CS>Call for papers: Chemistry Preprint Server

[jrowland]

Ode Coyote writes:
"..and scientific journals are edited by scientific peers.  If they don't
find reason to believe, they won't print.  They get their reasons from
other scientists...ones with credentials..."

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Re: CS>canker sores

[Lynda Khula]

thank you will order some tomorrow
Lynda
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  <>

  1 gram is the same as 1000mg.  You should be able to find Lysine in both 
doses at any health food store -- or at any of a number of places online.

  Mike

Re: CS>canker sores

[NebMikey]

<>

1 gram is the same as 1000mg.  You should be able to find Lysine in both 
doses at any health food store -- or at any of a number of places online.

Mike

Re: CS>canker sores

[Lynda Khula]

thankyou for the info so when he says take 1 gram does this mean 500 mg or 1000 
mg,, 
thanks
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  Lynda wrote...

  <>

  Lysine   L-Lysine...   same, same.  This is very popular and also quite 
effective for many people who are trying to control cold sores / fever blisters 
(as well as for controlling herpes outbreaks).  Its typically found in either 
500mg or 1000mg doses and because its an amino acid, its normally very safe for 
most people to use.

  Mike 

Re: CS>canker sores

[NebMikey]

Lynda wrote...

<>

Lysine   L-Lysine...   same, same.  This is very popular and also quite 
effective for many people who are trying to control cold sores / fever 
blisters (as well as for controlling herpes outbreaks).  Its typically found 
in either 500mg or 1000mg doses and because its an amino acid, its normally 
very safe for most people to use.

Mike

CS>canker sores

[Lynda Khula]

nothing to do with this email but was going through the archive to look for
help with canker sores for my brother and came across a email from david
reese

If you feel a canker sore coming on just take one gram of lysine a couple
times
a day and it will usually be gone in one day.

could someone tell me if this is l lysine and if anyone else has heard of
this
thanks
Lynda



- Original Message -
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>mundane neck and back pain


> I just ordered over $80.00 dollars worth of Emu oil products, would be
nice to use
> DMSO and make it even better. I ordered from this Mn.. co.
> http://www.emumagic.com/index.htm
> Tel Tofflemire
> Dewey, AZ
>
> Douglas Haack wrote:
>
> > Brooks,
> >
> > Alway interested in any of your protocols. I'm familiar with the
benefits of
> > Emu oil.
> >
> > In Silvation, Douglas Haack
> >
> > Brooks Bradley wrote:
> >
> > > One of our researchers reports
considerable
> > > success through the utilization of a blended compound containing Emu
oil and
> > > DMSO.  He did not relate the percentages, or his protocol for mixing
the
> > > two.  If interest exists among the list membership, I will endeavor to
> > > isolate the details of his investigation.
> > > Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
> > >
> > > Reid Harvey wrote:
> > >
> > > > CS Enthusiasts,
> > > > I'm feeling a bit of neck pain, which is somtimes a precursor to
full
> > > > fledged lower back pain.  I have a problem there with a disk.  I
feel
> > > > sure that this all must have to do with a lack of proper exercise
> > > > lately, but wonder if the CS/ DMSO combination may be helpful.  Can
> > > > someone let me know?  Or what about DMSO cream, perhaps mixed with a
bit
> > > > of CS?
> > > > Reid
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Re: CS>cs and h2o2

[CKing001]

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:13:15 -0500, gimpy  wrote:

> 1 drop of 70% h2o2 on your skin, repeated twice a day
>will create a sore, eat the top loyer of skin off. I would not use
>h2o2 in my eyes with out expert supervision.
>I have done the drop on the skin thing as a demenstration.

70%h2o2??
On your skin?
A demonstration of what?
Chuck

I once fell through the trap door.
They said it was a stage I was going through.
(Max Headroom)




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Re: CS>cs and h2o2

[gimpy]

Just my 2 cents. I would not put anything in my eyes that is not
sterile. 1 drop of 70% h2o2 on your skin, repeated twice a day
will create a sore, eat the top loyer of skin off. I would not use
h2o2 in my eyes with out expert supervision.
I have done the drop on the skin thing as a demenstration.
Hopefully some one with more knowledge will also respond.
HTH,
gimpy

On Thursday 19 December 2002 01:16 pm, Shirley Reed wrote:
>    List,  Does anyone know if is ok to use cs with h2o2 in it with a bit of 
saline for eyedrops?  


