CS>silver chloride
Marshall, The "MSDS FOR SILVER CHLORIDE, 99%" you cited. What is "Silver Chloride, 99%"? What is the "99%" referring to? It sounds like a strength far beyond what would naturally occur in everyday use, even making CS. Is this like "Hydrogen Peroxide, 35%", which is something to be very careful with? There are precautions that should be taken with 35% H2O2 that wouldn't need to to be taken with standard 3% pharmacy H2O2. Terry __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS for prevention of Valley Fever?
Has anyone had any experience with using CS to prevent or to treat Valley Fever? http://vfce.arl.arizona.edu/ValleyFever/valley_fever.htm I would very much appreciate any experience anyone has had with this disease. TIA, paula -- Realists are the pins in a room full of fantasy balloons. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Skin Cancer
I recently had news that Greg Caton, of altcancer.com, was finally released from prison after many months, and will be sentenced soon. I have been told that all the facts about his arrest and incarceration will eventually be made available. As to whether the fine products of altcancer.com/Alpha Omega labs are made available again, well, we can only hope. JBB On Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004, at 01:24 Asia/Tokyo, Acmeair wrote: try can-x or cansema. cansema might not be available anymore because of our friendly FDA, and i have personally witnessed can-x taking out a skin cancer. 14 days and it was gone. jim - Original Message - From: "Tuttle, Elizabeth" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: CS> Skin Cancer Any suggestions for hor to use Colloidal Silver on a spot of skin cancer? Thanks. Beth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
What is EIS? Linda Jones lin...@hamilton.net - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: Re: CS>tap water CS > James Holmes wrote: > Which I believe is due to the prophylactic effect that the particles in EIS have > for argyria. > > Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Lyme Photos LYME CURE with SALT !
- Original Message - From: "Robb Allen" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:52 PM Subject: CS>Lyme Photos > > Hi everyone.I would like to hear some of you > comment on the following website > www.lymephotos.com > they claim that they have eliminated lyme from their > bodies by taking 1 gram of salt and 1 gram of vit C at > the same time.12 times a day.and they have > some pretty remarkable pictures on the > website..waiting to hear from you.Robb > > > = > The High Power Magnetic Pulser > http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/magneticpulser/ > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Skin Cancer
Hi, Anyone want private information on where to buy Cansema, just write me. Stoolies are NOT welcome! Jean Baugh ** > > thanks for the heads up. can you place an order, and get delivery? i > scanned the home page, and it appears that the head man is still being > prosecuted. what a win for our side if these people beat this rap. > > - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Skin Cancer
thanks for the heads up. can you place an order, and get delivery? i scanned the home page, and it appears that the head man is still being prosecuted. what a win for our side if these people beat this rap. - Original Message - From: "C. Hatzfeld" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:27 PM Subject: Re: CS>Skin Cancer > When I do an internet search on Cansema it's still available. > http://www.altcancer.com/cansema.htm > > Cindy > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Skin Cancer
When I do an internet search on Cansema it's still available. http://www.altcancer.com/cansema.htm Cindy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Skin Cancer
try this. got it from a google search "can-x black salve" http://www.canxproducts.com/ - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: CS>Skin Cancer > Hi Jim, > > Is Can-X the same thing as Cansema? If so, where can it be bought? > > My sister tried Cansema on the bridge of her nose on what looked like a > black freckle. What a reaction this was! Clear and gone now! Another spot > didn't react at all so this says it wasn't cancer. > > The FDOA is responsible for more deaths than all the inmates on death row! > We need a special place to put these devils. I suggest something like the > middle of the desert without water. > > Thank you, > > Jean Baugh > > *** > > > try can-x or cansema. cansema might not be available anymore because of our > > friendly FDA, and i have personally witnessed can-x taking out a skin > > cancer. 14 days and it was gone. > > > > jim > > > > > > - > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>Skin Cancer
