CShow to change email addys......
i am going to give up juno and need to change my addy. thanks, wolfie mel 29 palms, ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShow to change email addys......
Hi, What I did was go to http://www.silverlist.org/ then clicked Subscribe, put in my new address then clicked the Unsubscribe with the old address. Subscription Instructions To Subscribe To Unsubscribe Sincerely Yours, Hank http://www.babelmagazine.com/ http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html - Original Message - From: ironte...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 1:19 AM Subject: CShow to change email addys.. i am going to give up juno and need to change my addy. thanks, wolfie mel 29 palms, ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen?
If 2 liters @10 ppm isn't doing the job, instead of spending money on a different device why don't you just drink more? The net result is the same...more silver into your system. Regards, George On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:39:46 +0100, Smith, Michael wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely try the Gatoraid. I have a very annoying bacterial infection which my CS is just not touching. I've been drinking 2 litres a day of 10-12ppm for over two weeks and I feel that the CS is holding it at bay but is far from curing it. I'm thinking that either the strength of the CS in ppm is not adequate (and I've just ordered a well known generator that makes 24ppm perfectly clear CS to address this) or the CS is not getting to where it's needed hence the need for some sort circulatory enhancer. I was also thinking of cayenne pepper. Has anyone ever tried this? Thanks Mike S -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? Hi Michael, Being a U of F Florida Gator, I really appreciate Jack's suggestion of Gatoraid. I would also suggest that you try a smaller quantity of H2O2 3%; such as, 1 or 2 drops to a quart CS (I use 4 cc H2O2 3% per quart). For a long time, I added nothing to my CS (which I made with only Pure Silver, Pure Steam Distilled Water and low voltage and all users found that very effective). Then I read Jason's statement that the H2O2 really compounds the germ-killing power of CS, so I added H2O2 and the taste did indeed change, but not too much. If that's too distasteful for you, then Go Gators! and use their Gatoraid, and they and I will thank you! Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? Smith, Michael 10/16/03 8:18 AM Wrote: I've been reading a lot about how H202 added to CS enhances the effectiveness of the CS. Could the same be true for a stabilised oygen product? ie. I would normally dilute some drops of stabilised liquid oxygen in water if I put this into CS would it also enhace the effectiveness of CS or be detrimental in some way? The reason I ask is because I just can't stand the taste of H202! Any responses would be appreciated. *** Hi Mike, before you try something so exotic to enhance the effectiveness of CS, you might want to try Gatoraid - check out the archives for the discussions. Jack Be Nice -- Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. =
Re: CSOpen Letter To Robert ( Mike)
When ya draw a conclusion, ya wind up with a drawing. The conclusion escapes uncaptured while the drawing is being admired. By definition, a conclusion is an end. Usually an end to further consideration and thought. I think it's better to include than conclude. Of course, that entails some head scratching. It feels good to scratch my head. Any excuse will do. :-) Ode At 12:02 PM 10/17/2003 -0700, you wrote: Yes!! Eggzackly!! Almost Precisely!! Right On, Ode; TNX. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSconstant current and concentrated CS
Reid There's probably no danger of vaporizing the silver. The boiling point of silver is 2210 deg Centigrade. I think that's higher than the firing temperature of pottery. You would know better than I about that. Cinder block is pretty porous, however, you're right..not much flow. Porousity is probably linked to strength where the concrete that's porous enough won't be strong enough. The cement part is what gives the strength of the bond to the aggregates and takes up the spaces that water would seep through. It might be possible to smear the inside of a pottery container with a thin and very weak concrete mix. [Morter really, as gravel would get in the way.] Essentially, a stabilized sand filter. [mix charcoal dust in too?] If that's too weak, then two pots...one inside the other with a layer of very very weak morter in between...or maybe just charcoal dust mixed wet with CS? It may set up a little like a briquette. More difficult to make but maybe more porous...a concrete foam, aka, lightweight concrete made with an airflow as used to level floor systems. Nowadays, they make something called Hable block. It's a foam concrete block that's so light that it floats till it soaks up enough water to sink. It can be cut with a hand saw. But it takes a day or two to sink a big block. Ode At 02:55 AM 10/18/2003 +0530, you wrote: Friends, To let you know, several years ago I did try making water filters out of concrete. I used a very dry mix, like that of a concrete block, and even less water, in hopes there would be some interconnectedness of the pores/ voids/ fissures. However I just wasn't getting the flow. I'm guessing there's something about the concrete bond that prevents the flow. It is apparent, at the very least that it's not possible to fine tune the flow rate (average), as is the case with pottery. For the pottery, using about half, pre-fired particles, and half unfired, normal clay, there's a pulling away of particles during drying and firing, that's caused by shrinkage of the normal clay. That brings about an ideal, and adjustable, permeable medium that's very responsive to alteration of flow rate, per composition. So givine the idiosyncracies of pottery clays, almost any of these can be rendered into a purifier. Maybe some more clever person than I am can make concrete work, but I just don't see it. As to the two liter flask, in the double boiler, my new plan of action is that next time I'll simply leave the starter out, using the bigger electrodes. The reaction rate may be slowish but with time I may still get viable concentrations. But I'm also proceeding to a back up methodology. Now we're saturating candles with AgNO3. I cannot think of another silver compound that's so easy to make, with such implicit likelihood of small partiucle size. We're mixing this in with the clay materials, then forming purifiers, drying and firng. Firing will lose the nitrate and should leave the metal, with a bond to the pottery. Even using lab made, reagent grade should prove very inexpensive. Making ones own, under proper conditions of course, should make silver nitrate far less expensive, giving a purifier that's still within the reach of the poor. Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNew State Of Matter?
The conventional theory of metals is in crisis, said Philip Phillips, a professor of physics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The observation of a metallic phase for bosons directly contradicts conventional wisdom. A satisfactory explanation requires a new state of matter. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/031010075634.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilverpuppy
Way cool! The other email address that downloads with the list is coyote...@earthlink.net If you paste that into the To: slot, it will go to me and not the list. Ode At 07:25 PM 10/17/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hi Ode and list, Since I mentioned on-list that I had ordered a silverpuppy and was having trouble contacting Ode about my order, (not his fault as my e-mail account was bouncing incoming mail!) I thought it only right to say on-list that my Silverpuppy arrived today, in record time too, and that everything about the order looks perfect. I bought some dw tonight and will get brewing sometime this weekend. Thanks Ode! Elle _ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: DMSO in Canada
It's a HUCOB question. [help us cover our butts] Pick a horse, any horse. Ode At 08:57 PM 10/17/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hi Grant, You pose a good question about what breed of horse would be a reasonable answer. I'm thinking of putting quarter horse there's also Appaloosa...a horse developed in northwest North America, characteristically having a spotted rump. A couple of heavy set draft horses would be the Clydesdale and Percheron. And Hackney comes to mind only because years ago a friend of mine wanted one... developed in England they're very pretty and lift their knees quite high. Good trotters I think. Hope this helps. From: Grant nes...@shaw.ca As an afterthought I think maybe they would ship to Canada. If you go through the motions on their site as if you were ordering, I don't see anywhere that they are asking for a prescription, their drop down shipping list has all the Canadian provinces on it. They do ask what breed of horse you own, anyone know what a reasonable answer to that might be?? Grant.. _ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOpen Letter To Robert ( Mike)
- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote When ya draw a conclusion, ya wind up with a drawing. The conclusion escapes uncaptured while the drawing is being admired. By definition, a conclusion is an end. Usually an end to further consideration and thought. I think it's better to include than conclude. Of course, that entails some head scratching. It feels good to scratch my head. Any excuse will do. :-) Ode I scratch my head so often that I sometimes dig holes in it - disgusting - when this happens I pour my CS over it and it works every time, though I still have no idea whether it is the particles or the ions that are doing the job. Arnold Beland www.atlasnova.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 10/6/2003 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Thanks for the kefir info!
