Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:01:35 -0700, S J Young you...@konnections.net wrote: There is a device called a silicon FET current regulator diode that does the trick. This is really a small integrated circuit, shaped like a small rectifier diode, that limits current flow to a set value. The regulator diodes are small cylinders with about a 1 inch wire coming out of each end of the cylinder. One end of the cylinder is marked with a band around it. Wow!! I've been in electronics for 50 years and hadn't heard of these devices. Thanks for the info. Now all we have to do is come up with a device that will shut off the generator when the electrode voltage gets below a certain point. :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA question - perhaps to Trem
Dear Trem and Malcolm, Thank you for your prompt responses. I agree, Malcolm, the two sites you gave as as good as it gets! Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CS and Chemo....herbs
I'm with you, Diane, I mostly stay away from the meds. Altho, gotta say I was glad to have some Vicodin for kidney stones along with Chinese herbs and acupuncturekept me out of the $$$ hospital. Ouch! Not sure about pets, but allergies in people generally mean depleted adrenals. Babies can even be born with depleted adrenals if the mother is depleted and has been 'sucking the fetus' dry in the third trimester. This all lowers immunity, and, CS is going to help kill what the immune system would normally have to deal with, so you're right it, it could only help. Maybe you'd like to pass this alt-treatment for allergies to your friend...not sure it is available near her. Hopefully, she'll get back with the CS and will pressure her vet for answers! Kit http://www.vetnaet.com/about.htmlhttp://www.vetnaet.com/about.html At 07:41 PM 12/28/02 -0600, d.linen wrote: You are right, Kit. There are herbs that work against some meds. I don't take meds so it's not an issue for me. I don't know why her vet told her to quit giving him the CS. I do know she hasn't started giving it to him again though. The whole problem was he was allergic to a certain brand of food and the CS had nothing to do with it and may actually have helped him had she continued to give it to him. diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
American Microsemiconductor, Inc. 133 Kings Road, Madison, NJ 07940 USA Tel: (973) 377-9566 Fax: (973) 377-3078 i...@americanmicrosemi.com http://shop.store.yahoo.com/americanmicrosemiconductor/info.html This company has the 1N5295 (.82 ma) in stock for $3.16 ea. Although they have a $35.00 min. Also ya might want to look into using the LM334Z IC (variable) with a pot or 100 ohm resistor. ~Ron - Original Message - From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator Fellow CS brewers, Not well known is the fact that for about $5 you can easily convert your constant voltage CS generator (e.g. a three nine-volt battery setup) to one that limits the current to assure small particle production and prevent current run-away. Thus your unit would then function the same as the better constant current commercial units. I will try to describe this in non-technical terms so many can take advantage of this. There is a device called a silicon FET current regulator diode that does the trick. This is really a small integrated circuit, shaped like a small rectifier diode, that limits current flow to a set value. The regulator diodes are small cylinders with about a 1 inch wire coming out of each end of the cylinder. One end of the cylinder is marked with a band around it. The part numbers are the series 1N5283 through 1N5314, with the current limits in the range of 0.22 ma thru 4.7 ma, respectively. Probably the one of most interest to us is the 1N5297 that limits the current to 1.0 ma. One manufacturer is Central Semiconductor Corp. Go to www.centralsemi.com and search for 1N5297 if you want to see the specifications and a drawing of the device. Using them is super simple. For example, for a three nine-volt battery system, just cut the wire between the minus terminal of the battery and the silver electrode. Connect the wire from the battery minus-terminal to the banded regulator diode wire. Connect the wire from the silver electrode to the other non-banded regulator diode wire. One can use 2 small wire nuts, available at any hardware store, to make the connections, alligator clips, or solder and tape them. Congratulations - you now have a sophisticated constant current CS generator! When brewing a new batch, the current will start out very small as before -- a few microamps--depending on water purity. As silver production proceeds, the current will rise until it reaches the value set into the regulator diode. Then it will stay constant (e.g. at 1.0 ma for a 1N5297) for the remainder of the brew time. It is impossible for the current to run away and increase beyond the set point, even if the electrodes accidently short together. These regulator diodes are rated to a maximum of 100 volts. That means one could use a higher starting voltage (e.g. 54 volts from six nine-volt batteries) and reduce the brew time (it will take less time for the current to reach 1.0 ma). Again, the higher voltage is perfectly safe as the current cannot run away because of the current limiting effect of the regulator diode. These devices are not widely used so they are not available from many sources such as Radio Shack. One source that sells them is Mouser Electronics. Go to www.mouser.com and search for the part # 1N5297 and you will see the information. When I checked recently, they had about 1,500 of them in stock for a price of $4.29 each. I suppose they have a minimum order, so it would be a good idea for someone to volunteer to order a batch of them for those that express an interest in a group buy. (I don't have time to do this - sorry). I believe the use of a 1N5297 along with a few nine-volt batteries is by far simplest, goof-proof way to make a constant current CS generator. If you give it a try, please let us know how your results. --Steve Young -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:Making your own brew.............. help!!!!!!!!!!
