CSCScancer cure
Marshall Christianbrothers.com. I got web pages could not be displayed. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCScancer cure
At 02:43 AM 7/25/00 -0400, you wrote: Christianbrothers.com Go to: http://www.christianbrothers.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
I wrote I don't doubt that there *will* be an upper limit found for safe consumption of silver products -- perhaps not for the low concentration, small particle CS that most of us are making, but perhaps for the high ppm stuff of some of the other vendors..., Roger replied: Mike: I would like to point out that based on my colloidal silver retention/elimination study there may indeed be NO upper limit to save consumption of colloidal silver. Which is why I finished the above paragraph with the following: ...perhaps for the high ppm stuff of some of the other vendors, or merely the well known dangers of silver compounds. Let us hope that your work points the way to the final result, at least for the easily made LVDC or HVAC varieties of CS. When someone applies the same protocol to the differently made, higher potency products like WaterOz, the mild silver protien variants, or the lousy chemically precipitated bulk products sold in some health food stores, then we'll establish more of the boundaries. I suppose I should have emphasized that I was talking about *all* silver products, even including the known hazardous silver compounds. This (albeit preliminary) conclusion is based on doing a silver balance on myself AFTER ingesting 2.3 mg CS/day for several months. What I found was that I was excreting silver just as fast as I was ingesting it, leaving my tissues (hopefully) saturated in colloidal silver so that presumably the CS would be present in any part of my body ready to scavenge any hostile bugs that had the misfortune to pass their way. Yes, it's excellent work that needed to be done. Thank you. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIons, chelation and Argyria
Marshall writes, over three posts : Argyria is caused by the same mechanism that is used when developing photographs. It is the same thing. If you start with a salt of silver, and expose it to light, some of it will reduce to silver metal. Then if you have a developer (caffine is a good developer) in an alkaline solution (blood is normally alkaline), additional silver will plate out from the compound onto the metallic particles, making them grow. That is the photographic process, and that is how one gets argyria. Now, the process requires silver salts. There are no substitutes. Colloidal silver contains no silver salts. Basically silver salts are what are in unexposed film. Silver colloid is what is in a developed photograph. If you put a developed photo into the sun what does it do. It fades, it doesn't turn darker. That is because a developed photo has no silver salts to add to the silver particles since it is already nothing but reduced silver particles. Thus colloidal silver cannot cause argyria. Theoretically I guess one could take CS with sufficient ppm and in sufficient quantity to cause aggregation, but one would likely become sick from too much water first, as the amounts would be truely phenominal... ...If I recall the silveroz product claims that it is ionic silver, not colloidal silver. I questioned a year or so ago whether or not silver oz could lead to argyria on this very list, but at that time no one reported such problems. I do not believe the silver oz product is the same as what we consider colloidal silver... ...Does anyone know if chelation acts on CS in your blood? I believe that chelation only works on single atoms, but could be wrong. If it worked on clusters then it should get rid of argyria, right...? Marshall and all. As far as I can ascertain, it is impossible to absorb metals (minerals) in anything other than ionic form, ie single atomic ions, as opposed to aggrigates, colloids or groups of metals. Colloids and metallic clusters are ionised by the gastric juices so that they may be complexed by metal transporters across the intestinal wall. If this is true, it would tend to make most of the statements above redundant. In the development of Argyria, I believe it is the total silver load which is important not the source, as the silver, once absorbed, is likely to be indistinguishable from one source to another. If silver is found in surface tissue in large amounts, as a result of the overwhelming of the natural chelating mechanisms, then it will be complexed by chlorine, sulphur or selenium etc. and may be photo-reduced to form dark pigments. I believe it is wrong to state that silver colloids cannot cause Argyria, other than to say that the total silver load required is unlikely to be achieved in the normal course of events. There is no reason to think that silver will not be chelated as any other monovalent ion. Different chelating agents have preferences for different valencies (divalent, trivalent etc.), and it would be wise, in my opinion, to forego silver intake during the course of the therapy so that the therapy can be directed towards to removing toxic minerals, unhindered. Here is a representative abstract regarding mineral absorption : The regulation of mineral absorption in the gastrointestinal tract. Proc Nutr Soc 1999 Feb;58(1):147-53 (ISSN: 0029-6651) Powell JJ; Jugdaohsingh R; Thompson RP [Find other articles with these Authors] Gastrointestinal Laboratory, Rayne Institute, St Thomas' Hospital, London, UK. jonpo...