CSthe big bru-ha-ha and the senator

2002-10-05 Thread mars larz
Why isn't  Rosemary et,al..  screaming  all over the world about what 
happened to the senator?   This should be the BIG STORY in the news all 
across the nation regardless of how popular this candidate is, (I personally 
have never heard of him).  Also consider he made this batch of cs himself 
because everybody is advertising over the net about  how easy it is to make 
(like it dosent't take a rocket scientist to do it,  i think it does take a 
little scientific ingenuity)  he probably just jumped right on the band wagon,  
no one ever mentiones how much he ingested.  I would never try to make cs 
myself i buy mine off the net from only one particular distributor i found to 
be the most reputable and follow the guidlines that come with my purchace.   

thank you


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CSBatteries of Babylon

2002-10-05 Thread jrowland
...A 6-inch-high pot of bright yellow clay dating back two millennia
contained a cylinder of sheet-copper 5 inches by 1.5 inches. The edge of
the copper cylinder was soldered with a 60-40
lead-tin alloy comparable to today's solder... bottom of the cylinder
was capped with a crimped-in copper disk and sealed with bitumen or
asphalt.  Another insulating layer of asphalt sealed the top and also
held in place an iron rod suspended into the center of the copper
cylinder...not a chance arrangement---the clay pot was nothing less than
an ancient electric battery...
http://fly.to/hollowearth
(follow link at bottom of ~Amazing Pictures! Hollow Earth Tribes
selection)
jr


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Re: CSshingles(Frangipani)

2002-10-05 Thread Waddle986
Ivan

As soon as I read the article I was searching for the sap and plant which I 
found in Florida and Hawaii. I don't think any sap is available commercially. 
According to the article, shelf life is only 10 days. I thot I would buy a 
plant, cut a stem and use the sap.

Procrastinator that I am, before I could get my butt moving, the 2nd article 
clarifying Dr. Muthotho's work was posted. My hopes were dashed by the 
following excerpt:


Finally, the title of your article, Local cure for herpes found, was 
incorrect. The correct position is that there is no known cure for herpes 
zoster.

The herbal medicine only treats the external symptoms by relieving the pain 
and drying up the lesions.

Waddle

In a message dated 09/26/2002 2:11:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
i...@win.co.nz writes:

 There has to be the odd Frangipani in the neighbourhood that you can
 raid :-)
 
 Ivan.
 



CSCandidates uses tap water...

2002-10-05 Thread SilverMedicine.org
Greeting all:

An individual on another list spoke with the candidate in question.  The 
colloidal silver he made was disasterous, as thought:

He used tap water to create the colloidal silver, and ran the brew for an hour.

This readily explains why he contracted Argyria so quickly.

Kind Regards,

Jason

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:59 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFw: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates Skin


  Actually I believe the first place silver goes in to the fingernails and 
hair.  Thus I would expect his hair to be almost black, which it is not. 
  Marshall 

  Lynda Khula wrote: 

just saw the pictures on fox news why would his hair be orange looking 
would the silver change the color of his hair as well, the picture they are 
comparing it to has his hair grayLynda- Original Message - 
From: sol
To: silver-l...@eskimo.comsent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:20 PMSubject: 
Re: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates Skin
 The only photos in which he looks blue (to me) are the ones which look 
doctored, but also consider that he might be using makeup to conceal the 
blue(grey)? Or the photos in which he does not look blue could be re-colored or 
touched up. The possibilities are endless.paula compare this photo in 
marshall's post to the photo in reid harvey's post. looks like someone is using 
blue filters or something to misinform.jim 

 He doesn't look blue to me in that photo. 
Marshall 
  

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CSCS Tap Water

2002-10-05 Thread SilverMedicine.org
Diane/all:

There's nothing wrong with taking isolated silver and adding it tap water;
the issue in question would be whether tap water was used during production.
There are plenty of salts in the body to convert silver ions into silver
chloride.  Not adding CS to tapwater is not going to make one bit of
difference.  In fact, silver ions are not going to get out of the body as
ions, period.  At some point, most if not all ions will be converted to
salts or proteins, and perhaps reconverted to ions, then back to any number
of possible compounds.