Ionic content and particulate content don't necessarily have a fixed relationship. Color and particle size does. As you make CS stronger the 'dissolved ions in solution' start crowding the saturation point of the water which is temperature dependant for the most part [with a few other crazy hard to nail down details like the effects of hydration thrown in]. Some say the saturation point of room temperature water is around 10 to 13 PPM. So, somewhere around in there you should start to get a noticeable TE. At some point silver crystals start to form [particles in suspension]. So, the stronger you make the CS, the more particles will form...but the more likely they will clump together and make larger particles of color. The trick is to make a lot of small colorless particles as opposed to fewer big yellow, violet or red ones that reflect more light per particle. It's sort of like making rock candy except the goal is to make candy for very very small people. [Trick or treat, you little microbes!] What is the maximum saturation point of water before ALL silver beyond that forms particles? I dunno. I've go up to 50 PPM as measured by a meter [which ONLY registers ionic content] with a very heavy and fine TE that might indicate a total of 80 to 100 PPM...and still stable with no color. [the stronger you make it, the more sensitive to contamination it is. Just one little smattering of spit or whatever..and/ or a fast temperature shift.. can make it go through colors like a rainbow] I've also made black CS at 30 PPM and yellow at 10. I've made yellow CS with a light TE and clear CS with a heavy TE. Every now and then, someone with the very best setup just can't make CS at 20 PPM that stays colorless. Why?..when with the same setup, I can't make colored CS at a higher PPM? Usually it's the water , something local, but it could include other factors like electromagnetic fields, the Northern Lights, sunspots, phase of the moon. Who knows!!?? So, bottom line is that particle size and TE are not directly related except that large particles reflect more light in a visible range and can make a TE appear to be heavier regardless of what color the CS is. The light reflections may have a somewhat grainy appearance in laser light too. [heavy course TE vs heavy fine TE] If you have a heavy fine TE in a batch of no color, you have a very strong brew that might be up to twice the actual content that a meter will read. If it's heavy course TE...it will be a bit less strong total PPM wise. Generally speaking as per Trems lab tests, CS at a meter reading of 20 PPM will be 80% ionic, so, the fudge factor is meter reading times 1.2 to include the particulate content that a meter won't read but shows up as TE. It follows that if the PPM meter reading is lower and the TE less pronounced, the meter reading will be closer to actual silver content. In other words, the more pronounced and finer the TE, the higher the fudge factor. Unfortunately, there's no way that I know of to quantify TE other than forming a visual opinion based on, Gee, that looks strong and fine...or medium and fine..or heavy and course etc. How heavy, how fine, is a matter of personal comparisons with no way to place numbers on the visual observations. ..and then there's murky [There's another word commonly used here to denote murky, but I forgot what it is] The upside is that no matter what the brew looks like, there's still going to be some percentage of ions and small particles that do the best job of entering [and leaving] cellular structures and penetrating memberbrains. [oops, that's membranes] There is some speculation that larger particles have some advantage in some instances but by and large [or hello and small?] it's generally agreed that smallest is bestest. It's also considered that ions have a fairly short life in the blood stream...about 7 minutes? [there's a lot of salt in there] and particles are very chemically stable and long lived...and smallest is also most easily eliminated. [and has the most surface area, so, is the most powerful in effect] Of course, if it was too big to get in...it doesn't have to get out. So, chunks, sparklies and oxides are considered to be harmless because they just pass through. [Probably don't want to inject them though] It is a known thing [by someone other than me] just how big a particle can pass through what membrains...membranes... My assumption is that anything smaller than a virus can go anywhere. Since autopsies have found silver in the brain and nerves, I assume that the blood brain barrier will not stop a small silver particle or ion. [It was also found that it took an enormous amount of silver to harm the nervous system] But here's a tidbit that's most interesting. It was found that a dose of inhaled silver dust was 94% elimimated through the bowl within 24 hours in dogs and monkeys. Dust is huge particles! ...comparative cannon balls with no way out but through the blood
Re: CSringworm, was Re: CSwas Listowner comments ...now neb ??
Thanks, again, Paula! I'll check in the med cabinet for the DMSO...think I might have some lurking about. Weepy and nasty, ughI do hope I can avoid that!Kit At 07:25 PM 12/28/02 -0700, you wrote: Kit I have read of good results with ringworm on cats using a 10% DMSO/90% CS solution dabbed on to the ringworm sores several times a day. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpost traumatic injuries
Just wanted to say thanks to whoever posted the info about MSM being good for post traumatic injury. I fell off my scooter while braking slightly to make a turn off a large metal plate covering the road surface on a very stormy rainy day and immediately went down. My scooter landed on my leg and I sustained painful bruising to my shin and both ankles. The shin injury left my leg completely numb for about a week until the swelling started to decrease at which point it became very painful. After reading that MSM is helpful for post traumatic injury I started taking 1000 mg about 3 times a day and it has made a significant difference in the pain level and rate of healing. So, thank you, for that information. I wanted to ask, as well, about how CS affects the immune system's work. Normally, the immune system would be fighting the bugs that CS kills so I wonder what it does to the immune system's effectiveness if CS is doing it's work. Will the immune system still make antibodies and continue doing what it's supposed to do on its own? How does CS interact with the immune system s normal activity? HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CS and Chemo....herbs
I view ANY practitioner Western OR Asian, as having to prove themselves competent. Chuck, very true! Chinese med., is a wholistic med., and deals with the patient as a whole, not the symptom. When you read about taking capsicum, it is for a symptom. (It's use for hypertension is by dilating the blood vessels) The doc sees the person. You may have a Heat condition (Chinese med. term) that would make capsicum (very hot) contraindicated for you, the person. It is not like Western med. where 'one size' fits all. If you want to use capsicum I would suggest making a paste/plaster (a little in vaseline)and taping it to your feet in the center just below the ball of your footnot too strong...don't want to cause blisters! Kit -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSup side down ?
