CS>E-mail change?

2002-09-01 Thread Hank Adams
Hi, How do I change my email address for this group? Thank you.
Hank



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CS>HVAC

2002-09-01 Thread AScottSilver
Has anyone tried making a HVAC generator for CS with a 555 timer and an auto 
coil? If the waveform is symmetrical and there is no ground reference then 
pulsed DC should work just as well as AC. Just curious...

Andy


CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-01 Thread Ralph D.Gerhardt

Barbara,

This web site has info on Ibogain. It is a paper on "IBOGAINE: A BRIEF HISTORY
INCLUDING RESEARCH CONDUCTED IN 1995 & 1996

http://www.drogeninfo.de/files/ibogain.html

Ralph Gerhardt
==

At 10:52 AM 9/2/02 -0500, you wrote:

James,

I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help with
drug addiction.  I think crank, heroine and pot are all involved.

What is Ibogain.  Is it really a tangible thing or slang for whatever?
- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome


> Yes.  All of that has also been my observation.  When one experiences a
> really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
> distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range
health
> deterioration.
>
> Ibogain.  Relatively easy withdrawal from heroin addiction after as little
> as one dose has been reported in the medical community.  I hear it is a
> fantastic aphrodisiac too.  I have never been able to track it down.
>
>
> NOTE.  Mandatory Colloidal-Silver-Related-Content follows: I wonder if you
> took a dose of a potent psychedelic with silver could you could watch the
> sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a
> molecular level?
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
>
>
>   I really don't know.  I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years.  I suspect
> it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin from
the
> shroom did it in.  The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly kind
> gotten from  niacin.
>  It is the brain that directs everything, after all.  Direct the brain and
> there's no tellin what can happen. Shamans have been using the shroom for
> eons to enable alternative focus of attention.
> Psychedelics have been know to completely reprogram people overnight.
> Longtime addicts to alchohol, coke and heroin have been "cured" in days
> without withdrawals with the use of strong psychedelics such as abogain
> [sp?] treatments.The early experiments with LSD yeilded some similar
> amazing results too.
>  But it's not legal here.
>  People who have their programming erased get strange ideas about freedom
> that those who would define it for us don't like. [No more achoholism  AND
> no more marriage?  No sense of hurry or pressure..no need for a car?]
>  They like the idea that one would be freed of a drug addiction, but don't
> like it when the person gets freed of the whole consumer addiction/wage
> serf value system enchilada.
>
>  If someone rethinks the entire system from scratch..that could be
> dangerous.
>  When role playing means nothing, what then, is the role of leader worth?
> Ken
>
>
> At 01:05 PM 8/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Ode Coyote wrote:
> >
> >>  Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain
> fertilizer.
> >>
> >> It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of
a
> >> ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
> >> Ken
> >
> >Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.
> >
> >Jeannie
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--
> >We lie the loudest when we lie to ourselves.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jeannie McReynolds
> >Oregon Coast
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-09-01 Thread Barbara Liles
James,

I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help with
drug addiction.  I think crank, heroine and pot are all involved.

What is Ibogain.  Is it really a tangible thing or slang for whatever?
- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome


> Yes.  All of that has also been my observation.  When one experiences a
> really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
> distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range
health
> deterioration.
>
> Ibogain.  Relatively easy withdrawal from heroin addiction after as little
> as one dose has been reported in the medical community.  I hear it is a
> fantastic aphrodisiac too.  I have never been able to track it down.
>
>
> NOTE.  Mandatory Colloidal-Silver-Related-Content follows: I wonder if you
> took a dose of a potent psychedelic with silver could you could watch the
> sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a
> molecular level?
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
>
>
>   I really don't know.  I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years.  I suspect
> it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin from
the
> shroom did it in.  The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly kind
> gotten from  niacin.
>  It is the brain that directs everything, after all.  Direct the brain and
> there's no tellin what can happen. Shamans have been using the shroom for
> eons to enable alternative focus of attention.
> Psychedelics have been know to completely reprogram people overnight.
> Longtime addicts to alchohol, coke and heroin have been "cured" in days
> without withdrawals with the use of strong psychedelics such as abogain
> [sp?] treatments.The early experiments with LSD yeilded some similar
> amazing results too.
>  But it's not legal here.
>  People who have their programming erased get strange ideas about freedom
> that those who would define it for us don't like. [No more achoholism  AND
> no more marriage?  No sense of hurry or pressure..no need for a car?]
>  They like the idea that one would be freed of a drug addiction, but don't
> like it when the person gets freed of the whole consumer addiction/wage
> serf value system enchilada.
>
>  If someone rethinks the entire system from scratch..that could be
> dangerous.
>  When role playing means nothing, what then, is the role of leader worth?
> Ken
>
>
> At 01:05 PM 8/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Ode Coyote wrote:
> >
> >>  Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain
> fertilizer.
> >>
> >> It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of
a
> >> ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
> >> Ken
> >
> >Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.
> >
> >Jeannie
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--
> >We lie the loudest when we lie to ourselves.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jeannie McReynolds
> >Oregon Coast
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: CS>RE: H2O2 and silver reaction