LOL, I know, I'm on it now! It's been a wealth of help and I look forward to making cheeses with it! Jessica By the rude bridge that arched the flood, Their flag to April's breeze unfurled, Here once the embattled farmers stood, And fired the shot heard round the world. --Emerson - Original Message - From: fig...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Thanks for the kefir info! There is a high volume Yahoo group that is mostly about Kefir and it's culture. They discuss other fermented foods to limited extent d ___ - Original Message - From: wayne tighe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:24 AM Subject: CSRe: Thanks for the kefir info! I would like to thank the person (Debby?) who talked about the probiotic substance called kefir. As I am a low carber (BTW, Mike, thank you for your info with your wife's gestational diabetes, both my son and I came out fine, he was 6lbs 12oz), I was a little worried about the carb levels. I have some kefir grains, and I'm oh so pleased with the fermented milk and will soon be going to raw goat's milk (with kefir of course) as there is a grade A raw goat's milk dairy about 44 miles from where I'm at. I'm so pleased not to have to deal with the acidophilus pills nor yoghurt anymore to put the good stuff back in my digestive tract after taking cs. Now I have the best of two worlds and I'm deeply grateful. Jessica By the rude bridge that arched the flood, Their flag to April's breeze unfurled, Here once the embattled farmers stood, And fired the shot heard round the world. --Emerson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSuS/cm PPM for CS answers???
Hi ya'all, I hope that I can shed some light on the problem between Mike's work and mine. Mike is working in the low voltage (v6) and at low current, so that little or no oxygen is liberated at the anode and hence it stays clean and the work function for silver remains at 3.09. While I am working in the 27 to 36 volt range and the anode blackens very quickly and its work function approaches 4.31. I very seldom clean the anode but always wipe the cathode. In addition I always use mechanical stirring. A review of electrolysis where they use cylindrical anode and concentric cylindrical cathode with constant stirring to measure the plate out of a metal ion from a solution, (in the book Instrumental Methods of Analysis by Willard, Merrirr, and Dean, I find the statement that the mass transfer coefficient is dependent on the rate of stirring, cell and electrode geometries, diffusion coefficient of the electroactive species, and the like. While this is not electroplating (CS process) the admonishments should not be ignored. It would tend to indicate that for several people to get the same results then identical setups may well be required. In trying to nail down the conductivity question, yesterday I made a new conductivity cell based on 1 x 1 x 1 which would give results in uS/inch instead of uS/cm. When first immersed in the tank of CS the conductance reading for clean silver electrodes was 86 uS/inch. After about 2 hours the reading had slowly change as the electrodes blackened and stabilized at 92 uS/inch. My standard 1 cm x 1 cm x 1 cm probe gave a reading of 36 uS/cm. One would expect the reading to closely follow the ratio of cm to inch and it does ! The ration is 92/36 = 2.55 rather than 2.54. This can well be due to assembly or parts fabrication errors. The only thing left for me to do is find a laboratory that has a good conductivity to cross check my results. I will find the answer !! Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDMSO in Canada
Grant wrote, As an afterthought I think maybe they would ship to Canada. If you go through the motions on their site as if you were ordering, I don't see anywhere that they are asking for a prescription, their drop down shipping list has all the Canadian provinces on it. They do ship to Canada, it's a Canadian company. The shipping quotes I gave are the ones they gave me for shipping to Nova Scotia. You don't need a prescription it's a commonly used horse product. I can't seem to find it in any feed stores around here. Found some at a tack shop but it was labeled for paint solvent use and there was no percentage on it. I didn't try to get it from my regular horse vet as it is a big hassle to get any kind of drug from him without a good reason and a complete exam of the horse. I thought I could get it through my boss (small animal vet) as I can buy things at cost, but from the company we order from it would be $40/16 oz at cost! That's crazy. That's why I did a search and found Peak Equine and thought the prices were very reasonable. They do ask what breed of horse you own, anyone know what a reasonable answer to that might be?? I think it's just a survey type of thing, they want to know what breeds most of their customers own so they know who they are serving. No big deal, they don't have to know you don't own a horse and what you want the product for. (Eeny meeny miney moe) Quarter Horse, Appaloosa, Thoroughbred are probably the most common, but any one on the list would do. Good luck, Lisa ~~~ Lisa D. MacDonald Veterinary Assistant C.E.F. certified Level 1 Western Coach Nova Scotia, Canada ~~~ lisa_d_macdon...@hotmail.com www.geocities.com/lisa_d_macdonald _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUrl for lab test of Colloidmaster
Would someone please again post the Url for the Colloidmaster 777 lab test made by SynerGenesis, Inc.? Numerous google searchs got me nowhere. Thanks. Stuff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDisregard request for Colloidmaster Url [no text]
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RE: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment
Hello A.F., Which of Bearden's experiments are you going to do? Thanks in advance, JOH -Original Message- From: colloidal.sil...@cox.net [mailto:colloidal.sil...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: carpae.d...@cox.net Subject: Re: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment Hi Mike :) Please go look up Dr. Thomas Bearden on the web. There may well be some factors your overlooking with classic entropy-based theory. In two days Iwill have duplicated this experiment pretty closely... I'll post the results. Regards, A.F. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 31dtzj...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63365.html CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment From: Peter Rebaudo Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:59:26 Hi: Get a hold of this tale ! The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 300cc, the other is outside the glass container. DW measures 1.0 u Siemens Voltage= 34V Supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA. After 2 days, 2.4uS After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever seen. The final product have zero taste. The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever. There was no sediments. The container was glass 2 in diameter by 7.5 high Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5 summerged. The voltage stay constant at 34V, there was no measurable current. I am looking forward to comments. Regards Peter R Hi Peter, You have requested comments, but have not responded to any. You are technically literate. You have posted accurate data on led's. You have downloaded Mercury - you posted a link to Roger's web page where people could download Eureka, the predecessor of Mercury. Roger wrote both programs. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61728.html A quick check in Mercury shows the current required to liberate 14 ppm of silver in 300 ml of dw in 5 days is 14.77 uA. Here's the data: days = 5 hrs = 24 * days ml = 300 ; volume of dw mnt = 0 ; minutes ppm = 14 Here's the result: Cou = 6.381685 I = 1.477241E-05 sec = 432000.0 gm = 0.004200 k = 0.000658 lt = 0.30 ml = 300. mg = 4.20 phr = 0.11 ppm = 14.0 hrs = 120. Most dvms can easily measure 14 uA. You state the current was zero, as expected. You know how to measure currents this low. So there was no electrolysis. Even leakage currents would not suffice to explain your data. Glass is a very good insulator, and would not support a current of 14 uA. You know the conductivity of air is zero for all practical purposes. You also know placing the cathode outside the glass means no current can flow, and there can be no electrolysis. With no electrolysis, there can be no liberation of silver at the anode. Silver is insoluble in water. If you doubt this, please see a paper on Frank's web site that discusses the solubility of silver in distilled water. The statement is the first sentence in the second paragraph: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Solubility_Products.PDF Yet your measurement implies the equivalent of 4.2 milligrams of silver was released. This cannot be true. Silver is insoluble. If it were contamination, it would be released at the start of the experiment. The conductivity would increase rapidly, then remain constant. It would not show a steady increase over 5 days. So it's not contamination. You have not done a salt test to see if silver ions are present. You know it will prove there are none. So this is a hoax, right? Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com attachment: winmail.dat
RE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen?
