Re: CS>HVAC CS
In a message dated 9/6/00 6:45:09 PM EST, tsch...@totalaccess.net writes: << Subj: CS>HVAC CS Date: 9/6/00 6:45:09 PM EST From: tsch...@totalaccess.net (Tommy & Coni) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I was wondering how to make HVAC CS. I have a 15,000 volt neon transformer and silver electrodes. What else is needed and what is the protocol (i.e.: cooking time, proper Distilled Water, stirring ) Thanks in advance Tommy >> Tommy: Review the silver list archives then contact me off list with any questions. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
Chuck: What was the wire gauge you used and what was the distance from the immersed wire to the one held slightly above the water? Roger Here's a repost of how I did it over a year ago: Well, My son came up with a 9kv neon xfmer for me today, so I was anxious to try a HVCS setup. I took a wide mouth jar that seems to hold 2/3 gal. Cut a tapered plug for the mouth out of a piece of 5/4 oak on the bandsaw, and drilled 2 tiny holes to be able to slip the silver wires thru. I made the first run using tap water, just to see what to expect. One wire is about 10" long, goes to the bottom of the jug with the excess coiled on the bottom. The other wire is about 5" long and is adjusted to be about 1/8" above the water surface. Clip leaded the xfmer leads to the silver and let "er rip. >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
In a message dated 9/6/00 7:51:57 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: << Subj: Re: CS>HVAC CS Date: 9/6/00 7:51:57 PM EST From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Either put the electrodes above the water and let the voltage suck the water up to it (CS Pro method), >> Marchall: Did you mean to say both electrodes above the water? If so, what is the advantage of doing that as opposed to immersing one and leaving the other above the water as you stated? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>need zapper info
Sounds like a Hulda Clarke zapper, Dave. Ivan. - Original Message - From: "dave" To: Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2000 18:34 Subject: CS>need zapper info > sorry,i know a bit off topic again but,know someone on this > list can help.. > Today i found a device at the local Good Will thrift store,3 > bucks.. Made by Elmo Loomis in WV. USA from what i can tell > by the little instruction sticker on the back. It is a 4in. > by 7.5 in. by 1.25 in. tan box, off on switch,LED,and two > jacks for banana plugs,runs on 9 volts,output shows 3.6 vdc > or 7.3 vac. > does anyone have any further info on this kind of > zapper,used one ,web site,frequencies etc.it looks like a > 555 timer and a few other radio shack components > inside..thanks in advance.. > oh by the way CS and MSM nose spray cleared up my sinus > infection.. 260dave.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and other health products mentioned on Sightings
After someone mentioned CS being the topic of a Sightings story, I did a search and found one where they discussed a number of useful health products. It was interesting that Rife was on the list too. I was wondering if anyone would like to comment on what they think of the others that were discussed especially Essiac, Oxy-C, blue green algae, and the magnetic sleep pad. My email is fernwo...@aol.com. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Karen Flor-Essence Herbal Tea (Essiac) The world's best body detoxifier, it has helped tens of thousands back to vibrant health by itself. A must. You can buy the liquid ready to drink, but it is far cheaper to buy the dry product and brew your own supply Benefin Shark Cartilage William Lane is the man who figured out that sharks don't get cancer and that consuming shark cartilage will, in many cases, shut off the blood supply to tumors which die and ultimately turn into scar tissue. Buy the powder form and mix it in berry smoothies to mask the fish taste Enzyme Co Q-10 Used first for people with serious heart disease, it was then noticed that many of these people were suddenly being cured of cancer. Capsules or tablets. RDA for cancer patients is said to be 300 mgs per day. Need 97% pure Q-10. Water content should be below 2% Dr. Kelly, dying of pancreatic cancer, began taking massive doses of pancreatic enzymes which killed his tumor by breaking down the 'foreign' protein coating of the malignant cells. The tumor was then dissolved by his own immune system. Pancreatin (health food stores) is commonly used. Many others take combinations of proteolytic enzymes. Capsules or tablets Oxy-C (Oxygen in a capsule) These capsules are a major oxygen source for the body. Originally developed by Dr. Eugene Blass in the early part of this century, this product is known generically as 'homozone' and breaks down into oxygen in your digestive tract. Oxy-C not only introduces oxygen to the bloodstream but cleans the digestive tract and colon wonderfully. Another good way to oxygenate the body is by using stabilized liquid oxygen drops (Aquagen, etc.) in water which are commonly available in health food stores. Remember, cancer cells have stopped using oxygen and instead ferment sugar for their energy. Eating sugar of any kind from high fructose corn syrup to white or brown sugar is just great for cancer growth Colloidal Silver (liquid) There has been mountains of material written about this natural antibacterial-antiviral substance which