2002-09-01 Thread MARIANO DELISE
It has been my personal experience that drinking the CS with H2o2 does
indeed increase the effectivness.  Somehow the silver particles become more
tiny, and they seem to be able to get into the blood stream quicker.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: CS>RE: H2O2 and silver reaction


> Don,
>
> No I am not saying that, although it will be much more effective than
> metallic CS in the test-tube, and probably when applied externally
> also.
>
> There is much contention about the effectiveness ions vs. particles
> when taken orally, I tend to favour ions myself and so make that
> variety, but it is reported that particle CS is effective also. I have
> tried both, and can tell little difference between them, but then I
> haven't been ill much either.
> I should say that, if anecdotal evidence is accepted, then it is very
> difficult to make a CS which is not effective...and perhaps the only
> distinguishing feature is the colloid's stability and shelf life.
>
> Regards
> Ivan.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dwells2...@aol.com [mailto:dwells2...@aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2002 1:11 a.m.
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>RE: H2O2 and silver reaction
> >
> >
> > Hi Ivan,
> >
> > > The solution now consists of silver ions each having a positive
> > > charge, whereas the particles with which the H2O2 reacted had no
> > > charge at all. Indeed, metallic particles will most likely have a
> > > negative charge, due to the OH- molecules which adsorb
> > > (Stick to the
> > > outside of) the particles.
> >
> >
> > >
> > I want to be very clear on the above. Are you stating that
> > H2O2 mixed with CS and then allowed to "mix" actually makes
> > the solution more potent in regards to effectiveness
> > against pathogens?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Don Wells
>
>
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CS>Sorry too much E-on Silver List. Must leave.

2002-09-01 Thread Marlene Hanson
Dear listers I have enjoyed getting your information.  Lately I am getting so 
many messages it takes hours to delete them.  I wish this was a board forum as 
it wouldn't require so much time.  Hate leaving but I must.  Marlene WA.  I am 
on the Histamine and alternative treatment board for MS at 
http://disc.server.com/Indices/html we have a very active board and many are 
finding help for MS and other Immune related illnesses. Many of us are using CS 
and finding it helps. You are welcome to visit.


Re: CS>have you ever heard of these distilled waters

2002-09-01 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Willard Water was a big deal in South Dakota in the late 60's early
70's.  They found a stream that had some lignite coal and other minerals
in it , and did some experimenting and found it to seem to cure some
ailments.  CBS 60 min. did a couple specials on it and the co. went wild
with request for the product.  Greed and mismanagement set in, and they
never really regained the original momentum.  They are in business today
under new ownership.
I am from S.Dak. and tried some original Willard Water, it was toted to
give you energy, but my tank must have been full, I never noticed any
additional energy. They have a web site under "Willard Water"
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ

Roy Thompson wrote:

>  I have heard about willard's water several times now.Can anyone
> elaborate on this?
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: mars larz
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 1:29 AM
>  Subject: CS>have you ever heard of these distilled waters
>   listen... i do not make cs but i read the site  and
>  at one point "caution" about distilled water from k-mart was
>  a big issue.   (BIG SPAM  IN BOX
>  MESSAGES)anyway.  in my travels on foot and on
>  the net i came across  willard's water & aloe water i think
>  they both are distilled   have you  guys ever heard of these
>  products?   i'm a cs newbie .  if you haven't  maybe  this
>  would be a new avenue to  look into even if out of pure
>  curiosity.  let me know if this helps
>
>
>
>
>
>  thank you
>
>
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Re: CS>A WARNING from Health CooP

2002-09-01 Thread M. G. Devour
I wrote:
> >Now that we've hashed out the two competing worldviews of the Co-op and 
> >"Dr. Jon", can we end or move this thread to the Off Topic List, 
> >please?

Chuck replies:
> As you wish, Mike, but the relevance to the silver list is that aka Dr
> Jon expressed a point about CS on a newsletter and exceptions were
> taken on this one. I would think it would be hashed here to a
> conclusion (or not) logically. Still your call...

