Re: CS>Re where we are from
Roy Thompson Charleston, WV - Original Message - From: "Bill Missett" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re where we are from > For those who are posting their home nations to this list, I am keeping a > separate running list of all names and countries, which I will post when we > complete it. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Marshalee Hallett, in Provo, Utah, USA, until I graduate from BYU in April... Hometown is Napa, California; place of birth, Pocatello, Idaho.
Re: CS>Re where we are from
julie martin cleburne, texas
CS>Re: blue candidate
Hank writes: > Hum How much is Tom paid to say this? > Probably the same as your HTML message footers... jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Robb Allen Wilmington Ohio - Original Message - From: Donna Streinz To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re where we are from > Donna Streinz > New Haven, Connecticut U.S.A. > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re where we are from
on 17/10/2002 2:38 PM, ol...@aol.com at ol...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/16/2002 10:39:47 AM Central Daylight Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: For those who are posting their home nations to this list, I am keeping a separate running list of all names and countries, which I will post when we complete it. But, wouldn't be nice also to have 'real and full names' and e-mail addresses!? Would that be giving too much info??? Thom Good idea Thom. Roger Barker, Rotorua thermal area, New Zealand. rbar...@orcon.net.nz
Re: CS>what countries we on the list our from
3. Chicago, Il Nancy DeLise - Original Message - From: "Reid Harvey" To: "silver list" Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: CS>what countries we on the list our from > Bill, > I'm adding my name to yours since this is easy enough to do. Also I may > be the only one who lives in Nepal: > 1. Mexico, Bill Missett > 2. Nepal, Reid Harvey > Now there are people from two countries! (joke) > Reid > > Bill Missett said: > Mike: > > Do you know how many nations are represented on the Silver List? If > not, > can we take a poll to find out where we are from, in terms of nation of > residence? Or is that considered intruding. > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re where we are from
Westchester County, New York , USA - Jannette Abel
CS>Testimonies
I'm looking for testimonies from people who have used cs or websites that list them. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Paul - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
CS>Production Improvement Progress Report and Inquiry (PIPRI)
In the Age of Anacronym Thank you all who respondeed afew weeks prior regarding the Model CS-300 and Hepatitis C input...much appriciated. I have progressed since purchasing (unfortunatley) the CS-300 a couple years ago (too late to return) from not using it at all, to mud, to a clear or yelolow product w/o residue or apparent Ag compounds. First found good store bought distilled. Then found cheap, good distillationunit and ran my RO H20 through it. Next fish air bubbler. Instead of 8oz batch, increased to 1/2 gallon. This helped alot by increasing dispersion, decreasing current arc between electrodes. Then utilized the magnetic stirrer - much better than bubbler. Now I was cooking. The quality was good and controllable, and I was making more per batch. This is desirable since I wanted to take 8oz 2x day, a significant increase from 1-2oz/day. I have now been taking the silver for 10 months. Since I have been doing a few other things to combat the HepC and the symptoms are up down on off, there are few real quantitative measures. However, my liver function tests recently came back normal for the first time in 8 years. And some symtoms are less. I even had a 4 week period of feeling good. I optimistaclly thought I had beat it for good, period. Well, not so... yet. patience, yes? So, now intrepid Ag and alt health experimenters I come to the well again. I would like to take my overpriced unit designed for 8oz, making 1/2 gallon and make 1 gal at a time quicker. At this time I have reduced my first set of electrodes to mere wisps. I would like to know at what point folks change electrodes. And what do the efficient producers (read cheapskates) do with the Ag wisps? I am now brewing an 8oz batch with Zapper 2 Plus unit that has a silver jack on it and leads. I have never used this unit for Ag production before. Anyone familiar w/ these? Since I am ready to change the electrodes and want to make a gallon in a batch, what suggestions are there for electrode length? I have 1/8" .999 wire. The unit has a designed .8" distance between electrodes. Though I wish the CS-300 had current regulation- it does have an amber (conductivity/current?), green and red indicator lights. How could I adapt the unit? Another thought I had and will try is to use the appliance current regulating X10 module. I bought some of this stuff before it went crazy with popups and emails. But the stuff is cool. I just haven't used it lately. But I took it out and loaded the software and tested the current variation. The X10 module will take the current from 2-25DCma at 6-100% settings. These settings can be made to reduce at specific times, and then shut off. Obviously it does not respond to the production variations in current. Any suggestions on time/current settings? Glenn, Oregon
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Tom & Mary McFadden--New Braunfels, Texas ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:51:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re where we are from Ralph Gerhardt Adkins Texas (near San Antonio) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour .<>
Re: CS>Where are we
I am also from Australia, Margaret. - Original Message - From: "Hanneke" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: CS>Where are we > And I'm from Australia > > Hanneke > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/02 > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/02
Re: CS>Re where we are from
In a message dated 10/16/2002 10:39:47 AM Central Daylight Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: > For those who are posting their home nations to this list, I am keeping a > separate running list of all names and countries, which I will post when we > complete it. > > But, wouldn't be nice also to have 'real and full names' and e-mail addresses!? Would that be giving too much info??? Thom
CS>Location
I'm from upstate NY near the Canadian border. Bill Hibernating in the North Country of NY "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Indium
You have to send me an email with your return address in the post or I can't spend the time trying to figure out your address. Just too busy to do detective work on headers, etc. Thanks in advance for helping out by doing that one little thing. Thanks Trem - Original Message - From: aka jhon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: Re: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium Trem, thanks in advance for the addresses... - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Re: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium Hi Neil, You can buy it already bottled and pay dearly or you can buy the sulphate and mix it into distilled water for a very small fraction of that cost which is what I do. You can buy 10 grams and have it delivered for about $80. If anyone wants the addresses for the bottled indium or my source for the sulphate you can contact me. It's not colloidal. It's a solution. The indium dissolves completely. Trem - Original Message - From: neilinthegar...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium Someone on this list mentioned a source for colloidal Indium. Could you post that again, please? (or email me privately at neilinthegar...@aol.com) Thanks so much Neil
Re: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium
Trem, thanks in advance for the addresses... - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Re: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium Hi Neil, You can buy it already bottled and pay dearly or you can buy the sulphate and mix it into distilled water for a very small fraction of that cost which is what I do. You can buy 10 grams and have it delivered for about $80. If anyone wants the addresses for the bottled indium or my source for the sulphate you can contact me. It's not colloidal. It's a solution. The indium dissolves completely. Trem - Original Message - From: neilinthegar...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium Someone on this list mentioned a source for colloidal Indium. Could you post that again, please? (or email me privately at neilinthegar...@aol.com) Thanks so much Neil
RE: CS>Re where we are from
Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA 95060 www.HappyHerbalist.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 10/15/2002
Re: CS>2nd question
Connie, You seem to be looking for info about the African Potato : http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/archive/display.var.509953.0.0.html Indi - Original Message - From: "Connie" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:45 PM Subject: Re: CS>2nd question No, this comes from way back, probably back when I first joined the list...98,99? I am pretty certain it was an african root plant, or a derivative from that. > From: Malcolm Stebbins > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:36:29 -0700 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>2nd question > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:36:31 -0700 > > Hi Connie, I remember discussion of Frangipani Rubra sap as a cure - or > perhaps > only symptomatic relief, the story changed in mid thread - for Herpes Zoster > shingles outbreaks. Is that what you had in the back of your mind? > > Connie wrote: > >> I remember way back a product that orginally was found in an African root >> plant (that is my memory of it), a type of potato plant? >> That has/had some great impact on immune system problems or diseases? >> The retail product is actually a synthesized version of the compound found >> in this ''plant''? >> All this from deep in my memory. >> I absolutely cannot recall what it is/was. >> Anyone recognize what I am talking about? >> Connie >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium
Hi Neil, You can buy it already bottled and pay dearly or you can buy the sulphate and mix it into distilled water for a very small fraction of that cost which is what I do. You can buy 10 grams and have it delivered for about $80. If anyone wants the addresses for the bottled indium or my source for the sulphate you can contact me. It's not colloidal. It's a solution. The indium dissolves completely. Trem - Original Message - From: neilinthegar...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: CS>OT: Colloidal Indium Someone on this list mentioned a source for colloidal Indium. Could you post that again, please? (or email me privately at neilinthegar...@aol.com) Thanks so much Neil
Re: CS>Re: Tom Kotynski - Thanks Bill
Reid: I don't believe Kotyski ever said that Jones "stumbled" --- (I may stand corrected on this, since I don't have the followup column to refer to) -- but rather he said this: "Anyway, when Jones took the platform it was apparent that something was wrong with him. I could hear people in the audience buzzing about it. He looked blue-gray. When standing near any of the other candidates his coloring disorder was even more pronounced. Many folks wondered if he might have circulatory problems serious enough that he might keel over during the debate." This was stated in his letter to me, responding to our questions, not in his column, which doesn't contain the detail he provides in his letter. This is audience speculation he is reporting, but I found no reference to stumbling in his letter or in the column itself: "Jones has a startling bluish-gray complexion that had folks wondering out > loud about his health. I wondered if his circulation might have been cut off and feared he might have a heart attack right there. > > "I'm healthy," Jones assured me after the gathering." More audience response being reported. I don't know where the "stumble" part comes in. I don't believe it was in the followup column, because that dealt primarily with the response to the first column. And Kotynski -- who saw the man eye to eye -- said he definitely looked blue/gray. Just for the record. Apology? You decide. However, some other points rang true. Namaskara, Bill - Original Message - From: "Reid Harvey" To: "silver list" Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: CS>Re: Tom Kotynski - Thanks Bill > Bill, > You being the point person with the reporters I'm not going to write to > them. To me there are still lingering questions about just what > happened when the various candidates appeared. But *I think it's > important for the followup story to note* that if Stan Jones appeared to > Tom Kotynski and others as if he was about to fall down, or have a heart > attack, this was probably not due to the silver-compound-brew he'd been > drinking. As Kotynski must know by now, what Stan was drinking was not > colloidal silver, Ag+. It's unfortunate that Kotynski did make some > very uncharitable and untrue remarks about CS and CS enthusiasts, and at > the event, in his thinking he may have linked the problem of blue skin > with some health problem, such as the candidate's stumbling, > about-to-have-a-heart-attack, etc. > > (On the other hand there's been some information on the list lately > about the relative toxicity of various silver compounds, that AgNO3, for > example is far worse than others. But some are saying the nitrate is > not so likely in Stan's brew, and just what sort of other malady could > be coming from such compounds?) > > At that appearance, with respect to the falling down or > about-to-have-heart-attack I would imagine predominantly *one* of > several possibilities: > > 1. Stan Jones may have some entirely different health problem that we > could not know about. This caused him to stumble. > 2. His blue gray appearance may have induced even the most objective in > that audience to attach great significance to Stan's every move. So a > slight wobble in the knee would become a stumble. > 3. The poor guy was stumbling because he was in a fish bowl. > > It's been a little confusing that subsequent to the story Stan Jones did > tell others on the list that his appearance is quite normal and the > photos were doctored. Could it be that he has a normal kind of > neurosis? Like 'I'm okay, you're okay.' Then there is the notion that > other news media that picked up the original story went on to doctor the > pictures. Or maybe they didn't like the colors with which their > particular press was inking. So in the end it could be true that Stan > is blue *and* the picture's colors were altered. > > I am imagining that when all is said and done, whether there may be 'an > investigation' by news media, medical professionals or some combination > thereof (more usual) that in a funny sort of way Stan Jones's case could > provide some useful indication that ionic silver is harmless. In a fair > and just world of objective editors, objective reporters, objective > press operators and objective readers this would be what would pull the > rug out from under the 'argument' of the CS detractors, but now I'm in > fairy land. > > Will somebody tell me why I feel the need to apologize for this > message? Suddenly what's going on is all too mind boggling. > Reid, yearning for the bygone days of black and white photography > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>CS & Bones
Adding a bit to this, I recall Becker describing a woodsman who had crushed his leg terribly. It was to be amputated but the patient refused. Gangrene was setting in. Becker, if I recall, used a sheet of silver and also the current, and was astounded by the results -- rapid healing of the bone and leg, which had seemed ruined beyond any healing. It's quite a remarkable and inspiring section. Becker claims that the use of silver in wounds goes back quite a long time before his studies; its not fresh in memory, but I believe he describes uses by British doctors in WWI. Remarkable and inspiring book. NB Becker's first mentor had has lab equipment tossed out on the street by the university. Science and academic politics are brutal. Malcolm Stebbins wrote: > > You might find the work of Dr. R. Becker applicable; pick up a copy of *The > Body > Electric* and look for the section in which he treated a bone infection that > had > persisted for two years in spite of all antibiotic treatments. The patient > had a > non-healing fracture and Dr. Becker inserted a silver wire into the hole left > by a > previous metal screw and plate that had failed, and using Extremely small > currents > caused the silver ions to migrate into the infected region of the bone. Ten > days > later,- no infection whatsoever! This is no job for an amateur; seems to me > you'd > need to find an orthopedic Dr. familiar with Dr. Becker's work. But it's not > rocket science, either. > Hope this helps; Malcolm > > MARIANO DELISE wrote: > > > Help everyone. My friend has been very willing to use CS, but his problem > > is a > > staph infection in his bone. CS can't get to this infection. Does anyone > > have > > a suggestion how he can get the CS to the staph infection?Nancy > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>what countries we on the list our from
Well, add one from Japan. Alas, perhaps none of us listed here are natives of the countries we "represent." Reid Harvey wrote: > > Bill, > I'm adding my name to yours since this is easy enough to do. Also I may > be the only one who lives in Nepal: > 1. Mexico, Bill Missett > 2. Nepal, Reid Harvey > Now there are people from two countries! (joke) > Reid > > Bill Missett said: > Mike: > > Do you know how many nations are represented on the Silver List? If > not, > can we take a poll to find out where we are from, in terms of nation of > residence? Or is that considered intruding. > > The reason I ask is because I think to achieve the stated goals which > are > now being floated around, my own included, we are going to have to think > in > terms of creating a CS organization to determine what we want to achieve > and > how we can best achieve it. That's step one. If created solely from > the > membership of Silver List alone, it would instantly be international in > nature. > > It would be nice to know how truly international the CS list membership > is > on any given day. That will be a good indicator of whether the idea is > feasible at all. > > I'm a US citizen living in Mexico, so I have a foot in both worlds. > > Bill Missett, Oaxaca, Mexico > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT: Colloidal Indium
Someone on this list mentioned a source for colloidal Indium. Could you post that again, please? (or email me privately at neilinthegar...@aol.com) Thanks so much Neil
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Alvin Rose, Marystown, Newfoundland Canada A0E-2MO > >
CS>Re: Tom Kotynski - Thanks Bill
Bill, You being the point person with the reporters I'm not going to write to them. To me there are still lingering questions about just what happened when the various candidates appeared. But *I think it's important for the followup story to note* that if Stan Jones appeared to Tom Kotynski and others as if he was about to fall down, or have a heart attack, this was probably not due to the silver-compound-brew he'd been drinking. As Kotynski must know by now, what Stan was drinking was not colloidal silver, Ag+. It's unfortunate that Kotynski did make some very uncharitable and untrue remarks about CS and CS enthusiasts, and at the event, in his thinking he may have linked the problem of blue skin with some health problem, such as the candidate's stumbling, about-to-have-a-heart-attack, etc. (On the other hand there's been some information on the list lately about the relative toxicity of various silver compounds, that AgNO3, for example is far worse than others. But some are saying the nitrate is not so likely in Stan's brew, and just what sort of other malady could be coming from such compounds?) At that appearance, with respect to the falling down or about-to-have-heart-attack I would imagine predominantly *one* of several possibilities: 1. Stan Jones may have some entirely different health problem that we could not know about. This caused him to stumble. 2. His blue gray appearance may have induced even the most objective in that audience to attach great significance to Stan's every move. So a slight wobble in the knee would become a stumble. 3. The poor guy was stumbling because he was in a fish bowl. It's been a little confusing that subsequent to the story Stan Jones did tell others on the list that his appearance is quite normal and the photos were doctored. Could it be that he has a normal kind of neurosis? Like 'I'm okay, you're okay.' Then there is the notion that other news media that picked up the original story went on to doctor the pictures. Or maybe they didn't like the colors with which their particular press was inking. So in the end it could be true that Stan is blue *and* the picture's colors were altered. I am imagining that when all is said and done, whether there may be 'an investigation' by news media, medical professionals or some combination thereof (more usual) that in a funny sort of way Stan Jones's case could provide some useful indication that ionic silver is harmless. In a fair and just world of objective editors, objective reporters, objective press operators and objective readers this would be what would pull the rug out from under the 'argument' of the CS detractors, but now I'm in fairy land. Will somebody tell me why I feel the need to apologize for this message? Suddenly what's going on is all too mind boggling. Reid, yearning for the bygone days of black and white photography -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Fwd: Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water