To think anything else is nothing more or less than unclear thinking.  What
happens between point A ( drinking CS ) and point Z ( the silver either
exits the body in particulate/compound form or is deposited in the body in
particulate/compound form ) is the miracle of CS.

The point I've been trying to make for several years now is that not
everyone is at equal risk for Argyria.  Joe can take CS for thirty years and
have no problem.  Joe builds a website that says it is completely non-toxic,
add a pinch of salt in the production process because we are impatient...
Then, six people get Argyria between 5 and 15 years down the road.

I'm betting the candidate used salt in the production process, as he was not
even aware of the term Argyria...  Judging from the date, he probably used
Metcalf's instructions on CS generation ( or some derived from Metcalf's
work ).

Like I said on a post earlier this year, lawyers are already listing
colloidal silver as a topic for lawsuits.  Those manufacturers who do not
educate their customers on the risk because they don't feel the risk is
there may be getting some surprises down the road.  It's hard to know
because it is impossible to truly know how people are using products.

I've been working on some theoretical programs for quite awhile to reduce
the risk of Argyria This for those with terminal illness who for
whatever reason need to be on colloidal silver long term, taking amounts
exceeding eight ounces daily of 10PPM CS.

While on topic, I also have a problem with the SilverFacts page on this
issue, as the site simply plays the propaganda game on the other side of the
coin.

As far as whether or not cosmetic argyria is a real issue, I deal with
people on both sides of the coin... Those who could really care less, and
those who have a lot to lose as they make a living on their appearance.

I still do not believe that taking sane mounts of quality, isolated
colloidal silver places one at risk.  I keep my own silver intake well below
the EPA established guidelines for lifetime consumption of silver.

However, I would like to comment on one more issue:  By the time silver
starts to deposit in the skin, it will likely have already started
depositing in organs.  When the skin, fingernails, and hair start to show
signs of a condition, it is a warning that the elimination system is not
functioning properly.  Dehydration is probably the first place to look.  The
body's ph levels are likely a good second place to look.

Best Regards,

Jason



CSmore misinformation from a website

2002-10-05 Thread Connie
Stumbled across this website:


http://silcol.com/terms.html



What is Colloidal Silver?
Colloidal Silver is effective against more than 650 different
disease-causing pathogens. And no prescription is needed!
According to Capitol Drugs pharmacist Ron Barnes, R. ph.,, many strains of
pathogenic microbes viruses, fungi, bacteria or any other single-celled
pathogen resistant to other antibiotics are killed on contact by colloidal
silver, and are unable to mutate. However, it does not harm tissue-cell
enzymes and friendly bacteria. Inside the body, colloidal silver reacts only
with the germ's enzymatic system. He continues we have lots of fancy
antibiotics which can fight only six or so disease causing, bacteria and
similar microbes, whereas colloidal silver battles bacteria, some viruses,
and hundreds of single-celled organisms. It's non-toxic, non mutagenic,
non-cancerous. [Ref: Capitol Drugs  Creative Health vol. 4 No. 1]
'Colloid' is a substance in the form of submicroscopic particles that when
in solution or suspension do not settle out. [Ref. The New Merriam-Webster
Dictionary.] Colloidal Silver is pure, metallic microscopic silver particles
[not a compound] each with a positive electric charge pulled from a pure
silver electrode and suspended in water. It is tasteless, (except in higher
concentrations) odorless, and can vary in color from yellow, blue, gray,
green or brown. Colloidal Silver is a universal germicide. It is absolutely
nontoxic (except to one-celled plants and animals), and nonaddicting.
Colloidal Silver is the remedy for all infections, even the non-apparent,
low-grade general body infections most people have. Parasites are also
killed, as they have an egg stage in their reproduction cycle, which is one
celled and therefore killed in six minutes or less. [Ref. P.34 Vol. 15 No.4
Health Consciousness]  Once in the body, the silver releases its bond in
search of stronger attachments in an effort to stabilize its charge. [Ref.
P.35 Perceptions. May/June 1996 Mark Metcalf.] These microscopic particles
can more easily penetrate and travel through out the body. [Ref.p.34
Healing Spiral, Perceptions, November/December 1995] 


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Re: CSCandidates uses tap water...