Hi Mike, What is the site of the infection? JOH -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:40 AM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely try the Gatoraid. I have a very annoying bacterial infection which my CS is just not touching. I've been drinking 2 litres a day of 10-12ppm for over two weeks and I feel that the CS is holding it at bay but is far from curing it. I'm thinking that either the strength of the CS in ppm is not adequate (and I've just ordered a well known generator that makes 24ppm perfectly clear CS to address this) or the CS is not getting to where it's needed hence the need for some sort circulatory enhancer. I was also thinking of cayenne pepper. Has anyone ever tried this? Thanks Mike S -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? Hi Michael, Being a U of F Florida Gator, I really appreciate Jack's suggestion of Gatoraid. I would also suggest that you try a smaller quantity of H2O2 3%; such as, 1 or 2 drops to a quart CS (I use 4 cc H2O2 3% per quart). For a long time, I added nothing to my CS (which I made with only Pure Silver, Pure Steam Distilled Water and low voltage and all users found that very effective). Then I read Jason's statement that the H2O2 really compounds the germ-killing power of CS, so I added H2O2 and the taste did indeed change, but not too much. If that's too distasteful for you, then Go Gators! and use their Gatoraid, and they and I will thank you! Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? Smith, Michael 10/16/03 8:18 AM Wrote: I've been reading a lot about how H202 added to CS enhances the effectiveness of the CS. Could the same be true for a stabilised oygen product? ie. I would normally dilute some drops of stabilised liquid oxygen in water if I put this into CS would it also enhace the effectiveness of CS or be detrimental in some way? The reason I ask is because I just can't stand the taste of H202! Any responses would be appreciated. *** Hi Mike, before you try something so exotic to enhance the effectiveness of CS, you might want to try Gatoraid - check out the archives for the discussions. Jack Be Nice -- Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = attachment: winmail.dat
CSJuvenon
Anyone had any experience with a product called Juvenon? If so, I would be interested in your opinion of it - reply offline if you wish. I read about it in the latest Reader's Digest, and one can visit their website www.juvenon.com to learn more. Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDMSO in Canada
I had no success whatsoever getting it from a vet. I called every vet in the lower mainland of BC and they all said they didn't have any. I came across someone who told me how to get it by prescription from a doctor but that is VERY expensive and no guarantee they would give it to you Anyone you talk to would tell you it is not for human consumption. The only place I was successful in finding it and having it mailed to me was from a feed and seed store nearby. ---Original Message--- I live in Canada and the only way you can get DMSO is under the table.Registered Breeders,ie horse,etc. can get it on 'script from their Vets.The only medical human use for which it is authorized in Canada is, IC, Interstitial Cystitus,then only by Drs. 'script. Harold -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizing
Jack, and All, This little machine (mentioned in the post below) is evidently dependant on the capillary action of a little filter element; that measures 0.200 (5 mm) diameter, by 3.125 in length (80 mm), and is a very rigid, white, fibrous material (I don't know the material). Initially, having heard some time ago that it would be best to remove the filters, I attempted to operate the unit without installing this element, however, it would not produce vapor without it. My brother (chemical background), appears to have been right. When I bought the unit, I asked him if the silver would be eliminated by the filter, having described it to him in a telephone conversation. He said that the ions and particles were too small to be affected by the filter. . . . I still had my doubts. Due to the concern Jack mentioned below, and my own doubts fostered by the remove all filters admonition, I decided to check it out. I filled the ultrasonic humidifier with 4 oz. of CS that measured 11 PPM on a Hanna PWT (Pure Water Tester), and placed it in a plastic bag with a 1 inch diameter vapor-stream hole cut in it, and put it in the bottom of a clean 2.2 gallon cookie jar (that is part of a 9,000 volt AC ionic silver solution generator made by Utopia), and placed the lid on it. I turned the humidifier on, and noted that, after a minute, or so, a bit of vapor began escaping the jar. Had it been hot vapor, condensation would have been more complete, I suppose. After processing 4 hours (1 oz/hr of cool vapor). I powered it down, and removed the unit from the jar and tipped the jar about 20 degrees, gather the liquid in a smaller area, as there was not much liquid remaining. I let it settle for another hour. The amount of liquid remaining was about 1.6 oz. The PPM of this remaining fluid measured 18.1 on the PWT. It had a very slight plastic taste, perhaps due to the filter, which may be made of plastic. Evidently, the vapor that had escaped, together with what was still on the inside wall and lid of the jar, had abandoned a majority of its ionic silver content, since the PPM increased more than 60 percent. The good news is that the silver did leave the vaporizer :) I just hope that I did everything properly, and arrived at the truth of the matter. I would appreciate any constructive criticism that you can think of :) Jack, I am very glad that you raised this concern. My apologies to all, for having recommended this unit while