Hi Jim, Is Can-X the same thing as Cansema? If so, where can it be bought? My sister tried Cansema on the bridge of her nose on what looked like a black freckle. What a reaction this was! Clear and gone now! Another spot didn't react at all so this says it wasn't cancer. The FDOA is responsible for more deaths than all the inmates on death row! We need a special place to put these devils. I suggest something like the middle of the desert without water. Thank you, Jean Baugh *** > try can-x or cansema. cansema might not be available anymore because of our > friendly FDA, and i have personally witnessed can-x taking out a skin > cancer. 14 days and it was gone. > > jim > > > - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
James Holmes wrote: > Marshall, > > "Which I believe is due to the prophylactic effect that the particles in EIS > have for argyria." > > At your convenience, will you please give more info on that. > I have posted on this several times previously. Argyria is caused by silver compounds circulating in the blood. Upon exposure to light in the skin, they spontaneously reduce to silver atoms as they do in film when exposed to light. These atoms will be small enough to either not get caught in the tissue, or will be too small to absorb light, thus not causing any effects by themselves. If the blood stream has sufficient silver compounds in it, and a developer such as caffine in it, then the silver compounds will plate out onto the silver atoms causing them to grow to silver particles that are large enough to absorb light. If this growth rate is sufficiently fast, then these particles can become stuck in the surface tissues, with argyria as the result. Now however if you have taken EIS, which is 20% particles, then any silver compounds in the blood will have both any atoms that appeared in the skin as well as the colloidal particles that are in the EIS to plate out onto. Now if we assume that the average size of a particle of EIS is 2 nm, then it will have a diameter of approximately 10 silver atoms. If the full 80% remaining silver ions plate out evenly onto the particles, then they will grow a diameter of 21.5 atoms, or just under 5 nm in diameter. This will be too small to get caught in the tissues, and even if they did, it would be throughout the body, not just in the skin where it shows. The result is that the ionic silver is quickly depleted from the blood, so that very few atoms of silver will appear in the skin upon exposure to light, and those that do will grow at a rate too slow, and not grow sufficiently in size, to cause them to get caught in the tissues. The colloidal portion of the EIS will act as a collector of silver compounds and limit both the concentration of them in the blood, as well as eliminate them from the blood over time. Thus, silver particles should help prevent silver compounds from depositing in the skin causing argyria. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>tap water CS
Marshall, "Which I believe is due to the prophylactic effect that the particles in EIS have for argyria." At your convenience, will you please give more info on that. TIA JOH -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>tap water CS James Holmes wrote: > Hi Linda, > > You wrote: > > "The point is that anecdotal stories don't provide sufficient evidence > for the prevention of argyria because of the differences in people. " > > That is true, but they tend to support the information available in > medical databases. No one has been able to produce a case documenting > Argyria caused by even long-term use of pure electro-colloidal > silver. Which I believe is due to the prophylactic effect that the particles in EIS have for argyria. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
James Holmes wrote: > Hi Linda, > > You wrote: > > "The point is that anecdotal stories don't provide sufficient evidence for > the prevention of argyria because of the differences in people. " > > That is true, but they tend to support the information available in medical > databases. No one has been able to produce a case documenting Argyria > caused by even long-term use of pure electro-colloidal silver. Which I believe is due to the prophylactic effect that the particles in EIS have for argyria. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>tap water CS
Hi Linda, You wrote: "The point is that anecdotal stories don't provide sufficient evidence for the prevention of argyria because of the differences in people. " That is true, but they tend to support the information available in medical databases. No one has been able to produce a case documenting Argyria caused by even long-term use of pure electro-colloidal silver. JOH -Original Message- From: Linda Jones [mailto:lin...@hamilton.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>tap water CS The argument that "I didn't develop argyria from using 'x' type of silver" or "I didn't develop argyria from using 'x' amount of silver" as trying to validate why one particular type or amount of silver does not cause argyria, is not sufficient to base an evaluation for the risks of developing argyria on, because different people have different genetic abilities to excrete silver, and different ability to produce glutathione and process silver through the detoxification systems of the body due to other toxins or metabolic problems. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS> Skin Cancer
I would use CS with 20% DMSO, by volume. Keeping a bandage in place and spraying with the mixture occasionally will probably work faster. JOH -Original Message- From: Tuttle, Elizabeth [mailto:elizabeth.tut...@unisys.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS> Skin Cancer Any suggestions for hor to use Colloidal Silver on a spot of skin cancer? Thanks. Beth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS> Skin Cancer
Also search "Bio-T". The site has color pictures identifying many types of surface cancers. JOH -Original Message- From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS> Skin Cancer try can-x or cansema. cansema might not be available anymore because of our friendly FDA, and i have personally witnessed can-x taking out a skin cancer. 14 days and it was gone. jim - Original Message - From: "Tuttle, Elizabeth" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: CS> Skin Cancer > Any suggestions for hor to use Colloidal Silver on a spot of skin > cancer? > > Thanks. > Beth > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List > archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT > Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>silver and 'good' bugs
Without giving any testing protocol the results are meaningless. I can also show that CS does not kill pathogenic bacteria, it is simply a matter of choosing what carrier to use in the testing. This result is completely contrary to every other test I am aware of that has been run, including my own, where controls have been used. I don't even see that they used any controls, and if not, the test it totally unscientific and meaningless. Marshall Terry Chamberlin wrote: > Two New Studies Released > American Biotech Labs (a private company in which > Clifton holds a 28.5% interest) has just released two > new studies on the ASAP Silver Solution. This data > concludes that the product is non-toxic to human cells > and does not harm the probiotic (helpful) bacteria. > > The New Studies > > American Biotech Labs (ABL) information arsenal > continues to grow with the release of two new and very > important independent studies. The first study showed > that the ABL Silver Solution is not cytotoxic; i.e. is > not harmful to human cells. Even at high > concentrations, the ABL Solution showed no negative > effect on human epithelial cells or Vero (African > Green Monkey) cells. The second analysis, tested > ABLs Silver Solution against four strains of > probiotic (friendly) bacteria. Probiotic bacteria are > the useful bacteria that aide in food digestion. > These bacteria are often destroyed by prescription > antibiotics. In the new probiotic tests, the ABL > products, even at extra strength levels, were found > not to hurt or damage the probiotic bacteria in any > way. > > What It Means > > The ABL Silver Solution has the ability to selectively > kill pathogenic bacteria without harming helpful > bacteria in the body. This ability to selectively > kill only harmful bacteria sets the ABL Silver > Solution apart from all other antimicrobials. > Management is not aware of any other product available > on the market that has these abilities. Said Keith > Moeller, These tests are of the utmost importance. > They can open numerous markets worldwide for the > Silver Solution. We have thousands of tests from > numerous independent laboratories proving the ability > of our disinfectant products to kill harmful bacteria > like Staphylococcus aureus, anthrax, E. coli, Y. > pestis (Bubonic Plague), Streptococcus pneumonia, > Salmonella, and others. That information, coupled > with the new data showing that the Silver Solution > does not harm friendly bacteria, can generate sales in > areas such as food disinfection, wound care, and > hygiene. The company has patents granted with other > patents pending on the product and process. ABL > company products are being sold as a nutritional > supplement and as an EPA-approved disinfectants. > > http://www.cliftonmining.com/ann0.htm > > This is the first legitmate scientific study to > indicate that silver DOESN'T kill 'friendly' bacteria, > but only 'bad' bugs. > > The legitimacy and credibility that this company is > creating with its silver research seems to be about to > sweep away all argument against the use of silver. My > only concern is that their patents may be used as a > way to exclude all others from selling > silver-containing products. Yet, if American Biotech > is able to do it, soon others will be doing it or > something like it too. > > Interesting, eh? > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>silver and 'good' bugs