Hi Sharie, Thanks! The trick with mine was in releasing the alt key. Kit At 05:48 PM 12/28/02 -1000, you wrote: Kit, I have a Mac and alt 0191 didn't work for me either. What does work is holding alt and shift keys down and then hitting ?. ¿¿¿ Aloha, Sharie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwas Listowner comments ...now neb ??
Thanks, Paula! Found it and joined! Kit At 09:04 PM 12/28/02 -0700, you wrote: Kit, Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CSCats-Dogs I can't remember if the archives are open to non-members but a search of the archives for nebulizing should turn up some info. paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: upside down question marks.............
¿ Worked on mine. O/S Windows 98. Normal keyboard. Hi (smile), What system do you have? I tried it and no-can-do. Kit At 09:06 AM 12/28/02 -0500, you wrote: to make them you press alt then 0191 on the number pad part of the keyboard. o¿o-- (smile) On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:20:40 -0600 Kit kitcur...@earthlink.net writes: How the Hell do you make upside down question marks?? Malcolm Hi Malcolm, Those come from a Spanish language keyboard. ;-) Kit -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .
Re: CSRe: cats with ringworm
Hi Nicole, Thanks! I'm gearing up to add CS water to the cats' and dogs' lifestyle!Kit I put some CS into their drinking water - they never get just straight CS and they never drink all their water but I think they get enough CS to keep their systems clean. I don't give it all the time - only intermittently. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNicole K - READ RECEIPT FEATURE STILL ON
Dear Nicole, I have written to you, privately, twice before about this. Do you recall? You have a feature in your IncrediMail 2001 email program, called Read Receipts, set so that anyone who receives an offline email from you is supposed to send you an acknowledgement by return email. I don't really think you want this, but every email you post to The Silver List is requesting my email program to send you a Read Receipt. Could you please turn this feature off in your email program? Thank you, Jimmy Joe _ MSN 8 limited-time offer: Join now and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialupxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_newmsn8ishere_3mf -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: cats with ringworm
I adopted a little homeless cat years ago that I contracted ringworm from (in my scalp). The first indication I had when I started using CS that it works was that the ringworm cleared up within about 2 days. I had to keep my scalp clean at all times all these years to avoid flareups of the ringworm. If i didn't wash my hair at least every two days, the ringworm spots would start to swell and itch. Haven't had any trouble since using CS. I also give CS to my llittle birds, cockatiel and canary. They are both fine - it keeps the parasites and bird bacteria away from them. The canary is 15 years old, has cataracts on his eyes, and arthritis in his feet. Wish I'd known about CS years ago - could probably have prevented both conditions I put some CS into their drinking water - they never get just straight CS and they never drink all their water but I think they get enough CS to keep their systems clean. I don't give it all the time - only intermittently. Would probably be just fine for your cats - birds are pretty fragile little critters. I would try the CS for a few weeks on the kitties to see if it helps. You wrote: ...I tried to give a little blast of ozone to a patch of ringworm on a kitten and he went nutsnot surprising! I'm about to try CS. I've never dealt with ringworm on anybody before, either. I got once-a-day topical stuff from the vet plus I'm using grapefruit seed oil in a dilution. Kit . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: READ RECEIPT FEATURE STILL ON
Sorry, have done. I think I didn't understand what you were talking about in your earlier messages but it is now done. My apologies. Subject: CSNicole K - READ RECEIPT FEATURE STILL ON Dear Nicole, I have written to you, privately, twice before about this. Do you recall? You have a feature in your IncrediMail 2001 email program, called Read Receipts, set so that anyone who receives an offline email from you is supposed to send you an acknowledgement by return email. I don't really think you want this, but every email you post to The Silver List is requesting my email program to send you a Read Receipt. Could you please turn this feature off in your email program? Thank you, Jimmy Joe . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: upside down question marks.............
¿¿works when I use the number pad keys but not the ones on top of the letters also hold in alt when you type 0191 appears when you release alt Sincerely Joseph Fritz At 08:32 AM 12/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: Hi (smile), What system do you have? I tried it and no-can-do. Kit At 09:06 AM 12/28/02 -0500, you wrote: to make them you press alt then 0191 on the number pad part of the keyboard. o¿o-- (smile) On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:20:40 -0600 Kit kitcur...@earthlink.net writes: How the Hell do you make upside down question marks?? Malcolm Hi Malcolm, Those come from a Spanish language keyboard. ;-) Kit -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
That's called an OP amp or voltage comparator. The feedback and set point wiring can get complicated. I use an O82 because it will handle up to 36 volts..the only one I've found that does. Ken At 02:14 AM 12/29/2002 -0600, you wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:01:35 -0700, S J Young you...@konnections.net wrote: There is a device called a silicon FET current regulator diode that does the trick. This is really a small integrated circuit, shaped like a small rectifier diode, that limits current flow to a set value. The regulator diodes are small cylinders with about a 1 inch wire coming out of each end of the cylinder. One end of the cylinder is marked with a band around it. Wow!! I've been in electronics for 50 years and hadn't heard of these devices. Thanks for the info. Now all we have to do is come up with a device that will shut off the generator when the electrode voltage gets below a certain point. :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CS and Chemo....herbs
