Re: CS>teeth-need help-cs
Hi, Perhaps your dentist could provide you with a sample of the material, some scrap, then soak it in CS repeatedly for a few weeks/months until you are satisfied with the results. Yours may be a "high classed worry", but testing this way *may* prove it (not sure if the presence of saliva+CS would make a difference). Best regards, :) Marv - Original Message - From: "a rose..." To: Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 10:53 PM Subject: Re: CS>teeth-need help-cs Hi all, Typing from my new location, the silver list on my own mail prog with a real mail server...it is wonderful, so much faster and I can stroll at my leisure, not in a hurry to avoid the "you are over your limit...hotmail staff" that was a bane of my existence... Two things, I have corresponded with Butch, who runs Anatolian Treasures. He is a wonderfully funny man with a down to earth sense of humor and extremely picky about the crops he buys for distillation. He lives in Turkey btw...he won't sell his oils to Young Living because it is a scam...and says any place that offers the same oils year after year is not selling quality oils because sometimes the flowers and or plants are peak, and sometimes they are not. He also publishes the g something reading...where it is tested for potency. My question, long standing, but never ask is, I have acrylic fillings and know that silver can turn plastic gray...has anyone used cs and had a reaction to it filling wise? This warning came to me when I was buying oz silver, so this may be a mute question with homemade. I have just been leery to hold silver in my mouth and one day notice I have lovely gray teeth. thanks in advance, a rose... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Argyria Antidote ???
Argyria Overloading the body's natural eliminative systems with silver causes the body to store some excess silver in the face, which over time can result in a pronounced gray complexion. Argyria is strictly a nontoxic, cosmetic condition. However, argyria is quite serious in that it is thought to be permanent, much like a tattoo. A number of factors may put some individuals at much higher risk than others for developing argyria. 1. Environmental Protection Agency documents suggest that people with low vitamin E and selenium levels are more susceptible to argyria. You may want to contact a licensed health care professional to correctly assess your health risk for contracting argyria. 2. Individuals with slower metabolisms are at higher risk for argyria because their natural eliminative systems are working more slowly and can be more easily overwhelmed. Some drugs and medications, such as the antibiotic doxycycline, can also induce s lower metabolic rates. Available information indicates that low vitamin E and selenium levels may increase the risk of argyria by as much as a factor of 5. Therefore, I assume that low vitamin E and selenium levels in conjunction with doxycycline may increase the risk of argyria even more dramatically. If the following ceilings are exceeded, or continued for more than 30 days, I believe some researchers with low vitamin E and selenium levels could be at risk of contracting argyria. I estimate that no more than 16 ounces of colloidal silver, or silver chloride, at a concentration of 5 ppm should be ingested within 24 hours, or 64 ounces within 10 days. In addition, the ingestion of colloidal silver and/or silver chloride should be stopped for at least 5 days following any period of heavy consumption to lower the risk of argyria. Selenium binds with heavy metals, including silver. As the body eliminates these metals, it eliminates selenium along with them. It's logical to assume that anyone who is ingesting colloidal silver or silver chloride on an ongoing basis is slowly but surely eliminating selenium. While many believe it is impossible to contract argyria by ingesting colloidal silver, the facts indicate this may not be an absolute truth. Imagine that a man drinks one gallon of 10 ppm colloidal silver every day for a year. Some of that silver will bind with selenium. At first, it may appear that everything is going fine, but once selenium levels have dropped low enough, perhaps in three or four months, a small percentage of silver will be sent to the face for storage. As mo re selenium is depleted, a larger percentage of silver will be routed to the face. (In the most extreme case noted in one EPA study, eighteen percent of all silver ingested by an argyric individual was routed to the face.) The end result is that within a year the condition of argyria could be quite pronounced as a result of ingesting large amounts of colloidal silver. Argyria is normally a gradually incurred condition. It might appear to have a sudden onset if circumstances are just right. For example, an individual stays indoors for a month or two while ingesting large amounts of silver, some of which is deposited in the face. It might not be particularly noticeable until the silver becomes darker as a result of being oxidized by strong sunlight. The unsuspecting person goes to the beach one sunny afternoon and within a matter of hours develops a case of instant ar gyria. The oxidation of silver in the epidermal layers of the skin is part of the argyric process. It may be that argyria is normally associated with the face for the simple reason that the face receives more exposure to sunlight than any other part of th e body. Ask a Good Question In any field of endeavor, it's important to ask the right questions. Sometimes good questions produce even better answers. I once asked myself this question: What is the one thing that could happen regarding colloidal silver that would change everything if it happened? While I think it is critical that all people learn how to make silver colloids, I still worry about the remote possibility of negative experiences. For example; when silver medicines were commonly used, the occurrence of argyria was also more common. If the general public of today begins making unlimited amounts of colloidal silver, there may be some people who get themselves into trouble, either by ingesting fantastic amounts, or simply by being deficient in selenium and vitamin E. Argyria is permanent and irreversible. That's what all the medical books say. At the moment, argyria is still a rare and archaic condition. So, when was the last time any doctor took a serious look at curing argyria? Sixty years, seventy years or more? In looking over EPA data on argyria, I began to think about the powerful properties of vitamin E relative to the human face. Vitamin E removes lipofuscin deposits, commonly known as liver spots. I learned
Re: CS>Argyria Antidote ???
I copied these some time ago. wish I had kept the links also.. Hiya Ken: You said: ..and extremely high doses and prolonged use of silver chloride 'could' result in a case of agryria. [Not likely but possible] I'm almost willing to believe at this point that high doses and prolonged use of silver chloride actually IS likely to cause Argyria, based on the last two cases I've reviewed! However, argyria is now reverseable: http://www.silvermedicine.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13 The formula used to reverse argyria, as referenced in the above link: 3 Vitamin E 1000 mg 100% Natural d-alpha Tocopheryl 1 Selenium 100mcg yeast free 2 vegetarian Vitamin C 1000 mg 1 teaspoon MSM organic 1 super potency Vitamin B 100, 1 teaspoon of Kelp powder: Taken every morning with 2 16oz glasses of water, with close to 3/4 of a gallon drinking water a day. Reversal Time: 6 months Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Matthew McCann PE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: CS>Argyria Antidote ??? Hi, Members of the List! A search of the archives revealed that NAC, N-Acetylcysteine, an antioxidant and a variant of the amino acid L-Cysteine, has been mentioned on occasion in the context of alleviating the side-effects of chemotherapy, the toxic effects of overdoses of APAP (N-Acetyl-p-Aminophenol) and perhaps some other conditions. In the Journal of Clinical Pharmocology, 13, 332-336, "Clinical Application For Heavy-Metal Complexing Potential Of N-Acetyl Cysteine," the author Lorber et al reported that their in-vitro studies demonstrated that NAC effectively complexes gold, silver and mercury. Does anybody know whether in-vivo studies exist that indicate whether or not NAC might possibly arrest argyria ??? Thanks in advance for your comments. Matthew
Re: CS>Help for broken wrist
As I peck left handed at my computer due to a broken wrist I seem to recall someone has posted about supplements to help with this type of healing. Any suggestions? Teri See www.EM-Probe.com for a PEMF pulsed magnet for about $200. In Europe they are called bone stimulators and work great to heal faster fractures. They also work for horses and dogs, the day I picked my probe up DR Gordon sold 500 units to a veterinarian. My unit even says for your pet on it. I have a cold medical laser which I have used on myself, cats etc. since the early 80's. Still works but it is not portable like the EM- Probe and I leave the probe on 24/7. Vets. also used the cold medical laser. My asthma and sinus infection seems to be improving using the Wallgrens ultrasonic vaporizer with CS,DMSO and MSM 5 minutes four times per day. Also I left Yuma and moved closer to the ocean. Cholesterol dropped from 267 to 200 with 11 Chelations and back to 3 tablespoons of flax seeds per day. I was only using 1 tablespoon flax per day. I also stopped the Atkins diet and most of my lost weight returned. Brickey
Re: CS>teeth-need help-cs
In a message dated 2/29/04 11:57:00 PM EST, rain...@valuelinx.net writes: << I have acrylic fillings and know that silver can turn plastic gray...has anyone used cs and had a reaction to it filling wise? >> I have an acrylic filling in one of my front teeth. I use CS on a daily basis as a mouthwash, and also take it orally for colds, flu, etc. -- and hold the CS in my mouth for a bit before swallowing. My acrylic filling is still the same lovely shade of white that it was when it was put in. Also, I was supposedly a candidate for *root planing* sometime back because I had gum disease. A little more attention to flossing and using CS as a mouthwash has reversed all of that. My dentist tells me (a little nervously, I might add) -- "boy, you sure turned THAT situation around!! :-)MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>teeth-need help-cs
Thanks for your first hand experience. I doubt I could go back the the dentist that did the original work as he screwed up so many things it has been a task to right what was wronged. I know that the warning I got with silver and plastic was with the oz rep, and at that time oz silver was 150 ppm...now I know not to use oz silver...although it does work...preferring my own homemade brew. I have mild gum receding which comes with age and health related issues...and have wanted to hold the silver in my mouth for several minutes a couple of times a day...so collecting hands on experience. I don't expect anyone to be able to give me a definitive, just poking around. Of course, what good would my teeth be gray or not if they came out lol...and you give me confidence to try. I have used oregano oil and find it very effective for bacterial maintenance, but the healing properties of silver, ie using on burn areas to speed healing, not to mention can speed bone mending...well, the prospects are far reaching for speeding healing. Thanks for replying a rose... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Argyria Antidote ???