2002-10-05 Thread Paul Ladendorf

 SilverMedicine.org 
wrote:
An individual on another list spoke with the candidate in question.  The 
colloidal silver he made was disasterous, as thought.
Jason,
Did this person find out how much he was using?
Thanks,
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Re: CSCandidates uses tap water...

2002-10-05 Thread SilverMedicine.org
Paul:

There was no mention of it, but I shall enquire.

Also, I forgot to mention that the setup was a straight 3 volt batteries 
attached to silver wires; apparently no current limiting.

Best Regards,

Jason
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ladendorf 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCandidates uses tap water...


   SilverMedicine.org 

  wrote: 

  An individual on another list spoke with the candidate in question.  The 
colloidal silver he made was disasterous, as thought. 

  Jason, 

  Did this person find out how much he was using? 

  Thanks, 

  Paul





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Re: CSCandidate uses tap water...

2002-10-05 Thread SilverMedicine.org
Paul:

He drank eight ounces daily for about three years.

Jason
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ladendorf 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCandidates uses tap water...


   SilverMedicine.org 

  wrote: 

  An individual on another list spoke with the candidate in question.  The 
colloidal silver he made was disasterous, as thought. 

  Jason, 

  Did this person find out how much he was using? 

  Thanks, 

  Paul





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Re: CSRe: the blue senator

2002-10-05 Thread d.linen
I cringe every time I've heard Wayne Green on Art Bell's show say to put
a pinch of salt to get the cs started. 

Diane

Ode Coyote wrote:
 
  He's a 'Libertarian' candidate.
  Elections are notorious for playing dirty tricks and using massive
 distortion of the opponants either directly or by hiring third parties.
 Here in NC, Helms threatened the black population with tax audits and such
 if they registered to vote..  Big scandal and plausable deniability for
 Helms after campaign people get fired...after the election.
  Out of the loop?  Yea, right...but prove otherwise.
 \
  Don't believe anything having to do with a election...candidates do all
 sorts of things to each other even up to the point of being criminal. Law
 is about who gets away with what..not about right and wrong. [if it were
 about right and wrong, we'd need darned few laws and we'd be able to
 comprehend them]
  No misquotes? No bending of contexts?   Gimme a break!
 
  Has anyone emailed Stan for verification?
 Ken
 
 At 06:51 AM 10/4/02 -0400, you wrote:
 No one is questioning his honesty.  They are questioning if he is being used.
 It would not be far out for him to be used, in fact I would expect the drug
 cartel to try and use this any way they can, and they have the funds to do
 it.
 
  It is quite apparent the photos have been doctored. The question is by
 who and
 why?  Were the photos issued to the newpapers doctored, or did some of the
 news
 organizations decide he was not blue enough for a good story and shift the
 color, or is the newspaper photo department incompetent?
 
 Marshall
 
 Bill Missett wrote:
 
  Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy
  theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense.  Most media
  organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices.
 
  Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading
  to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news
  organization promoted it.   And for what gain?
 
  The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria.  He says he got it from
  drinking his own homemade CS.  Do you think he's inventing this claim and
  putting on blue makeup before each public appearance?   Nonsense.
 
  The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of
  argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure
  to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories.
 
  I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not
  going to further the CS cause at all.  This is all the FDA needs for
 further
  restrictions on CS.
 
  Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM
  Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator
 
   The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true.
  
   The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong,
  might
   be Arthur).  He is the grand spinmiester.  He staged the Town Hall
   campaign commercials for Richard Nixon.  These created the impression
 that
   citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the
   audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and
  they
   won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect.
  
   James-Osbourne: Holmes
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com]
   Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: CSRe: the blue senator
  
  
   Jones looks very healthy in the debate video.  I suppose that could be an
   excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen
  of
   the part in his hair look normal too.  The differences between the video
  and
   the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic.
  