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Re: CS>mundane neck and back pain

[Tel Tofflemire]

I just ordered over $80.00 dollars worth of Emu oil products, would be nice to 
use
DMSO and make it even better. I ordered from this Mn.. co.
http://www.emumagic.com/index.htm
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ

Douglas Haack wrote:

> Brooks,
>
> Alway interested in any of your protocols. I'm familiar with the benefits of
> Emu oil.
>
> In Silvation, Douglas Haack
>
> Brooks Bradley wrote:
>
> > One of our researchers reports considerable
> > success through the utilization of a blended compound containing Emu oil and
> > DMSO.  He did not relate the percentages, or his protocol for mixing the
> > two.  If interest exists among the list membership, I will endeavor to
> > isolate the details of his investigation.
> > Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
> >
> > Reid Harvey wrote:
> >
> > > CS Enthusiasts,
> > > I'm feeling a bit of neck pain, which is somtimes a precursor to full
> > > fledged lower back pain.  I have a problem there with a disk.  I feel
> > > sure that this all must have to do with a lack of proper exercise
> > > lately, but wonder if the CS/ DMSO combination may be helpful.  Can
> > > someone let me know?  Or what about DMSO cream, perhaps mixed with a bit
> > > of CS?
> > > Reid
> > >
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Re: CS>heating water?

[dblack]

Glenda,
Since heating water in the microwave is uncertain in terms of changing the
molecules of the water, I put a 16 oz jar ( Mayonaise jar)  of DS in a small
saucepan and warm it at medium temp for about 10 minutes, to about 125
degrees on candy thermometer.  It doesn't take much more time and doing this
removes any doubt about what the microwave does to water.
Nancy

> Hi all,
>
> I just made a 2 cup batch of silver using distilled water, in a pyrex
> measure cup.  This is the first time that I tried warming the water.  I
> used the microwave for just a minute and a half. The water was still
> luke warm.  I usually leave the silver cook for one hour unless I'm
> using really fresh batteries. This time I only left it for 45 minutes.
> It does not taste as metallic as the other batches.  The rods were
> really covered with silver clumps (usually not quite as bad).
>
> Question:
>
> Is using the microwave OK or does it change the water molecule?
> How long should one leave the silver cook?
> How warm does one get the water before starting?
>
> Glenda
>
>
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Re: CS>mundane neck and back pain

[Douglas Haack]

Brooks,

Alway interested in any of your protocols. I'm familiar with the benefits of
Emu oil.

In Silvation, Douglas Haack

Brooks Bradley wrote:

> One of our researchers reports considerable
> success through the utilization of a blended compound containing Emu oil and
> DMSO.  He did not relate the percentages, or his protocol for mixing the
> two.  If interest exists among the list membership, I will endeavor to
> isolate the details of his investigation.
> Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
>
> Reid Harvey wrote:
>
> > CS Enthusiasts,
> > I'm feeling a bit of neck pain, which is somtimes a precursor to full
> > fledged lower back pain.  I have a problem there with a disk.  I feel
> > sure that this all must have to do with a lack of proper exercise
> > lately, but wonder if the CS/ DMSO combination may be helpful.  Can
> > someone let me know?  Or what about DMSO cream, perhaps mixed with a bit
> > of CS?
> > Reid
> >
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Re: CS>west nile

[Brooks Bradley]