is nothing more than tiny particles of pure silver electrostatically charged to repel themselves in a base of pure water. Silver in this form is fatal to more than 600 known bacteria and viruses and is primarily used by placing a teaspoon of the liquid under the tongue 1-3 times per day, depending on need. The ideal ratio of the silver to water is 3-5 ppm at a size of .001 micron. Udo's Perfected Oil Blend; Missing Link; & Digestive Enzyme Blend Fats from oils are essential. However, there are very good oils - and very bad oils. Udo Erasmus has taken all the mystery out of oils in foods. These are great products and easy to use. In fact, the only oil in the supermarket that you should purchase is extra-virgin olive oil. Every other oil has been processed and is bad, especially partially hydrogenated oil of any type. Canola oil is one of the worst and is showing up in more packaged foods all the time. Note: If your local health food store doesn't carry these, ask that they add them. Or, you can order direct by calling Flora, Inc. at: 1-800-446-2110 Super Blue Green Algae This is a fine product manufactured by Cell Tech and commonly available through independent sales agents. Algae is low on the food chain and is a pure source of nutrients. There are some other excellent Algae products in health food stores...ask store nutritionist. Available in capsules and powder form for smoothies. Ultimate Basic Smoothie Recipe One banana (slice it and freeze it); 8-10 oz Rice Dream (Enriched Vanilla, Carob, etc.); one scoop Spiru-Tein protein powder; one scoop Super Blue Green (Algae) Super Sun Smoothie powder; one tablespoon of Udo's Perfected Oil Blend; one tablespoon Udo's Missing Link; one measure of Greens+ (or Vibrant Green). Mix in blender. If you don't like this, you probably won't like anything. Other excellent 'powder' supplements which might be added: All One, Ultimate Meal, Green Magic. Purified Water Is there any reason to clarify the necessity of this? Some people 'get well' simply by beginning to drink plenty of clean, pure water! Live Juices (wheat grass to carrot) and fresh fruits and vegetables. Get a good commercial juicer. Although time-consuming and rather expensive, juicing is an excellent way to nourish the body and is the basis of the Gerson and other 'natural' therapies in dealing with cancer and other serious disease. Eliminate Meat, Dairy Products, and Su
Re: CS>selling colloidal silver
Hi George, In which country do you reside, as I think laws differ. You don't need amber bottles, most listers use coloured and clear. I use wine bottles with a cork. A lid would indicate a jar. Kind Regards Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/6/00 7:51:57 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: > > << Subj: Re: CS>HVAC CS > Date: 9/6/00 7:51:57 PM EST > From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > Either put the electrodes above the water and let the voltage suck the water > up to it (CS Pro method), >> > > Marchall: Did you mean to say both electrodes above the water? If so, what is > the advantage of doing that as opposed to immersing one and leaving the other > above the water as you stated? Roger I have never seen one of these machines, so can't say for sure, but I thought both go above the water. The high voltage gradient is necessary to pull the colloid away from the wire sufficiently for it to not get sucked back into the wire on the next half cycle. Thus I believe that using both wires above the water will produce CS on both, but with one submerged, only one will be producing CS. Net effect, twice the production rate. But as I said I have no experience with this method. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS & ozoning
Silver mesh (or sometimes crystals) allows for oxygen adsorption on its surface, which forms an ionised superoxide and forms the intermediary for many catalytic reactions The type of catalytic reaction you are referring to (as above) is relevant only to the bulk material silver metal, and is not relevant, I believe, to the silver as found in vivo, which is primarily silver ions and silver compounds. Furthermore, there is very little free oxygen gas in the human body, most being bound to haemoglobin, myoglobin and other compounds. The silver - oxygen catalytic reaction relies on the fact that silver does not like to give up electrons! In fact silver is second only to gold in its non-reactivity to oxygen. In the reaction, the oxygen radical is lightly bound to the silver metal and more or less immediately reacts with some other element or compound. If this were to take place in the body, it would be downright dangerous...causing tissue and cellular damage and the mobilisation of superoxide dismutase (SOD) to bind with and neutralise the free radical. Unless there is some idea that silver can exist in the human body in the metallic, non-ionic form, then your postulation is not possible, in my view, as it is most unlikely that any oxygen gas can share the second ionisation electron, which the silver holds on to three times more tightly that the first, and atom to atom reactions do not share the same characteristics as found in bulk metal reactions. Regards Ivan. - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2000 06:28 Subject: Re: CS & ozoning > Ivan Anderson wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Marshall Dudley" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, 