   Laura
  
   
   James Allison wrote:
  
   Found the footage of the debate that was on TV...
  
   http://
   video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm
  
  
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CSRe: Legal to sell CS generators?

2002-10-05 Thread AgsilveragSl
Mark Metcalf states that the FDA has just made it illegal to manufacture and 
sell CS generators, but are not prosecuting people yet.  Is this true, and if 
so, would a disclaimer statement allow people to still sell their generators 
under current FDA regulations?


Re: CSRe: the blue senator

2002-10-05 Thread Ode Coyote
 He's a 'Libertarian' candidate.
 Elections are notorious for playing dirty tricks and using massive
distortion of the opponants either directly or by hiring third parties.
Here in NC, Helms threatened the black population with tax audits and such
if they registered to vote..  Big scandal and plausable deniability for
Helms after campaign people get fired...after the election.
 Out of the loop?  Yea, right...but prove otherwise.
\
 Don't believe anything having to do with a election...candidates do all
sorts of things to each other even up to the point of being criminal. Law
is about who gets away with what..not about right and wrong. [if it were
about right and wrong, we'd need darned few laws and we'd be able to
comprehend them]
 No misquotes? No bending of contexts?   Gimme a break!

 Has anyone emailed Stan for verification?
Ken


At 06:51 AM 10/4/02 -0400, you wrote:
No one is questioning his honesty.  They are questioning if he is being used.
It would not be far out for him to be used, in fact I would expect the drug
cartel to try and use this any way they can, and they have the funds to do
it.

 It is quite apparent the photos have been doctored. The question is by
who and
why?  Were the photos issued to the newpapers doctored, or did some of the
news
organizations decide he was not blue enough for a good story and shift the
color, or is the newspaper photo department incompetent?

Marshall

Bill Missett wrote:

 Speaking as a former daily newspaper editor, I think all the conspiracy
 theories about faking the candidate's argyria are nonsense.  Most media
 organizations have far too much integrity to engage in such practices.

 Such a patently phony conspiracy would and could easily be exposed, leading
 to huge embarassment and professional disgrace for whatever news
 organization promoted it.   And for what gain?

 The man obviously has, or thinks he has, argyria.  He says he got it from
 drinking his own homemade CS.  Do you think he's inventing this claim and
 putting on blue makeup before each public appearance?   Nonsense.

 The only way this could have been faked is if he had a pre-existing case of
 argyria, and was induced to run for public office to give negative exposure
 to CS, and that's about as far-fetched as the other conspiracy theories.

 I think the gentleman is honest, and is telling the truth, and it's not
 going to further the CS cause at all.  This is all the FDA needs for
further
 restrictions on CS.

 Rosemary Jacobs must be celebrating this turn of events.

 - Original Message -
 From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:54 AM
 Subject: RE: CSRe: the blue senator

  The following may be a bit garbled, but is fundamentally true.
 
  The head of Fox news is Roger Ales (phonetic, may be completely wrong,
 might
  be Arthur).  He is the grand spinmiester.  He staged the Town Hall
  campaign commercials for Richard Nixon.  These created the impression
that
  citizens were asking spontaneous questions of the candidate. In fact, the
  audience was hand picked. He says, Give them interesting pictures and
 they
  won't give a damn about the content or words to that effect.
 
  James-Osbourne: Holmes
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: samma...@aol.com [mailto:samma...@aol.com]
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSRe: the blue senator
 
 
  Jones looks very healthy in the debate video.  I suppose that could be an
  excellent make-up job, yet his hairline, scalp and even what can be seen
 of
  the part in his hair look normal too.  The differences between the video
 and
  the CNN/Fox photos are dramatic.
 
  Laura
 
  
  James Allison wrote:
 
  Found the footage of the debate that was on TV...
 
  http://
  video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/fdrive/c091602_mt.rm
 
 
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Re: CSSilver Chloride

2002-10-05 Thread Ode Coyote

  Isn't ammonia found in the blood?  Or is it made in the bladder or liver?
 Peeing sure oughta flush out any silver chloride that does get dissolved.

Silver Chloride also sheds some light on the notion that CS is light
sensitive...which it's not.

