CSPolarity Switching Stirring
At 10:28 AM 6/29/2000, you wrote: Hi list, I did some experiments with DC polarity switching which are interesting. I use a constant current supply of 1.67 ma into #12 silver electrodes 3.9 of weatted length spaced 1.25 inches apart. Brewing time is two hours starting with 1.6 uS DW, no additives. I can start drawing 1.67 ma immediately as the generator can keep a constant current up to several hundred volts. Typical starting voltage is about 140, which drops over the two hours to around 12 volts or so as the conductivity increases. The control batch (no polarity switching) ended up measuring 16.2 uS. Switching polarity every 17 seconds produced 7.8 uS. Likewise, switching polarity every minute produced 7.8 uS. The polarity switching does indeed keep electrode sludge buildup low, but at a cost of reducing the strength by about 48% for a given run time. Question - why the dramatic reduction in strength from polarity switching, when all other conditions are the same? It is interesting to monitor the voltage drop across the electrodes during polarity switching. At the moment of switching, the voltage drops for a second, then rises above the nominal state value for 8 - 10 seconds, then returns to nominal. Must be some interesting dynamic electrochemical readjusting going on when the polarity shifts. I did another batch with no polarity switching, but constant gentle stirring. It produced a 18.5 uS product (slightly stronger), but still had a bunch of sludge buildup. But I have to agree with Trem, I think stirring has some benefits, but they are not very overwhelming. I will see how the long term stability compares with the control batch. --Steve Sounds like the low mobility of the ions kept them from straying too far from the main electrode and they were mostly sucked back and reduced then ionized again! Think about the energy use, as if charging a capacitor with limited current; inject a charge - reverse and take it back. This give and take, would reduce the total work done and thus the net free ions, the product of your work performed! The voltage dip at reversal is the reversal of energy flow, into your source which would force your source to partially shut down. Sludge production up can not and should not be overly constrained. Just as you partially reduced the strength, you also retained some of the reduced ions (atoms) in your sol and thus a reduced quality. Light, non-disruptive circulation, as we use, prevents a heavy ion cloud buildup and thus the possibility of crystal growth, yet allows the sludge to build undisturbed on the negative electrode, so it can be dispose of! Because of this, we get away with 3/8 inch spacing on large area electrodes (2.25 sq.in.) and have very consistent batch to batch repeatability, void of elemental silver! Fred FREE alternative treatments that WORK! http://www.health2us.com
CSRe: Computer Worm discovery
I discover that I may have been sending out a worm since June 17th. From Dr Mercola's newsletter... dated 25 June... If You Use Outlook Express, last week a worm virus was sent out that only affects Outlook Express users. This is clearly the minority of people reading this newsletter. All viral definitions were updated and hard disks cleaned of the infection, so this should not recur. As the Newsletter that came out on June 17 was the one in question, I'm trying to notify anyone that I emailed after 21:43 hours on the 17th. My apologies if this affects you - I only read the latest newsletter today and was horrified to find the thing on my computer. This is what to look for first: c:\windows\kak.htm Here is the information from the site where you can download a cleaner if you need it: What is WScript.KAKWorm? KAK is a Win32-based e-mail worm. It alters a file that your computer uses whenever you send out an email message or newsgroup posting so that every message that goes out has the virus attached to it. It does not corrupt any data on your hard drive, however it is designed to shut your machine down on certain days which may inadvertantly result in a loss of data. How do I get it? KAK arrives as embeded script within an email message. Just opening the message infects your computer. You'll know you have it when you see strange messages start to pop-up such as: Do you want to allow software such as ActiveX controls and plug-ins to run?, Kagou-Anti-Kro$oft says not today!, and S3 driver memory alloc failed Your machine may also shut itself down on its own. Who's at risk? People running Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express and Internet Explorer 5.0. Those running MacOS and WebTV are immune to the virus. What exactly does the virus do to my computer? When you open an infected message the following lines are written to your Autoexec.bat file: @echo offc:\windows\STARTM~1\Programs\Startup\kak.hta del c:\windows\STARTM~1\Programs\Startup\kak.hta The following files are installed on your machine: c:\windows\kak.htm c:\windows\system\(#).hta (this # is derived from the first eight characters of the subfolder located at: c:\Windows\Application Data\Identities\) c:\windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\kak.hta Plus all the bits in the registers and so on. go to www.getvirushelp.com and download the KAKCLEANER. It will also tell you to download another file from Microsoft to stop reinfection. Then you run the cleaner and the computer is fixed. Judith. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBYU CS Test
Hi there Ole Bob, 96% elemental, 4% ionic! I have been privy to test results which show ionic silver to be much more effective in the test tube than elemental. Perhaps it is a further indication that in order to be absorbed silver is ionised in the body. I'm not sure what you are getting at here, Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver???, but I should think the ASAP would fizz like crazy. A link to American Silver, the producers of ASAP used in these test. http://www.amsilver.com/news.htm I notice that it is stated that the test results done on this product are to be freely available! Also American Silver has filed a patent application for their process. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 30 June 2000 14:09 Subject: CSBYU CS Test Hi Ya'all; Its pot stirring time again I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was done by one of his graduate students, David Revelli. The material was as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about 10nm in size. They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction. Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver??? Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBYU CS Test