@ucdavis.edu. The absorption of metal ions in the mammalian single-stomached gut is fortunately highly selective, and both luminal and tissue regulation occur. Initially, assimilation of metal ions in an available form is facilitated by the intestinal secretions, chiefly soluble mucus (mucin) that retards hydrolysis of ions such as Cu, Fe and Zn. Metal ions then bind and traverse the mucosally-adherent mucus layer with an efficiency M+ M2+ M3+. At the mucosa Fe3+ is probably uniquely reduced to Fe2+, and all divalent cations (including Fe2+) are transported by a membrane protein (such as divalent cation transporter 1) into the cell. This minimizes absorption of toxic trivalent metals (e.g. Al3+). Intracellular metal-binding molecules (such as mobilferrin) may be present at the intracellular side of the apical membrane, anchored to a transmembrane protein such as an integrin complex. This mobilferrin would receive the metal ion from divalent cation transporter 1 and, with part of the integrin molecule, transport the metal to the cytosol for safe sequestration in a larger complex such as ferritin or 'paraferritin'. beta 2-Microglobulin and HFE (previously termed human leucocyte antigen H) may be involved in stabilizing metal mobilferrin-integrin to form this latter complex. Finally, a systemic metal-binding protein such as transferrin may enter the antiluminal (basolateral) side of the cell for binding of the
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
In a message dated 7/24/00 11:00:32 PM EST, mdev...@eskimo.com writes: I don't doubt that there *will* be an upper limit found for safe consumption of silver products -- perhaps not for the low concentration, small particle CS that most of us are making, but perhaps for the high ppm stuff of some of the other vendors..., Mike: I would like to point out that based on my colloidal silver retention/elimination study there may indeed be NO upper limit to save consumption of colloidal silver. This (albeit preliminary) conclusion is based on doing a silver balance on myself AFTER ingesting 2.3 mg CS/day for several months. What I found was that I was excreting silver just as fast as I was ingesting it, leaving my tissues (hopefully) saturated in colloidal silver so that presumably the CS would be present in any part of my body ready to scavenge any hostile bugs that had the misfortune to pass their way. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
Hi Mike, A simple ...no, I am not! has not been forthcoming. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [SMTP:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue Hi Bob, friends, Went looking back over my own archives to find Michael or Mary. Way back. Sure did, doing the same thing they or he/she are doing now. Take it for what its worth. :-) Really don't think you will get any relevant information from them. Playing list-owner here, I need to call a minor technical foul: Something like an accusation of agent provacateur status ought to be directed to me rather than to the list. I would like to consult *privately* with Bob Lee and examine his evidence a bit. Please, Bob? I've also had contact with mary who shares that account with a person named Michael -- no mystery there, it turns out. She's in a tough spot since we don't know enough details of the cases she cites or of her practice and expertise to be able to evaluate them, and her, for ourselves. Until the time comes that we do, I counsel patience with one another. Okay? I don't doubt that there *will* be an upper limit found for safe consumption of silver products -- perhaps not for the low concentration, small particle CS that most of us are making, but perhaps for the high ppm stuff of some of the other vendors, or merely the well known dangers of silver compounds. Since our results will tend to be judged together with these others in the court of public opinion, it behooves us to document the cases and the distinctions between them. We ought to examine Mary's reports closely. If she's a provocateur it will come out, I'm sure. If not, I'd like to know we made sure we knew what was happening. We need more information, which we will not get by adversarial means. I respectfully request her cooperation, and all of yours. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTumor - Desperately seeking an answer
Dear Brenda; Sorry for the delay I must have missed your post the first time . I have had some of my customers use the Zapper with success for tumors. With the first few days use they begin to shrink and they slowly wither away to nothing . The problem here would be getting to it . Could I make you a probe that can reach it ? I will be glad to try anything that can help and I think the Zapper will help. Let me know Bob n8...@juno.com wrote: All, I wanted to see if anyone on the list has heard of anyone using Dr. Clark's protocol for large uterine Fibroid Tumors. I have the new book The Cure for Advanced Cancers (actually I have all of them and the Zapper)...but it seems Dr. Clark is mostly referring to cancerous tumors. I have a fibroid tumor larger than a grapefruit...and seems to be growing every month. The protocols mentioned...the 21 day Cancer Curing Program and the Tumor Shrinking Diet. Do they both have to be done or just the Tumor Shrinking Diet...since mine are not cancerous? Is it relatively safe to take the high dosage of B2 for such a large tumor? Does anyone know personally of anyone who has shrunk or totally gotten rid of a Fibroid Tumor this large? Any help would be appreciated... Thanks again, Brenda YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS OT Horses and other nice things!