Dear Michele,
Disregarding speculation as to its absolute
origin, West Nile Virus (a coined identity) displays to be a VERY close
relative to Eastern Equine Encephalitis.  WNV and EEE are most similar,
displaying many similar characteristics.including infectious consequences
and biological field adaptation characteristics.   Through employing a
reliable search engine, you should be able to inform yourself, quite well, on
Eastern Equine Encephalitis...and thus gained useful knowledge applicable
to its kinWNV.   While certainly not a benign agent, WNV has displayed
(to our satisfaction) to be no more, or less, threatening ..as a virulent
new-variant flu strain.   Young children and persons of advanced age or poor
health would be under the greatest danger.
These comments may be construed to be my personal
opinion.ONLY.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  Our investigations have indicated WNV as MUCH less threateningas a
potential epizootic-than the publicly-based media outlets continually
announce/imply.  There does seem to be existing suggestion that WNV (in some
form) has been extent in the U.S. for some period PRIOR to the sudden
identification/revelations by the mass media.   There is no existing evidence
the Atlanta-based Federal Research Facility was LOOKING for such a
pathogen..prior to the highly publicized New York episode.  The rather
sophomoric commentary relating to rapid mosquito-vector transport being of
sudden onset..does tend to lead one to question the credulity of these
sources.
Interesteringly, while not possessing a current-health dossier
on the deceased victims assigned to WNV.we have NO provable data than ANY
nominally healthy individual has expired as the direct and sole result of WNV.

Michele Lee wrote:

> What do you mean the manmade west nile virus?!  Manmade?
> I just had a friend die from the West Nile in Columbus, Ohio.
>
> Mic
>
> >I have the West Nile Virus (manmade kind) since July/August.† I am
> >getting better with CS taking at least 2-3 oz in the am and pm for 7 days
> >now.† I was so ill in August I could not drive my car as I could not
> >concentrate.† When I could get to sleep at night I would have to sleep
> >12-16 hours at a stretch.†† I could barely get out of bed.† At night I
> >would "burn up" and sweat profusely with malaria like symptoms.† My face
> >was all puffy and I could barely open my swollen eyes.† When I went to dr
> >in Sept my doctor said I had "allergies"!!† I had a temperature of 102.†
> >She refused to believe I had the West Nile because she had no "wonder
> >cure" to give me.† Typical doctor reaction.† She just wanted to order a
> >bunch of "expensive tests" to run up the bill and send me to a
> >specialist!!!† Ah, the wonders of modern medicine.† She ! did give me
> >some antibiotics which toned down the problem a little but it flared back
> >up to full strength again in early November. I went back for another
> >round of antibiotics then.† I got a little bit better but was still
> >suffering the puffy, swollen eyes, lethargy, unable to concentrate
> >symptoms.† I still had to sleep at least 10-12 hours a day.† The more I
> >stayed in bed the WORSE I felt and the worse my face was swollen up.
>
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Re: CS>snake bites

[Marshall Dudley]

I would not expect that the venom would have any bacteria in it. But the tooth
of the snake could certainly be loaded with bacteria which would enter the wound
when bitten.

There is speculation that CS actually nutralizes snake venom, since there are a
number of reports that it nutralizes insect stings and spider bites. But I am
unaware of any tests that confirm this hypothesis.  Also high voltage electrical
pulses are reported to nutralize it as well, but I am not aware of any
conclusive studies on this either.

Marshall

Rich Adams wrote:

> Someone on a dog list I am on recently said that poisonous snake bite venom
> is loaded with "pathogenic bacteria".
>
> I know it's not something to mess with but in emergencies seems to me a good
> silver solution can help.  Of course it could, but can it be relied on?
>
> Opinions?
>
> Respectfully,
> Rich Adams
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CS>cs and h2o2

[Shirley Reed]

   List,  Does anyone know if is ok to use cs with h2o2 in it with a bit of 
saline for eyedrops?  


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CS>snake bites

[Rich Adams]

Someone on a dog list I am on recently said that poisonous snake bite venom
is loaded with "pathogenic bacteria".

I know it's not something to mess with but in emergencies seems to me a good
silver solution can help.  Of course it could, but can it be relied on?

Opinions?

Respectfully,
Rich Adams






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Re: CS>sore throat , herx? Strep?

[Ode Coyote]

 meaningThe kill rate has to exceed the replication rate and strep
replicates virulently..ie..very fast.
Ken

 The silver has to remain at the site
>of infection in sufficient concentration to continue to reduce population
>counts.  