I didn't realize there was such a thing! Damn! Let your guard down for a second, and you learn something new! Chuck This mind intentionally left blank On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:38:52 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > However water from a magnetic softner is >fine on plants, in fact some experiments have shown that plants will grow >better >with that than the water before it gets restructered. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Where are we
And I'm from Australia Hanneke --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/02 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>2nd question
No, this comes from way back, probably back when I first joined the list...98,99? I am pretty certain it was an african root plant, or a derivative from that. > From: Malcolm Stebbins > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:36:29 -0700 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>2nd question > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:36:31 -0700 > > Hi Connie, I remember discussion of Frangipani Rubra sap as a cure - or > perhaps > only symptomatic relief, the story changed in mid thread - for Herpes Zoster > shingles outbreaks. Is that what you had in the back of your mind? > > Connie wrote: > >> I remember way back a product that orginally was found in an African root >> plant (that is my memory of it), a type of potato plant? >> That has/had some great impact on immune system problems or diseases? >> The retail product is actually a synthesized version of the compound found >> in this ''plant''? >> All this from deep in my memory. >> I absolutely cannot recall what it is/was. >> Anyone recognize what I am talking about? >> Connie >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>2nd question
Hi Connie, I remember discussion of Frangipani Rubra sap as a cure - or perhaps only symptomatic relief, the story changed in mid thread - for Herpes Zoster shingles outbreaks. Is that what you had in the back of your mind? Connie wrote: > I remember way back a product that orginally was found in an African root > plant (that is my memory of it), a type of potato plant? > That has/had some great impact on immune system problems or diseases? > The retail product is actually a synthesized version of the compound found > in this ''plant''? > All this from deep in my memory. > I absolutely cannot recall what it is/was. > Anyone recognize what I am talking about? > Connie > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Donna Streinz New Haven, Connecticut U.S.A. __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Fw: blue candidate
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kotynski" To: "Bill Missett" Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: blue candidate > Bill: > The photo that appeared in the Great Falls Tribune taken by John Liston > matched what I saw in person. Anyone wanting the photo would have to > contact him directly: tribph...@sofast.net. > > You and I both know that presses must be inked and that getting true color > is more an art than a science. I suspect that lots of newspapers color > correct and I'll bet that the so-called "normal" photos were color > corrected. > > He's that color. I suggest folks on the mailing list ask them himself. > > Any help for the story we plan should go to Richard Ecke, the Tribune's > health reporter: re...@greatfal.gannett.com. > > > I hope I answered you questions. > > Best wishes, > TomK > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: [CS>what countries we on the list our from]
John Wallis, NW Indiana, USA, but should be a country by itself. - Original Message - From: Hank Adams To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: CS>Re: [CS>what countries we on the list our from] Reid Harvey wrote: Bill, I'm adding my name to yours since this is easy enough to do. Also I may be the only one who lives in Nepal: 1. Mexico, Bill Missett 2. Nepal, Reid Harvey 3. Arkansas US Henry Adams Now there are people from two countries! (joke) Reid Bill Missett said: Mike: Do you know how many nations are represented on the Silver List? If not, can we take a poll to find out where we are from, in terms of nation of residence? Or is that considered intruding. The reason I ask is because I think to achieve the stated goals which are now being floated around, my own included, we are going to have to think in terms of creating a CS organization to determine what we want to achieve and how we can best achieve it. That's step one. If created solely from the membership of Silver List alone, it would instantly be international in nature. It would be nice to know how truly international the CS list membership is on any given day. That will be a good indicator of whether the idea is feasible at all. I'm a US citizen living in Mexico, so I have a foot in both worlds. Bill Missett, Oaxaca, Mexico -- Yours Hankhttp://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue71/wing2.html
Re: CS>silver allergies
Thanks Mike, but the question came from me...Connie . I will pass this info on. Thanks again! Connie > From: "M. G. Devour" > > Lynda asks: >> A friend and her daughter have silver allergy. >> Anyone have experience with CS and silver allergies? >> Is it really the other elements in silver, such as sterling silver, >> that cause the allergy? > > We had one mysterious case where a onetime list member took the first > dose of her home-made CS and had a frightening reaction that had all > the hallmarks of an allergic response bordering on anaphylactic shock. > Needless to say she immediately stopped taking any silver > preparations, on her doctor's advice, though she didn't need much > persuading. > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re where we are from
Ralph Gerhardt Adkins Texas (near San Antonio) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Where we are from
Thom Walters, Decatur, IL
Re: CS>silver allergies
Lynda asks: > A friend and her daughter have silver allergy. > Anyone have experience with CS and silver allergies? > Is it really the other elements in silver, such as sterling silver, > that cause the allergy? We had one mysterious case where a onetime list member took the first dose of her home-made CS and had a frightening reaction that had all the hallmarks of an allergic response bordering on anaphylactic shock. Needless to say she immediately stopped taking any silver preparations, on her doctor's advice, though she didn't need much persuading. The strange thing was she'd previously been using a commercial preparation that had been used by a number of list members at the time with good results, and that was supposedly stronger than what she made at home... We never did find out exactly what happened. My advice to anyone using CS for the first time, or changing brands, is to take an *extremely* small initial dose and wait an hour or two before taking any significant amount. Literally a few drops or a fraction of a teaspoon. Anyone who is known to have sensitivity to silver may want to steer completely clear, or at least be doubly cautious. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS Tap Water
Dear Jason: Sorry for the slow answer, too busy! I may have mislead you. I will try to clear up the misunderstanding. > So pray tell Jim - how are you stabilizing the reaction? The information about the "self limiting reaction" was with distilled water. > What kind of water is it that you are using? > From the conversation, my initial understanding is that it is tap water. > However, most tap water I've had experience with would test "off the chart" > on a PWT meter. > You give ending measurements at about 15 - 20 uS. > Am I to assume that the process you are using does in fact precipitate out > all dissolved solids? No. My "filtered" well water is about 80 uS. Initially the concentration drops to about 60 uS as "some" of the minerals are precipitated. Then it goes up as the silver ions are added. My question to you is; do you think it is safe to consume this "tap water" CS or is it "better" to distill some water, make CS and add it to the "dirty" tap water. Do you think harmful products will be created between the dissolved minerals and the silver ions? In an emergency with no distilled water available, I would think it would be better to add silver ions to the polluted water with this method than to drink the polluted water with no treatment. Yes? If so it would be interesting to see how long it takes make the unknown water safe. Stick the silver rods in a glass of water and wait 5 (?) minutes before drinking? Juergen P. (Jim) Meissner Check out my Website at www.MeissnerResearch.com Read about the benefits of the Brain State Synchronizer sounds for improving your life and health. - Original Message - From: SilverMedicine.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: Re: CS>CS Tap Water Jim: That's really interesting. In fact, fascinating. It's hard to argue with measured observations, so instead I'd like to ask a few questions! What kind of water is it that you are using? >From the conversation, my initial understanding is that it is tap water. However, most tap water I've had experience with would test "off the chart" on a PWT meter. You give ending measurements at about 15 - 20 uS. Am I to assume that the process you are using does in fact precipitate out all dissolved solids? Have you playing with magnets again? *j/k* The fact that the ionic portion of the CS levels off is not so surprising to me. Slowing the reaction down ( this is in regards to distilled water ) can increase the ionic content by reducing agglomeration, allowing one to achieve a higher concentration of silver ions through "proper hydration" of the ions ( for lack of a more suitable term ). However, the result of the measurement of silver ions stabilizing usually means that agglomeration is occuring, easily gauged by the laser. So pray tell Jim - how are you stablizing the reaction? As far as pool water goes, I can only guess at effective concentrations. Someone else may have more definitive data. I would start with a beginning concentration of .5 - 1 PPM and begin monitoring growth in the water. One shouldn't need anywhere near the end concentration needed to fight an infection in the human body, or as high as would be needed in a bacterial friendly environment ( such as waste ). If chlorine is being used in the water, the idea would be to taper it off. Of course, the greatest challenge is measuring everything, including the total silver concentration in the water and organism growth. I know that quite a few people simply gauge by lack of algae growth, but I'd be more comfortable with actual testing of the water at different stages. Kind Regards, Jason