I've got his papers at home. I'll look at them tonight. His registered name is Exxecutioner, sired by Exxpectation. I'm so into these bloodlines (smile) I just like a kind, level-headed horse. I prefer people the same way..but you never know what you'll get, huh? -Original Message- From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 08:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS OT Horses and other nice things! I have a 4yo Arabian gelding, chestnut with 2 white socks. A real looker, with excellent bloodlines, but harder for me to work with since contracting MS. My neurologist told me I may have to reconsider riding after my dx, but this CS has given me incredible hope. My horse's name is Q-tip.He's bred for endurance, so that's how we ride. Now, as soon as I get my endurance back Believe me, riding is the next best thing for MS, second only to CS! (IMHO) My gelding was named Markuba, and he was a blood-bay GGson of Witez II, one of the horses rescued with the Lippizaners by the Americans just after WWII. Disney`s Miracle of the White Stallions flick tells of that, but neglects the Arabians and several other breeds also rescued. Email me with Q-Tip`s bloodlines, willya?? I`m fascinated... Do you know of Khemosabi?? He`s MINE... Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCScancer cure
That site requires that www. in front, ie. www.christianbrothers.com Marshall wong...@aol.com wrote: Marshall Christianbrothers.com. I got web pages could not be displayed. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Mike: I would like to point out that based on my colloidal silver retention/elimination study there may indeed be NO upper limit to save consumption of colloidal silver. This (albeit preliminary) conclusion is based on doing a silver balance on myself AFTER ingesting 2.3 mg CS/day for several months. What I found was that I was excreting silver just as fast as I was ingesting it, leaving my tissues (hopefully) saturated in colloidal silver so that presumably the CS would be present in any part of my body ready to scavenge any hostile bugs that had the misfortune to pass their way. Roger I may have missed this. What routes of elimination did the silver take, and what was the ratios? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIons, chelation and Argyria
Katie Jay wrote: Hi Ivan, I have lyme disease and also need to get my mercury fillings removed. I was considering oral chelation during the mercury removal. Would taking CS hinder the work of the oral chelation. What if I took vitamin C and clorella instead of oral chelation during the time i am detoxifying from the mercury. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Katie I am taking the ageless ( http://www.yournutrition.com/oral.html ) oral chelation right now. They have you take the chelation before bed, and in the morning, you take a mineral pill to replace the essential minerals the chelation removed. So what I am doing it taking my CS when I take the mineral pill in the morning now. Most of the CS will likely be gone by bedtime. I can say that the CS is not stopping the chelation. I fell like cr*p in the morning until I can get 24 oz or so of filtered water through my system to wash out the heavy metals that have been released. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck's protocol
Alvin Rose wrote: Hi Katie The clark zapper has nothing to do with blood electrification as the potential is to low to get conduction..It is a parasite killer which has a low level 30 kc output and does not induce a current flow in the blood (50 to 100 microamps) The Beck protocol required the blood purifier as well as the magnetic pulser and colloidal silver as well as oxygenized water. We have a difference of opinion here. I believe they both work and preform essentially the same. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSapricot kernals
Do you have a phone number on these people? Have a friend that was just operated on for a brain tumor and it was cancerous. He wants me to get him some ASAP, and I don't want to wait for the mail service to deliver a check. Thanks, Marshall Dave Perkins wrote: Here's one place that sells them: http://www.zianet.com/kgriffi/ If you would like a brochure with more details, send $5.00 to: TLC P.O. Drawer 548 Ruidoso, NM 88345 To order apricot pits, send $12.50 per pound, plus $2.00 SH to the same address. I ordered from them and got my pits. Dave Perkins enjoy being email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com web site: www.betterwayhealth.com - Original Message - From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: Re: CSapricot kernals Where do you get the apricot kernels? Do you buy fresh apricots? katie - Original Message - From: Dave Perkins dperk...@betterwayhealth.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: Re: CSapricot kernals Wrapping one in a paper table napkin (to contain the shell fragments) placing on the counter top and tapping with a hammer works well for me. Dave Perkins enjoy being email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com web site: www.betterwayhealth.com - Original Message - From: hamilton williams hamilto...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: samma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:01 AM Subject: CSapricot kernals I have a very basic question about apricot kernels - how do you get them out of the seed shell? It's inside the hard shell, right? I'd like to chew on them preventatively and it seems like it would be simple, etc., but . Thanks much, Samantha I hold the kernal upright on a concrete floor or sidewalk and hit it with a hammer. You can lay it flat ways against the floor also , but this tends to disintegrate the nut. hamilton- hamilton williams hamilto...@webtv.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS OT Horses and other nice things!