Was it tested with H2O2 and was it polarity reversed product? If so, what were the results, what rep rate and electrode spacing? f...@health2us.com At 02:48 AM 6/30/2000, you wrote: Hi Ya'all; Its pot stirring time again I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was done by one of his graduate students, David Revelli. The material was as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about 10nm in size. They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction. Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver??? Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloidal Silver Ointment?
At 02:48 AM 6/30/2000, you wrote: To all list members: Has anyone ever made this ointment by Elixa and was successful with it's healing abilities? Does anyone recommend a better or easier way (moneywise) to make another type of ointment. I am asking this because I have a 6 year old who always has lots of boo boos to have soothed quickly! This is from the Elixa online catalog: 1) 16 oz mixing/storage jar, (4) 1/4 oz storage jars, (5) bags of polymer, (1) dropper vial of triethanolamine, (1) wooden stir stick. The kit contains enough ingredients to make 5 eight ounce batches of Colloidal Silver Ointment. To make CS Ointment, make 8 oz of Extra-strength Colloidal Silver by running it through 2 or 3 complete cycles with the device. The solution should be golden to dark brown in color. Using a coffee filter or cloth, strain the solution into the mixing jar and add 1 bag of polymer and stir well. Add 4 full droppers of triethanolamine and stir for 1-2 minutes. The mixture will thicken and turn into a smooth golden Colloidal Silver Ointment ready for use or storage. Thanks, Diane M. Yuck! Brown is bad and coffee filters or cloth filters are bad for Cs! You will have a very poor product - silver salts - better to just use all of it, so you have at least some useful forms of silver! Since it is external, crystals or sludge will not hurt! Fred FREE alternative treatments that WORK http://www.health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS machines
I wrote: The best reason for not using salt in making CS is that the particles produced that way are known to be smaller and are presumed to be safer and more bioavailable. Note that I fully *agree* that it's best to use distilled water. I just don't want to overstate the argyria issue. Fred replied: Yes, Mike, a little won't hurt but you missed the bigger point that silver chloride is a very weak source of silver ... weak medicine (salt water in this case) can be deceiving and thus indirectly harmful to those that are relying on the Cs to treat a serious problem! I was hoping to balance the argyria notion that Marshall raised. That was the point of my message. I would agree with your weak medicine concern -- except that we know many folks who did use salt-accelerated CS quite effectively long before the popularization of no-salt recipes. I have to believe, with as much silver as sputtered off the electrodes in that highly conductive water, that you'd use up the capacity to make chloride at some point and be generating silver, albeit with larger particle size as I noted above. I don't advocate using salt. However, the stuff did (does) work, and not all by faith, I'm sure. I don't think we need to exaggerate the issues to justify using what we've learned since then. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBYU CS Test
How about Water Oz silver? That's supposed to be even better. It is made by an advanced method - Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: Re: CSBYU CS Test Hi there Ole Bob, 96% elemental, 4% ionic! I have been privy to test results which show ionic silver to be much more effective in the test tube than elemental. Perhaps it is a further indication that in order to be absorbed silver is ionised in the body. I'm not sure what you are getting at here, Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver???, but I should think the ASAP would fizz like crazy. A link to American Silver, the producers of ASAP used in these test. http://www.amsilver.com/news.htm I notice that it is stated that the test results done on this product are to be freely available! Also American Silver has filed a patent application for their process. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 30 June 2000 14:09 Subject: CSBYU CS Test Hi Ya'all; Its pot stirring time again I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was done by one of his graduate students, David Revelli. The material was as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about 10nm in size. They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction. Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver??? Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChemtrail update
Try carnival-con.com oops, I mean carnicom.com Nice pics of perfectly normal contrails being touted as the threat of the day and no distinction between obvious misinformation and possible reality so far. KDC At 02:01 PM 6/29/00 -0700, you wrote: Hi Pamela, carnicorn.com doesn't work for me. Any ideas why? Spelling correct? Trem At 03:25 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Marsha, take a visit to carnicorn.com Dear Marshall, The day before yesterday I was watching Unsolved Mysteries on Lifetime Channel and one segment was about a town in Washington getting some gelatinous goo dumped on it, making folks sick. Talk about weird! I didn`t see the segment when it first aired, so I don`t know how old it was. I wonder if the town has had anything happen since then? One of the citizens on the segment reported a lot of aircraft activity, and even black choppers. I wonder... Marsha PS, I printed out your post to show my sister, the ultimate disbeliever. Won`t even use CS... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver Ointment?