Thanks again, Kit. I think she's a person who takes her doctor's word along with the vet's word as *the* word and I guess my opinion didn't matter. The cat had a severe case of runny bowels and I told her more than once to quit giving him that particular food and continue the cs but she didn't listen to me since I don't have a degree in anything like med or even vet med. Diane Kit wrote: I'm with you, Diane, I mostly stay away from the meds. Altho, gotta say I was glad to have some Vicodin for kidney stones along with Chinese herbs and acupuncturekept me out of the $$$ hospital. Ouch! Not sure about pets, but allergies in people generally mean depleted adrenals. Babies can even be born with depleted adrenals if the mother is depleted and has been 'sucking the fetus' dry in the third trimester. This all lowers immunity, and, CS is going to help kill what the immune system would normally have to deal with, so you're right it, it could only help. Maybe you'd like to pass this alt-treatment for allergies to your friend...not sure it is available near her. Hopefully, she'll get back with the CS and will pressure her vet for answers! Kit http://www.vetnaet.com/about.htmlhttp://www.vetnaet.com/about.html At 07:41 PM 12/28/02 -0600, d.linen wrote: You are right, Kit. There are herbs that work against some meds. I don't take meds so it's not an issue for me. I don't know why her vet told her to quit giving him the CS. I do know she hasn't started giving it to him again though. The whole problem was he was allergic to a certain brand of food and the CS had nothing to do with it and may actually have helped him had she continued to give it to him. diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpost traumatic injuries
There are some who say that CS stimulates the production of stem cells in an injured area. Experience with ripping off a big chunk of skin, pasting it back on with CS and keeping the area covered with a piece of paper towel kept wet with CS till the bleeding stopped leads me to concur. Where normally the area would have swelled up and be puss filled and most would not have reattached, all of the replaced skin turned pink and grew back in a matter of a few days. Only the places that the skin wouldn't stretch to cover developed a scab and took a while to grow back. No sign of it now. I did the same thing last year but the skin would still cover the hole. In 2 days, it was a thin pink line around the patch, reattached skin turned a slightly different shade of pink and so sign of injury in 6 days. Normally, this would take a few weeks. This Old skin comes off a lot easier than it used to and grows back slower. I would know. I take a few square inches off every year. I used to just throw the pieces away because putting them back didn't work. If I ever rip off a finger, I'm gonna give it a try. ;-) In both cases I was so amazed that I tried to document it with photos. They didn't turn out. I guess my hand was too close. Ken At 06:13 AM 12/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: Just wanted to say thanks to whoever posted the info about MSM being good for post traumatic injury. I fell off my scooter while braking slightly to make a turn off a large metal plate covering the road surface on a very stormy rainy day and immediately went down. My scooter landed on my leg and I sustained painful bruising to my shin and both ankles. The shin injury left my leg completely numb for about a week until the swelling started to decrease at which point it became very painful. After reading that MSM is helpful for post traumatic injury I started taking 1000 mg about 3 times a day and it has made a significant difference in the pain level and rate of healing. So, thank you, for that information. I wanted to ask, as well, about how CS affects the immune system's work. Normally, the immune system would be fighting the bugs that CS kills so I wonder what it does to the immune system's effectiveness if CS is doing it's work. Will the immune system still make antibodies and continue doing what it's supposed to do on its own? How does CS interact with the immune system s normal activity? HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpost traumatic injuries/treatments
Do you use just straight CS? My son has eczema... do you think CS rubbed on his skin would make a difference, or will it just run off. ? (due to the watery consistency) Mic Experience with ripping off a big chunk of skin, pasting it back on with CS and keeping the area covered with a piece of paper towel kept wet with CS till the bleeding stopped leads me to concur. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
Steve, presently I am using a 110 VAC with a DC Bridge. The electronic guy that set it up said that the output was 54 VDC. I draw off a very little with a small motor hooked up as a stirrer. What do you think about the # 1N5297 set up with this. Also how do you know when it has reached the 1.0 ma ? Ed Kasper, Santa Cruz, Ca. -Original Message- From: S J Young [mailto:you...@konnections.net] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:02 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator Fellow CS brewers, Not well known is the fact that for about $5 you can easily convert your constant voltage CS generator (e.g. a three nine-volt battery setup) to one that limits the current to assure small particle production and prevent current run-away. Thus your unit would then function the same as the better constant current commercial units. I will try to describe this in non-technical terms so many can take advantage of this. There is a device called a silicon FET current regulator diode that does the trick. This is really a small integrated circuit, shaped like a small rectifier diode, that limits current flow to a set value. The regulator diodes are small cylinders with about a 1 inch wire coming out of each end of the cylinder. One end of the cylinder is marked with a band around it. The part numbers are the series 1N5283 through 1N5314, with the current limits in the range of 0.22 ma thru 4.7 ma, respectively. Probably the one of most interest to us is the 1N5297 that limits the current to 1.0 ma. One manufacturer is Central Semiconductor Corp. Go to www.centralsemi.com and search for 1N5297 if you want to see the specifications and a drawing of the device. Using them is super simple. For example, for a three nine-volt battery system, just cut the wire between the minus terminal of the battery and the silver electrode. Connect the wire from the battery minus-terminal to the banded regulator diode wire. Connect the wire from the silver electrode to the other non-banded regulator diode wire. One can use 2 small wire nuts, available at any hardware store, to make the connections, alligator clips, or solder and tape them. Congratulations - you now have a sophisticated constant current CS generator! When brewing a new batch, the current will start out very small as before -- a few microamps--depending on water purity. As silver production proceeds, the current will rise until it reaches the value set into the regulator diode. Then it will stay constant (e.g. at 1.0 ma for a 1N5297) for the remainder of the brew time. It is impossible for the current to run away and increase beyond the set point, even if the electrodes accidently short together. These regulator diodes are rated to a maximum of 100 volts. That means one could use a higher starting voltage (e.g. 54 volts from six nine-volt batteries) and reduce the brew time (it will take less time for the current to reach 1.0 ma). Again, the higher voltage is perfectly safe as the current cannot run away because of the current limiting effect of the regulator diode. These devices are not widely used so they are not available from many sources such as Radio Shack. One source that sells them is Mouser Electronics. Go to www.mouser.com and search for the part # 1N5297 and you will see the information. When I checked recently, they had about 1,500 of them in stock for a price of $4.29 each. I suppose they have a minimum order, so it would be a good idea for someone to volunteer to order a batch of them for those that express an interest in a group buy. (I don't have time to do this - sorry). I believe the use of a 1N5297 along with a few nine-volt batteries is by far simplest, goof-proof way to make a constant current CS generator. If you give it a try, please let us know how your results. --Steve Young -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/2002
Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
I've got a few emails out for quantity pricing (500, 1000 and 5000 lots), and I'm going to call Motorola tomorrow (they make it and they're local), so I may be able to get a pretty good price on them. I'll let everybody know. Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: ~Ron N r...@megsinet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator American Microsemiconductor, Inc. 133 Kings Road, Madison, NJ 07940 USA Tel: (973) 377-9566 Fax: (973) 377-3078 i...@americanmicrosemi.com http://shop.store.yahoo.com/americanmicrosemiconductor/info.html This company has the 1N5295 (.82 ma) in stock for $3.16 ea. Although they have a $35.00 min. Also ya might want to look into using the LM334Z IC (variable) with a pot or 100 ohm resistor. ~Ron - Original Message - From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator Fellow CS brewers, Not well known is the fact that for about $5 you can easily convert your constant voltage CS generator (e.g. a three nine-volt battery setup) to one that limits the current to assure small particle production and prevent current run-away. Thus your unit would then function the same as the better constant current commercial units. I will try to describe this in non-technical terms so many can take advantage of this. There is a device called a silicon FET current regulator diode that does the trick. This is really a small integrated circuit, shaped like a small rectifier diode, that limits current flow to a set value. The regulator diodes are small cylinders with about a 1 inch wire coming out of each end of the cylinder. One end of the cylinder is marked with a band around it. The part numbers are the series 1N5283 through 1N5314, with the current limits in the range of 0.22 ma thru 4.7 ma, respectively. Probably the one of most interest to us is the 1N5297 that limits the current to 1.0 ma. One manufacturer is Central Semiconductor Corp. Go to www.centralsemi.com and search for 1N5297 if you want to see the specifications and a drawing of the device. Using them is super simple. For example, for a three nine-volt battery system, just cut the wire between the minus terminal of the battery and the silver electrode. Connect the wire from the battery minus-terminal to the banded regulator diode wire. Connect the wire from the silver electrode to the other non-banded regulator diode wire. One can use 2 small wire nuts, available at any hardware store, to make the connections, alligator clips, or solder and tape them. Congratulations - you now have a sophisticated constant current CS generator! When brewing a new batch, the current will start out very small as before -- a few microamps--depending on water purity. As silver production proceeds, the current will rise until it reaches the value set into the regulator diode. Then it will stay constant (e.g. at 1.0 ma for a 1N5297) for the remainder of the brew time. It is impossible for the current to run away and increase beyond the set point, even if the electrodes accidently short together. These regulator diodes are rated to a maximum of 100 volts. That means one could use a higher starting voltage (e.g. 54 volts from six nine-volt batteries) and reduce the brew time (it will take less time for the current to reach 1.0 ma). Again, the higher voltage is perfectly safe as the current cannot run away because of the current limiting effect of the regulator diode. These devices are not widely used so they are not available from many sources such as Radio Shack. One source that sells them is Mouser Electronics. Go to www.mouser.com and search for the part # 1N5297 and you will see the information. When I checked recently, they had about 1,500 of them in stock for a price of $4.29 each. I suppose they have a minimum order, so it would be a good idea for someone to volunteer to order a batch of them for those that express an interest in a group buy. (I don't have time to do this - sorry). I believe the use of a 1N5297 along with a few nine-volt batteries is by far simplest, goof-proof way to make a constant current CS generator. If you give it a try, please let us know how your results. --Steve Young -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSringworm, was Re: CSwas Listowner comments ...now neb ??
Kit, No, no, weepy and nasty referred to cold sores..I don't think ringworm gets weepy, but then I only had it once as a child, about 40 years ago.only had two sores.remember that and remember putting iodine on them umpteen times a day for weeks, everything else is vanished into wherever lost memories go. paula - Original Message - From: Kit kitcur...@earthlink.net Thanks, again, Paula! I'll check in the med cabinet for the DMSO...think I might have some lurking about. Weepy and nasty, ughI do hope I can avoid that!Kit -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSI'm going to ask again...
Hi. I've been on this list for a while. I used to make/take CS everyday. After my last set of rods stopped making CS, I never got around to replacing them. Several colds, flues and sick cats later, I realize I need to make the time to do this again. I only have a small, battery, hand help unit. I need to purchase some wire to make this work. Can someone give me a direct link to a page that sells what I need and clearly tell me what I'm looking for? Last page I was directed to had a dozen different kind of silver wire and I don't know what is best or needed. Second, does the hand help unit really even do anything? I used to think it did, but I know all about the placebo influence. A few of you speak about this unit or that unit you've made or rigged up but I can't find the lists that had all the details, and besides, I am not mechanically inclined (I'm into research, teaching, writing in the humanities). Making a unit, rigging one together from this and that is just out of my skill set. Can any one please advise me? Much thanks, June N. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSI'm going to ask again...