CS>Re: where we are from
Christine Leonardtown, Maryland USA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: [CS>Fw: blue candidate]
Hum How much is Tom paid to say this? Hank Bill Missett wrote: - Original Message - From: "Bill Missett" To: "Tom Kotynski" Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: blue candidate > Tom: > > Thanks again for your prompt, forthright responses. > > I'm going to send out Richard Ecke's e-mail address to the list, and let > list members choose someone to provide the most accurate data possible to > him. I would also suggest he pose questions to the list > (Silver-list@eskimo.com) and let the most knowledgable members of the list > respond. > > Thanks again... > > Regards, Bill Missett > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Kotynski" > To: "Bill Missett" > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: blue candidate > > > > Bill: > > The photo that appeared in the Great Falls Tribune taken by John Liston > > matched what I saw in person. Anyone wanting the photo would have to > > contact him directly: tribph...@sofast.net. > > > > You and I both know that presses must be inked and that getting true color > > is more an art than a science. I suspect that lots of newspapers color > > correct and I'll bet that the so-called "normal" photos were color > > corrected. > > > > He's that color. I suggest folks on the mailing list ask them himself. > > > > Any help for the story we plan should go to Richard Ecke, the Tribune's > > health reporter: re...@greatfal.gannett.com. > > > > > > Anyway, I was trained by Clint Wilkinson and Bill Chapman. Clint was > > particularly my role model. Breaking in under him was quite tough. I > know > > Clint died in the late 70s, and I lost track of Bill. > > > > Small world. > > > > I hope I answered you questions. > > > > Best wishes, > > TomK > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Fw: blue candidate
- Original Message - From: "Bill Missett" To: "Tom Kotynski" Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: blue candidate > Tom: > > Thanks again for your prompt, forthright responses. > > I'm going to send out Richard Ecke's e-mail address to the list, and let > list members choose someone to provide the most accurate data possible to > him. I would also suggest he pose questions to the list > (Silver-list@eskimo.com) and let the most knowledgable members of the list > respond. > > Thanks again... > > Regards, Bill Missett > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Kotynski" > To: "Bill Missett" > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: blue candidate > > > > Bill: > > The photo that appeared in the Great Falls Tribune taken by John Liston > > matched what I saw in person. Anyone wanting the photo would have to > > contact him directly: tribph...@sofast.net. > > > > You and I both know that presses must be inked and that getting true color > > is more an art than a science. I suspect that lots of newspapers color > > correct and I'll bet that the so-called "normal" photos were color > > corrected. > > > > He's that color. I suggest folks on the mailing list ask them himself. > > > > Any help for the story we plan should go to Richard Ecke, the Tribune's > > health reporter: re...@greatfal.gannett.com. > > > > > > Anyway, I was trained by Clint Wilkinson and Bill Chapman. Clint was > > particularly my role model. Breaking in under him was quite tough. I > know > > Clint died in the late 70s, and I lost track of Bill. > > > > Small world. > > > > I hope I answered you questions. > > > > Best wishes, > > TomK > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS & Bones
on 17/10/2002 3:36 AM, James Osbourne, Holmes at a...@cybermesa.com wrote: A PHd Chemist told me several years ago there was no chemical reaction between CS and DMSO. Probably, the stability of the mixture will depend on the stability of the CS. James-Osbourne: Holmes Thanks James, thought this might be the case but wasn't sure. Cheers, Roger -Original Message- From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@orcon.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS & Bones Does anybody know if CS mixed with DMSO has a finite shelf life? Cheers, Roger on 16/10/2002 1:32 PM, James Osbourne, Holmes at a...@cybermesa.com wrote: Speculative suggestion: 50/50 by volume good CS with DMSO topically, depending on how deep "the bone". Also, just lots orally on an empty stomach, up to the point of digestive upset; constipation or diarrhea. Higher blood levels if the CS is consumed with Gatorade or Lactated Ringers solution with MSM. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS & Bones Help everyone. My friend has been very willing to use CS, but his problem is a staph infection in his bone. CS can't get to this infection. Does anyone have a suggestion how he can get the CS to the staph infection? Nancy
CS>2nd question
I remember way back a product that orginally was found in an African root plant (that is my memory of it), a type of potato plant? That has/had some great impact on immune system problems or diseases? The retail product is actually a synthesized version of the compound found in this ''plant''? All this from deep in my memory. I absolutely cannot recall what it is/was. Anyone recognize what I am talking about? Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>silver allergies
I have a couple questions. Don't remember seeing this addresses, at least not recently. A friend and her daughter have silver allergy. Anyone have experience with CS and silver allergies? Is it really the other elements in silver, such as sterling silver, that cause the allergy? Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Roger Barker. Rotorua, New Zealand
CS>where we are from
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CS>List Nationality
I am from Austria, Europe Heidrun Beer I am from England, Not Europe *grins* Rod Stevenson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: blue candidate
Tom: I've also been advised by the Silver List moderator that the list currently has about 420-440 members, not "about 200" as I informed you. Regards, Bill Missett - Original Message - From: "Tom Kotynski" To: "Bill Missett" Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: blue candidate > Bill: > Boy, was I surprised at the attention my column received. > As an experienced political journalist, I'm always included on journalist > panels that ask questions of candidates during debates (I've covered Montana > political campaigns for the past 30 years at the Great Falls Tribune as a > reporter or editor). > Anyway, when Jones took the platform it was apparent that something was > wrong with him. I could hear people in the audience buzzing about it. He > looked blue-gray. When standing near any of the other candidates his > coloring disorder was even more pronounced. Many folks wondered if he might > have circulatory problems serious enough that he might keel over during the > debate. > Anyway, I wasn't writing the debate, but I was so curious about Jones' looks > that I decided to approach him afterward. As I made my way toward the > candidate several folks in the audience came up to me and asked what was > wrong with him, and said I should ask him. I told the folks to follow me and > they'd get their answer in person. They did. That's when he explained he > had "overdosed." > It didn't seem that any of the reporters present were pursuing the story > about his looks, so I decided I'd put it in my weekly column that appeared > the following Monday. I even contacted Jones for some elaboration, which he > gave me in a telephone interview. It was top of three items I used that > week. > > When it ran the Associated Press in Helena picked it up, and in turn it was > picked up by AP in New York City and put on the "A" wire and circulated > worldwide. > > As to the photo. It was a single shot taken at the debate. It was taken by > our photo chief, John Liston, who can verify that the photo used in the > Great Falls Tribune was what he saw. It reflected Jones' blue-gray > appearance. It was transmitted to AP, as per AP request. What other > newspapers did with it, I don't know. > > I can tell you that in addition to his face, you can see the "blue" or > almost purple hue underneath his fingernails. The man has a very noticeable > skin discoloration. > > Jones has never disputed the contents of my column or the Liston photo. He's > had plenty of opportunity to do so. He met with a Tribune editor only last > week, and just mentioned the extensive coverage. > > He told me for my column that incumbent U.S. Sen. Max Baucus had at one > point asked him what was the matter with him in another public appearance. > > We're going to follow with an in-depth story on colloidal silver and > argyria. I hope we can count on your insights for that story. Reporter > Richard Ecke is working that story. > > Incidentally, I started in this business with the former Hammond Times and > do know Richard High, who had been a reporter at The Times when I began. I > know that he later worked for Casper and Twin Falls. Did you know that Lee > Newspapers bought all three papers? > > Following is the part of my column that dealt with the Jones skin condition. > > Sincerely, > > Tom Kotynski > associate editor > Great Falls Tribune > > Talk of the town > > Senate candidate sports a ‘healthy’ shade of blue > > Good morning, Great Falls! > > There may have been bigger-name draws at last week’s U.S. Senate debate at > the Civic Center, but the crowd’s eyes were on Libertarian candidate Stan > Jones. > > Jones has a startling bluish-gray complexion that had folks wondering out > loud about his health. I wondered if his circulation might have been cut off > and feared he might have a heart attack right there. > > “I’m healthy,” Jones assured me after the gathering. > > Ironically, his skin coloration is because Jones is “into health.” He says > his skin is that color from taking colloidal silver, a natural > anti-bacterial of pure silver. > > Unfortunately, he has taken too much — “overdosed” — which has resulted in > this permanent skin condition, also known as argyria. He isn’t familiar with > the term. > > He started taking the supplement in 1999 in anticipation of Y2K, in the > event that such remedies might be in short supply in the wake of an > anticipated worldwide computer disruption. He made his own dietary > supplement by electrically charging a couple of silver wires in a glass of > water. The charge created particles that he mixed with his drinking water. > > His skin began changing color a year ago. Even the skin under his > fingernails are the blue-gray hue. “People in church noticed it and then > people around the community,” said the Bozeman resident. This year, even his > opponent, incumbent U.S. Sen. Max Baucus, asked him about it. > > “People ask me if it’s permanent and if I’m dead,” he said. “I tell