- Original Message - From: Garrett, Susan L garret...@everett.navy.mil To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:20 AM Subject: RE: CS OT Horses and other nice things! I've got his papers at home. I'll look at them tonight. His registered name is Exxecutioner, sired by Exxpectation. I'm so into these bloodlines (smile) I just like a kind, level-headed horse. I prefer people the same way..but you never know what you'll get, huh? Dear Susan, Can you send me a private email? I tried to send one but it bounced back. Got lots of stuff to say, but I`m sure the silver listers don`t care about it... Thanks, Marsha liah...@pacbell.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
In a message dated 7/25/00 10:29:30 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: I may have missed this. What routes of elimination did the silver take, and what was the ratios? Marshall Marshall: Initially, urine accounted for nearly all of the excreted silver (I also measures silver in fece, perspiration, nails and hair). However as time went on, fece accounted for a greater proportion of eliminated silver. I don't know why. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSapricot kernals
Didn't Allison's Apothecary say he had them too? Marshall Dudley wrote: Do you have a phone number on these people? Have a friend that was just operated on for a brain tumor and it was cancerous. He wants me to get him some ASAP, and I don't want to wait for the mail service to deliver a check. Thanks, Marshall Dave Perkins wrote: Here's one place that sells them: http://www.zianet.com/kgriffi/ If you would like a brochure with more details, send $5.00 to: TLC P.O. Drawer 548 Ruidoso, NM 88345 To order apricot pits, send $12.50 per pound, plus $2.00 SH to the same address. I ordered from them and got my pits. Dave Perkins enjoy being email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com web site: www.betterwayhealth.com - Original Message - From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: Re: CSapricot kernals Where do you get the apricot kernels? Do you buy fresh apricots? katie - Original Message - From: Dave Perkins dperk...@betterwayhealth.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: Re: CSapricot kernals Wrapping one in a paper table napkin (to contain the shell fragments) placing on the counter top and tapping with a hammer works well for me. Dave Perkins enjoy being email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com web site: www.betterwayhealth.com - Original Message - From: hamilton williams hamilto...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: samma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:01 AM Subject: CSapricot kernals I have a very basic question about apricot kernels - how do you get them out of the seed shell? It's inside the hard shell, right? I'd like to chew on them preventatively and it seems like it would be simple, etc., but . Thanks much, Samantha I hold the kernal upright on a concrete floor or sidewalk and hit it with a hammer. You can lay it flat ways against the floor also , but this tends to disintegrate the nut. hamilton- hamilton williams hamilto...@webtv.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
For your studies, were you able to determine the serum half-life? Initially vs. as time went on: Are we talking days, weeks, months or years here? Thanks, Marshall rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/25/00 10:29:30 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: I may have missed this. What routes of elimination did the silver take, and what was the ratios? Marshall Marshall: Initially, urine accounted for nearly all of the excreted silver (I also measures silver in fece, perspiration, nails and hair). However as time went on, fece accounted for a greater proportion of eliminated silver. I don't know why. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSapricot kernals
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CSapricot kernals *E SHAN TANG* Chinese herbs in Boston have them. Apricot kernels are used in Chinese herbal formulations. They presumably are not organic (I never asked) but you can get them right away with a credit card. For accuracy I would recommend getting their fax number and FAXING the order. They were charging $8.00/lb last I spoke with them. PHONE 617 787 3600 Do you have a phone number on these people? Have a friend that was just operated on for a brain tumor and it was cancerous. He wants me to get him some ASAP, and I don't want to wait for the mail service to deliver a check. Thanks, Marshall Dave Perkins wrote: Here's one place that sells them: http://www.zianet.com/kgriffi/ If you would like a brochure with more details, send $5.00 to: TLC P.O. Drawer 548 Ruidoso, NM 88345 To order apricot pits, send $12.50 per pound, plus $2.00 SH to the same address. I ordered from them and got my pits. Dave Perkins enjoy being email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com web site: www.betterwayhealth.com - Original Message - From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: Re: CSapricot kernals Where do you get the apricot kernels? Do you buy fresh apricots? katie - Original Message - From: Dave Perkins dperk...@betterwayhealth.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: Re: CSapricot kernals Wrapping one in a paper table napkin (to contain the shell fragments) placing on the counter top and tapping with a hammer works well for me. Dave Perkins enjoy being email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com web site: www.betterwayhealth.com - Original Message - From: hamilton williams hamilto...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: samma...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:01 AM Subject: CSapricot kernals I have a very basic question about apricot kernels - how do you get them out of the seed shell? It's inside the hard shell, right? I'd like to chew on them preventatively and it seems like it would be simple, etc., but . Thanks much, Samantha I hold the kernal upright on a concrete floor or sidewalk and hit it with a hammer. You can lay it flat ways against the floor also , but this tends to disintegrate the nut. hamilton- hamilton williams hamilto...@webtv.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Brain Tuner
Terry and list, Can you all recommend the most cost effective way to get a blood electrifier and magnetic pulser? What is a reputable company and what should I expect to pay. I don't want to make them myself. Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: Terry Wayne tw...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:30 AM Subject: CSOT - Brain Tuner To those interested: The full run-down on the Brain Tuner (Lousy name, I know, my wife says it sounds like, Brain Tumor) can be found by listening to Bob Beck speaking at this website: www.livingfromvision.com/realaud/bt6.html The info, however, is astounding. I have currently just started using this apparatus, plus the Blood Electrifier the Magnetic Pulser (my wife thinks I will start glowing in the dark; I tell her I will have an electrifying personality). I will report later when I know something. Terry Wayne __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