3 September 2000 15:18 > > Subject: Re: CS & ozoning > > > > > My take on this is that ozone does not react with colloidal silver, > > but > > > tends to be attracted to it, and electrostatically stick to it same as > > > oxygen. I believe that one of the reasons that CS is so effective is > > that > > > it pulls the O2 apart and singlet O sticks to it, but doesn't actually > > react > > > with it. Then when it contacts a pathogen, it reacts with the > > pathogen > > > killing it. An O3 on the surface of the CS particle would likely be > > more > > > toxic to a pathogen than the O. I believe, but have no proof that CS > > is > > > enhanced by bubbling O3 through it. I do it myself at times. > > > > > > Marshall > > > > Marshall, > > > > None of what you have written is likely to be found in fact. > > Ozone has a very short life in water, a few minutes at room temp. > > Oxygen (O2) is neutral and is unlikely to be attracted to SC. > > Oxygen is neutral and interacts very strongly with fine silver particles as > a catalyst. This is well documented. > > > Silver > > ions do not have the energy to pull O2 apart, and besides, the half life > > of the O- radical is milliseconds, and is more likely to pull another > > electron from the silver ion, if it could not find a more willing doner > > of electrons (which it will). > > All bets are off when you have O on the surface of a catalyst. We depend on > it finding a more willing donor of electrons than silver, that is what makes > it a great catalyst. > > > > > > > Bubbling Ozone through CS would, I suspect enhance the CS do some > > degree, if only by the formation of H2O2, which becomes stable in the > > presence of silver ions. > > > > Ivan. > > Silver particles are known to be an excellent oxidizing catalyst. Normally > O2 shares 2 electrons so that the outer shell is filled, making it stable. > Silver particles love to give up electrons and become positive. When an O2 > atom comes in contact with the Silver particle, two electrons can transfer > from the silver atom to each atom of the O2, filling the outer layers. Once > this is done, the two O atoms no longer have an affinity for each other, and > are free to move around the SURFACE of the silver particle. That is why it > is such a good catalyst, because singlet O is much more active than O2. The > silver does not pull them apart at all, it simply supplys the electrons so > that they are no longer sharing electrons, and they no longer have an > affinity for each other. > > But reactions of this sort are normally reversable, so singlet O can come > back into contact with another singlet O, become O2 and leave the silver. > However if O3 reaches the silver particle, a singlet would I think quickly > stick to the silver. In that case the particle would have an odd number of > O singlets, so that it would impossible for all the O to leave the surface > without reacting one of the singlets with something. > > Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To p
Re: CS>pH strips
June try cyn...@cynmar.com. I do business with them and they are a scientific supply house and reasonible as far as I can find out. h...@mcmo.net At 05:37 PM 9/4/00 -0400, you wrote: >I am in need of finding pH strips in larger than average quantities. >Any sources to share? > >Thank you, > >June > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>HVAC CS
In a message dated 9/7/00 8:58:01 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: << I have never seen one of these machines, so can't say for sure, but I thought both go above the water. The high voltage gradient is necessary to pull the colloid away from the wire sufficiently for it to not get sucked back into the wire on the next half cycle. Thus I believe that using both wires above the water will produce CS on both, but with one submerged, only one will be producing CS. Net effect, twice the production rate. But as I said I have no experience with this method. Marshall >> Marshall: Thanks for that info. You know, since I'm using the "sputtered arc" method, I always thought I had to settle for CS production only from the arc-generating electrode. Now, however, I realized that I can put the other electrode just above the water so that it will "suck-up" the water into a spout and generate a little more production. BTW, I have been perfecting my sputtering technique, and I can control it much better now. I estimate "sputtering-type" production is on the order of 50% -- possibly allowing me to generate a ~50 PPM product instead of my usual 25-30 PPM. This type of CS may work better for systemic ailments. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>selling colloidal silver
- Original Message - From: Carol Webb To: Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:45 AM Subject: Re: CS>selling colloidal silver > Hi George, > In which country do you reside, as I think laws > differ. We reside in the USA. > Kind Regards > Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Breathing Ozone
Hello All, I wanted to say Thanks to all who weighed in on my question about breathing ozonated air. It helped me to understand more about the subject and make a decision not to purchase the Ozonated Air machine. I would probably be doing myself more harm than good. Thanks again for all your responses. Maurice "Knowledge is a treasure to be shared." YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>rain water from thunder storm??????