June, The easiest solution for me was to go to a jewelry supply store and ask for .999 fine silver bezel. I even told the clerk it was for making CS and he knew what to recommend. You can get as many inches as you need and it's cheap. It's a flat strip of silver about 1/4 inch wide. Hope this works for your unit. Jules
Re: CSRE: CS and Chemo....herbs
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:59:30 -0600, d.linen li...@ev1.net wrote: Thanks again, Kit. I think she's a person who takes her doctor's word along with the vet's word as *the* word and I guess my opinion didn't matter. The cat had a severe case of runny bowels and I told her more than once to quit giving him that particular food and continue the cs but she didn't listen to me since I don't have a degree in anything like med or even vet med. Don't fault someone for being cautious. Lots of harm has been caused by enthusiasts too. Just because you're right doesn't mean you're convincing. The best you can do is to give someone the information. It's up to them to act on it, or not. It's their life, their choices, their responsibility. You did the right thing. Don't sweat it! Chuck Freedom of speech is wonderful--right up there with the freedom not to listen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpost traumatic injuries/treatments
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:24:06 -0500, Michele Lee ml...@firelandsschools.org wrote: Do you use just straight CS? My son has eczema... do you think CS rubbed on his skin would make a difference, or will it just run off. ? (due to the watery consistency) Mic Adding MSM to his supplements is good for the skin. It cleared up dry scaly elbows for me as a pleasant side effect. I was taking it for back pain. Chuck Give me a straight line and I'll bend it for you -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CS and Chemo....herbs
Oh...too bad! Lotsa people still out there like that... Too bad about the deaf ears to alternative thinking...oh welllife's too short to try to convince a case like that! Sezme, ;-)Kit PS. Nice of you to care enough to make the attempt!! Thanks again, Kit. I think she's a person who takes her doctor's word along with the vet's word as *the* word and I guess my opinion didn't matter. The cat had a severe case of runny bowels and I told her more than once to quit giving him that particular food and continue the cs but she didn't listen to me since I don't have a degree in anything like med or even vet med. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSringworm, was Re: CSwas Listowner comments ...now neb ??
Oh...gotcha I was wondering how long this would take to clear up...forgot to ask the vet. I hope it will take less than two weeks if I use CS! Kit At 10:12 AM 12/29/02 -0700, you wrote: Kit, No, no, weepy and nasty referred to cold sores..I don't think ringworm gets weepy, but then I only had it once as a child, about 40 years ago.only had two sores.remember that and remember putting iodine on them umpteen times a day for weeks, everything else is vanished into wherever lost memories go. paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSI'm going to ask again...
Hi June, These folks sell silver wire (and gens) They were very prompt in shipping to me. Maybe others have suggestions, too. Kit http://www.utopiasilver.com/silver.htm Can someone give me a direct link to a page that sells what I need and clearly tell me what I'm looking for? Last page I was directed to had a dozen different kind of silver wire and I don't know what is best or needed. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CS and Chemo....herbs
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:59:30 -0600, d.linen li...@ev1.net wrote: Thanks again, Kit. I think she's a person who takes her doctor's word along with the vet's word as *the* word and I guess my opinion didn't matter. The cat had a severe case of runny bowels and I told her more than once to quit giving him that particular food and continue the cs but she didn't listen to me since I don't have a degree in anything like med or even vet med. Don't fault someone for being cautious. Lots of harm has been caused by enthusiasts too. Just because you're right doesn't mean you're convincing. The best you can do is to give someone the information. It's up to them to act on it, or not. It's their life, their choices, their responsibility. You did the right thing. Don't sweat it! Chuck Thanks Chuck. It cost her hundreds of dollars in vet bills to come to the same conclusion that I had, that he was allergic to that particular food. The vet kept saying he was fine on it when he stayed overnight and refused to look at that possibility. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGoodbye for now question please
Federal Reserve Note...our paper money system. a rose by any other name wrote: Hi James, I did a search for fn or b with Common Web Acronyms and have come up with nothing... could you please clarify... thanks, a rose... _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_advancedjmf_3mf -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
Ron, The 1N5295 at 0.82 ma would be a good choice. Yeah, the LM334Z with a single resistor approach is much cheaper, and the parts are much more available. However, I was trying to introduce the non-techies to a method that was so simple and foolproof (a single two-terminal device) that they would not feel intimidated with more complicated approaches. Also, the LM334Z is only good for about 35 volts max, so that would limit it to setups with four or less nine-volt batteries (not a serious limitation.) --Steve Young - Original Message - From: ~Ron N r...@megsinet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator American Microsemiconductor, Inc. 133 Kings Road, Madison, NJ 07940 USA Tel: (973) 377-9566 Fax: (973) 377-3078 i...@americanmicrosemi.com http://shop.store.yahoo.com/americanmicrosemiconductor/info.html This company has the 1N5295 (.82 ma) in stock for $3.16 ea. Although they have a $35.00 min. Also ya might want to look into using the LM334Z IC (variable) with a pot or 100 ohm resistor. ~Ron - Original Message - From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe Ken.....brownish stuff