In a message dated 7/25/00 11:54:18 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue Date: 7/25/00 11:54:18 AM EST From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com For your studies, were you able to determine the serum half-life? Initially vs. as time went on: Are we talking days, weeks, months or years here? Thanks, Marshall Marshall: 20 days. The last data point was 96 days from the time I stopped taking CS. At that point 3/4 of the silver eliminated was in fece. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/25/00 11:54:18 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue Date: 7/25/00 11:54:18 AM EST From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com For your studies, were you able to determine the serum half-life? Marshall: 20 days. You are kidding! I thought CS had a half life of about 8 to 12 hours, and take it twice a day to maintain a reasonable serum level. Maybe it is binding in tissues delaying it's elimination. It seems that I only have to go a day without CS to start being vulnerable to things. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck's protocol
Hi all, I made the mistake of reading my emails (and deleting them) from most recent to least recent and did not get the full benefit of the reactions to Marshall's post. In a nut shell, is there a lot of disagreement about M.'s observation regarding the zapper vs. Beck's device (see below)? I get overwhelmed with the technical discussions here sometimes and miss the gist of things. Although I greatly appreciate the technical knowledge available through this list!! You all are awesome. With deep gratitude, Katie Not according to Beck. But I disagree. I feel they are essentually equivalent, in fact I personally prefer the zapper. My sister beat lyme using the zapper for the electrification. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Brain Tuner
Dear KatieJay; Go to www.action -electronics.com Good stuff reasonable price.. Bob Katie Jay wrote: Terry and list, Can you all recommend the most cost effective way to get a blood electrifier and magnetic pulser? What is a reputable company and what should I expect to pay. I don't want to make them myself. Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: Terry Wayne tw...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:30 AM Subject: CSOT - Brain Tuner To those interested: The full run-down on the Brain Tuner (Lousy name, I know, my wife says it sounds like, Brain Tumor) can be found by listening to Bob Beck speaking at this website: www.livingfromvision.com/realaud/bt6.html The info, however, is astounding. I have currently just started using this apparatus, plus the Blood Electrifier the Magnetic Pulser (my wife thinks I will start glowing in the dark; I tell her I will have an electrifying personality). I will report later when I know something. Terry Wayne __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
In a message dated 7/25/00 12:44:27 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: You are kidding! I thought CS had a half life of about 8 to 12 hours, and take it twice a day to maintain a reasonable serum level. Maybe it is binding in tissues delaying it's elimination. It seems that I only have to go a day without CS to start being vulnerable to things. Marshall Marshall: I know little about biological sciences so I'm the last person to ask how to interpret my results. That being said, I thought it was equally odd that the silver in fece would constitute the major component of silver elimination after a couple of months. I would have thought that colon tissue (where else would silver in fece come from?) would have been the first area of the body to give up what little silver it had and that the urine would continue to remove the bulk of the silver (through normal elimination channels) until there was practically none left. So I'm at a loss to explain my results. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIons, chelation and Argyria
Hi Ivan, I have lyme disease and also need to get my mercury fillings removed. I was considering oral chelation during the mercury removal. Would taking CS hinder the work of the oral chelation. What if I took vitamin C and clorella instead of oral chelation during the time i am detoxifying from the mercury. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Katie - Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:48 AM Subject: CSIons, chelation and Argyria Marshall writes, over three posts : Argyria is caused by the same mechanism that is used when developing photographs. It is the same thing. If you start with a salt of silver, and expose it to light, some of it will reduce to silver metal. Then if you have a developer (caffine is a good developer) in an alkaline solution (blood is normally alkaline), additional silver will plate out from the compound onto the metallic particles, making them grow. That is the photographic process, and that is how one gets argyria. Now, the process requires silver salts. There are no substitutes. Colloidal silver contains no silver salts. Basically silver salts are what are in unexposed film. Silver colloid is what is in a developed photograph. If you put a developed photo into the sun what does it do. It fades, it doesn't turn darker. That is because a developed photo has no silver salts to add to the silver particles since it is already nothing but reduced silver particles. Thus colloidal silver cannot cause argyria. Theoretically I guess one could take CS with sufficient ppm and in sufficient quantity to cause aggregation, but one would likely become sick from too much water first, as the amounts would be truely phenominal... ...If I recall the silveroz product claims that it is ionic silver, not colloidal silver. I questioned a year or so ago whether or not silver oz could lead to argyria on this very list, but at that time no one reported such problems. I do not believe the silver oz product is the same as what we consider colloidal silver... ...Does anyone know if chelation acts on CS in your blood? I believe that chelation only works on single atoms, but could be wrong. If it worked on clusters then it should get rid of argyria, right...? Marshall and all. As far as I can ascertain, it is impossible to absorb metals (minerals) in anything other than ionic form, ie single atomic ions, as opposed to aggrigates, colloids or groups of metals. Colloids and metallic clusters are ionised by the gastric juices so that they may be complexed by metal transporters across the intestinal wall. If this is true, it would tend to make most