In a message dated 09/04/2000 7:19:21 AM Romance Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: << I would LOVE to see this expanded to include "structured" water. Healers hands, homeopathy, rain water from a thunderstorm, Flanagan (I think he's a phoney, but I'm a minority), etc... Chuck, I agree! Tell me more, especially about rain water from a thunder storm, by private email, or the list, which ever is considered appropriate. Karen fernwo...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Beck protocol for cancer
September 7, 2000 Brad, I think you can still obtain copies of published articles by the physicist Bob Beck PhD and other researchers dealing with the experimental use of CS, electrical currents, magnetic impulses, ozonized water and the electrical activity of leukocytes in the human body. I recently sent 12 dollars to Action Electronics, 1300 E Edinger Ave, Santa Ana CA 92705-4425 [action-electronics.com]. I told them I was interested in any reprints of published reports/articles/abstracts written by researchers pertaining to experiments in the general field of electromedical research and the functioning of the human immune system --- anything that they could find. I understand that Action Electronics passed my request and my money on to someone else. After about ten days or more I received around 40-45 pages of reprints of articles and research reports in a large envelope that had no return address. With the permission of copyright holders it is still legal to pass around reprints of published articles --- a right protected by the First Amendment to the USA Constitution --- if it is kept "properly separated" from the sale of devices so as not to be construed in the eyes of the FDA and the FTC as the labeling of devices for sale for a use not duly approved by the FDA. "Fair use" privileges of copyrighted material also may apply here. Action Electronics personnel will not discuss with you any possible experimental medical uses of the devices that they sell. They WILL discuss with you the design of their devices. Some of the experimental devices that they sell are clearly labelled "not approved for use on humans" and some experimental devices offered by Action Electronics are said to be design-approved by Bob Beck. Spiroflex == - Original Message - From: "Bradley Kirby" To: Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:15 AM Subject: CS>Beck protocol for cancer > I need to construct a protocol for liver cancer using the four Beck > machines. Any suggestions welcome. Also if any one has a copy of the 50 page > Beck pamphlet that printed pre FDA action. > Thank You bradki...@email.com = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Breathing Ozone
Dear Maruce, If you were talking about one of those room filters, I really did not know that much about them. MY daughter has recently been using one. Check with her on her impressios. SHe is reachable at ghi...@home.com tell her mom sent you. Barb Michael Lee Finney michael.fin...@acm.org michael.fin...@computer.org -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
I believe it's 14 gauge, WAG 2 inches. Since then, I've inserted series resistance to limit current to ~2ma. Now the water doesn't heat up and run time can go to 24 hrs. Tyndall is very light with no color change in the water. I suspect the product is improved, at least it still works. That's really my only criteria. I'm a nerd until I reach my objective. Then, I'm merely interested. Chuck The little engine that philosophized I think I am! I think I am! On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:39:01 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: >Chuck: What was the wire gauge you used and what was the distance from the >immersed wire to the one held slightly above the water? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Argyria on the counter top
Hi, Listers, I spilled a little CS on my butcher block countertop and now I have a blue-gray spot. Bleach won't remove it. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS list subject line
Hey, people, it's not a sin to change the subject line when the subject changes. Makes it easier to find things according to topic. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Argyria on the counter top
Hi MB, I have heard that hydrogen peroxide will work. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: mama2b...@aol.com [SMTP:mama2b...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CS>Argyria on the counter top Hi, Listers, I spilled a little CS on my butcher block countertop and now I have a blue-gray spot. Bleach won't remove it. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