Re: CS>TO; Tom Kotynski - Thanks, Bill
Thank you - for a job well done. :0) Indi - Original Message - From: "Bill Missett" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: CS>TO; Tom Kotynski Tom: I've designated myself to communicate with you regarding the case of Stan Jones, Libertarian candidate for Senator from Montana, who has a self-induced skin condition known as argyria. For the record, I am a retired U.S. daily newspaper editor -- Oceanside, CA North County Times from 1968-92.(I served as state editor of the Star-Tribune in Casper, Wyo. from 1965-7, close to your neck of the woods.) I am also a daily consumer of colloidal silver (CS) which is the substance which caused Jones' skin condition, and have been for almost six years. I have been researching it for five years, because of its history, and the effort to suppress knowledge of it by the FDA, and the pharmaceutical cartels. (I won't go into the history of CS or details of it here, but will if you want.) I am a member of an internet group known as the Silver List (silver-list@eskimo.com) where about 200 folks from all over the world exchange information about it, and how it is best made and best used. Members of the list, including myself, are upset about this negative information about CS being so widely disseminated by the U.S. news media because it gives the FDA more ammunition with which to suppress CS. There has been a good deal of traffic on our list in the last two weeks about the article, and the accompanying photos. We feel there has been intentional manipulation of the color balance of the Jones photo which was distributed with the article. We have viewed other recent photos of Jones, and he appears pink and healthy instead of sickly blue-gray. We don't think you are the source of all of it, but since you are the origin of it, I'm communicating with you. I was unable to read your original article, which was off-post by the time we received your weblink, but did read the second item. Hence, I do not know if your newspaper printed the very blue photo of Jones, or whether it came from some other news source in Montana. Can you provide us with your insight into this situation, how your column it em was picked up and distributed nationally. and provide us with your knowledge of the source of the very blue mugshot of Jones which accompanied the article on AP? Also, since you must have had personal contact with Jones, can you tell us how he appeared to you, in person, as compared to the blue photo? He appears normal and healthy in all other photos we have seen. There has been much finger-pointing on our CS list accusing the media of perpetrating a "hoax" by purposely distributing a doctored photo made to appear much bluer than Jones appears in all other recent photos. Based on my 30 years of daily newspaper experience, much of it involving photography, I have to agree. That blue photo looks doctored. As the only former media person on the CS list, I've had to bear much media-bashing over this, and we want to get to the bottom of it. FYI, Jones has provided us with information which indicates he broke several cardinal rules about the preparation of CS -- namely using high-mineral content tap water, and an improper battery arrangement. Had he followed the standard OP, it would be highly unlikely that he would have contracted argyria. Properly produced CS is safe to use, does not cause arygria, (which is NOT dangerous, just unslightly) and is the cheapest, most effective anti-bacterial substance on the planet, better than any antibiotic. And most importantly, CS does not cause bacteria to mutate into resistant forms. CS kills all bacteria, very quickly and extremely cheaply. That's why the pharmaceutical cartels and the FDA don't want knowledge of CS to become widespread. Please respond when you have time, and provide us all the data possible. You can respond directly to me: miss...@prodigy.net.mx or to the silver-list@eskimo.com . Many thanks for your time, and we'll be looking forward to hearing your response. Regards, Bill Missett Oaxaca, Mexico -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Where I am From
Bob Medwith from Harrison Twp, Mi
Re: CS>Re: blue candidate
Good letter and good response. Will be interesting to see the follow-up
article, hopefully with unbiased, unsensational information.
Nancy Estes
dog...@apex2000.net
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Missett"
To: "Tom Kotynski"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: CS>Re: blue candidate
Tom:
Thanks for your time, and your explanation of the situation. Your version
sounds reasonable, well-balanced, and fair. We don't have any suspicions
about your reportage, just the photo which we've seen.
Did your photo of Jones, as used, appear strongly blue? I know you can't
compare it to all others across the country. Maybe I can get a version of it
posted again, and forward it to you for comparison. I don't have the source
at my fingertips, but I'm sure someone on the list does.
(Incidentally, we have common roots. I served for two intense years
('64-'66) at the Hammond Times under Bill Chapman (ex-Detroit Free Press)
and Clint Wilkinson (ex-Chicago Sun Times) working as rewrite, features and
investigative reporter. Wow, what an education. I know Dick High well --
he is now publisher of the North County Times, my old newspaper which had
other names when I worked for it. And it is my understanding that Lee
bought all 20 of the Howard Publications papers for $794 million.)
I think it may be best if some other hands on the Silver List jumped in here
and provided you with their expertise on CS. I can provide a lot of info,
but they are more scientific than I, and can provide you with more than one
source for information.
We'll get back to you soon. Thanks again!
Regards, Bill Missett
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kotynski"
To: "Bill Missett"
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:26 PM
Subject: blue candidate
> Bill:
> Boy, was I surprised at the attention my column received.
> As an experienced political journalist, I'm always included on journalist
> panels that ask questions of candidates during debates (I've covered
Montana
> political campaigns for the past 30 years at the Great Falls Tribune as a
> reporter or editor).
> Anyway, when Jones took the platform it was apparent that something was
> wrong with him. I could hear people in the audience buzzing about it. He
> looked blue-gray. When standing near any of the other candidates his
> coloring disorder was even more pronounced. Many folks wondered if he
might
> have circulatory problems serious enough that he might keel over during
the
> debate.
> Anyway, I wasn't writing the debate, but I was so curious about Jones'
looks
> that I decided to approach him afterward. As I made my way toward the
> candidate several folks in the audience came up to me and asked what was
> wrong with him, and said I should ask him. I told the folks to follow me
and
> they'd get their answer in person. They did. That's when he explained he
> had "overdosed."
> It didn't seem that any of the reporters present were pursuing the story
> about his looks, so I decided I'd put it in my weekly column that appeared
> the following Monday. I even contacted Jones for some elaboration, which
he
> gave me in a telephone interview. It was top of three items I used that
> week.
>
> When it ran the Associated Press in Helena picked it up, and in turn it
was
> picked up by AP in New York City and put on the "A" wire and circulated
> worldwide.
>
> As to the photo. It was a single shot taken at the debate. It was taken
by
> our photo chief, John Liston, who can verify that the photo used in the
> Great Falls Tribune was what he saw. It reflected Jones' blue-gray
> appearance. It was transmitted to AP, as per AP request. What other
> newspapers did with it, I don't know.
>
> I can tell you that in addition to his face, you can see the "blue" or
> almost purple hue underneath his fingernails. The man has a very
noticeable
> skin discoloration.
>
> Jones has never disputed the contents of my column or the Liston photo.
He's
> had plenty of opportunity to do so. He met with a Tribune editor only last
> week, and just mentioned the extensive coverage.
>
> He told me for my column that incumbent U.S. Sen. Max Baucus had at one
> point asked him what was the matter with him in another public appearance.
>
> We're going to follow with an in-depth story on colloidal silver and
> argyria. I hope we can count on your insights for that story. Reporter
> Richard Ecke is working that story.
>
> Incidentally, I started in this business with the former Hammond Times and
> do know Richard High, who had been a reporter at The Times when I began.
I
> know that he later worked for Casper and Twin Falls. Did you know that
Lee
> Newspapers bought all three papers?
>
> Following is the part of my column that dealt with the Jones skin
condition.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tom Kotynski
> associate editor
> Great Falls Tribune
>
> Talk of the town
>
> Senate candidate sports a ‘healthy’ shade of blue
>
> Good morning, Great Falls!