having , my own doubts about its performance in the application of vaporizing CS (though it did appear to have delivered CS that eliminated my continual hacking cough). In the future, I will do my best to prove out my stuff in advance of any recommendation on my part. Thanks again!!! Best regards :) Marv - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: CSNebulizing Marv Hacker 10/13/03 7:49 AM Wrote: For those who are looking to buy an Ultrasonic Nebulizer, Walgreen's carries a Walgreen brand $20, wall wart powered, Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier. It starts/stops instantly, holds about 4oz of liquid, and produces a stream of cool vapor that is about a half inch in diameter, and is a bit smaller than a Mason jar. ** Hi Marv, I don't think that Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier will tramsport CS in the mist that it produces. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUrgent Action Alert! Dietary Supplements Targeted Again
I'm forwarding this email because I believe that it covers a subject very important to our lifestyle and even threatens our health. Time is of the essence with this bill folksplease act now! Jannette - Original Message - From: NutriCology spec...@nutricology.com To: Valued Customer valu...@allergyresearchgroup.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Urgent Action Alert! Dietary Supplements Targeted Again Dear Reader, I am writing to alert you to a dangerous bill that is before the Senate, and to ask your support in taking action. Senate Bill 722, the so-called Dietary Supplement Safety Act of 2003, threatens to remove safe dietary supplements from the market, provide unnecessary additional regulatory authority to the FDA, and force supplements to a higher level of scrutiny than many over-the-counter medications and food additives. This legislation could result in higher health care costs and less personal control over your health care choices. Since the passage of the landmark Dietary Supplement and Education Act (DSHEA) in 1994, the FDA has failed to implement many of its key provisions. Now, they want a bill that stipulates that if any adverse effect occurs in a person taking a dietary supplement, without regard to whether the event is known to be causally related to the dietary supplement, the FDA can pull that supplement off the market. I believe it's precisely because dietary supplements are so safe, that the FDA is asking for these unreasonable powers. There are no real reasons to control the sale of most supplements. The FDA has broad authority to remove dangerous products, including dietary supplements, from the market if they pose a hazard to public health. DSHEA did not hamper that power. However, S. 722 would give the FDA authority to pull products off the market based on hearsay. You can read the full text of this proposed law at http://thomas.loc.gov/, by typing in S. 722. Please contact your Congresspersons and tell them to OPPOSE Senate Bill 722. Do not let it pass, and do not let it slip through as a rider on some other bill. To contact your Congresspersons, go to http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/, and enter your zip code. You can get email, phone and mail information for your Senators and your Representative there. Thank you for your time and attention to this crucial health care and personal choice issue. Below is a sample letter. Call, or send a letter to your Senators. Keep Congress from taking away your choices for health improvement. Sincerely, Stephen Levine, Ph.D. NutriCology, Inc. P.S. Please come to Washington, DC, on October 21, 2003, for a Rally on Capitol Hill! For more information or to register, see http://www.nnfa.org/services/government/RallyontheHill.htm. -- Dear Senator (insert your Senator's name); I respectfully urge you to do all in your power to kill S. 722, the Dietary Supplement Safety Act of 2003, introduced March 26th, 2003 by Senator Richard J. Durbin (D-IL). The bill's intent is to overturn the main provisions of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA). S. 722 would give the FDA the potential power to remove thousands of herbs and other dietary supplements from the marketplace, as it has tried to do many times already. S. 722 would give the FDA complete discretion to make such a determination, without just cause or conforming to scientific standards. That is wrong. It was the will of the people and of Congress, as stated in DSHEA, that the availability of safe, dietary supplements in America does not need to be, and shall not be, restricted. If you are concerned with the safety of your constituents, as I believe you are, you should know that supplements are relatively safe, especially compared to drugs. There are 120,000 deaths a year from prescription drugs versus less than one per year from dietary supplements, based on official records from the Centers for Disease Control Prevention and the American Association of Poison Control Centers. DSHEA already provides the FDA with ample authority to remove any dangerous product at any time. S. 722 is simply a power grab that undermines DSHEA and the rights of your constituents. I think S. 722 and its congressional backers will be very unpopular with the American people. More citizen letters were sent to Congress in 1992-1994 in support of DSHEA than over any other issue in American history. DSHEA was enacted after years of debate in Congress. During the process, it became very clear that there was overwhelming public support for ensuring free access to dietary supplements. If you have a hand in overturning the freedoms that DSHEA provides, voters will strongly disapprove. Please oppose S. 722. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on this subject. Sincerely, Name__ Address