--- rogalt...@aol.com wrote: > Chuck: What was the wire gauge you used and what was > the distance from the > immersed wire to the one held slightly above the > water? Roger > > Here's a repost of how I did it over a year ago: > > > Well, > My son came up with a 9kv neon xfmer for me today, > so I was anxious to > try a HVCS setup. > I took a wide mouth jar that seems to hold 2/3 gal. > Cut a tapered plug > for the mouth out of a piece of 5/4 oak on the > bandsaw, and drilled 2 > tiny holes to be able to slip the silver wires > thru. > I made the first run using tap water, just to see > what to expect. > One wire is about 10" long, goes to the bottom of > the jug with the > excess coiled on the bottom. > The other wire is about 5" long and is adjusted to > be about 1/8" above > the water surface. > Clip leaded the xfmer leads to the silver and let > "er rip. >> > I have done a similar thing just to see the effects of electrical disharge. The more ball like discharge is shown at http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/LaGrangeLn/teslafy/ball.html I did not however use a NST(neon sign transformer) I used super large air core induction coils of 56 henry, each in series resonance @ 60 hz, each also 180 out of phase and the water arc between them. Only a 440 transformer was used in input to the coils, and the system only drew 20 to 30 ma on the high voltage side, making it only about a 13 watt process. The q of the combined coils system gives 30, which means a 30 fold increase of the 440 volts before discharge.Scope forms of the coils maganetic field action are also contained,and one of the unusual things about taking pictures with a VHS camera of a scope form a these frequency sweeps is that lines or traces that werent on the original taping appear on the recording as anomalous traces, going right off the scope screen. I am having trouble accessing the site today, but it always worked before. HDN = Binary Resonant Systemhttp://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb124201 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Argyria on the counter top
Does anyone know if CS is supposed to stain in this way? I just dropped some of my CS onto a piece of untreated wood, left it for a minute or two, and wiped it off. There was no stain. I'm having a crisis of confidence in the quality of my CS. Kind Regards Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Argyria on the counter top
Carol Webb wrote: > Does anyone know if CS is supposed to stain in > this way? I just dropped some of my CS onto a > piece of untreated wood, left it for a minute or > two, and wiped it off. There was no stain. I'm > having a crisis of confidence in the quality of my > CS. If you wipe it off it should not stain. If you let it evaporate, then the colloid aggregates into larger particles and stains. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
Roger; When I used the aec method for CS it generated up to 80 ppm of NO3 with ia one big NO NO!. I solved the problem with the use of a SO2 blanket in the freeboard of the brew cell. I can make high ppm (25 in 2"30") with about 0.8 ppm of NO3 using 12 kv and a 7/16" arc gap. It appears that the amount of submerged electrcode is relative unimportant. One person uses two 3" x 6" electrodes. I have used two 1" x 5 1/2" electrodes and also two #14 wires shielded with glass and only the lower 2 1/2" of silver exposed. According to Dr. Bill Biagilio the FDA limit is 20 ppm of NO3, If the conductance goes over about 100 uS I d not use it even though it is crystal clear and with a weak T.E. Genetally the conductance is 50 to 80 uS as measured with a one cubic centimeter probe. The T.E. is always weak to very weak. My experience with the cone method has been very unsatifactory as I could not get more than 9 ppm without yellow or fall out, or bright T.E. "Ole Bob: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Argyria on the counter top
Sandpaper. Marshall mama2b...@aol.com wrote: > Hi, Listers, > I spilled a little CS on my butcher block countertop and now I have a > blue-gray spot. Bleach won't remove it. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
"Robert L. Berger" wrote: > Roger; > > When I used the aec method for CS it generated up to 80 ppm of NO3 with ia > one > big NO NO!. I solved the problem with the use of a SO2 blanket in the > freeboard > of the brew cell. SO2? That plus H2O gives H2SO3, sulfurous acid doesn't it? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