Good point, Chuck, but...

And, later:
> This topic has changed enough to move it to the OT list.

That was my sense, too.

Clearly "Dr. Jon" has his loyal customers and his detractors. Most seem 
to agree that he's not exactly as he presents himself, but differ on 
how important that is. Ultimately, *THAT* issue is won't be resolved 
here.

The CS bashing by one of "Dr. Jon's" consultants was worth reporting, 
so that others could respond, as were any replies received from those 
responses. But that part of the topic seemed to be exhausted in about 3 
posts!

So, there it is. Make note that my powers may be extensive, but are not 
unlimited, and you all *DO* have considerable influence on how the list 
is to be used.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CS>Sodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead of making it.

2002-09-01 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hi James and Marshall.

The reason why sodium hydroxide is corrosive is that it can hold large
amounts of OH- ions in solution. It is corrosive at pH14, but totally
harmless at pH8, in fact it is good for you at pH8-9 and is no more
than alkalised water.
When one adds NaOH to water it more or less completely ionises, that
is, it disassociates into its component ions Na+ and OH-, which then
become free and dissolved. A solution of NaOH pH 7.4 has the same
number of free OH- ions as blood, and could be safely injected into
the blood stream. By your reasoning our blood contains sodium
hydroxide.
I have noticed this before, you guys seem to be intimidated by the
name Lye, but it is nothing more than discrete sodium and hydroxyl
ions swimming in water.
You can do what ever you like to the Cl-, Ag+ or Na+, but if the OH-
concentration stays the same the corrosiveness and pH of the solution
is not altered.

Regards
Ivan.



> -Original Message-
> From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2002 6:48 a.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>Sodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead of making it.
>
>
> Also, some very small portion of the water is ionized under standard
> conditions.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: *Silver-List*
> Subject: Re: CS>Sodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead of making it.
>
>
> Perhaps the OH is already there.  Maybe when one makes the
> CS, when an
> oxygen atom is pulled out at the electrode during electrolysis, the
> remaining OH sticks around to balance the silver ion.  So
> when salt is
> added, there is a simple reshuffle, with the OH and the Cl
> swapping partners
> so to speak.  That would give silver chloride and sodium
> hydroxide, or lye.
>
> Marshall
>
> Ivan Anderson wrote:
>
> > Just to clear up a few things :)
> >
> > If one does not add extra OH- ions to the mix, then the
> talk of sodium
> > hydroxide (Na+ OH-) is redundant.
> >
> > The sodium ions take no part in the reaction (Ag+ + Cl-
> => AgCl), and
> > are called spectator ions.
> >
> > Sodium ions cannot ionise anything as they are already oxidised,
> > sodium metal on the other hand reacts violently with water.
> >
> > Ivan.


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Re: CS>have you ever heard of these distilled waters

2002-09-01 Thread d.linen
http://www.dr-willardswater.com/

 

   Welcome to CAW
   Industries, Inc., the
   original manufacturers of
   Dr. Willard's Water.

   Thirty years ago, Dr. John
   Willard discovered a way to
   alter the molecular structure
   of water. The resulting
   solution, now known as
   catalyst altered water, has
   been used to improve
   personal health, accelerate
   the healing process, increase
   agriculture production ...even
   remove stubborn stains. The
   claims may seem
   unbelievable, but the results
   have been documented. If
   you are not familiar with our
   product, we encourage you
   to further explore the official
   Willard Water website. We
   believe that you will come to
   the same conclusion as our
   customers -- Willard Water
   works. 
  

CAW INDUSTRIES, INC.
   1628 Concourse Crt.
  Rapid City, South Dakota  57703 

  Phone: (605) 343-8100
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Re: CS>have you ever heard of these distilled waters

2002-09-01 Thread Roy Thompson

I have heard about willard's water several times now.
Can anyone elaborate on this?

  - Original Message - 
  From: mars larz 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 1:29 AM
  Subject: CS>have you ever heard of these distilled waters


  listen... i do not make cs but i read the site  and at one point 
"caution" about distilled water from k-mart was a big issue.   (BIG SPAM  IN 
BOX MESSAGES)anyway.  in my travels on foot and on the net i came 
across  willard's water & aloe water i think they both are distilled   have you 
 guys ever heard of these products?   i'm a cs newbie .  if you haven't  maybe  
this would be a new avenue to  look into even if out of pure curiosity.  let me 
know if this helps







  thank you




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