Hi, Charles, and Jason! Thank you very much for your excellent, thoughtful and thought-provoking remarks. It is a great service to everyone. Matthew
CS>Re: Europe Getting Closer to Severe Supplement Restrictions
Excuse me who says so ?Have you not seen the new proposed need for prescriptions for natural alternative products - so we had all better keep our ears, noses etc., to the ground and stop what may be coming down the pike !!! Sandee The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Europe Getting Closer to Severe Supplement Restrictions
Check out the original text ; http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/food/labellingnutrition/vitamins/df_ff_reg1_en.pdf
Re: CS>Europe Getting Closer to Severe Supplement Restrictions
Opinion On Toxicological Data on Colouring Agents for Medicinal Products: E 174 Silver ; http://europa.eu.int/comm/health/ph_risk/committees/scmp/documents/out30_en.pdf
RE: CS>Chelation Therapy
Hi Julius, There is an M.D. in Ovieda, FL by the name of Dr. Roy Kupsinel, who I'll bet would order a Rx for your injectable solutions if explained to him. He is quite into Alternative medicines and a really nice Dr. Sincerely, Richard harris, 56 yr Fl Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Julius Kabrun [mailto:ju...@worldonline.co.za] Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 8:24 AM To: r...@yahoogroups.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com; Shirley Cirlin Subject: CS>Chelation Therapy Hi llmor, This therapy has interested me for 5years & I have had 28 treatments over time. I tried to get a firm to make me pyrogen free CaNa2EDTA/ EDTA IV solutions but they would not do it without a doctor's prescription & the nurse would not inject it without written permission so though I have both EDTA's I am unable to get these things done because most conventional allopathic doctors don't believe the therapy works for anything except heavy metal poisoning, which I have , & the others want to charge you high fees to do the therapy so they don't give you a prescription either. Presently I go to a doctor who has invented a solution that induces the body to grow new blood vessels around any area that has strongly diminished or no circulation.At last count he has saved 440 patients with gangrene from losing legs. I didn't wait till I got gangrene but when the Diabetic Foot Clinic (now closed) told of that danger because of the lack of circulation below the ankle I started out trying to do chelation therapy , ran into problems, & had to go to doctors for therapy which cost the arm & a leg I was trying to save. Eventually I decided to buy my own equipment to filter for pyrogen-free sterile solutions & thus was led by the Master of the World to the right doctor who has induced new blood vessels.I was grey ,pasty faced & looked as bad as I felt; now I belie the way I feel. I look pink cheeked & I am a bit more energetic- but I look well! This therapy is not registered yet & may never be because among other things he has no scientific proof of how & why it works. It is not enough that no diabetic, gangrene-ridden & in fear of losing his limbs within hours has ever lost a limb- you can't explain so you can't treat . Sorry to be so verbose but I see that you in the States are also in danger of losing certain rights to the pharmaceutical companies. They want us paying until we run out of money then treatment stops , a treatment that attacks symptoms not causes. Here we had a group called Pharmapact fighting to preserve natural / complementary healing but we got nowhere fighting the billions that these people can deploy. Thank you for your interest. Best Regards, Julius Kabrun -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT
Hi everyone, I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I will be placing it on my future website in full. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
Re: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT
Yes, Jan please share the document, thanks, Nancy Jan Stoeten wrote:Hi everyone, I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I will be placing it on my future website in full. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
Re: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT
Hi Jan, Kun je mij dit rapport doormailen en je website. mvg EMILE At 23:23 01-03-2004 +0100, you wrote: Hi everyone, I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I will be placing it on my future website in full. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT
I would like to append the following offer by requesting all of you to include your private email address. Otherwise everything will end up on the eskimo list. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Jan Stoeten To: Silver List Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:23 PM Subject: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT Hi everyone, I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I will be placing it on my future website in full. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
CS>Re: silver-digest Now QUESTION?
Since 'Wells' have been mentioned, it made me think of a question I'd been meaning to ask. A friend bought a place with a well and she says they can't drink it, as it has Giardia in it.They found that out after the entire family got very sick, and it was recommended by their doctor to check their well water. Anyone know if C/S has been used by someone for this purpose and if it worked.She's been told to use chlorine in the water, but even that takes so darned long to take out of the water and I don't know how long it actually stays in the well. They tried that a long time ago, but the Giardia just came back. Any tips, hints, etc.I don't mind her coming over and filling jugs w/well water from here, but what a pain in the XXX for her to do on a daily basis. There has to be a better way. marian On Feb 29, 2004, at 6:19 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi Ken; we had this problem with the iron bacteria where I used to live. Since it was necessary to pump the water 280 feet plus vertical to the storage tank for the uphill people on the spring, I rigged a spray (smashed 1/4" copper tube end, creative vise-gripping) from the output side back into the spring. This broke up the colonies, stirred and aereated the spring water, and worked pretty well as long as the copper tube end was reworked every coupla weeks; it tended to plug up otherwise. Previous water-lackey had used bleach once a week, which would turn Kool-aid absolutely clear in about 5 minutes for the next day. I think your air injection would work very well. Take care, Malcolm At 08:17 AM 2/17/04 -0500, you wrote: Not quite as mixed up as somewhat ignorant. I have only observations to go by as any info I've found on the subject starts at chlorine injection and ends with 'Pay me for chemicals and equipment while you deal with chemicals in your water that are worse than the bacteria' Thanks Dude! The majority of minerals in this area are red clay [iron], quartz and chist [sedimentary] BTW, since dumping a gallon of CS into the well, the majority oof deposits left over from boiling have changed from red to mostly white [calcium probably] as it was before the rock quarry [granite] re-opened. I'm a little concerned about what's going on in the septic tank with all that CS in the water. The change may have something to do with how cold it is lately too. Do you think that bubbling air through the water while it's in the well will take the bacterium out of the cycle? 129 PSI is fairly easily do-able. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT
..or, one could go here and get it: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:06:43 +0100 "Jan Stoeten" writes: I would like to append the following offer by requesting all of you to include your private email address. Otherwise everything will end up on the eskimo list. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Jan Stoeten To: Silver List Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:23 PM Subject: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT Hi everyone, I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I will be placing it on my future website in full. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
Re: CS>teeth-need help-cs
May I beg your pardon the Oz Colloidal Silver is mostly 15 ppm !!! Regards Sandee The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Now QUESTION?
A close friend said it took 3 weeks of 10 ppm to knock 'em out of his system. Don't know how many times a day he took it and what quantities. Just keep at it. stuff At 04:04 PM 3/1/2004 -0800, you wrote: Since 'Wells' have been mentioned, it made me think of a question I'd been meaning to ask. A friend bought a place with a well and she says they can't drink it, as it has Giardia in it.They found that out after the entire family got very sick, and it was recommended by their doctor to check their well water. Anyone know if C/S has been used by someone for this purpose and if it worked.She's been told to use chlorine in the water, but even that takes so darned long to take out of the water and I don't know how long it actually stays in the well. They tried that a long time ago, but the Giardia just came back. Any tips, hints, etc.I don't mind her coming over and filling jugs w/well water from here, but what a pain in the XXX for her to do on a daily basis. There has to be a better way. marian On Feb 29, 2004, at 6:19 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi Ken; we had this problem with the iron bacteria where I used to live. Since it was necessary to pump the water 280 feet plus vertical to the storage tank for the uphill people on the spring, I rigged a spray (smashed 1/4" copper tube end, creative vise-gripping) from the output side back into the spring. This broke up the colonies, stirred and aereated the spring water, and worked pretty well as long as the copper tube end was reworked every coupla weeks; it tended to plug up otherwise. Previous water-lackey had used bleach once a week, which would turn Kool-aid absolutely clear in about 5 minutes for the next day. I think your air injection would work very well. Take care, Malcolm At 08:17 AM 2/17/04 -0500, you wrote: Not quite as mixed up as somewhat ignorant. I have only observations to go by as any info I've found on the subject starts at chlorine injection and ends with 'Pay me for chemicals and equipment while you deal with chemicals in your water that are worse than the bacteria' Thanks Dude! The majority of minerals in this area are red clay [iron], quartz and chist [sedimentary] BTW, since dumping a gallon of CS into the well, the majority oof deposits left over from boiling have changed from red to mostly white [calcium probably] as it was before the rock quarry [granite] re-opened. I'm a little concerned about what's going on in the septic tank with all that CS in the water. The change may have something to do with how cold it is lately too. Do you think that bubbling air through the water while it's in the well will take the bacterium out of the cycle? 129 PSI is fairly easily do-able. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT
There is a big difference: the document you mention is stretched out over 6 consecutive web pages. The document I refer to is single page view and rather neatly put together. That is of course not an attempt to diminish the quality of the web document. On the contrary, their site is neatly structured and very well designed. The only thing is, if you want to save the web document, you have to save 6 seperate webpages. If you want to forward the web document, you have to include 6 different files. Just right for people who have nothing to do! All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands - Original Message - From: David S Osborne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:08 AM Subject: Re: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT ..or, one could go here and get it: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:06:43 +0100 "Jan Stoeten" writes: I would like to append the following offer by requesting all of you to include your private email address. Otherwise everything will end up on the eskimo list. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Jan Stoeten To: Silver List Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:23 PM Subject: CS>DEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT Hi everyone, I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I will be placing it on my future website in full. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Now QUESTION?
Not sure of using CS, but I do know you can put concentrated H2O2 in an injector made for chlorine. I have one on my well and looked into using 35% H2O2 instead. Hot Tubs use it as a substitute for Chlorine or Bromine. Garnet On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 18:04, Marian & Hounds wrote: > Since 'Wells' have been mentioned, it made me think of a question I'd > been meaning to ask. A friend bought a place with a well and she says > they can't drink it, as it has Giardia in it.They found that out > after the entire family got very sick, and it was recommended by their > doctor to check their well water. > > Anyone know if C/S has been used by someone for this purpose and if it > worked.She's been told to use chlorine in the water, but > even that takes so darned long to take out of the water and I don't > know how long it actually stays in the well. They tried that a long > time ago, but the Giardia just came back. > > Any tips, hints, etc.I don't mind her coming over and filling jugs > w/well water from here, but what a pain in the XXX for her to do on a > daily basis. There has to be a better way. > > marian > > > On Feb 29, 2004, at 6:19 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Ken; we had this problem with the iron bacteria where I used to > > live. Since it was necessary to pump the water 280 feet plus vertical > > to the storage tank for the uphill people on the spring, I rigged a > > spray (smashed 1/4" copper tube end, creative vise-gripping) from the > > output side back into the spring. This broke up the colonies, stirred > > and aereated the spring water, and worked pretty well as long as the > > copper tube end was reworked every coupla weeks; it tended to plug up > > otherwise. Previous water-lackey had used bleach once a week, which > > would turn Kool-aid absolutely clear in about 5 minutes for the next > > day. I think your air injection would work very well. > > Take care, Malcolm > > > > At 08:17 AM 2/17/04 -0500, you wrote: > > > >> Not quite as mixed up as somewhat ignorant. > >> I have only observations to go by as any info I've found on the > >> subject > >> starts at chlorine injection and ends with 'Pay me for chemicals and > >> equipment while you deal with chemicals in your water that are worse > >> than > >> the bacteria' > >> Thanks Dude! > >> > >> The majority of minerals in this area are red clay [iron], quartz and > >> chist [sedimentary] > >> BTW, since dumping a gallon of CS into the well, the majority oof > >> deposits > >> left over from boiling have changed from red to mostly white [calcium > >> probably] as it was before the rock quarry [granite] re-opened. > >> I'm a little concerned about what's going on in the septic tank with > >> all > >> that CS in the water. > >> The change may have something to do with how cold it is lately too. > >> > >> Do you think that bubbling air through the water while it's in the > >> well > >> will take the bacterium out of the cycle? 129 PSI is fairly easily > >> do-able. > >> > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>teeth-need help-cs
Hi Sandee... Begging yours...or did you mean because it is silver citrate? http://www.wateroz.com/minerals/Silver.htmAt tested by Frank Key...results, silver citrate... a rose... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Colloidal Silver ppm reading in Oz
I was answering the person who said that the C.S. in Oz read at 150 ppm I think - have just been looking for the e-mail and cannot find it, must have deleted it after I clicked reply, so I do not remember who wrote it, but it was to do with the topic of - argyria caused by over dozing on C.S. or for those with selenium and Vit E deficiencies. My other question is how many glasses of water were/was the person in question drinking if they were drinking less than 8 - 8 oz glasses per day then anything is possible because healthy elimination cannot take place !!! Regards Sandee The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Colloidal Silver ppm reading in Oz