of the statements above redundant. In the development of Argyria, I believe it is the total silver load which is important not the source, as the silver, once absorbed, is likely to be indistinguishable from one source to another. If silver is found in surface tissue in large amounts, as a result of the overwhelming of the natural chelating mechanisms, then it will be complexed by chlorine, sulphur or selenium etc. and may be photo-reduced to form dark pigments. I believe it is wrong to state that silver colloids cannot cause Argyria, other than to say that the total silver load required is unlikely to be achieved in the normal course of events. There is no reason to think that silver will not be chelated as any other monovalent ion. Different chelating agents have preferences for different valencies (divalent, trivalent etc.), and it would be wise, in my opinion, to forego silver intake during the course of the therapy so that the therapy can be directed towards to removing toxic minerals, unhindered. Here is a representative abstract regarding mineral absorption : The regulation of mineral absorption in the gastrointestinal tract. Proc Nutr Soc 1999 Feb;58(1):147-53 (ISSN: 0029-6651) Powell JJ; Jugdaohsingh R; Thompson RP [Find other articles with these Authors] Gastrointestinal Laboratory, Rayne Institute, St Thomas' Hospital, London, UK. jonpo...@ucdavis.edu. The absorption of metal ions in the mammalian single-stomached gut is fortunately highly selective, and both luminal and tissue regulation occur. Initially, assimilation of metal ions in an available form is facilitated by the intestinal secretions, chiefly soluble mucus (mucin) that retards hydrolysis of ions such as Cu, Fe and Zn. Metal ions then bind and traverse the mucosally-adherent mucus layer with an efficiency M+ M2+ M3+. At the mucosa Fe3+ is probably uniquely reduced to Fe2+, and all divalent cations (including Fe2+) are transported by a membrane protein (such as divalent cation transporter 1) into the cell. This minimizes absorption of toxic trivalent metals (e.g. Al3+). Intracellular metal-binding molecules (such as mobilferrin) may be present at the intracellular side of the
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Marshall: I know little about biological sciences so I'm the last person to ask how to interpret my results. That being said, I thought it was equally odd that the silver in fece would constitute the major component of silver elimination after a couple of months. I would have thought that colon tissue (where else would silver in fece come from?) would have been the first area of the body to give up what little silver it had and that the urine would continue to remove the bulk of the silver (through normal elimination channels) until there was practically none left. So I'm at a loss to explain my results. Roger I think the key here is the liver. It dumps into the colon. Here is my guess. CS contains a broad range of sizes from monoatomic, to clusters of 100 or more atoms. The atomic (and maybe small clusters) are quickly removed by the kidneys, and the larger clusters are removed much more slowly by the liver. Or maybe vice versa. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPLEASE PLEASE
Hi Ya'all; When you reply to a message PLEASE PLEASE high light and delete all or some of the message that you are responding to. For example Daniel Holly's last post requires 3 pages and only the top 1/2 of page one is of value. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsota instruments
Hope this is posted to the correct list!! We bought a silver pulser unit from Sota just a few days before the gov't hammered them. The return address for the instrument is Sota Instruments Inc., PO Box 866, Point Roberts, WA 98281-0866. I doubt that contact can be made thru this but maybe. Sharing Health From the Heart Inc. return address is PO Box 1817, Oroville, WA 98844. Thought some of you might be interested. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
Roger , this proves it you're weird Bob rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/25/00 12:44:27 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: You are kidding! I thought CS had a half life of about 8 to 12 hours, and take it twice a day to maintain a reasonable serum level. Maybe it is binding in tissues delaying it's elimination. It seems that I only have to go a day without CS to start being vulnerable to things. Marshall Marshall: I know little about biological sciences so I'm the last person to ask how to interpret my results. That being said, I thought it was equally odd that the silver in fece would constitute the major component of silver elimination after a couple of months. I would have thought that colon tissue (where else would silver in fece come from?) would have been the first area of the body to give up what little silver it had and that the urine would continue to remove the bulk of the silver (through normal elimination channels) until there was practically none left. So I'm at a loss to explain my results. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPLEASE PLEASE
I'm real sorry about that. I rarely post here and got carried away with all the excitement. - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 2:57 PM Subject: CSPLEASE PLEASE Hi Ya'all; When you reply to a message PLEASE PLEASE high light and delete all or some of the message that you are responding to. For example Daniel Holly's last post requires 3 pages and only the top 1/2 of page one is of value. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIons, chelation and Argyria
Thanks, Marshall! Katie - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:25 AM Subject: Re: CSIons, chelation and Argyria Katie Jay wrote: Hi Ivan, I have lyme disease and also need to get my mercury fillings removed. I was considering oral chelation during the mercury removal. Would taking CS hinder the work of the oral chelation. What if I took vitamin C and clorella instead of oral chelation during the time i am detoxifying from the mercury. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Katie I am taking the ageless ( http://www.yournutrition.com/oral.html ) oral chelation right now. They have you take the chelation before bed, and in the morning, you take a mineral pill to replace the essential minerals the chelation removed. So what I am doing it taking my CS when I take the mineral pill in the morning now. Most of the CS will likely be gone by bedtime. I can say that the CS is not stopping the chelation. I fell like cr*p in the morning until I can get 24 oz or so of filtered water through my system to wash out the heavy metals that have been released. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
In a message dated 7/25/00 3:20:59 PM EST, rj...@dialnet.net writes: Roger , this proves it you're weird Bob rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/25/00 12:44:27 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: You are kidding! I thought CS had a half life of about 8 to 12 hours, and take it twice a day to maintain a reasonable serum level. Maybe it is binding in tissues delaying it's elimination. It seems that I only have to go a day without CS to start being vulnerable to things. Marshall Marshall: I know little about biological sciences so I'm the last person to ask how to interpret my results. That being said, I thought it was equally odd that the silver in fece would constitute the major component of silver elimination after a couple of months. I would have thought that colon tissue (where else would silver in fece come from?) would have been the first area of the body to give up what little silver it had and that the urine would continue to remove the bulk of the silver (through normal elimination channels) until there was practically none left. So I'm at a loss to explain my results. Roger Bob: Fred says I make weird CS. You say I have a weird physiology. All I have to say is, anyone who agrees with my wife can't be all bad. Rog -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
Nah! I before E except after C. Now, that's WEIRD! Chuck It's not that I don't believe in the system--I don't believe that there IS a system ! On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:34:01 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Bob: Fred says I make weird CS. You say I have a weird physiology. All I have to say is, anyone who agrees with my wife can't be all bad. Rog -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Brain Tuner
Hi Katie, On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:20:37 -0700, Katie Jay kj...@erols.com wrote: Thanks for pointing me to the site. Am I to understand that the only blood electrification device Action Electronics has is a combination blood electrifier and CS maker? I couldn't tell :o) They're almost the same thing. Both should be current limited to 1 milliampere of current -- but that won't work with the blood electrifier (IOW, it allows too much current to flow into the body, IMO). Both use around 35 volts. So saying it has both functions is sorta correct. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:52:09 -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Nah! I before E except after C. Now, that's WEIRD! Chuck It's not that I don't believe in the system--I don't believe that there IS a system ! You didn't finish the quote. It ends: or when sounded as AY, as in neighbor or weigh. 'course, I don't know where that puts weird. :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSApricot Kernels
Hi, I have a lb. of organically grown Apricot Kernels in my refrigerator in a zip lock bag that have been there for at least 2 or 3 years, just now opened them and they smell OK and they taste the same. Do they have to be really fresh to do any good? Thanks,Mary H. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Brain Tuner
Dear Bob, Thanks for pointing me to the site. Am I to understand that the only blood electrification device Action Electronics has is a combination blood electrifier and CS maker? I couldn't tell :o) Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsota instruments
Hi Henry you will find that the sota website is up again now. a few changes..not much -Original Message- From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 12:35 PM Subject: CSsota instruments Hope this is posted to the correct list!! We bought a silver pulser unit from Sota just a few days before the gov't hammered them. The return address for the instrument is Sota Instruments Inc., PO Box 866, Point Roberts, WA 98281-0866. I doubt that contact can be made thru this but maybe. Sharing Health From the Heart Inc. return address is PO Box 1817, Oroville, WA 98844. Thought some of you might be interested. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS and the meat you eat
Does anyone soak store-bought meat in CS? This idea I got after reading the following: To: list spot...@yournet.com Subject: Tumor Meat øXøøXøøXøøXøøXø TUMOR MEAT Meat from diseased animals approved for consumers By LANCE GAY Scripps Howard News Service July 14, 2000 WASHINGTON - The federal agency overseeing food inspection is imposing new rules reclassifying as safe for human consumption animal carcasses with cancers, tumors and open sores. Federal meat inspectors and consumer groups are protesting the move to classify tumors and open sores as aesthetic problems, which permits the meat to get the government's purple seal of approval as a wholesome food product. I don't want to eat pus from a chicken that has pneumonia. I think it's gross, said Wenonah Hauter, director of Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy Project. Most Americans don't want to eat this sort of contamination in their meals. Delmer Jones, a federal food inspector for 41 years who lives in Renlap, Ala., said he's so revolted by the lowering of food wholesomeness standards that he doesn't buy meat at the supermarket anymore because he doesn't trust that it is safe to eat. I eat very little to no meat, but sardines and fish, said Jones, president of the National Joint Council of Meat Inspection Locals, a union of 7,000 meat inspectors nationwide affiliated with the American Federation of Government Employees. He said he's trying to get his wife to stop eating meat. I've told her what she's eating. The union is battling related Agriculture Department plans to rely on scientific testing of samples of butchered meats to determine the wholesomeness of meat, rather than traditional item-by-item scrutiny by federal inspectors. A 1959 federal law requires inspectors from the Agriculture Department's Food Inspection and Safety System to inspect all slaughtered animals before they can be sold for human consumption. The Agriculture Department began implementing the new policy as part of a pilot project in 24 slaughter houses last October, and plans to expand the system nationwide covering poultry, beef and pork. The agency this month extended until Aug. 29 the time for the public to comment on the regulations, and won't issue final rules until after the comments are received. In 1998, the inspections and safety system reclassified an array of animal diseases as being defects that rarely or never present a direct public health risk and said unaffected carcass portions could be passed on to consumers by cutting out lesions. Among animal diseases the agency said don't present a health danger are: - Cancer; - A pneumonia of poultry called airsacculitis; - Glandular swellings or lymphomas; - Sores; - Infectious arthritis; - Diseases caused by intestinal worms. In the case of tumors, the guidelines state: remove localized lesion(s) and pass unaffected carcass portions. They just cut off the areas,'' said Carol Blake, spokeswoman for the Agriculture Department's inspection and safety system. But Jones and consumer groups say production lines are moving so fast that they can't catch all the diseased carcasses, and some are ending up on supermarket shelves. When I started inspecting, inspectors were looking at 13 birds a minute, then 40, and now it's 91 birds a minute with three inspectors. You cannot do your job with 91 birds a minute, Jones said. The Agriculture Department is also experimenting with proposed rules that would require federal food inspectors to monitor what the plant employees are doing, rather than inspecting each carcass individually. They are aimed at bringing a new scientific approach to federal meat inspection to cut down on E. coli bacteria and other contamination. The inspection and safety agency says a survey of pilot plants using the new system concluded that less than 1 percent of the poultry examined at the end of the production line and released for public consumption was unwholesome. At a public hearing on the findings this year, Karen Henderson of Agriculture's division of field operations admitted that defective carcasses are being approved for human use under the pilot program. Absolutely. There's no system that we are aware of that is capable of removing every defect from the process, she said. Felicia Nestor, director of the Government Accountability Project, a Washington watchdog group, said the pilot project found chickens with higher levels of fecal and other contamination than in traditional methods of inspecting. A lot of diseased animals are going out, she said. A. Raymond Randolph, a federal appeals court judge, this month said federal food safety laws require meat and poultry inspectors to examine every carcass that moves through slaughterhouses and processing plants. The laws clearly contemplate that when inspections are done, it will be federal inspectors, rather than private employees, who will make the critical determination whether
CS and vaccines
Any knowledge, opinions, or testimonials out there as to any effect CS may have on the detrimental efects of vaccinations? Instead of blowing billions pushing questionable vaccines on innocent, unsuspecting children, why aren't we addressing the safety issues that exist right now, today? Here's the tip of the iceberg: Since 1988 autism increased 273% in California and a startling 571% in Florida. Some researchers suspect the incidence rate is tied to MMR vaccine. What are we doing about it? Fifty percent of all reported adverse reactions to hepatitis B vaccine have been listed as serious vs. the typical 15% serious rate of other vaccines. What's wrong? Japan isn't into mandated infant vaccinations, rarely mixes vaccines, and dramatically altered their schedule to avoid adverse reactions. The Japanese now enjoy the lowest infant mortality rate in the world. The U.S. rate is a distant, embarrassing number 25. How come? Shouldn't we find out the reasons why before we accept even 1 more of the 35 new vaccines heading our way? There's so much money in the toxic brew that some 150 more are in various stages of development. Other than the pharmaceutical companies, who the hell wants them? Why are our children being mandated into human guinea pigs? Amazingly enough, people roll up their sleeves - and those of their children - without even batting an eyelash. Please listen carefully to the words spoken to me by the mother of a seriously vaccine-injured child. It never occurred to me that once you squirt it in, you can't get it out. My daughter will pay the penalty for the rest of her life. * * * * * * * * * * * Autistic children caused by MMR vaccine By Julie Foster © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com A report by Dr. Harold Buttram, a practicing physician in Quakertown, Pa., suggests the recent increase in the number of autistic children could be caused by the combination measles, mumps and rubella, or MMR, vaccine routinely given to children at age 18 months -- a phenomenon the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention claim is highly unlikely. In a past study of autistic children, researchers found that 84 percent of the children had antibodies against a certain type of brain tissue, indicating that the immune system was destroying brain cells. The researchers also found the brain tissue antibody to be very similar to the antibody that's formed against the MMR vaccine. Additionally, MMR antibody was found in 59 percent of the autistic children compared to 10 percent in normal children. Buttram also noted some experts believe certain childhood illnesses including measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox are a necessary and helpful step in strengthening the immune system. Because the vaccines are given by injection, the immune response of the mucous membranes, through which these diseases enter the body, is not challenged and strengthened. Those who support the theory also attribute the use of vaccines to the great increase in cases of asthma and eczema, both of which are diseases of the mucous membranes. Buttram was quick to point out that measles and other diseases may result in complications that cause brain injury. Therefore, physicians and government officials may be choosing between the lesser of two evils. It is true that there may be situations where extreme measures may be justified, as the lesser of two evils, to preserve life and health, Buttram wrote. The basic question, therefore, is whether the benefits of current childhood vaccines outweigh the harm, or whether the reverse is true. The incidence of autism in California increased 273 percent from 1987 to 1998, and a growing number of medical professionals are questioning the FDA's vaccine safety tests. A small but growing minority of physicians and scientists are becoming aware that safety testing for the various vaccines has been woefully inadequate, Buttram wrote. He cited a 1994 National Academy of Sciences review of the safety of the hepatitis B vaccine. The review was done to investigate five possible adverse effects of the vaccine. However, conclusions could not be made about four of the effects due to a lack of enough research. Dr. Bernard Rimland, founder and director of the Autism Research Institute in San Diego, Calif., told DiscoveryHealth.com, There are no data on the triple vaccines. When the institute opened in 1967, Rimland noticed that a number of parents had mentioned that the diptheria, pertussin and tetanus, or DPT, vaccine seemed to have an adverse effect on their children. In the late '70s and early '80s, we began hearing the same thing about MMR, he said. Rimland pointed out that triple vaccines can put additional stress on the body. A person's immune system usually deals with one virus at a time. Combining the individual measles, mumps and rubella vaccines into one package results in a much more dangerous vaccine, he said. Rimland also noted that doctors can report adverse effects of vaccines