Why not just make some jello with CS. It dries on the skin too. KD'C At 10:33 PM 6/29/00 -0400, you wrote: To all list members: Has anyone ever made this ointment by Elixa and was successful with it's healing abilities? Does anyone recommend a better or easier way (moneywise) to make another type of ointment. I am asking this because I have a 6 year old who always has lots of boo boos to have soothed quickly! This is from the Elixa online catalog: 1) 16 oz mixing/storage jar, (4) 1/4 oz storage jars, (5) bags of polymer, (1) dropper vial of triethanolamine, (1) wooden stir stick. The kit contains enough ingredients to make 5 eight ounce batches of Colloidal Silver Ointment. To make CS Ointment, make 8 oz of Extra-strength Colloidal Silver by running it through 2 or 3 complete cycles with the device. The solution should be golden to dark brown in color. Using a coffee filter or cloth, strain the solution into the mixing jar and add 1 bag of polymer and stir well. Add 4 full droppers of triethanolamine and stir for 1-2 minutes. The mixture will thicken and turn into a smooth golden Colloidal Silver Ointment ready for use or storage. Thanks, Diane M. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS machines
In a message dated 6/30/00 8:10:39 AM EST, mdev...@eskimo.com writes: Subj: Re: CS machines Date: 6/30/00 8:10:39 AM EST From: mdev...@eskimo.com (M. G. Devour) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I wrote: The best reason for not using salt in making CS is that the particles produced that way are known to be smaller and are presumed to be safer and more bioavailable. Note that I fully *agree* that it's best to use distilled water. I just don't want to overstate the argyria issue. Fred replied: Yes, Mike, a little won't hurt but you missed the bigger point that silver chloride is a very weak source of silver ... weak medicine (salt water in this case) can be deceiving and thus indirectly harmful to those that are relying on the Cs to treat a serious problem! I was hoping to balance the argyria notion that Marshall raised. That was the point of my message. I would agree with your weak medicine concern -- except that we know many folks who did use salt-accelerated CS quite effectively long before the popularization of no-salt recipes. I have to believe, with as much silver as sputtered off the electrodes in that highly conductive water, ... sputtered, Mike? How does the LVDC CS process induce sputtering with or without the presence of salt? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBYU CS TestCharged particle of Ag v. silver ion.
Hi Ivan, Are we back to definitions of ionic? We need to establish a working definition of charged [somehow] particle of elemental silver, discriminated from dissolved silver: silver ions in the classical usage of ionic. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 12:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSBYU CS Test Hi there Ole Bob, 96% elemental, 4% ionic! I have been privy to test results which show ionic silver to be much more effective in the test tube than elemental. Perhaps it is a further indication that in order to be absorbed silver is ionised in the body. I'm not sure what you are getting at here, Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver???, but I should think the ASAP would fizz like crazy. A link to American Silver, the producers of ASAP used in these test. http://www.amsilver.com/news.htm I notice that it is stated that the test results done on this product are to be freely available! Also American Silver has filed a patent application for their process. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 30 June 2000 14:09 Subject: CSBYU CS Test Hi Ya'all; Its pot stirring time again I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was done by one of his graduate students, David Revelli. The material was as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about 10nm in size. They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction. Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental silver??? Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBYU CS TestCharged particle of Ag v. silver ion.