The brown stuff that I am buying is called mesosilver, it says 15ppm on the bottle. I get it from http://www.purestcolloids.com/index.htm, you can check it out there.On the side of the bottle it says highest concentration of particles are 1.4mn? All I know is that it is like a golden brown color. I am looking forward to making my own. Kendra On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:55:17 -0500 Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net writes: That you'll have to determine by trial and error. Every setup is different. When you start seeing golden cloud, it's probably about time to quit. You'll get the hang of it. If you dilute the brownish stuff, what color is it then? If it's not over 100 PPM, it's got no business being brown...like, if it' -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
Excellent idea, Trying to locate somewhere here in Oz that has them. If not, will contact Mouser Elec see if they will mail overseas. Thank you, Margaret. - Original Message - From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator Fellow CS brewers, Not well known is the fact that for about $5 you can easily convert your constant voltage CS generator (e.g. a three nine-volt battery setup) to one that limits the current to assure small particle production and prevent current run-away. Thus your unit would then function the same as the better constant current commercial units. I will try to describe this in non-technical terms so many can take advantage of this. There is a device called a silicon FET current regulator diode that does the trick. This is really a small integrated circuit, shaped like a small rectifier diode, that limits current flow to a set value. The regulator diodes are small cylinders with about a 1 inch wire coming out of each end of the cylinder. One end of the cylinder is marked with a band around it. The part numbers are the series 1N5283 through 1N5314, with the current limits in the range of 0.22 ma thru 4.7 ma, respectively. Probably the one of most interest to us is the 1N5297 that limits the current to 1.0 ma. One manufacturer is Central Semiconductor Corp. Go to www.centralsemi.com and search for 1N5297 if you want to see the specifications and a drawing of the device. Using them is super simple. For example, for a three nine-volt battery system, just cut the wire between the minus terminal of the battery and the silver electrode. Connect the wire from the battery minus-terminal to the banded regulator diode wire. Connect the wire from the silver electrode to the other non-banded regulator diode wire. One can use 2 small wire nuts, available at any hardware store, to make the connections, alligator clips, or solder and tape them. Congratulations - you now have a sophisticated constant current CS generator! When brewing a new batch, the current will start out very small as before -- a few microamps--depending on water purity. As silver production proceeds, the current will rise until it reaches the value set into the regulator diode. Then it will stay constant (e.g. at 1.0 ma for a 1N5297) for the remainder of the brew time. It is impossible for the current to run away and increase beyond the set point, even if the electrodes accidently short together. These regulator diodes are rated to a maximum of 100 volts. That means one could use a higher starting voltage (e.g. 54 volts from six nine-volt batteries) and reduce the brew time (it will take less time for the current to reach 1.0 ma). Again, the higher voltage is perfectly safe as the current cannot run away because of the current limiting effect of the regulator diode. These devices are not widely used so they are not available from many sources such as Radio Shack. One source that sells them is Mouser Electronics. Go to www.mouser.com and search for the part # 1N5297 and you will see the information. When I checked recently, they had about 1,500 of them in stock for a price of $4.29 each. I suppose they have a minimum order, so it would be a good idea for someone to volunteer to order a batch of them for those that express an interest in a group buy. (I don't have time to do this - sorry). I believe the use of a 1N5297 along with a few nine-volt batteries is by far simplest, goof-proof way to make a constant current CS generator. If you give it a try, please let us know how your results. --Steve Young -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 12/2/2002
RE: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
Ed wrote, Steve, presently I am using a 110 VAC with a DC Bridge. The electronic guy that set it up said that the output was 54 VDC. I draw off a very little with a small motor hooked up as a stirrer. What do you think about the # 1N5297 set up with this. Also how do you know when it has reached the 1.0 ma ? Ed Kasper, Santa Cruz, Ca. I'm not Steve, but there are couple of points to consider: 1) My 110VAC system with a full-wave DC bridge rectifier, capacitive ripple filtering and current limiting puts out 155VDC without connection to any load. 2) The system output voltage drops to 120VDC when initially connected to distilled water, 7 submerged silver electrodes and a current limit of 3 milliamps. A current limit of 1ma (the 1N5297 value) would allow output voltage to rise to about 145VDC. 3) The specs on the 1N5297 say that the Peak Operating Voltage (POV) is 100 volts, which would be DC volts for this case. If your system really does output 54VDC, using the 1N5297 would be fine. If your system is like mine, and it should be unless there is some special voltage regulator in the circuit, using the 1N5297 as a current limiter would destroy it by exceeding the POV rating of the diode. Just my 2 cents, Jimmy Joe _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWaterwise?
I just got a heads up on home distilling. When checking the archives I didn't come across much on the brand I'm using. And, I don't have a meter. Has anyone taken any readings on the Waterwise (1 gal. per 4 hrs, BTW)? ...or any other comments?Thanks, Kit -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: upside down question marks.............
OK, you guys are sending me millions of emails and some of them over and over so will you please stop. Thank you
Re: CSpost traumatic injuries/treatments
Hi Mic, Yes I have had very good reports of CS for eczema. If CS is sprayed on it is very soothing. Tony Michele Lee wrote: Do you use just straight CS? My son has eczema... do you think CS rubbed on his skin would make a difference, or will it just run off. ? (due to the watery consistency) Mic -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: upside down question marks.............