Well, probably several post then from various sources, as I posted recently about cs and acrylic fillings...having been warned that silver turns plastic gray, then said it was at the time I was buying oz silver, at 150 ppm. I remember the woman who wrote to the list about her argyria, had a few pms with her. Since she felt she got nowhere with oz, I called the rep I always dealt with and sent her copies of the information. Shortly after that the ppm was reduced to 100 ppm...when I inquired as to why got a big "dunno" and the label was changed to take only for limited time, instead of take every day and this will never hurt you sort of thing. That was the beginning of my disillusionment with oz...they originally told me I could take tons of silver with no ill effects, just to be aware that it turns plastic, formica etc, gray. So naturally I never used it as a hold in your mouth wash. After lots of research, and discussion on the list, and Frank's test results, came to the understanding the silver I make is the best for me. That is why I now want to try it for a mouth wash...but had still wondered if anyone got gray teeth... According to the oz site I checked tonight it is still being sold at 100 ppm. They also sell a concentrate (one quart = a gallon) that is 400 ppm. Curious as to where you got the 15 ppm? a rose... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>double post
sorry everyone, don't know why my post are doubling...first the silver robot tells me I am not subscribed, then it double sends my messages... will check with mike... a rose... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Economical Survival Foodstuff
Thanks Brooks and David, At 09:55 AM 2/29/04, you wrote: Their homepage is http://www.buckwheatgrowers.com/. Here is another article with a few growing facts such as seeding rates and yields per acre. http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/aginfo/procrop/oat/paulse05.htm The protein content ranges from 20 to 23 percent. I would like to see an amino acid profile on this food. USDA did not reply to "paul oats", so I simply looked at regular oats for a review of amino acids. The amino acid looks better than I expected. Would anyone suggest that this food will be metabolized as a "complete protein"? Not sure this link will work http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/list_nut.pl One may have to do the search to see the report I got at the above link. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Colloidal Silver ppm reading in Oz
just to put my two cents in here, my daughter just moved into a new house and I spilled some cs water on her new sink in her bathroom and it turned a dark grey and I put straight clorox on it several times before it went away not sure what the sink was made of I came home and dropped it on my sink and left it there all day and nothing Lynda - Original Message - From: "a rose..." To: Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:50 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Colloidal Silver ppm reading in Oz > Well, probably several post then from various sources, as I posted recently > about cs and acrylic fillings...having been warned that silver turns > plastic gray, then said it was at the time I was buying oz silver, at 150 > ppm. I remember the woman who wrote to the list about her argyria, had a > few pms with her. Since she felt she got nowhere with oz, I called the rep > I always dealt with and sent her copies of the information. Shortly after > that the ppm was reduced to 100 ppm...when I inquired as to why got a big > "dunno" and the label was changed to take only for limited time, instead of > take every day and this will never hurt you sort of thing. That was the > beginning of my disillusionment with oz...they originally told me I could > take tons of silver with no ill effects, just to be aware that it turns > plastic, formica etc, gray. So naturally I never used it as a hold in > your mouth wash. After lots of research, and discussion on the list, and > Frank's test results, came to the understanding the silver I make is the > best for me. That is why I now want to try it for a mouth wash...but had > still wondered if anyone got gray teeth... > According to the oz site I checked tonight it is still being sold at 100 > ppm. They also sell a concentrate (one quart = a gallon) that is 400 ppm. > Curious as to where you got the 15 ppm? > > a rose... > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: silver-digest Teeth-Need Help- C/S
Geepers Rose, I just realized that the stirrer in my Generator is already grey where it goes into the water while the CS is brewing. Now *I* also need to know about this. And if it does change color, how can you change it back?(so many smart folks here, I expect to get answers to both questions.) marian On Mar 1, 2004, at 9:04 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: My question, long standing, but never ask is, I have acrylic fillings and know that silver can turn plastic gray...has anyone used cs and had a reaction to it filling wise? This warning came to me when I was buying oz silver, so this may be a mute question with homemade. I have just been leery to hold silver in my mouth and one day notice I have lovely gray teeth. thanks in advance, a rose... __ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
