Re: CS>Gold CS

[Paul Holloway]

Hi Brickey,

Yes, I found that dark gold CS seems to suck gunk out of the sinuses when used 
as a flush, and stains fungal material black or brown. This doesn't seem to 
happen with weaker CS. It's good to have someone confirm this.

Paul H
  - Original Message - 
  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 6:14 PM
  Subject: CS>Gold CS


  I made up 2 pints of dark gold CS that tested around 35 PPM and used them for 
sinus flushes with my Grossan water pick.  Dark black stuff came out after a 
flush.  I tried regular 10 PPM CS and did not notice the black stuff.  Paul may 
have found that the burnt CS does something for sinus problems.

  A friend has cysts on his testicles.  I told him that DMSO works for internal 
cysts and a CS/DMSO spray could maybe reach the cysts.  Any ideas?
  Brickey

Re: CS>(OT) LED therapy..COMMENT

[Brooks Bradley]

  Dear Steve,
I do not know if others have, already, addressed your inquirybut if not, I 
offer this:  The unit you mention can be, successfully, utilizedbut will 
require using color filters over the lens.  This is not all badespecially 
as you can employ it in a rather wide color spectrum use by just placing 
Roscolene [or other true filter colors] material over
the lens.  The Red filter should be close enough to 660-680 nm for good 
results.  One proviso howeverbecause of the increase in distance from the 
actual bulbs, there will be some reduction in tissue penetration depth.  
However, because of the excellent strength of the unit you mentionquite 
adequate penetration should result (about 1/2" I suspect).  I would discourage 
you from attempting to change out any of the LED bulbs presently extant in the 
flashlight, as most units of this type are imbedded in a resin bedrather 
than replaceable sockets---presenting a very challenging circumstance for 
achieving an economical successful modification.
Additionally, you would not be gaining sufficient advantage (in my opinion) to 
justify such action.
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.   

---
Harborne Research Foundation

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DATE: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 21:08:58 
From: 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: 

>
> Harbor Frieght has a 13 LED flashlight for $20. Would this work well for LED 
> therapy? Can I replace the some of the white LEDs with red and infrared LEDs 
> ? 
>Thanks
>Steve
>
>the link:
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3652
>
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Re: CS>TV show on silver

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I was re-reading Rob Faigin's excellent book "Natural Hormonal 
Enhancement" yesterday, and noted his claim that shortly after 
tryptophan was taken off the market -- because of one toxic batch from 
Japan -- the product was made into a prescription-only drug for 
insomnia and tension.


I had not known about the prescription scam.   It was evidently done 
very, very quietly.   The result is that a safe, inexpensive 
nutraceutical is now a safe, expensive prescription drug.


Very convenient indeed.It is not hard to imagine something similar 
happening with CS.





JBB



On Saturday, Jun 12, 2004, at 10:51 Asia/Tokyo, Tom wrote:


I saw this show and of course they attacked CS, as well I also did some
investigating and found that Dr. Bruce Bouts the so called expert, is 
one of
Stephen Barret's henchmen, as well I couldn't find much on his 
credentials

as well but that doesn't matter he is still an unreliable source of
information. Rosemary Jacobs used her famous statement, I had cancer 
at 42

and silver didn't help me. Duhh she wasn't taking silver then either.

When it comes to bashing CS I really believe they are shooting 
themselves in
the foot, the famous saying. "Me thinks thou protests too much" comes 
to
mind. People really aren't happy with conventional medicine and 
looking for

alternatives, while they may have scared a few people "alot" of people
aren't as gullible as they think and are going to look into it, as 
they know
when conventional medicine tries to quelch something it usually means 
it
works and they are trying to discredit it. I have talked to someone in 
work
who knows I use it, and he saw that show, he made a joking comment 
about me
turning blue, but I was also able to show him it does work a few times 
on
myself (though he was still skeptical) he is more convinced it works 
now

after seeing the idiots at ABC try to discredit it.

Bravo losers at ABC you have done your job well.

- Original Message -
From: "C. Hatzfeld" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:15 PM
Subject: CS>TV show on silver


> Just saw an ad for tomorrow's Good Morning America (ABC) and they'll 
be
> doing a piece on silver supplements and that they can turn your skin 
blue.