--- "Robert L. Berger" wrote: > Roger; > > When I used the aec method for CS it generated up to > 80 ppm of NO3 with ia one > big NO NO!. I solved the problem with the use of a > SO2 blanket in the freeboard > of the brew cell. What is SO2 blanket and freeboard? Thanks for this info, as I was thinking of making some CS water myself with a high voltage AC method. So that makes N03 bad, what about hydrogen peroxide? Should we expect minute amounts of this to be created, I have heard this is also healty, although most only gargle the food grade. Plants are also said to respond to minute mixtures of H202. I am new to list, forgive many questions HDN > I can make high ppm (25 in 2"30") with about 0.8 > ppm of NO3 using 12 kv and a > 7/16" arc gap. It appears that the amount of > submerged electrcode is relative > unimportant. One person uses two 3" x 6" electrodes. > I have used two 1" x 5 1/2" > electrodes and also two #14 wires shielded with > glass and only the lower 2 1/2" > of silver exposed. According to Dr. Bill Biagilio > the FDA limit is 20 ppm of > NO3, > > If the conductance goes over about 100 uS I d not > use it even though it is > crystal clear and with a weak T.E. Genetally the > conductance is 50 to 80 uS as > measured with a one cubic centimeter probe. The T.E. > is always weak to very > weak. Can you define uS which I thought was microseconds? Also what is T.E. Isnt conductance in mho units or ohms? > > My experience with the cone method has been very > unsatifactory as I could not get > more than 9 ppm without yellow or fall out, or > bright T.E. > > "Ole Bob: > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an > e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the > SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > = Binary Resonant Systemhttp://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb124201 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: CS>Argyria on the counter top
Dear Marshall, Is this why I must dry CS impregnated bandages in the oven, and not allow them to dry naturally. If I did they would go grey? Blessings Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>need zapper info
Thanks Ivan and all,after looking at a few schematics and parts lists it does appear to be a classic Hulda Clarke zapper.Guess i'll hook it up and see what happens huh..the instructions on the back suggest to wrap hand holds (3/4'' copper pipe) in wet paper towels ,,7 minutes on 20 minute rest,repeat 3 times..does that sound about right,i have seen so much conflicting info..Thanks again,,260dave.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
Error CO2 carbon dioxide "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Argyria on the counter top
Hi Carol, On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:48:41 +0100, "Carol Webb" wrote: >Is this why I must dry CS impregnated >bandages in the oven, and not allow them to dry >naturally. If I did they would go grey? The grey is silver oxide (called tarnish when on silverware). I can identify it, but I sure don't know how to get it out of countertops. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>HVAC CS
Harvey; Typo error, it should be CO2 or carbon dioxide or dry ice, Free board is the space between the water surface and the top of the brew cell. The idea is to exclude all air as it is nitrogen and oxygen. If there is NO3 present then the chances of having silver nitrate is very real and that causes people to turn blue !!! "Ole Bob" >
Re: CS>Argyria on the counter top
Thanks to everyone for your comments. It's a very small spot. I will try the sandpaper or maybe steel wool. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Bandages
TO BROOKS BRADLEY, in a note to Carol you wrote: P.S. If you have a serious interest in becoming aware of a very economical means of employing "home-made" CS for fabricating your own "silver bandages", do contact me off-list. Have been looking for your email for two days, are you comfortable providing an email address. Would making CS bandages be a process someone would be comfortable describing in detail? Thanks. Understand the CS bandages have now received FDA approval also. suzy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Recent article on fluoride
If anyone still has the article on fluoride that appeared in August would you please send it to me? It's for a young friend whose bones are deteriorating, and her dentist wants her to use fluoride. Thank you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: Recent article on fluoride
Hi M2B, For enough information on the entire fluoride debacle to make you aware of just how bad it is, and what their motives are, go to www.trufax.org Note, org, not com. Search the site for "fluoride" and "chemical manipulation of humans". It is a massive site, and takes some work to get around in it, but it is worth it in available information. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: mama2b...@aol.com [SMTP:mama2b...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CS>Re: Recent article on fluoride If anyone still has the article on fluoride that appeared in August would you please send it to me? It's for a young friend whose bones are deteriorating, and her dentist wants her to use fluoride. Thank you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour