Re: CS> curing bowels??
Hi; Guess I put my foot in it here; I was more interested in getting the point across that the implication that CS never made it to the lower gut was misleading and could be harmful. I was not trying to address every use of CS by mouth, and in fact go along with Marshall's position above. My comment re: diarrhea and children was to warn against indiscriminate and repeated dosing with CS, particularly of kids and where the diarrhea persists, since it could lead to dehydration. My personal experience is that drinking lotsa CS can indeed lead to diarrhea. Take care, Malcolm At 07:23 PM 5/14/03 -0600, you wrote: My personal experience as a person who has had a lot of diarrhea due to various causes, is that CS invariably stops it, and faster than anything else I've ever tried in 12 years. The idea that CS can cause diarrhea is news to me paula > > > > On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:25:34 -0700 Malcolm Stebbins writes: > > > Also, CS can provoke diarrhea, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03
CS>Re: OT Brooks Bradley
>> http://www.jovo.com.hk/lipoicacid.rtf > Do you think you can send me the HTML version... Not all browsers can read the .rtf extensions; here's a link to the HTML version: http://makeashorterlink.com/?O11C12294 jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
Hi Mike; I agree that molds and fungi are real survivors, but they are not the older organisms you imply; they developed much later than bacteria and viruses, and are more similar to us i.e., animals than bacteria and viruses are. This is one of the reasons that it is difficult to control fungal infections in animals, what damages them damages us. Oh, Damn!! Malcolm At 06:51 PM 5/14/03 -0400, you wrote: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58963.html > Re: CS>mold headaches garlic > From: ian_ontario > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:15:16 > Hi: > You can obtain ozone machines on E-Bay [...] Ozone machines might work in a car, where you can get very high concentration. They might work in heating registers for the same reason, where the ozone can come in direct contact with the spores for a long period. But many reports I've come across indicate ozone machines might not work in large areas like a basement, the undercarpet, in clothing fibres, or behind walls or other areas where the ozone can't reach. Spores are among the most difficult living things to kill. Remember, molds and fungus are among the first living things on the planet. They have had 4 billion years to adapt to the natural ozone and ultraviolet energy from sunlight, and some spores may travel for years until they find a suitable place to grow. They are designed for harsh conditions. Ozone might be great for bacteria and viruses that are easily killed, but never underestimate the survival qualities of mold and fungus. If it works - Great! It's certainly worth trying. But always have a Plan B. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03
Re: CS>OT Brooks Bradley
Jay, just copy and paste this into your browser address Http://www.jovo.com.hk/lipoicacid.rtf -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>why not ionic zinc, gold, etc?
hi all why can't we get other metals and make ionic water with our silver machines? -- best william meyer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT Brooks Bradley
I am interested. I did not have difficulty doing the search engine but if you have no problem with this... Do you think you can send me the HTML version. I hate searching the net and sorting through articles and web sites Thanks Jay guess...@msn.com P.S. I wanted to ask in a private e-mail but I didn't have your address. The from box just said Brooks Bradley. If you encounter difficulty in gaining access to the url, contact me off-list and I will send you an HTML version, privately. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT;general comment
In the recent past we conducted a series of evaluations involving Alpha Lipoic Acid (Thiotic Acid)..primarily in address of diabetic neuralgia complications. We were inspired to investigate this approach based upon the unsually productive studies/research of Dr. Burton Berkson and associates. while our activities produced quite positive results.it is toward another, complimentary effect of alpha lipoic acid.that I elect to refer. To wit: Dr. Berkson's original experimental research addressing hepatic necrosis (resulting from consuming toxic mushroomsespecially the Amanita family. This affliction is among the most painful of recorded episode types known to afflict humankind. Prior to Dr. Berkson's seminal work, nothing (of true effect) was known that would arrest the progress of this most debilitating insult. I include a url referring to an article appearing in Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine Vol. 13, No. 1, 1998. Http://www.jovo.com.hk/lipoicacid.rtf. If you fail to get the url, go to Google search engine and type it in the command box..when the listing occurs move the cursor to the HTML comment near the top...and clickthis should take you to the article. There are several other, most worthwhile, protocols addressed in the body of this article. It is quite valuable (in my opinion) for persons interested in any form of liver insult and/or pancreatic involvements to digest this article. The dramatic results obtained by Dr. Berkson have, to my knowledge, never been duplicated by others.using any form of known protocol. The sorrowful fact that little information announcing this powerful tool..has failed to blossom within the allopathic community--at least to date, is one of the more despicable achievements of medical officialdom. If you encounter difficulty in gaining access to the url, contact me off-list and I will send you an HTML version, privately. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Alternative Health in California
> ...It sounded to me as if > the new laws allow Californians to apply for, and have health insurance > paid to the so-called 'alternative health' professionals. i.e. > chiropractors, acupuncturists and others could receive health insurance > dollars for services rendered... My California HMO, HealthNet, for an extra $15/mo, covers me for chiropractic, acupuncture and vision services (package deal); must choose from their list of providers. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Alternative Health in California
CSers, Several months ago I read something written by Tim Bolen, that California has passed some unique legislation. It sounded to me as if the new laws allow Californians to apply for, and have health insurance paid to the so-called 'alternative health' professionals. i.e. chiropractors, acupuncturists and others could receive health insurance dollars for services rendered. Am I being simplistic? Did I miss something? Can somebody please explain to me what happened and the ramifications? Thanks, Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Warns Promoters of SARS-Related Products- OUTRAGE
CSEnthusiasts, I know this story is a little old, but it's still not sitting right with me, and following is the NY Times article. We all know about 'alternative medicine' bashing, but I'd like to express WHAT I FIND TO BE THE SCARIEST PART: The warning, following, is also against: "OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE SAID TO STRENGTHEN THE IMMUNE SYSTEM." This assertion is utterly outrageous!! Is the public being told that it is not a good idea to attempt bolstering the immune system against SARS?!?! It's seems there is a new low in the depth of the criminal mentality within our government. Reid, once again remembering the motto of Thomas Jefferson, found within his signet ring: "Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God." > This article from NYTimes.com > U.S. Warns Promoters of SARS-Related Products > > May 10, 2003 > By DENISE GRADY > > The government said yesterday that it had warned more than 40 Web site > operators and companies to stop making > false > claims that their products can prevent, cure or treat SARS. The products > include air purifiers, sprays and > wipes, > masks, latex gloves, and supplements like colloidal silver, beta glucan, > echinacea, mushrooms and other items > that are > said to strengthen the immune system. > > The Federal Trade Commission and the Food and Drug Administration have sent > letters and e-mail warnings to > Web > site operators, manufacturers and distributors, warning them to stop making > false or exaggerated claims. > > In a telephone news conference, Howard Beales, director of consumer > protection at F.T.C., said that "scam > artists trying to make a fast buck" were selling the products and that they > had been warned that it was > illegal to make unproven claims. > > Dr. Mark B. McClellan, head of the Food and Drug Administration, said the > products being promoted were > useless against SARS. He said the two agencies were working together on the > problem, with the trade > commission handling Web sites and advertising, and the drug agency regulating > what manufacturers can say > about their products. > > Dr. McClellan and Mr. Beales said that if the companies did not comply with > the warnings, the government > could order > refunds to consumers and impose fines, seize products, seek injunctions and > pursue civil or criminal contempt > > proceedings. > > Rob Dowler, of Canada's ministry of consumer and business services, said the > Canadian government was taking > similar > steps. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/10/science/sciencespecial/10INFE.html?ex=1053572628&ei=1&en=1d77c1e2ea0bd744 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> curing bowels??
My personal experience as a person who has had a lot of diarrhea due to various causes, is that CS invariably stops it, and faster than anything else I've ever tried in 12 years. The idea that CS can cause diarrhea is news to me paula > > > > On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:25:34 -0700 Malcolm Stebbins writes: > > > Also, CS can provoke diarrhea, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> curing bowels??
If you search the archives you will find that my opinion, and tests that I have run, indicate that CS has little effect in the bowels of a healthy person, not because it does not make it there, but because CS has little effect if there is no particle mobility. Thus loose bowls will result in killing of what it there, whereas a firm stool will not. The best of all worlds as far as I am concerned. Marshall Melody D Harris wrote: > well, i am far from any expert, but my collie who > is almost completely down due to DJD (degenerative > joint disease) has had loose stools going on 3yrs! > then about 3mos ago i put this whole household > on CS and not only did wolfie's (the collie) bowels > clear up! so did our iggie's and mine! the 3 of us > has had a time with it, and the doc could not find > what was wrong, or the vets! > > now we are all stronger, healthier and fatter. no > more loose torn up stools for our pets, and > my IBS is down to a roar and i have gained > 5 lbs! this is good. i believe the CS gets all > the way down there. > > JMHO > > melody harris > 29 palms, CA > > On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:25:34 -0700 Malcolm Stebbins writes: > > I'm not sure what you're claiming here, but if you mean that CS > > doesn't > > reach the lower gut, previous tests have demonstrated that about ten > > > > percent is excreted through the bowel. See Frank Key's site. > > Also, CS can provoke diarrhea, and diarrhea leads to excessive water > > loss; > > in children prolonged diarrhea causes dehydration which is sometimes > > severe > > enough to be life threatening and is a more severe threat to their > > lives > > than the disease or dysfunction causing it. > > > > At 11:57 PM 5/13/03 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >Yes dear But CS don't get down to there . Hell I don't know how to > > say it > > >. It can not hurt you I don't care how much you drink it won't hurt > > you. > > >If I am wrong SUE me, Kill me , I am still right. > > >C Creel writes: > > >>Hank said: > > >>< > >>And it is BS you don't wipe out anything by drinking CS.>> > > >> ** Hank, there is no way that CS is selective to unwanted > > >> bacteria. As far as CS is concerned, bacteria is bacteria > > >>Catherine > > >>-- > > >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > > silver. > > >>Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > > http://silverlist.org > > >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >>Silver-list archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > >>List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > >Sincerely Yours, Hank. > > >Very Interesting Sites > > >http://www.babelmagazine.com > > >http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html > > >http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html > > >http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html > > >http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html > > >http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html > > > > > >Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. > > >More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, > > >WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, > > >Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. > > >http://freemail.myecom.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03 > >
Re: CS>ozone machines,,
Hi AkaJhon; There are a couple of models of air-fed ozone generators that do not produce nitric oxide, http://sotainstruments.com for one - it depends on the technology they use ...but anyway you should see all the positive data on nitric oxide. It's produced by the body for about 30 health benefits. I'm still looking into the difference between NO you might swallow and NO that is created by your own cells, to determine if there's much of a difference. On the subject of lung irritation from nitric oxide in the air, here's detail that I happened to send out today to a former respiratory specialist, especially with regard to sensitive individuals... this is of interest to all, as we'll see more of medical ozone therapy and air purification in the future, and this exact topic often arises. Duncan Crow (ozone therapist) THE QUERY > Ozone in itself can be quite dangerous. It destroys lung tissue and > causes all sorts of inflammation reactions in the body. > > I would never recommend using an ozone generator. Many PWCs are made > sicker by ozone. THE REPLY Contrary to what you might have read, ozone, even the high concentrations from a medical ozone generator, is not dangerous if handled correctly and it does not cause 'all sorts of inflammation reactions' either. I should point out two things about ozone that you might not have come across in your training as a respiratory therapist: 1) Ozone especially irritates lungs that have substances in them that can be broken down to form irritants. That applies to most but not to all of us, and that may be why many CWFs do not react unfavourably to the low amount of ozone a room air ozonator generates, which is strictly controlled by federal regulation. Healthy lung tissue has high levels of the antioxidant glutathione to handle the oxidative threat of low levels of ozone. 2) Many manufacturers of ozone equipment do not tell you this but their ozone generators may put out levels also of nitric oxide, which forms nitric acid in contact with the fluid in the lungs. This is more of an irritant to healthy lung tissue than the ozone. I would recommend an ozone machine that produces no nitric acid to some people especially those who appear to be sensitive. Since you're here in an alternative health discussion group I probably don't need to point this out to you but the FDA uses a scare tactic on their web site by saying "ozone is a toxic form of oxygen". The details of the data were that in one study of mice, the mice quickly recovered from the initial pulmonary edema that occurred during the one study referred to, and became tolerant of the ozone levels given although those levels were high. Ozone has never been shown to be toxic; we're running into one of the commerce protection mechanisms initiated by Big Pharma and enforced by their lapdogs in the FDA. In fact, in countries where ozone therapy is legal it is one of the leading therapies, and also in fact, myalgia is one of the 254 diseases treatable by ozone therapy. Teewinot, as a specialist you should know that although oxidative threats are well handled in healthy lung tissue, CWFs and other diseased clients are usually in a state of chronic oxidative stress. They are measurably low on the body's main antioxidant protection in the lungs and elsewhere and because of this antioxidant deficiency they have reduced ability to withstand oxidative assault. The antioxidant glutathione is particularly crucial to health, and in fact, low glutathione aggavates the disease process. As Dr. Cheney has bee showing, one of the main therapies for disease including CFS/FM is increased antioxidant intake including and especially glutathione precursors, which are found in cold-processed whey isolate and selenium (another main therapy being HGH increase). This applies to CFS and to respiratory problems, and if you're not including that in your advice to people, your information to them is not as complete as it could be. As a former respiratory specialist you might be especially interested in knowing that COPD and asthma also respond well to antioxidant therapy. You will find details on http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/medline_links.html > I use to belong on a 'ozone' list a year or two ago,, > bottom line is that only a O2 fed machine will produce 'pure' ozone.. An > 'air' fed will produce a mixture of strange gases,ie nitric oxide because > air is not pure O2. It will kill mold etc.,,and will allso kill > electronics etc because O2 is very corrosive..I have used my machine with > that in mind,,I would not breathe it w/o a pure O2 source..but I have > killed mold etc,,and aired the room out afterwards. > All this was info from the top Oxone Guru...not me.. > IMHO,,YMMV -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To
Re: CS> curing bowels??
Hi Melody; I couldn't help but notice your post and this reply is within my expertise. IBS comes with a large degree of oxidative stress, that is, free radical damage in the bowel, similar to Crohn's and colitis. Regardless of the source of the irritation, this ongoing process/damage can be quenched with an antioxidant program in addition to dietary changes and bacterial kill of the improper bowel ecology as you are doing now. http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/medline_links.html Have a look at the medical archives and you'll see... some of my abnormal bowel clients are pretty well back to a normal diet again. regards, Duncan > now we are all stronger, healthier and fatter. no > more loose torn up stools for our pets, and > my IBS is down to a roar and i have gained > 5 lbs! this is good. i believe the CS gets all > the way down there. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>lyme and cs
The rest of the story... The account posted by Rob Allen comes from my website, http://lymesupport.com (a.k.a., http://oikourgos.com/trisha). An update of my account and other family members is on another page there. I am doing very well and never need anything for Lyme symptoms any longer. I keep it on hand for occasional use for colds and other viruses and as a preventative when one of us is exposed to something. I have not had a triad of Lyme symptoms for years. Once in a while when the weather's cold, my bones or a couple joints might ache, but these arthritic symptoms have largely subsided since I gave up coffee (even decaf). I still credit colloidal silver with resolving the last of my stubborn symptoms. I recently attended a Lyme seminar where a doctor was asked, "Can you ever completely get rid of Lyme disease?" His response made sense to me. He said he knows many patients have apparently completely recovered, whereas others who seem to have recovered end up relapsing in a time of stress. He said when someone gets Strep throat and takes antibiotics, this does not completely rid him of the bacteria that causes it. But it brings the count down to a level where you can co-exist with it and not have symptoms. Likewise, with Lyme disease, the borrelia bacteria is not completely killed by anything.This just isn't possible. Whereas it is initially a systemic and active infection, one can get to the point that it is controlled and recognized by his/her body and he/she no longer need antibiotics. Once in a while, there's a little localized attack (i.e., in a joint, or maybe forgetfulness or some other symptom) but the body responds to it like it would to an immunization. Far less a bother than the full blown infection was. I think CS saw me through that phase of recovery; I was still fighting active infection, but within weeks, the symptoms nearly all disappeared except for the Feb. attack and the random triads of symptoms over the next several months. Please, everybody beware, there are other tick-borne illnesses with which a Lyme victim is also co-infected with, challenging the immune system even more and stalling recovery. These include ehrlichiosis, babesiosis and bartonella. I believe there are a couple others too. So if you have Lyme disease, make sure you are screened for these other diseases. Also, there are various strains of Lyme (borreliosis) and the various cycles plus your response to the toxins they create when they are killed off can be anywhere from negligible to absolutely awful. For more information, go to http://lyme.org , homesite of the Lyme Disease Foundation. My website is not updated on each of these other diseases yet. And beware; there are a few national Lyme organizations that exclusively represent doctors who think nearly anyone can be cured in 2 weeks with antibiotics and anything else is quackery. Don't bother with those kinds of sites for gathering info on Lyme disease. Nancy, founder, Tick-related Illnesses Self-Help Alliance
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
"The squeaky wheel get's the oil!" That saying is very true. Call them daily until they get annoyed and are forced to do something to make you shut-up. Jay Call your health department and have them investigate. If they don't do anything, call all the government departments you can find until you locate someone who will do something. Make a big stink and don't take flimsy excuses. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> curing bowels??
well, i am far from any expert, but my collie who is almost completely down due to DJD (degenerative joint disease) has had loose stools going on 3yrs! then about 3mos ago i put this whole household on CS and not only did wolfie's (the collie) bowels clear up! so did our iggie's and mine! the 3 of us has had a time with it, and the doc could not find what was wrong, or the vets! now we are all stronger, healthier and fatter. no more loose torn up stools for our pets, and my IBS is down to a roar and i have gained 5 lbs! this is good. i believe the CS gets all the way down there. JMHO melody harris 29 palms, CA On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:25:34 -0700 Malcolm Stebbins writes: > I'm not sure what you're claiming here, but if you mean that CS > doesn't > reach the lower gut, previous tests have demonstrated that about ten > > percent is excreted through the bowel. See Frank Key's site. > Also, CS can provoke diarrhea, and diarrhea leads to excessive water > loss; > in children prolonged diarrhea causes dehydration which is sometimes > severe > enough to be life threatening and is a more severe threat to their > lives > than the disease or dysfunction causing it. > > At 11:57 PM 5/13/03 -0600, you wrote: > > >Yes dear But CS don't get down to there . Hell I don't know how to > say it > >. It can not hurt you I don't care how much you drink it won't hurt > you. > >If I am wrong SUE me, Kill me , I am still right. > >C Creel writes: > >>Hank said: > >>< >>And it is BS you don't wipe out anything by drinking CS.>> > >> ** Hank, there is no way that CS is selective to unwanted > >> bacteria. As far as CS is concerned, bacteria is bacteria > >>Catherine > >>-- > >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > >>Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >>Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >>List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > >Sincerely Yours, Hank. > >Very Interesting Sites > >http://www.babelmagazine.com > >http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html > >http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html > >http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html > >http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html > >http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html > > > >Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. > >More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, > >WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, > >Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. > >http://freemail.myecom.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03 >
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
Dear Malcolm, You said: <> ** Actually, I used water that had Prill Beads soaking in it. I think we have some people here who have experiemented with this more extensively than I. Neil, are you out there? Could you pleae comment if you are? Thanks. << I live in a high humidity - part of the year - environment and any food not securely wrapped will mold quickly. I've used CS in milk (one glug per half gallon) and on blocks of cheese, with great success; thinking of spraying my whole food environment with it - perhaps even parts of the garden. Sounds silly, but who knows??>> ** It doesn't sound silly at all to me. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
Dear Glenda, You said: <> ** I'm talking about cleaning mold up with magnesium. If a person is magnesium deficient hundreds of problems can occur. You can read about magnesium here: http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=Article&ID=541 http://www.mgwater.com/ Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>ozone machines,,
I use to belong on a 'ozone' list a year or two ago,, bottom line is that only a O2 fed machine will produce 'pure' ozone.. An 'air' fed will produce a mixture of strange gases,ie nitric oxide because air is not pure O2. It will kill mold etc.,,and will allso kill electronics etc because O2 is very corrosive..I have used my machine with that in mind,,I would not breathe it w/o a pure O2 source..but I have killed mold etc,,and aired the room out afterwards. All this was info from the top Oxone Guru...not me.. IMHO,,YMMV
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58963.html > Re: CS>mold headaches garlic > From: ian_ontario > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:15:16 > Hi: > You can obtain ozone machines on E-Bay [...] Ozone machines might work in a car, where you can get very high concentration. They might work in heating registers for the same reason, where the ozone can come in direct contact with the spores for a long period. But many reports I've come across indicate ozone machines might not work in large areas like a basement, the undercarpet, in clothing fibres, or behind walls or other areas where the ozone can't reach. Spores are among the most difficult living things to kill. Remember, molds and fungus are among the first living things on the planet. They have had 4 billion years to adapt to the natural ozone and ultraviolet energy from sunlight, and some spores may travel for years until they find a suitable place to grow. They are designed for harsh conditions. Ozone might be great for bacteria and viruses that are easily killed, but never underestimate the survival qualities of mold and fungus. If it works - Great! It's certainly worth trying. But always have a Plan B. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
I've got the Alpine, it works great. Jim ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi: You can obtain ozone machines on E-Bay, - do a search for Living Air, Alpine Air, Ecoquest International and all of those machines work well at killing pathogens in the air and on surfaces as well as destroying chemicals and eliminating odors and animal dander etc. Different size units do different areas. I just won a couple of bids for units, got one in the house and was amazed at the results. Initially I had borrowed one for two weeks during my first quarantine from exposure to SARS here in Toronto. If I was going to get sick, I didn't want my family to get sick as well. Ian - Original Message - From: "Jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: Re: CS>mold headaches garlic I had an extremely bad mold situation in my car a few years ago and brought it to a auto body shop to replace the carpeting, they put an ozone producing machine in the car overnight and it completely killed the mold. A few years later I had a home in NC with a heat register directly in front of the kitchen sink, apparently over the years water and whatever else fell into this register and became very moldy, the odor was extremely bad. I bought an ozone machine and put it over the register overnight and it completely killed the odor. These machines are expensive but great to have in humid areas of the south. I've seen them for sale in drug stores, but they may be available in rental stores for overnight use. These machines should be in every home where allergies are a problem. Jim Mary Lou Borgert wrote: on 5/13/03 1:48 AM, Mike Monett at ncrffn...@sneakemail.com wrote: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58884.html Re: CS>mold headaches garlic From: Mike Monett Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:06:41 How does one check the humidity in the house? Yes, I feel better outside. Mary, I'd make a lousy doctor. I forgot two of the most fundamental questions: 1. What is the humidity in your house? 2. Do your symptoms improve when you leave the house for a while? Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
Hi: You can obtain ozone machines on E-Bay, - do a search for Living Air, Alpine Air, Ecoquest International and all of those machines work well at killing pathogens in the air and on surfaces as well as destroying chemicals and eliminating odors and animal dander etc. Different size units do different areas. I just won a couple of bids for units, got one in the house and was amazed at the results. Initially I had borrowed one for two weeks during my first quarantine from exposure to SARS here in Toronto. If I was going to get sick, I didn't want my family to get sick as well. Ian - Original Message - From: "Jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: Re: CS>mold headaches garlic > I had an extremely bad mold situation in my car a few years ago and > brought it to a auto body shop to replace the carpeting, they put an > ozone producing machine in the car overnight and it completely killed > the mold. > > A few years later I had a home in NC with a heat register directly in > front of the kitchen sink, apparently over the years water and whatever > else fell into this register and became very moldy, the odor was > extremely bad. I bought an ozone machine and put it over the register > overnight and it completely killed the odor. > > These machines are expensive but great to have in humid areas of the > south. I've seen them for sale in drug stores, but they may be > available in rental stores for overnight use. > > These machines should be in every home where allergies are a problem. > > Jim > > Mary Lou Borgert wrote: > > on 5/13/03 1:48 AM, Mike Monett at ncrffn...@sneakemail.com wrote: > > > > > >>>http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58884.html > >>>Re: CS>mold headaches garlic > >>>From: Mike Monett > >>>Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:06:41 > >> > >>How does one check the humidity in the house? > > > > Yes, I feel better outside. > > > >>Mary, I'd make a lousy doctor. I forgot two of the most fundamental > >>questions: > >> > >>1. What is the humidity in your house? > >> > >>2. Do your symptoms improve when you leave the house for a while? > >> > >>Best Regards, > >> > >>Mike Monett > >> > >> > >>-- > >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >> > >>Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >> > >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> > >>Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> > >>List maintainer: Mike Devour > >> > > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Re: Please Turn Off The HTML
I don't know how on earth I got in this?I don't bother anyone and usually no one bothers me.Robb - Original Message - From: "Jack Dayton" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:05 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Please Turn Off The HTML > > Dear Hank, > > > > > > You said: > > > > <> > > An owner of property (the silver list in this case) has every right to say > how that property (no sonny, not all "property" needs to have > the grass mowed) shall be used. > If you don't like how Mike does it, then get your own property, and > you can use any verbally challenged expletives you care to. > > > ** I understand that. But why worry about what others say? If the list > > owner finds a sig file inappropriate he will let the person know this. No > > one else's opinion matters. When you defend against it, you give it more > > power than it really has. > > > > Regards, > > Catherine > *** > I recently unsubscribed from the Off Topic list because I was tired of all > of these useless debates, when my only reason for joining the Silver List > was to learn about CS and related, germane matters. > When I decided that Rob's asinine rantings merely wasted my time, I stopped > opening his posts and the replys to those posts. > > Jack > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Silver Generation with ULVDC
To List: A number of very nice people have contacted me privately on making cs with the ULV process. While I am happy to help, and pleased that they are interested, a lot of the information might be useful to others. Later, I will edit and post the emails I have received so far. I have permission from everyone except one person, and will try to contact her for permission to post. If you have a question on making cs, please post it to the list. There are many very knowledgeable people on the list, and we could all benefit. Thanks! Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58942.html > Re: CS>mold headaches garlic > From: Mary Lou Borgert > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:46:15 > How does one check the humidity in the house? You can get a humidity meter from Radio Shack for US$10 or $15. The model I have also measures temperature, and the battery lasts for years. Compare the readings you get inside and outdoors. Can you find places where water collects, or causes damp spots in the walls or ceiling? Is the basement sealed properly? If you look carefully, can you see fungus or mold growing anywhere in the basement? You might find a small gray fungus, the same color as concrete. This makes it very difficult to see, but placing a light near the wall and looking at the reflection helps. This is the stuff that started my headaches. Some of the urls I posted showed mold can grow on wallpaper glue. This is difficult to detect without removing the wallpaper. If you rent and find any mold, don't try to kill it. Call your health department and have them investigate. If they don't do anything, call all the government departments you can find until you locate someone who will do something. Make a big stink and don't take flimsy excuses. Your health may be at stake. Besides, you can't kill it. Even if you saturate the concrete with bleach, it will grow back in a few days. > Yes, I feel better outside. I don't want to play doctor or try to diagnose a problem based on limited information via email. You should find a doctor who is familiar with the health effects of mold and fungus. The ideal is a doctor who has experienced the symptoms himself, but he may be difficult to find. I know it may not be easy to describe, but what symptoms do you experience in the house? Are they similar to those in the urls I posted? Do you own the house, or do you rent? If you rent, it may be difficult to get the landlord to do anything. I believe California has passed real estate laws on mold and fungus, and other states are in the process. But everyone will drag their feet, especially if they know what is happening. Call your health department as described above. Sit on them until they do something. If you own the house and have mold symptoms, you have real problems that can be very expensive to solve. Some people have burned their house down to get rid of the mold. If you are experiencing mold symptoms, you are taking a big gamble with your health. I'd plan to move. This is the only advise I was given by the very few doctors who knew about mold. CS can help fight infections caused when the mold toxins damage your immune system. But cs cannot help with the symptoms. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
I'm spraying my garden! : ) Why use a thousand expensive different harmful chemicals to kill micro-organisms? When CS which is also cheap ,and manufactured in my kitchen, and is also all-purpose and natural can do the same. I'm sold.(^_^) Jay ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:49:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>mold headaches garlic Hi Catherine; magnesium as in epsom salts, or as in ground up metal particles? How and at what concentration and rate did you apply whichever. I live in a high humidity - part of the year - environment and any food not securely wrapped will mold quickly. I've used CS in milk (one glug per half gallon) and on blocks of cheese, with great success; thinking of spraying my whole food environment with it - perhaps even parts of the garden. Sounds silly, but who knows?? Take care, Malcolm At 12:51 PM 5/14/03 -0400, you wrote: >I've killed off mold using water infused with magnesium. > > >Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parisite Elimination?
Thanks. But will it get bad in the gut in 1 day. On the twelfth day I can take an acidophilus supplement. But if you think that maybe I shouldn't risk it I won't. Thanks again. Jay ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:49:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Parisite Elimination? You will likely have to repopulate your gut, or things can get rather bad in the lower abdomen. Marshall "guess...@msn.com" wrote: > Hey what do you guys think about this. After my 10 days of "cleansin" If I > dedicate the eleventh day to drinking nothing but CS. Would this be harmful > or helpful? Thanks. > Jay > > > > > ---Original Message--- > > From: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:45:02 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Parisite Elimination? > > It might do that since you are ingesting not much more than lemon. I think > if > you use the sublingual method by letting it be absorbed under the tongue > into > the blood stream rather than drinking it. Not sure though. > > Glenda > > "guess...@msn.com" wrote: > > > Eh, don't worry about it. If I was to expect everyone around me not to > > bring the food topic up I would be selfish and insane. I knew what I was > > getting into when I took this up. If I cheat I will have to except the > > responsibility and not put the blame on you or anyone else. > > > > No CS. Do you think it would be fine? I wasn't sure if it might make > silver > > citrate so I figured it might be to risky. Thanks for the thought. > > Jay > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re: Please Turn Off The HTML
> Dear Hank, > > > You said: > > <> An owner of property (the silver list in this case) has every right to say how that property (no sonny, not all "property" needs to have the grass mowed) shall be used. If you don't like how Mike does it, then get your own property, and you can use any verbally challenged expletives you care to. > ** I understand that. But why worry about what others say? If the list > owner finds a sig file inappropriate he will let the person know this. No > one else's opinion matters. When you defend against it, you give it more > power than it really has. > > Regards, > Catherine *** I recently unsubscribed from the Off Topic list because I was tired of all of these useless debates, when my only reason for joining the Silver List was to learn about CS and related, germane matters. When I decided that Rob's asinine rantings merely wasted my time, I stopped opening his posts and the replys to those posts. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Please Turn Off The Flames
Hi Marshall; Sorry, but I don't remember - I'll have to review it for my own sake too. Since Frank is hot for particulate CS it may well have been direct elimination, but 'Further, present deponent saith not.' Malcolm At 02:08 PM 5/14/03 -0400, you wrote: Malcolm Stebbins wrote: > I'm not sure what you're claiming here, but if you mean that CS doesn't > reach the lower gut, previous tests have demonstrated that about ten > percent is excreted through the bowel. See Frank Key's site. Does his information indicate whether the CS makes it to the bowel directly, or via the blood stream and liver, or both? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03
Re: CS> Please Turn Off The Flames
Malcolm Stebbins wrote: > I'm not sure what you're claiming here, but if you mean that CS doesn't > reach the lower gut, previous tests have demonstrated that about ten > percent is excreted through the bowel. See Frank Key's site. Does his information indicate whether the CS makes it to the bowel directly, or via the blood stream and liver, or both? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
Hi Catherine; magnesium as in epsom salts, or as in ground up metal particles? How and at what concentration and rate did you apply whichever. I live in a high humidity - part of the year - environment and any food not securely wrapped will mold quickly. I've used CS in milk (one glug per half gallon) and on blocks of cheese, with great success; thinking of spraying my whole food environment with it - perhaps even parts of the garden. Sounds silly, but who knows?? Take care, Malcolm At 12:51 PM 5/14/03 -0400, you wrote: I've killed off mold using water infused with magnesium. Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03
Re: CS>Parisite Elimination?
You will likely have to repopulate your gut, or things can get rather bad in the lower abdomen. Marshall "guess...@msn.com" wrote: > Hey what do you guys think about this. After my 10 days of "cleansin" If I > dedicate the eleventh day to drinking nothing but CS. Would this be harmful > or helpful? Thanks. > Jay > > > > > ---Original Message--- > > From: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:45:02 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Parisite Elimination? > > It might do that since you are ingesting not much more than lemon. I think > if > you use the sublingual method by letting it be absorbed under the tongue > into > the blood stream rather than drinking it. Not sure though. > > Glenda > > "guess...@msn.com" wrote: > > > Eh, don't worry about it. If I was to expect everyone around me not to > > bring the food topic up I would be selfish and insane. I knew what I was > > getting into when I took this up. If I cheat I will have to except the > > responsibility and not put the blame on you or anyone else. > > > > No CS. Do you think it would be fine? I wasn't sure if it might make > silver > > citrate so I figured it might be to risky. Thanks for the thought. > > Jay > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Parisite Elimination?
Hey what do you guys think about this. After my 10 days of "cleansin" If I dedicate the eleventh day to drinking nothing but CS. Would this be harmful or helpful? Thanks. Jay ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:45:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Parisite Elimination? It might do that since you are ingesting not much more than lemon. I think if you use the sublingual method by letting it be absorbed under the tongue into the blood stream rather than drinking it. Not sure though. Glenda "guess...@msn.com" wrote: > Eh, don't worry about it. If I was to expect everyone around me not to > bring the food topic up I would be selfish and insane. I knew what I was > getting into when I took this up. If I cheat I will have to except the > responsibility and not put the blame on you or anyone else. > > No CS. Do you think it would be fine? I wasn't sure if it might make silver > citrate so I figured it might be to risky. Thanks for the thought. > Jay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Please Turn Off The Flames
I'm not sure what you're claiming here, but if you mean that CS doesn't reach the lower gut, previous tests have demonstrated that about ten percent is excreted through the bowel. See Frank Key's site. Also, CS can provoke diarrhea, and diarrhea leads to excessive water loss; in children prolonged diarrhea causes dehydration which is sometimes severe enough to be life threatening and is a more severe threat to their lives than the disease or dysfunction causing it. At 11:57 PM 5/13/03 -0600, you wrote: Yes dear But CS don't get down to there . Hell I don't know how to say it . It can not hurt you I don't care how much you drink it won't hurt you. If I am wrong SUE me, Kill me , I am still right. C Creel writes: Hank said: <> ** Hank, there is no way that CS is selective to unwanted bacteria. As far as CS is concerned, bacteria is bacteria Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03
Re: CS> Please Turn Off The HTML
I love your insight, Sometimes we fail to see the obvious. I get this German brand yogurt that lists 1001 different cultures in it. But it doesn't list quantity of the active probiotic cultures so I will get acidophilus in supplement form to back it up. Then I can't lose. Thanks so much for all your insight on every topic. Jay Catherine says: there is no way that CS is selective to unwanted bacteria. As far as CS is concerned, bacteria is bacteria Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Please Turn Off The HTML
Hey! Don't be a bully, Mike might "Devour" you. At 10:34 PM 5/13/03 -0600, you wrote: jr the more I think about it the more I am getting ready to just come and blow your puter off line, I don't want to but I sure can, If you say anything else about my Sig then see what happens to your on line conection. Just a notice and a notice don't f**k with people you don't know as we can mess you up. Hank jrowl...@nctimes.net writes: who really cares I sure don't... I'm gone goodnight all---Hank Wait; take your taglines with you... jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03
Re: CS> Please Turn Off The HTML
Ah I'm sorry. I didn't know I was doing it. A thought comes to mind, is that why I have had a couple unaswered questions? Maybe I will re-post 'em now that I have figured out how to turn off the HTML format. Jay > Mike Monett wrote: > > (snipped some very good comments) > > > I solved the HTML problem long ago. > I delete, unread, every email message received in HTML format. > I may miss some of the conversation but people who > insist on sending email in HTML format probably don't > have anything to say I'd be interested in reading. > > If that sounds harsh, please remember; > there have been repeated requests to turn off HTML formatting. > Many refuse to honor that simple, reasonable request. > Generally speaking, people who refuse to be reasonable > are not people I'm inclined to correspond with. > > Michael > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
Hi Catherine, What does magnesium have to do with mold? I have never heard of this connection before. Would this also cause a problem if one is magnesium deficient? Glenda C Creel wrote: > I've killed off mold using water infused with magnesium. > > Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
I've killed off mold using water infused with magnesium. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
I had an extremely bad mold situation in my car a few years ago and brought it to a auto body shop to replace the carpeting, they put an ozone producing machine in the car overnight and it completely killed the mold. A few years later I had a home in NC with a heat register directly in front of the kitchen sink, apparently over the years water and whatever else fell into this register and became very moldy, the odor was extremely bad. I bought an ozone machine and put it over the register overnight and it completely killed the odor. These machines are expensive but great to have in humid areas of the south. I've seen them for sale in drug stores, but they may be available in rental stores for overnight use. These machines should be in every home where allergies are a problem. Jim Mary Lou Borgert wrote: on 5/13/03 1:48 AM, Mike Monett at ncrffn...@sneakemail.com wrote: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58884.html Re: CS>mold headaches garlic From: Mike Monett Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:06:41 How does one check the humidity in the house? Yes, I feel better outside. Mary, I'd make a lousy doctor. I forgot two of the most fundamental questions: 1. What is the humidity in your house? 2. Do your symptoms improve when you leave the house for a while? Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
on 5/12/03 10:00 PM, Mike Monett at ncrffn...@sneakemail.com wrote: >> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58867.html >> Re: CS>mold headaches garlic >> From: Mary Lou Borgert >> Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:07:18 > >> Hi Mike, What does mold infection feel like?? I too think this is >> happening to me or else it is too much humidity in the house. In >> any case it is driving me crazy. You say "properly prepared >> garlic" what is that??? > Mike thanks for the information I responded below. >> Mary > > Mary, I've been a bit busy - sorry for the delay in replying. > > I am not a doctor and cannot give medical advise. The symptoms of > mold and fungus sensitivity are vague and hard to pin down. There > could be other health problems that give similar symptoms, so you > need to see a competent medical practitioner. Unfortunately, few > doctors are aware of how serious mold and fungus can be, and they > may misdiagnose. You have to do a lot of research yourself. > > Mold and fungus sensitivity can be very serious. Different people > react differently. Some are incapacitated with the slightest > exposure, others can live in severe infestations with no noticable > harmful effect to their health. > > Most information on the web is outdated and only talks about the > known varieties such as Aspergillus, Penicillium, Stachybotrys, and > Cladosporium. > > In truth, any common household mold or fungus can be dangerous to > someone who has been sensitized. It is an allergic reaction of the > immune system, and can be debilitating or even life-threatening. > > Here are some things to check around the house: > > 1. Does food like your bread get moldy quickly if you leave it on > the counter?Have not tried this but the bread is kept in a drawer and does not go bad for maybe a few weeks > > 2. Is the concrete in your basement sealed properly? do not have a basement > > 3. Are there any leaks when it rains? No > > 4. Are there any hidden plumbing problems that cause dampness in > the walls or ceilings? No, had this checked out in December > > 5. Are there any sources of water or damp areas anywhere in the > house? Only on the alum. windows but the sill has Formica everywhere. The carpenter checked this out when he tore a room up and could find no leaks anywhere but he said it "feels like a sauna" in here. The house is 30 yrs old and well insulated. > > 6. If you have hot air heating, lift the register covers and see > if the ducts are rusted. Electric baseboard > > 7. Do you have carpets or hardwood floors? Carpets hold dampness > and mold loves to live in the fibers. House had carpets, we ripped up and installed wood floors > > 8. When you go shopping, do you smell a musty odor the instant you > step in the house? NO > > Here are some articles that discuss some of the symptoms. (Sorry, > the long urls may wrap in your browser and you have to fix them.) > > "Toxic Mold" > http://www.consumervoiceusa.com/HotTopicsHTML/SubTopicMold/ToixcMold/ToxicMold > .html > > "Effects of Molds" > http://www.consumervoiceusa.com/HotTopicsHTML/SubTopicMold/ToixcMold/MoldEffec > ts.html > > "Effects of Mold Toxins" > http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/oehas/mold.html > > "A Brief Guide to Mold, Moisture, and Your Home" > http://www.epa.gov/iaq/molds/hiddenmold.html > > Here is a good site for more information: > http://www.mold-help.org/ > > > > A mold headache is unlike any you have ever experienced before. It > is like someone has split your skull open with an axe, then poured > acid in the open wound. Meanwhile, they put a band around your head > and screwed it tight. You cannot work or think. > > Garlic is the only thing I have found that helps, besides daily > laundry and eliminating all possible sources of mold spores. > > As usual, there is a great deal of misinformation on the web. Here is > some information on Garlic that may be useful: > > The Chemistry of Garlic > --- > > "Odorless and stable, alliin is the most abundant sulfur compound > in whole, unbruised Garlic. It is stored inside one kind of Garlic > cell; in a separate type of cell, an enzyme called alliinase > awaits. When the cells are broken open, alliin mixes with > alliinase, and in about ten seconds all of the exposed alliin has > been converted into a new group of compounds: allicin and its > close relatives, which give off the aroma of fresh Garlic." > > http://www.herbalchem.net/GarlicIntroductory.htm > > "Garlic Compounds" > > "Specifically, these compounds lower cholesterol by stimulating > the release of bile by the gall bladder (bile contains cholesterol > and related compounds) and by decreasing the production of > cholesterol in the liver. In addition, garlic compounds gently > lower blood pressure by slowing the production of the b
Re: CS>mold headaches garlic
on 5/13/03 1:48 AM, Mike Monett at ncrffn...@sneakemail.com wrote: >> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m58884.html >> Re: CS>mold headaches garlic >> From: Mike Monett >> Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:06:41 > How does one check the humidity in the house? Yes, I feel better outside. > Mary, I'd make a lousy doctor. I forgot two of the most fundamental > questions: > > 1. What is the humidity in your house? > > 2. Do your symptoms improve when you leave the house for a while? > > Best Regards, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re: Please Turn Off The HTML
Dear Hank, You said: <> ** I understand that. But why worry about what others say? If the list owner finds a sig file inappropriate he will let the person know this. No one else's opinion matters. When you defend against it, you give it more power than it really has. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> For Hank
Dear Hank, You said: <> ** I'm trying to understand. Can you tell me more about what "down to there" means? Thanks. <> ** Heck, Hank. I don't think CS is a bad thing and I sure don't want to sue you or kill you. You've been a silver-list 'family' member for a while. In the world of internet, this makes you a friend. I just want to make sure you're okay. I've not seen you be this intense. If you need to blow off some steam, I'd be glad to listen (plenty have listened to me). Best wishes, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Please Turn Off The HTML
looks like a good canidate to be barred from the list - Original Message - From: "C Creel" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Please Turn Off The HTML > < Sorry > again I should know you can't read good thinks, or play good music. That is > all I have in my sig lines, If you don't like it then don't click on any of > them F**k you. Me to you. kiss off. >> > > > Geez...this is the roughest anyone's played in a while. > > What's up, Hank? > > Catherine > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS> Please Turn Off The HTML
On Tue, 13 May 2003 22:51:06 -0700, Michael Mahoney wrote: >I solved the HTML problem long ago. >I delete, unread, every email message received in HTML format. That's what I do also. Chuck The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