James, Ivan, et al, Correct me if I'm wrong (HA! Fat chance of that not happening!), but if you are speaking of particles of silver consisting of normal atoms of silver then there will be no net charge on these particles. The number of protons and electrons are equal and the charges cancel out. Ions are easy to define...they consist of atoms that have either lost or gained electrons and the charge is directly related to the difference between the number of protons and electrons. In the case of an ion of silver that charge is expressed as Ag[+] or a net charge of +1. Regards, George Martin On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:14:13 -0600, James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: =Hi Ivan, = =Are we back to definitions of ionic? = =We need to establish a working definition of charged [somehow] particle =of elemental silver, discriminated from dissolved silver: silver ions =in the classical usage of ionic. = = =James Osbourne Holmes =a...@trail.com =FTNWO = = =-Original Message- =From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] =Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 12:46 AM =To: silver-list@eskimo.com =Subject: Re: CSBYU CS Test = =Hi there Ole Bob, = =96% elemental, 4% ionic! =I have been privy to test results which show ionic silver to be much =more effective in the test tube than elemental. = =Perhaps it is a further indication that in order to be absorbed silver =is ionised in the body. = =I'm not sure what you are getting at here, Does that raise some =questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental =silver???, but I should think the ASAP would fizz like crazy. = =A link to American Silver, the producers of ASAP used in these test. =http://www.amsilver.com/news.htm = =I notice that it is stated that the test results done on this product =are to be freely available! = =Also American Silver has filed a patent application for their process. = =Ivan. = =- Original Message - =From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net =To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com =Sent: Friday, 30 June 2000 14:09 =Subject: CSBYU CS Test = = = Hi Ya'all; = = Its pot stirring time again = = I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks =ago = and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work =was = done by one of his graduate students, David Revelli. The material was = as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a = Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic = silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about = 10nm in size. = = They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction. = = Does that raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 = test for elemental silver??? = = Ole Bob = = = =-- =The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. = =To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: =silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com =with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. = =To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com =Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html =List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = =
Re: CSBYU CS Test
Hi Fred; All I know is what I put on the list. I have since asked Ron Leavitt several questions and hope to get a reply. He said that the ASAP is a true colloid !!! And that most of our stuff is not. I need an input from Stephen Quinto. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS machines
I wrote: I have to believe, with as much silver as sputtered off the electrodes in that highly conductive water, ... Roger queried: sputtered, Mike? How does the LVDC CS process induce sputtering with or without the presence of salt? Roger I am acquainted with sputtering in terms of vacuum based processes used in electronics and industry for coatings and creating layered structures with thin films. I understand you're doing ambient pressure sputtering at least for part of your process. My use of sputtering here, which may not be perfect, is to describe the process where incident electrons impart kinetic energy to the silver metal lattice, causing, or at least contributing to, the release of silver atoms into the sol. Can the electrolysis of a metal in water be accurately described as a sputtering process, in whole or in part? I don't know. I'm willing to be educated. grin Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSASAP
Re : ole Bob's post; Since ASAP(whatever that is) Is a true colloid and ours is not. Since ours works so good . Wouldn't that mean that we should stay as far away from ASAP as possible. Older Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSASAP
At 03:11 PM 6/30/00 -0500, you wrote: Re : ole Bob's post; Since ASAP(whatever that is) Is a true colloid and ours is not. Since ours works so good . Wouldn't that mean that we should stay as far away from ASAP as possible. Older Bob I would think you should do that As Soon As Possible + ASAP
CSMicroscope other lab equipment...