>
> There may have been bigger
Re: CS>TO; Tom Kotynski
> Connie writes: > > > Are there really only 200 members here? I would have guessed many > > more than that? > > The list population hovers in the range of 420 to 440 people these > days. There were 113 on it when I took over in '97. > > As in all such forums, most do not post. Many lurk quietly. Some, I'm > sure, just let it pile up in their mail folders and delete it from time > to time, unread. We're here when they need us. > I've only posted once; usually just read and store useful info. Nancy Estes dog...@apex2000.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Fwd: Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water
The chlorine in salt is toxic to plants. That is why the water from ion type softners should never be used on plants. However water from a magnetic softner is fine on plants, in fact some experiments have shown that plants will grow better with that than the water before it gets restructered. Marshall cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > Well, it really doesn't make sense that distilled water would diminish the > bodies mineral content. Especially since the SAD diet of most people doesn't > include much water anyway. > You get most of your minerals from your food. > > The only KNOWING about water I have is: don't drink water from a softener. > I've seen what that water did to my neighbors' tomato seedlings. > > Chuck > > This tagline isn't really very witty and it runs on and on and you'd probably > be > much happier reading some other tagline. Most of them aren't half as > depressing > as this one. Don't say I didn't warn you. > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:07 -0400 (EDT), la...@webtv.net (larry tankersley) > wrote: > > > Dear list... > > Well I'm still trying to get a definitive answer to DW being good or > >bad as drinking water. Man it's hard to KNOW things. > > Below is a link to what DR. Mercola has to say about it [ I notice none > >of his references are from science journals ] On the other hand Dr Weil > >says just the opposite,and that DW is what he drinks ! Any of you > >folks know of controlled studies dealing with this question? > > SEE LINK BELOW > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: [Re: CS>Red and Violet CS]
I put some in the outside cat dish and it turned red (light red), I think it was from the feed that had been in the dish. Yours Hank "Lynda Khula" wrote: I had it happen mixing it with my reg. water and putting it in a container but do not have it happen all the time Lynda - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: CS>Red and Violet CS > People have in the past posted that they have had their CS turn red or > violet. Sometimes they would mix their CS with water, and other times > they would simply put it in a container that may not have been > completely clean. > > Could anyone who has had this happen get back to me off list? I have an > idea what might be happening, but don't want to even suggest it here > because it is so "off the wall". > > Thanks, > > Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TO; Tom Kotynski
I had to think there were more than 200. With about 1000 people on the Just say not to vaccs list for animals, 250 on the CS for animals list, and 1200 on the yahoo groups silver list, felt there had to be comparable numbers on this list. Connie > From: "M. G. Devour" > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:26:01 + > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>TO; Tom Kotynski > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:25:24 -0700 > > Connie writes: > >> Are there really only 200 members here? I would have guessed many >> more than that? > > The list population hovers in the range of 420 to 440 people these > days. There were 113 on it when I took over in '97. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Fwd: Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water
Well, it really doesn't make sense that distilled water would diminish the bodies mineral content. Especially since the SAD diet of most people doesn't include much water anyway. You get most of your minerals from your food. The only KNOWING about water I have is: don't drink water from a softener. I've seen what that water did to my neighbors' tomato seedlings. Chuck This tagline isn't really very witty and it runs on and on and you'd probably be much happier reading some other tagline. Most of them aren't half as depressing as this one. Don't say I didn't warn you. On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:07 -0400 (EDT), la...@webtv.net (larry tankersley) wrote: > Dear list... > Well I'm still trying to get a definitive answer to DW being good or >bad as drinking water. Man it's hard to KNOW things. > Below is a link to what DR. Mercola has to say about it [ I notice none >of his references are from science journals ] On the other hand Dr Weil >says just the opposite,and that DW is what he drinks ! Any of you >folks know of controlled studies dealing with this question? > SEE LINK BELOW -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
As all my posts state at the bottom, I'm Jeannie McReynolds from the Oregon coast. Bill Missett wrote: > For those who are posting their home nations to this list, I am keeping a > separate running list of all names and countries, which I will post when we > complete it. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tel Tofflemire" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Re where we are from > > > Tel Tofflemire > > Dewey, AZ > > > > Laura Maxwell wrote: > > > > > Laura Maxwell in California,USA > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > -- An aquarium is just interactive television for cats. Jeannie McReynolds Oregon Coast
Re: CS>Re: the blue senator
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 05:34:36 -0500, Bill Missett wrote: >I'd like to take on this task, if it's OK with the list membership. Since I >am a retired newspaper editor, I think I can speak "man to man" to him on >CS. I think that's a great idea. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>where are you from
I am from southern missouri. george edmonston
CS>re: Blue "Hoax" and Country of Origin (sorry, retry w/o all the rest of the digest!)
Bill Missett, I think you did a great job with your letter. It was polite, informative but firm. I hope it garners a response. So many times the media, once it has passed its 15 seconds of sensationalism on a subject, has no interest in rehashing or correcting the same material. My husband and I are from Southern California, U.S.A. (Tim & Jan Bolen - JuriMed) - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Where we are from
Sonja, Live Oak, Florida - Original Message - From: Day Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: CS>Where we are from Charles; Jacksonville, Florida
Re: CS>TO; Tom Kotynski
Connie writes: > Are there really only 200 members here? I would have guessed many > more than that? The list population hovers in the range of 420 to 440 people these days. There were 113 on it when I took over in '97. As in all such forums, most do not post. Many lurk quietly. Some, I'm sure, just let it pile up in their mail folders and delete it from time to time, unread. We're here when they need us. Bill wrote: > > where about 200 folks from all over the world exchange information > > about it, and how it is best made and best used. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Where we are from
Charles; Jacksonville, Florida
Re: CS>TO; Tom Kotynski
Are there really only 200 members here? I would have guessed many more than that? Connie where about 200 folks from all over the world > exchange information about it, and how it is best made and best used. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: blue candidate
Tom:
Thanks for your time, and your explanation of the situation. Your version
sounds reasonable, well-balanced, and fair. We don't have any suspicions
about your reportage, just the photo which we've seen.
Did your photo of Jones, as used, appear strongly blue? I know you can't
compare it to all others across the country. Maybe I can get a version of it
posted again, and forward it to you for comparison. I don't have the source
at my fingertips, but I'm sure someone on the list does.
(Incidentally, we have common roots. I served for two intense years
('64-'66) at the Hammond Times under Bill Chapman (ex-Detroit Free Press)
and Clint Wilkinson (ex-Chicago Sun Times) working as rewrite, features and
investigative reporter. Wow, what an education. I know Dick High well --
he is now publisher of the North County Times, my old newspaper which had
other names when I worked for it. And it is my understanding that Lee
bought all 20 of the Howard Publications papers for $794 million.)
I think it may be best if some other hands on the Silver List jumped in here
and provided you with their expertise on CS. I can provide a lot of info,
but they are more scientific than I, and can provide you with more than one
source for information.
We'll get back to you soon. Thanks again!
Regards, Bill Missett
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kotynski"
To: "Bill Missett"
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:26 PM
Subject: blue candidate
> Bill:
> Boy, was I surprised at the attention my column received.
> As an experienced political journalist, I'm always included on journalist
> panels that ask questions of candidates during debates (I've covered
Montana
> political campaigns for the past 30 years at the Great Falls Tribune as a
> reporter or editor).
> Anyway, when Jones took the platform it was apparent that something was
> wrong with him. I could hear people in the audience buzzing about it. He
> looked blue-gray. When standing near any of the other candidates his
> coloring disorder was even more pronounced. Many folks wondered if he
might
> have circulatory problems serious enough that he might keel over during
the
> debate.
> Anyway, I wasn't writing the debate, but I was so curious about Jones'
looks
> that I decided to approach him afterward. As I made my way toward the
> candidate several folks in the audience came up to me and asked what was
> wrong with him, and said I should ask him. I told the folks to follow me
and
> they'd get their answer in person. They did. That's when he explained he
> had "overdosed."
> It didn't seem that any of the reporters present were pursuing the story
> about his looks, so I decided I'd put it in my weekly column that appeared
> the following Monday. I even contacted Jones for some elaboration, which
he
> gave me in a telephone interview. It was top of three items I used that
> week.
>
> When it ran the Associated Press in Helena picked it up, and in turn it
was
> picked up by AP in New York City and put on the "A" wire and circulated
> worldwide.
>
> As to the photo. It was a single shot taken at the debate. It was taken
by
> our photo chief, John Liston, who can verify that the photo used in the
> Great Falls Tribune was what he saw. It reflected Jones' blue-gray
> appearance. It was transmitted to AP, as per AP request. What other
> newspapers did with it, I don't know.
>
> I can tell you that in addition to his face, you can see the "blue" or
> almost purple hue underneath his fingernails. The man has a very
noticeable
> skin discoloration.
>
> Jones has never disputed the contents of my column or the Liston photo.
He's
> had plenty of opportunity to do so. He met with a Tribune editor only last
> week, and just mentioned the extensive coverage.
>
> He told me for my column that incumbent U.S. Sen. Max Baucus had at one
> point asked him what was the matter with him in another public appearance.
>
> We're going to follow with an in-depth story on colloidal silver and
> argyria. I hope we can count on your insights for that story. Reporter
> Richard Ecke is working that story.
>
> Incidentally, I started in this business with the former Hammond Times and
> do know Richard High, who had been a reporter at The Times when I began.
I
> know that he later worked for Casper and Twin Falls. Did you know that
Lee
> Newspapers bought all three papers?
>
> Following is the part of my column that dealt with the Jones skin
condition.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tom Kotynski
> associate editor
> Great Falls Tribune
>
> Talk of the town
>
> Senate candidate sports a ‘healthy’ shade of blue
>
> Good morning, Great Falls!
>
> There may have been bigger-name draws at last week’s U.S. Senate debate at
> the Civic Center, but the crowd’s eyes were on Libertarian candidate Stan
> Jones.