Ken

At 03:56 PM 10/4/02 -0400, you wrote:
Jeannie wrote:

 Marshall Dudley wrote:

  There is one sentence that I find very interesting:
 
  Crystals darken upon exposure to light and plastic
 
  I think we may have finally found why some people say that CS is
  unstable in plastic.  If you use salt to make it, then you are making
  silver chloride, and it apparently breaks down to chlorine and silver
  metal upon exposure to plastics.  Thus what has been said here for
  years, that properly made high quality CS is not affected by plastic now
  makes sense.
 
  Marshall

 Sounds reasonable.  Now does salt contacting the CS later, after it is made
 up, also cause silver chloride?  If so, what about taking it with gatorade?
 There is certainly salt in that?  Does that cause a problem?

From the tests some of us have run with CS and salt, it appears that
indeed the
ionic silver reacts with the chlorine producing AgCl. The most convincing
test
is to add salt to clear CS and observe the precipitation of something which
appears white or milky, and the clearing of this precipitant when ammonia is
added.  AgCl is white and is soluble in ammonia.

So I guess the problem is one of magnitude.  If you have 10 ppm of
CS/ionic, and
the ionic becomes silver chloride, you still only have about 8 or 9 ppm
max of
silver chloride.  If you make the cs with salted water, the amount of silver
chloride produced is only limited by how much salt is in the water,
although the
amount that can be dissolved is still only about 10 ppm or so.

But that begs the question.  How does silver chloride, which any in excess
of 12
or so ppm, must be undissolved, make it into the blood stream.  I think it
important to determine if perhaps silver chloride dissolves in HCl.  And
if not,
does blood contain anything that would increase the solubility?

We know how to easily produce a precipitant of AgCl, and how to see if it
dissolves in anything.  I have sulfuric acid, but not sure I have any
hydrochloric.  If I do, I will try to run that test over the weekend.  I will
also try it with baking soda, which is the primary base in the blood that
makes
the ph over 7.

Marshall


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Re: CSSilver Chloride

2002-10-05 Thread Ode Coyote


  Probably, continuing anything without a good reason to continue isn't a
great idea.
 I believe the idea behind CS is to enhance the immune system when it
becomes overloaded..not send it to the locker room.
 Everything needs some exercise to stay strong, but if it's working so hard
that it gets weak...well, give it a hand.

Ken




 At 07:47 PM 10/4/02 -0500, you wrote:
I guess my main concern is a very practical one.  Because of posts on this
list I
have been mixing a pint of my own CS in a gallon of gatorade, and drinking
3 qts or
so a day.  It did really seem to help me not to get sick when my whole
family was
down.  But I'm wondering if continuing to do that might be less than the
best way to
take it.

Jeannie

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 Jeannie wrote:

  Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
   There is one sentence that I find very interesting:
  
   Crystals darken upon exposure to light and plastic
  
   I think we may have finally found why some people say that CS is
   unstable in plastic.  If you use salt to make it, then you are making
   silver chloride, and it apparently breaks down to chlorine and silver
   metal upon exposure to plastics.  Thus what has been said here for
   years, that properly made high quality CS is not affected by plastic
now
   makes sense.
  
   Marshall
 
  Sounds reasonable.  Now does salt contacting the CS later, after it is
made
  up, also cause silver chloride?  If so, what about taking it with
gatorade?
  There is certainly salt in that?  Does that cause a problem?

 From the tests some of us have run with CS and salt, it appears that
indeed the
 ionic silver reacts with the chlorine producing AgCl. The most
convincing test
 is to add salt to clear CS and observe the precipitation of something which
 appears white or milky, and the clearing of this precipitant when
ammonia is
 added.  AgCl is white and is soluble in ammonia.

 So I guess the problem is one of magnitude.  If you have 10 ppm of
CS/ionic, and
 the ionic becomes silver chloride, you still only have about 8 or 9 ppm
max of
 silver chloride.  If you make the cs with salted water, the amount of
silver
 chloride produced is only limited by how much salt is in the water,
although the
 amount that can be dissolved is still only about 10 ppm or so.