fuzzy1...@aol.com wrote: OK, you guys are sending me millions of emails and some of them over and over so will you please stop. Thank you Somehow I doubt you are receiving millions of email from the list. DL -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpost traumatic injuries
Hi Ken, thanks for your reply. What are you doing that rips chunks of skin from your body? ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 29, 2002 08:16:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSpost traumatic injuries There are some who say that CS stimulates the production of stem cells in an injured area. Experience with ripping off a big chunk of skin, pasting it back on with CS and keeping the area covered with a piece of paper towel kept wet with CS till the bleeding stopped leads me to concur. Where normally the area would have swelled up and be puss filled and most would not have reattached, all of the replaced skin turned pink and grew back in a matter of a few days. Only the places that the skin wouldn't stretch to cover developed a scab and took a while to grow back. No sign of it now. I did the same thing last year but the skin would still cover the hole. In 2 days, it was a thin pink line around the patch, reattached skin turned a slightly different shade of pink and so sign of injury in 6 days. Normally, this would take a few weeks. This Old skin comes off a lot easier than it used to and grows back slower. I would know. I take a few square inches off every year. I used to just throw the pieces away because putting them back didn't work. If I ever rip off a finger, I'm gonna give it a try. ;-) In both cases I was so amazed that I tried to document it with photos. They didn't turn out. I guess my hand was too close. Ken At 06:13 AM 12/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: Just wanted to say thanks to whoever posted the info about MSM being good for post traumatic injury. I fell off my scooter while braking slightly to make a turn off a large metal plate covering the road surface on a very stormy rainy day and immediately went down. My scooter landed on my leg and I sustained painful bruising to my shin and both ankles. The shin injury left my leg completely numb for about a week until the swelling started to decrease at which point it became very painful. After reading that MSM is helpful for post traumatic injury I started taking 1000 mg about 3 times a day and it has made a significant difference in the pain level and rate of healing. So, thank you, for that information. I wanted to ask, as well, about how CS affects the immune system's work. Normally, the immune system would be fighting the bugs that CS kills so I wonder what it does to the immune system's effectiveness if CS is doing it s work. Will the immune system still make antibodies and continue doing what it's supposed to do on its own? How does CS interact with the immune system s normal activity? HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .
Re: CSRe: upside down question marks.............
Sounds like you have an email virus. From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 29, 2002 06:57:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSRe: upside down question marks. OK, you guys are sending me millions of emails and some of them over and over so will you please stop. Thank you -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: upside down question marks.............
Well, no; she has the silver list on her computer so her mom could check out some of the data in the archives; I'll take care of it. Malcolm At 09:49 PM 12/29/02 -0800, you wrote: Sounds like you have an email virus. From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 29, 2002 06:57:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSRe: upside down question marks. OK, you guys are sending me millions of emails and some of them over and over so will you please stop. Thank you -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator
Hi Steve, I checked out the data sheet but I don't understand it. At the top it says the device will dissipate 600 mW. That's good. But there is a parameter called Limiting Voltage. It is described as Vl x Il = .8 Ip. and says it is 1.35 volts for that device (1N5297). I read it as the load voltage time the load current (wattage) is equal to 800 microamps. That's bad. Can you drop more than 1.35 volts across the device before it becomes hot and doesn't work anymore? Thanks for your help. Andy From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator Fellow CS brewers, Not well known is the fact that for about $5 you can easily convert your constant voltage CS generator (e.g. a three nine-volt battery setup) to one that limits the current to assure small particle production and prevent current run-away. Thus your unit would then function the same as the better constant current commercial units. I will try to describe this in non-technical terms so many can take advantage of this. There is a device called a silicon FET current regulator diode that does the trick. This is really a small integrated circuit, shaped like a small rectifier diode, that limits current flow to a set value. The regulator diodes are small cylinders with about a 1 inch wire coming out of each end of the cylinder. One end of the cylinder is marked with a band around it. The part numbers are the series 1N5283 through 1N5314, with the current limits in the range of 0.22 ma thru 4.7 ma, respectively. Probably the one of most interest to us is the 1N5297 that limits the current to 1.0 ma. One manufacturer is Central Semiconductor Corp. Go to www.centralsemi.com and search for 1N5297 if you want to see the specifications and a drawing of the device. Using them is super simple. For example, for a three nine-volt battery system, just cut the wire between the minus terminal of the battery and the silver electrode. Connect the wire from the battery minus-terminal to the banded regulator diode wire. Connect the wire from the silver electrode to the other non-banded regulator diode wire. One can use 2 small wire nuts, available at any hardware store, to make the connections, alligator clips, or solder and tape them. Congratulations - you now have a sophisticated constant current CS generator! When brewing a new batch, the current will start out very small as before -- a few microamps--depending on water purity. As silver production proceeds, the current will rise until it reaches the value set into the regulator diode. Then it will stay constant (e.g. at 1.0 ma for a 1N5297) for the remainder of the brew time. It is impossible for the current to run away and increase beyond the set point, even if the electrodes accidently short together. These regulator diodes are rated to a maximum of 100 volts. That means one could use a higher starting voltage (e.g. 54 volts from six nine-volt batteries) and reduce the brew time (it will take less time for the current to reach 1.0 ma). Again, the higher voltage is perfectly safe as the current cannot run away because of the current limiting effect of the regulator diode. These devices are not widely used so they are not available from many sources such as Radio Shack. One source that sells them is Mouser Electronics. Go to www.mouser.com and search for the part # 1N5297 and you will see the information. When I checked recently, they had about 1,500 of them in stock for a price of $4.29 each. I suppose they have a minimum order, so it would be a good idea for someone to volunteer to order a batch of them for those that express an interest in a group buy. (I don't have time to do this - sorry). I believe the use of a 1N5297 along with a few nine-volt batteries is by far simplest, goof-proof way to make a constant current CS generator. If you give it a try, please let us know how your results. --Steve Young