>
> Cindy Hatzfeld
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest POISON IVY RELIEF

[Robb Allen]

For poison Ivy..nothing works like oregano oil directly on the infected
areait will be completely gone overniteI get terrible cases
of ivy.but oregano oil takes care of it every time..Robb
The High Power Magnetic Pulser
Near Infrared Therapy
www.highpowermagneticpulser.com
- Original Message -
From: "Marian & Hounds" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:29 PM
Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest POISON IVY RELIEF


> > exposure to poison ivy, then bathing yourself in hot water;
> > "add--bathe with
> >> old-fashioned Octagon Soap".
> >>
>
> My friend's sson was very susceptible to poison ivy and had previously
> had to go to the hospital when he got it, as it made him deathly ill.
>
> He had him immerse himself in a bathtub of Epsom Salts water daily,
> and his son got over it within about 3 days.
>
> I'm curious as to what the Epsom Salts did to help in such a drastic
> case.
> Can anyone explain it to me?   And, is there something better he should
> be using?
>
> Thanks,
> marian
>
>
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Re: CS>Gold CS

[Brickeyk]

In a message dated 6/11/2004 9:09:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
ami...@starband.net writes:
cysts on the testicles within the scrotum?

My friend rode a bike for exercise. Cause of the Cysts?
Brickey

RE: CS>Gold CS

[James Holmes]

Brooks' group says there is not point in using more than 10%.

Yeeowwwch!. 

How can you possibly know? 

JOH

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:02 PM
To: Silver List
Subject: Re: CS>Gold CS


I would advise him to start with a low DMSO concentration, say 10% and work
up so that he does not cause irritation. Yeoowwwch! 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethySulfoxide-DMSO

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 12:14, brick...@aol.com wrote:
> I made up 2 pints of dark gold CS that tested around 35 PPM and used 
> them for sinus flushes with my Grossan water pick.  Dark black stuff 
> came out after a flush.  I tried regular 10 PPM CS and did not notice 
> the black stuff.  Paul may have found that the burnt CS does something 
> for sinus problems.
>  
> A friend has cysts on his testicles.  I told him that DMSO works for 
> internal cysts and a CS/DMSO spray could maybe reach the cysts.  Any 
> ideas? Brickey


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RE: CS>TV show on silver

[James Holmes]

I think the big Pharms coming out with silver-impregnated adhesive bandages
will do more than everything on this list to change popular opinion.
 
JOH

-Original Message-
From: Tom [mailto:tha...@ec.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>TV show on silver


I saw this show and of course they attacked CS, as well I also did some
investigating and found that Dr. Bruce Bouts the so called expert, is one of
Stephen Barret's henchmen, as well I couldn't find much on his credentials
as well but that doesn't matter he is still an unreliable source of
information.

RE: CS>Gold CS

[James Holmes]

"A friend has cysts on his testicles"  Just clarifying. Did you mean
scrotum, or are the cysts on the testicles within the scrotum?
 
JOH

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From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:14 AM
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Gold CS


I.
 
A friend has cysts on his testicles.  I told him that DMSO works for
internal cysts and a CS/DMSO spray could maybe reach the cysts.  Any ideas?
Brickey

Re: CS>TV show on silver

[Tom]

I saw this show and of course they attacked CS, as well I also did some
investigating and found that Dr. Bruce Bouts the so called expert, is one of
Stephen Barret's henchmen, as well I couldn't find much on his credentials
as well but that doesn't matter he is still an unreliable source of
information. Rosemary Jacobs used her famous statement, I had cancer at 42
and silver didn't help me. Duhh she wasn't taking silver then either.

When it comes to bashing CS I really believe they are shooting themselves in
the foot, the famous saying. "Me thinks thou protests too much" comes to
mind. People really aren't happy with conventional medicine and looking for
alternatives, while they may have scared a few people "alot" of people
aren't as gullible as they think and are going to look into it, as they know
when conventional medicine tries to quelch something it usually means it
works and they are trying to discredit it. I have talked to someone in work
who knows I use it, and he saw that show, he made a joking comment about me
turning blue, but I was also able to show him it does work a few times on
myself (though he was still skeptical) he is more convinced it works now
after seeing the idiots at ABC try to discredit it.

Bravo losers at ABC you have done your job well.

- Original Message - 
From: "C. Hatzfeld" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:15 PM
Subject: CS>TV show on silver


> Just saw an ad for tomorrow's Good Morning America (ABC) and they'll be
> doing a piece on silver supplements and that they can turn your skin blue.
>
> Cindy Hatzfeld
>
>
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest POISON IVY RELIEF

[Garnet]

I used Epsom Salts in baths and packed it on to my arms that were badly
blistered. It was not that effective for me. Yarrow and clay politice
took it out in one 20 minute session, I also used Comfrey and Slippery
Elm but it was the Yarrow that is the PI remedy specifically, the other
two are healing as well.

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 18:29, Marian & Hounds wrote:
> > exposure to poison ivy, then bathing yourself in hot water; 
> > "add--bathe with
> >> old-fashioned Octagon Soap".
> >>
> 
> My friend's sson was very susceptible to poison ivy and had previously
> had to go to the hospital when he got it, as it made him deathly ill.
> 
> He had him immerse himself in a bathtub of Epsom Salts water daily,
> and his son got over it within about 3 days.
> 
> I'm curious as to what the Epsom Salts did to help in such a drastic 
> case.
> Can anyone explain it to me?   And, is there something better he should
> be using?
> 
> Thanks,
> marian
> 
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CS>breaks down collagen

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Garnet,

At 04:01 PM 6/11/04, you wrote:

and breaks down collagen so may reduce the capsule around the cyst.


   The phrase, "breaks down collagen" caught my attention.

Does this mean defective or mal-formed collagen or all collagen?

Collagen is one of the things I am trying to study because so many friends 
have collapsing disk and bone problems.


I understand your statement to mean the cyst is fully encapsulated with 
collagen.  Likely this is collagen out of place or in some way defective 
collagen.



Wayne



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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest POISON IVY RELIEF

[Marian & Hounds]

exposure to poison ivy, then bathing yourself in hot water; 
"add--bathe with

old-fashioned Octagon Soap".



My friend's sson was very susceptible to poison ivy and had previously
had to go to the hospital when he got it, as it made him deathly ill.

He had him immerse himself in a bathtub of Epsom Salts water daily,
and his son got over it within about 3 days.

I'm curious as to what the Epsom Salts did to help in such a drastic 
case.

Can anyone explain it to me?   And, is there something better he should
be using?

Thanks,
marian


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Re: CS>Gold CS

[Garnet]

I would advise him to start with a low DMSO concentration, say 10% and
work up so that he does not cause irritation. Yeoowwwch! That is such
sensitive skin that he will also want to moisturize with Aloe Vera Gel
or Emu Oil, something that is holistic, no impurities and deeply
penetrating, that is what I like about Emu Oil, it is also non-greasy,
soaks right in and the skin seems dry no oily film.

DMSO will penetrate the cyst and silver will kill any microbes, DMSO
also kills microbes, increases circulation (oops maybe the new Viagra,
JK), and breaks down collagen so may reduce the capsule around the cyst.

Tell him about the DMSO list if he is on line.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethySulfoxide-DMSO

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 12:14, brick...@aol.com wrote:
> I made up 2 pints of dark gold CS that tested around 35 PPM and used
> them for sinus flushes with my Grossan water pick.  Dark black stuff
> came out after a flush.  I tried regular 10 PPM CS and did not notice
> the black stuff.  Paul may have found that the burnt CS does something
> for sinus problems.
>  
> A friend has cysts on his testicles.  I told him that DMSO works for
> internal cysts and a CS/DMSO spray could maybe reach the cysts.  Any
> ideas?
> Brickey


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CS>Gold CS

[Brickeyk]

I made up 2 pints of dark gold CS that tested around 35 PPM and used them for 
sinus flushes with my Grossan water pick.  Dark black stuff came out after a 
flush.  I tried regular 10 PPM CS and did not notice the black stuff.  Paul 
may have found that the burnt CS does something for sinus problems.

A friend has cysts on his testicles.  I told him that DMSO works for internal 
cysts and a CS/DMSO spray could maybe reach the cysts.  Any ideas?
Brickey

RE: CS>hives

[James Holmes]

-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CS>hives
It simply removes the allergen, that is an oil.  I think any kind of soap
will work just as well. 

JOH

Hi JOH & Garnet,

Thanks to each of you for the very helpful information and advice you
regularly share on this wonderful site along with many other experienced
experts who are so generous with "us seekers!"

In addition to removing infected clothes, laundering them immediately upon
exposure to poison ivy, then bathing yourself in hot water; "add--bathe with
old-fashioned Octagon Soap"

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 8:55 AM
To: Silver List
Subject: RE: CS>hives


Great information! How many of us think to do this after possible exposures?
Have not had PI in years myself, but I always keep plenty of Yarrow around,
since that first discovery. Having it all over in winter is a drag since
your clothes rub the blisters!

Would like to try Jewel weed, as it sounds interesting, but am not going to
self experiment on purpose! LOL

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 00:01, James Holmes wrote:
> If you can take a thorough bath or shower within 3-4 hours of 
> exposure,
even
> sensitive people will usually have no reaction to poison oak or ivy.  
> I
once
> lived at a hot springs that was quite remote in the mountains.  We had 
> a phone wire that would be overgrown and needed to have the brush 
> around it cleared.  We would work directly in grandfather sized poison 
> oak.  The
plant
> climbed up trees, and some were 4 inches in diameter at the base.  We
threw
> our clothes directly in the washer without delay, and jumped into the
pools;
> no reaction.
>
> JOH
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:17 AM
> To: Silver List
> Subject: Re: CS>hives
>
>
> On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 19:26, Charles Sutton wrote:
> > I have since heard that human urine, (your own is ok), will stop it 
> > almost immediately.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy
>
> Garnet
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CS>hives, Octagon Soap

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Richard,

exposure to poison ivy, then bathing yourself in hot water; "add--bathe with

old-fashioned Octagon Soap".


 I bet many of  the youngsters have never seen or heard about Octagon Soap.

Possibly you would tell us about the active ingredients that make Octagon 
Soap of some value.


Wayne





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RE: CS>hives

[Richard Harris]

Hi JOH & Garnet,

Thanks to each of you for the very helpful information and advice you
regularly share on this wonderful site along with many other experienced
experts who are so generous with "us seekers!"

In addition to removing infected clothes, laundering them immediately upon
exposure to poison ivy, then bathing yourself in hot water; "add--bathe with
old-fashioned Octagon Soap". Also, if your dog or cat has been exploring in
PI, wash them immediately, as they can bring in the unwanted Urishinol (PI)
and rub against you and furnishings, continuing the discomfort.

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 8:55 AM
To: Silver List
Subject: RE: CS>hives


Great information! How many of us think to do this after possible
exposures? Have not had PI in years myself, but I always keep plenty of
Yarrow around, since that first discovery. Having it all over in winter
is a drag since your clothes rub the blisters!

Would like to try Jewel weed, as it sounds interesting, but am not going
to self experiment on purpose! LOL

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 00:01, James Holmes wrote:
> If you can take a thorough bath or shower within 3-4 hours of exposure,
even
> sensitive people will usually have no reaction to poison oak or ivy.  I
once
> lived at a hot springs that was quite remote in the mountains.  We had a
> phone wire that would be overgrown and needed to have the brush around it
> cleared.  We would work directly in grandfather sized poison oak.  The
plant
> climbed up trees, and some were 4 inches in diameter at the base.  We
threw
> our clothes directly in the washer without delay, and jumped into the
pools;
> no reaction.
>
> JOH
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:17 AM
> To: Silver List
> Subject: Re: CS>hives
>
>
> On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 19:26, Charles Sutton wrote:
> > I have since heard that human urine, (your own is ok), will stop it
> > almost immediately.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy
>
> Garnet
>
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RE: CS>hives

[Garnet]

Great information! How many of us think to do this after possible
exposures? Have not had PI in years myself, but I always keep plenty of
Yarrow around, since that first discovery. Having it all over in winter
is a drag since your clothes rub the blisters!

Would like to try Jewel weed, as it sounds interesting, but am not going
to self experiment on purpose! LOL

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 00:01, James Holmes wrote:
> If you can take a thorough bath or shower within 3-4 hours of exposure, even
> sensitive people will usually have no reaction to poison oak or ivy.  I once
> lived at a hot springs that was quite remote in the mountains.  We had a
> phone wire that would be overgrown and needed to have the brush around it
> cleared.  We would work directly in grandfather sized poison oak.  The plant
> climbed up trees, and some were 4 inches in diameter at the base.  We threw
> our clothes directly in the washer without delay, and jumped into the pools;
> no reaction.
> 
> JOH
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:17 AM
> To: Silver List
> Subject: Re: CS>hives
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 19:26, Charles Sutton wrote:
> > I have since heard that human urine, (your own is ok), will stop it 
> > almost immediately.
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy
> 
> Garnet
> 
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RE: CS>[List Owner] Comment...,

[mousoul]

Thank you Dan
I appreciate this ...
Christos


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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Comment...,


However, occasional appeasement and flattery may be required...

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Dan


Re: CS>[List Owner] Comment...,

From: Christos Moussouliotis wrote:
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:21:02




Hi all,
"I expect (from you Mr. Mike D.) civil, courteous, and considerate
behavior at all times and in all discussions, regardless of topic.
Aggressive behavior will not allowed. Attacks, ridicule and insults are

unacceptable"

I totally agree
Christos Moussouliotis

Journalist
(working as a publisher for 10 years and in a greek daily newspaper for

20)..


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:22:13 -5, M. G. Devour 
wrote:

> !!!
>
> I think this thread illustrates aptly just how *impossible* it is to
> communicate succinctly in an all-text medium such as this!
>
> Was I casting aspersions on all of our alternative thinkers?
>
> Was Bill's post *really* tongue-in-cheek?
>
> Am I insulted by his "OT Loony Bin" remark?
>
>  (Organ music, with lots of tremolo!)
>



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