes place. Believe me it does, big time. This is the greatest medical advance ever in my mind . Drugs are poison and petroleum based chemicals have no place in our bodies. With Gods Love to all Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>First Day uS Drop
At 10:28 AM 6/29/2000, you wrote: I have noticed when I make CS (LVDC method, pure DW, no additives), the conductivity of the end product drops during the first day. I measure the conductivity with the Hanna PWT immediately after completing and stirring a batch, then the next day. Here are some readings to illustrate this. They are after - next day, in microSeimens: 23.8 - 16.0, 19.2 - 10.5, 22.6 - 16.2, 10.0 - 7.8. What is going on during the first day to cause the drop in measured "strength"? --Steve I would check it after an hour and 4 hours also. If most drop is in the first hour you did not mix it well! If a steady drop thru 4 hours and 24 then you have crystals and they are growing (stealing the ions). Is there any drop after a few days? Make and keep it in glass or plastic? f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Computer Worm discovery
I discover that I may have been sending out a worm since June 17th. >From Dr Mercola's newsletter... dated 25 June... "If You Use Outlook Express, last week a worm virus was sent out that only affects Outlook Express users. This is clearly the minority of people reading this newsletter. All viral definitions were updated and hard disks cleaned of the infection, so this should not recur. " As the Newsletter that came out on June 17 was the one in question, I'm trying to notify anyone that I emailed after 21:43 hours on the 17th. My apologies if this affects you - I only read the latest newsletter today and was horrified to find the thing on my computer. This is what to look for first: c:\windows\kak.htm Here is the information from the site where you can download a cleaner if you need it: What is WScript.KAKWorm? KAK is a Win32-based e-mail worm. It alters a file that your computer uses whenever you send out an email message or newsgroup posting so that every message that goes out has the virus attached to it. It does not corrupt any data on your hard drive, however it is designed to shut your machine down on certain days which may inadvertantly result in a loss of data. How do I get it? KAK arrives as embeded script within an email message. Just opening the message infects your computer. You'll know you have it when you see strange messages start to pop-up such as: "Do you want to allow software such as ActiveX controls and plug-ins to run?", "Kagou-Anti-Kro$oft says not today!", and "S3 driver memory alloc failed" Your machine may also shut itself down on its own. Who's at risk? People running Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express and Internet Explorer 5.0. Those running MacOS and WebTV are immune to the virus. What exactly does the virus do to my computer? When you open an infected message the following lines are written to your Autoexec.bat file: @echo off>c:\windows\STARTM~1\Programs\Startup\kak.hta del c:\windows\STARTM~1\Programs\Startup\kak.hta The following files are installed on your machine: c:\windows\kak.htm c:\windows\system\(#).hta (this # is derived from the first eight characters of the subfolder located at: c:\Windows\Application Data\Identities\) c:\windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\kak.hta Plus all the bits in the registers and so on. go to www.getvirushelp.com and download the KAKCLEANER. It will also tell you to download another file from Microsoft to stop reinfection. Then you run the cleaner and the computer is fixed. Judith. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>BYU CS Test
Hi there Ole Bob, 96% elemental, 4% ionic! I have been privy to test results which show ionic silver to be much more effective in the test tube than elemental. Perhaps it is a further indication that in order to be absorbed silver is ionised in the body. I'm not sure what you are getting at here, "Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver???", but I should think the ASAP would fizz like crazy. A link to American Silver, the producers of ASAP used in these test. http://www.amsilver.com/news.htm I notice that it is stated that the test results done on this product are to be freely available! Also American Silver has filed a patent application for their process. Ivan. - Original Message - From: "Robert L. Berger" To: "silver-list" Sent: Friday, 30 June 2000 14:09 Subject: CS>BYU CS Test > Hi Ya'all; > > Its pot stirring time again > > I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago > and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was > done by one of his graduate students, David Revelli. The material was > as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a > Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic > silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about > 10nm in size. > > They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction. > > Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 > test for elemental silver??? > > "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