>
> Jones has a startling bluish-gray complexion that had folks wondering out
> loud about his health. I wondered if his circulation might have been cut
off
> and feared he might have a
CS>Fw: blue candidate
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kotynski" To: "Bill Missett" Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: blue candidate > Bill: > Boy, was I surprised at the attention my column received. > As an experienced political journalist, I'm always included on journalist > panels that ask questions of candidates during debates (I've covered Montana > political campaigns for the past 30 years at the Great Falls Tribune as a > reporter or editor). > Anyway, when Jones took the platform it was apparent that something was > wrong with him. I could hear people in the audience buzzing about it. He > looked blue-gray. When standing near any of the other candidates his > coloring disorder was even more pronounced. Many folks wondered if he might > have circulatory problems serious enough that he might keel over during the > debate. > Anyway, I wasn't writing the debate, but I was so curious about Jones' looks > that I decided to approach him afterward. As I made my way toward the > candidate several folks in the audience came up to me and asked what was > wrong with him, and said I should ask him. I told the folks to follow me and > they'd get their answer in person. They did. That's when he explained he > had "overdosed." > It didn't seem that any of the reporters present were pursuing the story > about his looks, so I decided I'd put it in my weekly column that appeared > the following Monday. I even contacted Jones for some elaboration, which he > gave me in a telephone interview. It was top of three items I used that > week. > > When it ran the Associated Press in Helena picked it up, and in turn it was > picked up by AP in New York City and put on the "A" wire and circulated > worldwide. > > As to the photo. It was a single shot taken at the debate. It was taken by > our photo chief, John Liston, who can verify that the photo used in the > Great Falls Tribune was what he saw. It reflected Jones' blue-gray > appearance. It was transmitted to AP, as per AP request. What other > newspapers did with it, I don't know. > > I can tell you that in addition to his face, you can see the "blue" or > almost purple hue underneath his fingernails. The man has a very noticeable > skin discoloration. > > Jones has never disputed the contents of my column or the Liston photo. He's > had plenty of opportunity to do so. He met with a Tribune editor only last > week, and just mentioned the extensive coverage. > > He told me for my column that incumbent U.S. Sen. Max Baucus had at one > point asked him what was the matter with him in another public appearance. > > We're going to follow with an in-depth story on colloidal silver and > argyria. I hope we can count on your insights for that story. Reporter > Richard Ecke is working that story. > > Incidentally, I started in this business with the former Hammond Times and > do know Richard High, who had been a reporter at The Times when I began. I > know that he later worked for Casper and Twin Falls. Did you know that Lee > Newspapers bought all three papers? > > Following is the part of my column that dealt with the Jones skin condition. > > Sincerely, > > Tom Kotynski > associate editor > Great Falls Tribune > > Talk of the town > > Senate candidate sports a ‘healthy’ shade of blue > > Good morning, Great Falls! > > There may have been bigger-name draws at last week’s U.S. Senate debate at > the Civic Center, but the crowd’s eyes were on Libertarian candidate Stan > Jones. > > Jones has a startling bluish-gray complexion that had folks wondering out > loud about his health. I wondered if his circulation might have been cut off > and feared he might have a heart attack right there. > > “I’m healthy,” Jones assured me after the gathering. > > Ironically, his skin coloration is because Jones is “into health.” He says > his skin is that color from taking colloidal silver, a natural > anti-bacterial of pure silver. > > Unfortunately, he has taken too much — “overdosed” — which has resulted in > this permanent skin condition, also known as argyria. He isn’t familiar with > the term. > > He started taking the supplement in 1999 in anticipation of Y2K, in the > event that such remedies might be in short supply in the wake of an > anticipated worldwide computer disruption. He made his own dietary > supplement by electrically charging a couple of silver wires in a glass of > water. The charge created particles that he mixed with his drinking water. > > His skin began changing color a year ago. Even the skin under his > fingernails are the blue-gray hue. “People in church noticed it and then > people around the community,” said the Bozeman resident. This year, even his > opponent, incumbent U.S. Sen. Max Baucus, asked him about it. > > “People ask me if it’s permanent and if I’m dead,” he said. “I tell them I ’m > practicing for Halloween.” > > He doesn’t take the stuff anymore, though. > > Jones notes that the royalty of Europe inadvertently survived the Black > Plag
Re: CS>Red and Violet CS
I had it happen mixing it with my reg. water and putting it in a container but do not have it happen all the time Lynda - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: CS>Red and Violet CS > People have in the past posted that they have had their CS turn red or > violet. Sometimes they would mix their CS with water, and other times > they would simply put it in a container that may not have been > completely clean. > > Could anyone who has had this happen get back to me off list? I have an > idea what might be happening, but don't want to even suggest it here > because it is so "off the wall". > > Thanks, > > Marshall > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002
RE: CS>Re where we are from
Santa Fe, The state of New Mexico. My nationality is ":New Mexican". James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Re where we are from For those who are posting their home nations to this list, I am keeping a separate running list of all names and countries, which I will post when we complete it. - Original Message - From: "Tel Tofflemire" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re where we are from > Tel Tofflemire > Dewey, AZ > > Laura Maxwell wrote: > > > Laura Maxwell in California,USA > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
CS>TO; Tom Kotynski
Tom: I've designated myself to communicate with you regarding the case of Stan Jones, Libertarian candidate for Senator from Montana, who has a self-induced skin condition known as argyria. For the record, I am a retired U.S. daily newspaper editor -- Oceanside, CA North County Times from 1968-92.(I served as state editor of the Star-Tribune in Casper, Wyo. from 1965-7, close to your neck of the woods.) I am also a daily consumer of colloidal silver (CS) which is the substance which caused Jones' skin condition, and have been for almost six years. I have been researching it for five years, because of its history, and the effort to suppress knowledge of it by the FDA, and the pharmaceutical cartels. (I won't go into the history of CS or details of it here, but will if you want.) I am a member of an internet group known as the Silver List (silver-list@eskimo.com) where about 200 folks from all over the world exchange information about it, and how it is best made and best used. Members of the list, including myself, are upset about this negative information about CS being so widely disseminated by the U.S. news media because it gives the FDA more ammunition with which to suppress CS. There has been a good deal of traffic on our list in the last two weeks about the article, and the accompanying photos. We feel there has been intentional manipulation of the color balance of the Jones photo which was distributed with the article. We have viewed other recent photos of Jones, and he appears pink and healthy instead of sickly blue-gray. We don't think you are the source of all of it, but since you are the origin of it, I'm communicating with you. I was unable to read your original article, which was off-post by the time we received your weblink, but did read the second item. Hence, I do not know if your newspaper printed the very blue photo of Jones, or whether it came from some other news source in Montana. Can you provide us with your insight into this situation, how your column it em was picked up and distributed nationally. and provide us with your knowledge of the source of the very blue mugshot of Jones which accompanied the article on AP? Also, since you must have had personal contact with Jones, can you tell us how he appeared to you, in person, as compared to the blue photo? He appears normal and healthy in all other photos we have seen. There has been much finger-pointing on our CS list accusing the media of perpetrating a "hoax" by purposely distributing a doctored photo made to appear much bluer than Jones appears in all other recent photos. Based on my 30 years of daily newspaper experience, much of it involving photography, I have to agree. That blue photo looks doctored. As the only former media person on the CS list, I've had to bear much media-bashing over this, and we want to get to the bottom of it. FYI, Jones has provided us with information which indicates he broke several cardinal rules about the preparation of CS -- namely using high-mineral content tap water, and an improper battery arrangement. Had he followed the standard OP, it would be highly unlikely that he would have contracted argyria. Properly produced CS is safe to use, does not cause arygria, (which is NOT dangerous, just unslightly) and is the cheapest, most effective anti-bacterial substance on the planet, better than any antibiotic. And most importantly, CS does not cause bacteria to mutate into resistant forms. CS kills all bacteria, very quickly and extremely cheaply. That's why the pharmaceutical cartels and the FDA don't want knowledge of CS to become widespread. Please respond when you have time, and provide us all the data possible. You can respond directly to me: miss...@prodigy.net.mx or to the silver-list@eskimo.com . Many thanks for your time, and we'll be looking forward to hearing your response. Regards, Bill Missett Oaxaca, Mexico -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Unidentified subject!