 But that begs the question.  How does silver chloride, which any in
excess of 12
 or so ppm, must be undissolved, make it into the blood stream.  I think it
 important to determine if perhaps silver chloride dissolves in HCl.  And
if not,
 does blood contain anything that would increase the solubility?

 We know how to easily produce a precipitant of AgCl, and how to see if it
 dissolves in anything.  I have sulfuric acid, but not sure I have any
 hydrochloric.  If I do, I will try to run that test over the weekend.  I
will
 also try it with baking soda, which is the primary base in the blood
that makes
 the ph over 7.

 Marshall

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Re: CSCandidates uses tap water...

2002-10-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
No doubt about it, he probably had no CS in there at all, probably
mostly silver carbonate, and lots of it.

Marshall

SilverMedicine.org wrote:

  Greeting all: An individual on another list spoke with the candidate
 in question.  The colloidal silver he made was disasterous, as
 thought: He used tap water to create the colloidal silver, and ran the
 brew for an hour. This readily explains why he contracted Argyria so
 quickly. Kind Regards, Jason

  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:59 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFw: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates
  Skin
   Actually I believe the first place silver goes in to the
  fingernails and hair.  Thus I would expect his hair to be
  almost black, which it is not.

  Marshall

  Lynda Khula wrote:

  just saw the pictures on fox news why would his hair be
  orange looking would the silver change the color of his
  hair as well, the picture they are comparing it to has his
  hair grayLynda- Original Message -
  From: sol
  To: silver-l...@eskimo.comsent: Thursday, October 03, 2002
  6:20 PMSubject: Re: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates
  Skin
   The only photos in which he looks blue (to me) are the
  ones which look doctored, but also consider that he might
  be using makeup to conceal the blue(grey)? Or the photos
  in which he does not look blue could be re-colored or
  touched up. The possibilities are endless.paula
  compare this photo in marshall's post to the photo in reid
  harvey's post. looks like someone is using blue filters or
  something to misinform.jim
 
 
 He doesn't look blue to me in that
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Re: CSCandidate uses tap water...

2002-10-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
Gosh, with that much and that setup, I wonder why it took so long.

Marshall

SilverMedicine.org wrote:

 Paul: He drank eight ounces daily for about three years. Jason

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  Subject: Re: CSCandidates uses tap water...
SilverMedicine.org

  wrote:

  An individual on another list spoke with the candidate in
  question.  The colloidal silver he made was disasterous, as
  thought.

  Jason,

  Did this person find out how much he was using?

  Thanks,

  Paul


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Re: CSmore misinformation from a website

2002-10-05 Thread Bill Missett
CS is homeopathic in nature, and does kill parasites.  Next?

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From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: CSmore misinformation from a website


 Calling it homeopathicstating it kills parasitesthose are the two
 that jumped out at me.

  From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com
  Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:12:32 -0700
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSmore misinformation from a website
  Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:12:37 -0700
 
 
 
  From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net
 
  Subject: CSmore misinformation from a website
 
  Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:35:01 -0700
 
  Stumbled across this website:
 
 
  http://silcol.com/terms.html
 
  What is Colloidal Silver?
  Colloidal Silver is effective against more than 650 different
  disease-causing pathogens. And no prescription is needed!
  *
  Hi Connie,
  your post was labeled  more misinformation from a website .
 
  The only misinformation  that you might have been referring
  to, that I saw,  might be the  650 diseases.  The rest seemed to be
  the standard info about CS that I have read both here and at
  other recognized  accepted sites on the web.
 
  What specifically were you referring to?
 
  Jack
 
 
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Re: CSmore misinformation from a website

2002-10-05 Thread Jack Dayton


 From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net

 Subject: CSmore misinformation from a website

 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:35:01 -0700
 
 Stumbled across this website:
 
 
 http://silcol.com/terms.html

 What is Colloidal Silver?
 Colloidal Silver is effective against more than 650 different
 disease-causing pathogens. And no prescription is needed!
*
Hi Connie,
your post was labeled  more misinformation from a website .