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Re: CS>Thank you for replying Ken! But I was asking about 20 ppm not 80 ppm

[Ode Coyote]

  How much would a person have to consume to get the blood levels up to
3PPM or even .5 PPM over what period of time with a 94% elimination rate
over 48 hours and varying assimilation rates and routes?
 It's not so simple as saying that any given PPM will be effective without
even mentioning volume.  Too many parameters missing.
 ken

At 09:44 PM 12/17/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:52:55 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time),
>"leeelder"  wrote:
>
>>Ken, I used a ppm tester and got the reading of 20 ppm and was just
>>wondering if that was high or low as far as the CS went. Just looking for
>>input. Thanks, Lee Elder 
>
>"Official" tests (conducted at Brigham Young University) shows that 5
>ppm is effective against practically everything they tested against.
>10 ppm was no better for most of the bacteria, and somewhat better
>(slightly shorter kill time) for 2 or 3.  Several people have
>commented that 1/2 ppm to 3 ppm was quite effective for various uses.
>
>So IMO ... 20 ppm is probably okay, but may be "overkill" in the sense
>that you're wasting time (it takes longer to make), wasting silver and
>increasing your chances of having the silver clump into larger
>particles (which is far, far less effective).
>
>-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF
>
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Re: CS>Virus Comment

[Ode Coyote]

..and scientific journals are edited by scientific peers.  If they don't
find reason to believe, they won't print.  They get their reasons from
other scientists...ones with credentials.
 It's a negative feedback loop that keeps the mainstream from taking other
river beds.
 It also prevents scientific journals from becoming like NEXUS magazine
where the uninformed are left to sort junk from treasure.
Ken



At 12:53 PM 12/17/2002 -5, you wrote:
>> My question was why hasn't someone like yourself published their
>> findings in a medical or scientific journal. ... Specifically, I was
>> interested in medical trials that measured the viral load of several
>> subjects over time as CS was administered. So far, all I have been
>> able to find is testimonial.
>
>It seems to be a given that you won't find much about CS in the medical
>literature, Andy. Licensed physicians won't experiment with it on any 
>large scale or visible basis for fear of their licenses -- if they've 
>even heard enough about it to overcome the widespread prejudice against
>such alternatives. 
>
>Major research organizations run on grant money, and *that* is 
>controlled by people who are necessarily interested in profit. Things 
>like CS, inexpensive chemicals like DMSO and MSM, and the countless 
>other things that we do-it-yourselfers come up with are *not* easily 
>controlled nor exploited.
>
>The FDA makes the approval process so arduous and expensive that 
>*official* medicine must keep leaping from one exotic option to another 
>in order to secure the profitability and long term survival of the 
>industry.
>
>The upshot is that we must test these things for ourselves, at our own 
>risk, and learn all that we can from our own and others' experiences. A 
>few small studies and voluminous anecdotal reports are the bulk of what 
>you will find.
>
>Be well,
>
>Mike D.
>
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Re: CS>Thank you for replying Ken! But I was asking about 20 ppm not 80 ppm

[Ode Coyote]

 It will be low.
How low depends on the TE.  Meters don't read suspended particles.
Under 10 PPM might be right on to just a tiny bit low [very little TE]
With light to medium TE mutiliply by 1.2
Heavy TE...maybe x 1.5 or so.

Not very scientific...just to get an idea of PPM.
ken


At 09:52 AM 12/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: 

Ken, I used a ppm tester and got the reading of 20 ppm and was just wondering if that was high or low as far as the CS went. Just looking for input. Thanks, Lee Elder 


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From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:03:05 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Fw: Question- is 20 ppm very good CS? WOULD SOMEBODY RESPOND TO THIS
Thanks.


> 80 PPM gets into a REALLY iffy range but I wouldn't say it can't be
>done. I would question the reliability and repeatability of making that
>concentration and having it remain stable.
>
>Ken


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Re: CS>[List owner] Fancy text formatting...

[M. G. Devour]

> To turn off fancy formatting and send plain text in Netscape:

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