I have just stumbled across a site with the great name of EinsteinsGarage (sic) that auctions lab equipment. From their home page: Welcome to EinsteinsGarage.com ! This is where you can bid on over 12,000 brand-name lab, clinical and safety equipment, instruments and supplies... always from your favorite suppliers, because everything is from the inventory of Fisher Scientific! Still-in-the-box surplus, gently used or cosmetically challenged...all with a full 7-day money-back guarantee. Offerings change, so check in frequently! [end excerpt] For Bob Squires : I know you said you had a new microscope but here is one that new sold for $5389 and appears to have a reserve price near $500 if I am interpreting their icon correctly. It includes a camera mount... http://www.einsteinsgarage.com/Scripts/ListingInfo.asp?LotNo=15020777SiteCatNo=134508 Regards, George Martin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChemtrail update
Dear List, It would seem that CS not helping in any specified condition, from my experience would be because of insufficient CS. I started about 3 years ago taking a quart a day for three days and then tapered off to 8-16 oz. If my system tells me of something trying to get me I will up it for some days. The only side effect experienced so far has been the regulation of thrist. If I am saturated with CS my system will have a peculiar tasting thirst which is quenched by normal well water. Remember this CS is our first line of defense against CBR warfare. h...@mcmo.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver Ointment?
Dear List, I would recommend mixing with olive oil and bees wax. Much cheaper but of necessity effective. h...@mcmo.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[Fwd: [alternacare] Insect and other venoms]
---BeginMessage--- Dear Friends; I learned today from a friend to whom I had sold a zapper almost a year ago that he uses it on insect stings and bites . It seems that he is allergic to these bites and stings and ,of course ,he keeps bees. Where ever he gets stung he simply puts a probe on each side (sandwich). It is gone right now. It seems to neutralize the venom. He recently was working in the attic of the barn and got stung by a red wasp. This a tough one and is a painful for anyone . He immediately put the zapper on it . The pain was gone instantly. What a wonderful tip for a child With Gods Love Bob To Post a message, send it to: alternac...@egroups.com To Subscribe, send a blank message to: alternacare-subscr...@egroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: alternacare-unsubscr...@egroups.com Archives on the web, http://www.egroups.com/group/alternacare/ ---End Message---
CSfibromyalgia
Dear CS Group, I mostly lurk these days, but I seem to remember some discussion a while back about CS and its effect (or no efect) on fibromyalgia...and I probably misspelled that. I have two friends who are suffering horrible and their doctors say there is NOTHING that can be done? Thanks in advance for ANY asistance and direction, especially with CS either on or off this list. Paula paul...@juno.com YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS machinessputtering
Hi Mike, I think the term has different meanings in different fields. Uncertain, but probably in electrolysis, it is allowing the arc to leap a short distance into the water, or the electrode just touching the surface of the water. In Marx's HV process, one electrode plate is mostly submerged and is connected to one side of the 115 V line. On either side of it are two arc bars' dangling electrodes connected to the other side of the line. The electrodes are adjusted to just above the water. When the current is applied, two cones of water rise up the arc bars about 1/4 -3/8 inch. As the process heats up some water is evaporated and condenses on the lid and sides of the vessel, lowering the water level. As the sol becomes more conductive, the cone lowers. It may lower enough for the arc to sputter between its tip and the water surface for the remaining portion of the run. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [SMTP:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 11:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS machines I wrote: I have to believe, with as much silver as sputtered off the electrodes in that highly conductive water, ... Roger queried: sputtered, Mike? How does the LVDC CS process induce sputtering with or without the presence of salt? Roger I am acquainted with sputtering in terms of vacuum based processes used in electronics and industry for coatings and creating layered structures with thin films. I understand you're doing ambient pressure sputtering at least for part of your process. My use of sputtering here, which may not be perfect, is to describe the process where incident electrons impart kinetic energy to the silver metal lattice, causing, or at least contributing to, the release of silver atoms into the sol. Can the electrolysis of a metal in water be accurately described as a sputtering process, in whole or in part? I don't know. I'm willing to be educated. grin Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSASAPre: our CS
Hi Folks, What is ours. There must be at least 6 different designs being used by the people on this list, and at least two main types of silver. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Harvey Flatbush [SMTP:ha...@iomet.com] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSASAP File: ATT0.html At 03:11 PM 6/30/00 -0500, you wrote: Re : ole Bob's post; Since ASAP(whatever that is) Is a true colloid and ours is not. Since ours works so good . Wouldn't that mean that we should stay as far away from ASAP as possible. Older Bob I would think you should do that As Soon As Possible + ASAP -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSColloidal Silver Ointment?