Carol Eva, Clovis California, USA _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Grant Canada.. Reinhard Stanjek wrote: Reinhard Stanjek in Canada! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Paul Ladendorf, Merrillville, Indiana USA - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Question For Mike
That be good. - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:34 AM Subject: Re: CS>Question For Mike > Bill inquires: > > Do you know how many nations are represented on the Silver List? If > > not, can we take a poll to find out where we are from, in terms of > > nation of residence? Or is that considered intruding. > > I don't have detailed stats on list membership, but we all know it > spans the glob pretty well. > > I don't want to handle a huge influx of mail right now, but I think I > can suggest a compromise... > > Bill, would you please collect and tally all the replies of people who > are willing to mention their country of residence on the list? If you > don't mind stating the info publicly, just respond to the list. > > Anyone else who wishes to remain anonymous, please send your > country information to me, the list owner, privately at: > > mdev...@eskimo.com > > That way you don't have to post publicly if you don't want to. > > I will tally those stats and integrate them with Bill's list when we're > satisfied that enough people have chimed in... > > How's that? > > Be well, > > Mike Devour > silver-list owner > > > It would be nice to know how truly international the CS list > > membership is on any given day. That will be a good indicator of > > whether the idea is feasible at all. > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@eskimo.com] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re where we are from
For those who are posting their home nations to this list, I am keeping a separate running list of all names and countries, which I will post when we complete it. - Original Message - From: "Tel Tofflemire" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re where we are from > Tel Tofflemire > Dewey, AZ > > Laura Maxwell wrote: > > > Laura Maxwell in California,USA > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>Question For Mike
Bill inquires: > Do you know how many nations are represented on the Silver List? If > not, can we take a poll to find out where we are from, in terms of > nation of residence? Or is that considered intruding. I don't have detailed stats on list membership, but we all know it spans the glob pretty well. I don't want to handle a huge influx of mail right now, but I think I can suggest a compromise... Bill, would you please collect and tally all the replies of people who are willing to mention their country of residence on the list? If you don't mind stating the info publicly, just respond to the list. Anyone else who wishes to remain anonymous, please send your country information to me, the list owner, privately at: mdev...@eskimo.com That way you don't have to post publicly if you don't want to. I will tally those stats and integrate them with Bill's list when we're satisfied that enough people have chimed in... How's that? Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner > It would be nice to know how truly international the CS list > membership is on any given day. That will be a good indicator of > whether the idea is feasible at all. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>High Temperature since starting CS - is this normal ? Lyme disease patients in particular
Hello, This is aimed at Lyme disease patients only. Did any one get a high temperature on first beginning CS therapy along with a bad herx ? My temp has stayed high (but not fever high (approx 99, skin hot to touch but no sweating and VERY difficult to sleep). Any feedback welcome. Thanks Kevin
CS>Red and Violet CS
People have in the past posted that they have had their CS turn red or violet. Sometimes they would mix their CS with water, and other times they would simply put it in a container that may not have been completely clean. Could anyone who has had this happen get back to me off list? I have an idea what might be happening, but don't want to even suggest it here because it is so "off the wall". Thanks, Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>WARNING : H202 (even Food Grade)by mouth IS DANGEROUS !
Why? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: + +++ [mailto:lymegladia...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>WARNING : H202 (even Food Grade)by mouth IS DANGEROUS ! Hello, This product is usually taken in it'schemical form IN A BATH - it id NOT SUITABLE FOR INGESTION. Theidea is to OXYGENATE THE TISSUES and I have used it with very limited success FOR LYME. I have been on lists for Lyme and other illnesses where the concensus is : DO NOT TAKE EITHER THE FOOD GRADE or THE OTHER BY MOUTH - They are an extreme stomach irritant and have been known to cause CANCER. The only safe way to take the food or pharmaceutical grade typeis by IV taken with Saline Drip in a vein. Take it ot Leave it - I've tried and it has limited use. Regards + M +++ lymegladia...@btinternet.com
RE: CS>CS & Bones
Re: CS>CS & BonesA PHd Chemist told me several years ago there was no chemical reaction between CS and DMSO. Probably, the stability of the mixture will depend on the stability of the CS. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@orcon.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS & Bones Does anybody know if CS mixed with DMSO has a finite shelf life? Cheers, Roger on 16/10/2002 1:32 PM, James Osbourne, Holmes at a...@cybermesa.com wrote: Speculative suggestion: 50/50 by volume good CS with DMSO topically, depending on how deep "the bone". Also, just lots orally on an empty stomach, up to the point of digestive upset; constipation or diarrhea. Higher blood levels if the CS is consumed with Gatorade or Lactated Ringers solution with MSM. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS & Bones Help everyone. My friend has been very willing to use CS, but his problem is a staph infection in his bone. CS can't get to this infection. Does anyone have a suggestion how he can get the CS to the staph infection? Nancy
Re: CS>Question For Mike
I am from Maine and thank you for the info on this list Lynda - Original Message - From: "Heidrun Beer" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>Question For Mike > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:11:24 -0500, Bill Missett wrote in > <000d01c27497$cfbaba40$1832e...@computer>: > > > >It would be nice to know how truly international the CS list membership is > >on any given day. That will be a good indicator of whether the idea is > >feasible at all. > > > I am from Austria, Europe. > > > > > Heidrun Beer > > Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training > http://www.sgmt.at > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002
CS>Re:CS>where we are from
Sheila Campbell from Scotland, Britain. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: [CS>what countries we on the list our from]
Reid Harvey wrote: Bill, I'm adding my name to yours since this is easy enough to do. Also I may be the only one who lives in Nepal: 1. Mexico, Bill Missett 2. Nepal, Reid Harvey 3. Arkansas US Henry Adams Now there are people from two countries! (joke) Reid Bill Missett said: Mike: Do you know how many nations are represented on the Silver List? If not, can we take a poll to find out where we are from, in terms of nation of residence? Or is that considered intruding. The reason I ask is because I think to achieve the stated goals which are now being floated around, my own included, we are going to have to think in terms of creating a CS organization to determine what we want to achieve and how we can best achieve it. That's step one. If created solely from the membership of Silver List alone, it would instantly be international in nature. It would be nice to know how truly international the CS list membership is on any given day. That will be a good indicator of whether the idea is feasible at all. I'm a US citizen living in Mexico, so I have a foot in both worlds. Bill Missett, Oaxaca, Mexico Yours Hankhttp://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue71/wing2.html
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ Laura Maxwell wrote: > Laura Maxwell in California,USA > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re where we are from
Laura Maxwell in California,USA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS> Fwd: Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water
Dear list... Well I'm still trying to get a definitive answer to DW being good or bad as drinking water. Man it's hard to KNOW things. Below is a link to what DR. Mercola has to say about it [ I notice none of his references are from science journals ] On the other hand Dr Weil says just the opposite,and that DW is what he drinks ! Any of you folks know of controlled studies dealing with this question? SEE LINK BELOW --- Begin Message --- larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Re: the blue senator
I'd like to take on this task, if it's OK with the list membership. Since I am a retired newspaper editor, I think I can speak "man to man" to him on CS. - Original Message - From: "whomever999" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:54 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: the blue senator > > Here is another article by Tom Kotynski, the person who wrote the original article in the Great > Falls Tribune : > > http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20021007/localnews/235542.html > > His original article, of Sept 30th, set the whole thing off, although he might not have intended it > to : > http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20020930/topstories/188162.htm l > > > > He ends this latest article with : "if you're taking the stuff and suffering from skin discoloration > or other symptoms, or think silver colloid lives up to its alternative medical hype as a natural > antibiotic, contact me for a future story. " > > It might be useful for someone to write to him and give him all the information he needs. > > It should be someone really knowledgeable about CS - the research & evidence regarding its > qualities. About its lack of toxicity - for example the FDA's response to an inquiry about CS > http://silverdata.20m.com/fda.html. Compared with the toxicity of other drugs : > http://www.fda.gov/cder/dpe/annrep96/. About argyria, including how it may be reversed with > cilantro, and other methods. > > And asking him what proof anyone (such as the writer of the "thoughtful e-mail") has offered of > argyria being "a more serious condition than Jones thinks" (!!). > > If this knowledgeable person could email the information to Kotynski, requesting him to publish it > right away, and *copy the email to this newsgroup*, we could all of us then observe what happens > next! > > If Kotynski was indeed "surprised by the wide dissemination" of his report, then he should have an > interest in presenting accurate, factual data on the subject. > > Indi > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dean Miller" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Re: the blue senator > > > Hi Laura, > > I hope you get a response from Stan (I presume he's mighty busy right > now). The email I sent to silverfacts bounced. I have an HTML copy > of the web page this FAQ came from, if you want it (I assume I can > send it all right). > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:17:24 EDT, samma...@aol.com wrote: > > > I agree, Bill. The "blue" story is all over the place. I've written to > >Mr. Jones asking if the FAQ can be attributed to him, and if I might have > >permission to post it around and create a webpage with his comments. My > >letter: > > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>CS & Bones
You might find the work of Dr. R. Becker applicable; pick up a copy of *The Body Electric* and look for the section in which he treated a bone infection that had persisted for two years in spite of all antibiotic treatments. The patient had a non-healing fracture and Dr. Becker inserted a silver wire into the hole left by a previous metal screw and plate that had failed, and using Extremely small currents caused the silver ions to migrate into the infected region of the bone. Ten days later,- no infection whatsoever! This is no job for an amateur; seems to me you'd need to find an orthopedic Dr. familiar with Dr. Becker's work. But it's not rocket science, either. Hope this helps; Malcolm MARIANO DELISE wrote: > Help everyone. My friend has been very willing to use CS, but his problem is > a > staph infection in his bone. CS can't get to this infection. Does anyone > have > a suggestion how he can get the CS to the staph infection?Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re where we are from
Reinhard Stanjek in Canada!