The only misinformation  that you might have been referring
to, that I saw,  might be the  650 diseases.  The rest seemed to be
the standard info about CS that I have read both here and at
other recognized  accepted sites on the web.

What specifically were you referring to?

Jack


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Re: CSRe: CS and protazoas

2002-10-05 Thread dblack
No, CS will not eliminate cocci.  You have to get albon from your vet.
Takes at least 5 days of treatment, but will get rid of it.
Nancy
Nanack Maltese
Longwood, Fl.


 Can Colloidal Silver kill protazoas?  I used CS on my chicken's feet to
 cure her bumblefoot with great results (mixed it with dmso for
 penetration).   I just rescued some baby chicks and I think they have
 cocci, a protazoa that infects their intestines/cecal pouch and caused
 bleeding and sometimes death.  The bloody stools started yesterday.

 I've started giving them CS in their water and also mixed in their food.
 Does anyone know if this will help them?

 Thanks,
 Christine








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Re: CSmore misinformation from a website

2002-10-05 Thread Acmeair
connie did not mention 650 diseases . she stated 650 different
disease-causing pathogens, and i do believe this is a quote from bob beck.
but i do agree with jack, what is the misinformation in connie's post?

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSmore misinformation from a website




  From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net

  Subject: CSmore misinformation from a website

  Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:35:01 -0700
 
  Stumbled across this website:
 
 
  http://silcol.com/terms.html

  What is Colloidal Silver?
  Colloidal Silver is effective against more than 650 different
  disease-causing pathogens. And no prescription is needed!
 *
 Hi Connie,
 your post was labeled  more misinformation from a website .

 The only misinformation  that you might have been referring
 to, that I saw,  might be the  650 diseases.  The rest seemed to be
 the standard info about CS that I have read both here and at
 other recognized  accepted sites on the web.

 What specifically were you referring to?

 Jack


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Re: CSOT BLUE BOY

2002-10-05 Thread Jack Dayton


 From: la...@webtv.net (larry tankersley)
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:42:43 -0400 (EDT)
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSOT BLUE BOY
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:42:47 -0700
 
 ...the best way a libertarian might ever get elected,
in a plutocracy, is to get folks to feel sorry for him/them.
Lord knows they have tried commom sense long enough.
*
But if a Liberterian were to eschew common sense,
would he still be a Liberterian?

Jack


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Re: CSmore misinformation from a website

2002-10-05 Thread Connie
Calling it homeopathicstating it kills parasitesthose are the two
that jumped out at me.

 From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:12:32 -0700
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSmore misinformation from a website
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:12:37 -0700
 
 
 
 From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net
 
 Subject: CSmore misinformation from a website
 
 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:35:01 -0700
 
 Stumbled across this website:
 
 
 http://silcol.com/terms.html
 
 What is Colloidal Silver?
 Colloidal Silver is effective against more than 650 different
 disease-causing pathogens. And no prescription is needed!
 *
 Hi Connie,
 your post was labeled  more misinformation from a website .
 
 The only misinformation  that you might have been referring
 to, that I saw,  might be the  650 diseases.  The rest seemed to be
 the standard info about CS that I have read both here and at
 other recognized  accepted sites on the web.
 
 What specifically were you referring to?
 
 Jack
 
 
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Re: CSCS and homeopathic remedies???

2002-10-05 Thread sol
Thanks, any info is appreciated, as I do not have access to a homeopath, nor
for that matter is there a naturpath or osteopath here, or even withing
reasonable driving distance--- but we do have chiropractors up the
yinyang
I am limited to my homeopathy books and what I can find out online.
paula
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 Your homeopath will have her/his own preference on that.
 A classical homeopath would prefer that you not do CS
 while under homeopathic treatment.  It could cloud the picture.




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Re: CSRe: the blue senator

2002-10-05 Thread sol

 No one is questioning his honesty.
Well why the hell not? He's a politician for goodness sake!
paula



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CSQuestions for the canidate

2002-10-05 Thread Ron
1. What research did you do before you decided to ingest colloidal silver (CS). 
Please name websites, books or people spoken to.  Approximate dates.