Hi Herb, Can you recommend proportions? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Stephen Hessler [SMTP:h...@mcmo.net] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 3:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSColloidal Silver Ointment? Dear List, I would recommend mixing with olive oil and bees wax. Much cheaper but of necessity effective. h...@mcmo.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIntroduction
There has been a lot of discussion on lyme on both the CS and Rife chat lists. Check both archives and you will find lots of info. Also you might, if you haven't already, joined Mr. Tracy's list and check the archives. Lots more info. Alternative is so much better. Frances Katie Jay wrote: Hi. I have just begun studying CS and am grateful to find this list. I was recently diagnosed with Lyme Disease, candida, CFIDS, liver toxicity, mycoplasma, hypothyroidism, depression and more. I also have Type II diabetes. My alternative doctor wants me to take 400mg of doxycycline per day for 30 days to battle the lyme, but I'm worried about my toxic liver. I want to take CS and collostrum, and do parasite and liver cleanses, and also use a zapper (Is the zapper overkill if I'm already using CS?). If I don't take the antibiotics, am I putting myself at risk for life-long lyme? I don't even know how long I've had it. If the lyme is pretty new, can the CS knock it out the way antibiotics supposedly do? Thanks for any help. I hope I'm on topic, I am brand new to the list. Katie kj...@erols.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPDF files
Hi Ya'all; Will someone please tell me what program I need and how to open a PDF file Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPDF files
Bob, You need Acrobat Reader from Adobe. You can download the reader free at: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readermain.html Chuck It's never too late to have a happy childhood ! On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:07:32 -0500, Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote: Hi Ya'all; Will someone please tell me what program I need and how to open a PDF file Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlyme disease
In a message dated 6/29/00 3:37:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mo...@inow.com writes: Subj: CSlyme disease Date: 6/29/00 3:37:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: mo...@inow.com (Mary) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com What causes lyme disease? Is it caused by a vax? I know the story about the ticks but I'm just wondering if there is another story we don't hear about. I think with many things we only hear part of the story. It certainly would not suprise me to find out that there may be additional modes of transmission besides tick. Lyme is caused by a bacteria called Borrelia Burgdorferi...spelling may be off. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIntroduction
Hi. I have just begun studying CS and am grateful to find this list. I was recently diagnosed with Lyme Disease, candida, CFIDS, liver toxicity, mycoplasma, hypothyroidism, depression and more. I also have Type II diabetes. My alternative doctor wants me to take 400mg of doxycycline per day for 30 days to battle the lyme, but I'm worried about my toxic liver. I want to take CS and collostrum, and do parasite and liver cleanses, and also use a zapper (Is the zapper overkill if I'm already using CS?). If I don't take the antibiotics, am I putting myself at risk for life-long lyme? I don't even know how long I've had it. If the lyme is pretty new, can the CS knock it out the way antibiotics supposedly do? Thanks for any help. I hope I'm on topic, I am brand new to the list. Katie kj...@erols.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChemtrail update
open your eyes Try carnival-con.com oops, I mean carnicom.com Nice pics of perfectly normal contrails being touted as the threat of the day and no distinction between obvious misinformation and possible reality so far. KDC At 02:01 PM 6/29/00 -0700, you wrote: Hi Pamela, carnicorn.com doesn't work for me. Any ideas why? Spelling correct? Trem At 03:25 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Marsha, take a visit to carnicorn.com Dear Marshall, The day before yesterday I was watching Unsolved Mysteries on Lifetime Channel and one segment was about a town in Washington getting some gelatinous goo dumped on it, making folks sick. Talk about weird! I didn`t see the segment when it first aired, so I don`t know how old it was. I wonder if the town has had anything happen since then? One of the citizens on the segment reported a lot of aircraft activity, and even black choppers. I wonder... Marsha PS, I printed out your post to show my sister, the ultimate disbeliever. Won`t even use CS... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBYU CS Test
Is a true colloid of silver ionic, thus meaning a dissolved form of silver? PG Hi Fred; All I know is what I put on the list. I have since asked Ron Leavitt several questions and hope to get a reply. He said that the ASAP is a true colloid !!! And that most of our stuff is not. I need an input from Stephen Quinto. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver Ointment?
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:10:11 -0400, Ode Wan Coyote coy...@alltel.net wrote: Why not just make some jello with CS. It dries on the skin too. Hmm, why not? I'll try it. (I hope it will store for months and stay jello at room temperature.) -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