2. You mentioned the Y2K, what other measures did you take besides colloidal 
silver with regard to this.


3. Did you purchase any prepared CS from any sources before deciding to make 
your own. If so, where and when, and what was the manufacturer. Did you ingest 
any.


4. Please explain your process to make your own CS. What resource did you use 
for the procedure.


5. Where and when did you purchase the silver to make your CS. What type was it.


6. Where and when did you purchase the water to make your CS. What type was it.


7. Please include the time frame in which you consumed the CS.


8. Can you describe the taste of the CS you made.


9. Can you describe the appearance of the CS you made., i.e. color.


10. Did you ever, or any third party, have your CS tested, in any fashion.


11. Of the CS you made, did anyone else ingest it besides yourself, such as any 
family or friends.


12. What was the approximate date you noticed a change in skin color. Describe 
the color.


13. Did you notice any other effects to your body after ingesting CS.


14. Do you know anybody else that has consumed CS.


15. Were you on any type of prescription drugs while ingesting CS.


16. Did you consult a physician about your skin condition.


17. --- FEEL FREE TO ADD QUESTIONS  ..

Mike, as moderator of this list, perhaps it would be proper for you to fire off 
an e-mail to him.






Re: CSmore misinformation from a website

2002-10-05 Thread C Creel
Dear Bill,

  You said:

CS is homeopathic in nature...



   Homeopathy requires that a substance be made a certain
way in order to be homeopathic.  Specifically, a substance made homeopathic
is diluted according to a set homeopathic formula, and succussed (shaken a 
specific number of times related to the potency being made) each step
of the way.  It is in this latter step that homeopathy defines itself.  


  There is not a homeopath in the world who would call CS a homeopathic
product.

Regards,
Catherine


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Re: CSRe: the blue senator

2002-10-05 Thread Jack Dayton
I agree Jim, some competitor did a number on him.
I am amazed that some stringer was dumb enough
to send that smear out over the wires w/o at least
trying to verify that rather obvious tampering.

Jack



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Re: CSSilver Facts: hints at CS in drinking water Argria and Stan Jones

2002-10-05 Thread Jack Dayton


From: Paul Ladendorf paulldn...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: CSSilver Facts: hints at CS in drinking water  Argria and Stan
Jones

Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:05:19 -0700

The water I drink (i.e. my drinking water) is distilled water. If he is
into health I doubt that he drank tap water. Who knows though.
***
There is nothing wrong with tap water as long as it is
run thru a good solid carbon block filter.
They really do an excellent job of cleaning out the crud.

Jack 


Re: CSRe: the blue senator

2002-10-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
Because he is a libertarian?

Marshall

sol wrote:

  No one is questioning his honesty.
 Well why the hell not? He's a politician for goodness sake!
 paula

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CSStan Jones e-mail address

2002-10-05 Thread Ron
Stan Jones e-mail address:

stanjo...@montana.com


USPS

Stan Jones
P.O. Box 6202
Bozeman, MT. 59771

406 522-8546


CSIs it blue or is it gray?

2002-10-05 Thread Reid Harvey
CSers,
Personally I'm still having a problem with the accounting of the blue
candidate.  For one thing, in most of the other stories of those few
individuals who have argyria their coloring is described as GRAY, or
perhaps gray with a hint of blue.  Here we seem to have a real blue
BLUE.  Could it be that as with other middle aged men he has some
not-uncommon coloration around the nose?  Perhaps a small concentration
of vericose veins, or the like.  When asked what this was perhaps it was
easiest to associate it with the silver.

Most of us may know that silver was used as the first emulsion in black
and white photography, that in different concentrations this accounted
for the pale grays to the blacks in the images.  It seems to me this
would be what's going on in the body.  So what would make the candidate
BLUE?  I for one thing there should be a closer investigation.
Reid

Jason said:
Greeting all:

An individual on another list spoke with the candidate in question.  The
colloidal silver he made was disasterous, as
thought:

He used tap water to create the colloidal silver, and ran the brew for
an hour.

This readily explains why he contracted Argyria so quickly.

Kind Regards,

Jason



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