Two New Studies Released American Biotech Labs (a private company in which Clifton holds a 28.5% interest) has just released two new studies on the ASAP Silver Solution. This data concludes that the product is non-toxic to human cells and does not harm the probiotic (helpful) bacteria. The New Studies American Biotech Labs (ABL) information arsenal continues to grow with the release of two new and very important independent studies. The first study showed that the ABL Silver Solution is not cytotoxic; i.e. is not harmful to human cells. Even at high concentrations, the ABL Solution showed no negative effect on human epithelial cells or Vero (African Green Monkey) cells. The second analysis, tested ABLs Silver Solution against four strains of probiotic (friendly) bacteria. Probiotic bacteria are the useful bacteria that aide in food digestion. These bacteria are often destroyed by prescription antibiotics. In the new probiotic tests, the ABL products, even at extra strength levels, were found not to hurt or damage the probiotic bacteria in any way. What It Means The ABL Silver Solution has the ability to selectively kill pathogenic bacteria without harming helpful bacteria in the body. This ability to selectively kill only harmful bacteria sets the ABL Silver Solution apart from all other antimicrobials. Management is not aware of any other product available on the market that has these abilities. Said Keith Moeller, These tests are of the utmost importance. They can open numerous markets worldwide for the Silver Solution. We have thousands of tests from numerous independent laboratories proving the ability of our disinfectant products to kill harmful bacteria like Staphylococcus aureus, anthrax, E. coli, Y. pestis (Bubonic Plague), Streptococcus pneumonia, Salmonella, and others. That information, coupled with the new data showing that the Silver Solution does not harm friendly bacteria, can generate sales in areas such as food disinfection, wound care, and hygiene. The company has patents granted with other patents pending on the product and process. ABL company products are being sold as a nutritional supplement and as an EPA-approved disinfectants. http://www.cliftonmining.com/ann0.htm This is the first legitmate scientific study to indicate that silver DOESN'T kill 'friendly' bacteria, but only 'bad' bugs. The legitimacy and credibility that this company is creating with its silver research seems to be about to sweep away all argument against the use of silver. My only concern is that their patents may be used as a way to exclude all others from selling silver-containing products. Yet, if American Biotech is able to do it, soon others will be doing it or something like it too. Interesting, eh? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>
List of current Regulator you can use on any DC power source to Make a constant current CS generator available from mail order electronic sources. You just have to pick the Mill amp rating you want I use around 1 mill amp, the regulator adjust voltage up or down with in specs of power supply To maintain constant 1 mill amp. Works on even a 3 volt DC source, you just move silver closer together, if you have a cheap volt meter You can watch voltage go down as you move silver closer together and also watch voltage go down as your CS gets stronger. I believe most of these regulators are under $5, you could have a constant current CS Generator for lest than $10 or less than $5 if you have a small power supply laying around. Bob <> Current_Regulators.pdf Description: Binary data
Re: CS>tap water CS
He didn't, but he may have made silver compounds with thousands of PPM of silver. That is easy with impure water. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/29/04 7:44:32 AM EST, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: > > << The senators problem was that he used 8 oz a day, every day, of what was > probably thousands of PPM silver. >> > > How the heck did he make a colloid with "thousands of PPM silver"? MA > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Skin Cancer
try can-x or cansema. cansema might not be available anymore because of our friendly FDA, and i have personally witnessed can-x taking out a skin cancer. 14 days and it was gone. jim - Original Message - From: "Tuttle, Elizabeth" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: CS> Skin Cancer > Any suggestions for hor to use Colloidal Silver on a spot of skin cancer? > > Thanks. > Beth > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS>Lyme Disease cure?
What levels of potassium are you finding helpful? Glad you are making progress. BW, Sheila > -Original Message- > From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] > Sent: 28 June 2004 17:08 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Lyme Disease cure? > > >I have no doubt that that is true as there is no definitive test for > Lyme. > As to a cure that is proven, that depends on what you mean by "proven". > In my case I need no more proof than the fact that I no longer have the > symptoms, all due to the use of CS. >My lyme disease was 42 years old with the beginning in 1957 while I > was in Germany in the US Army. At that time they had no knowledge of > such a malady. I had suffered with it for all that time and only 4 years > ago I got the migrans rash again that I seem to get occasionally only > that time I was seeing a doctor that wouldn't entertain the the notion > that I had Lyme so to shut me up he agreed to test me for Lyme. He > thought I probably had psoriasis because of the rash so he gave me some > stuff to keep it from itching Which it didn't anyway. >The test came back positive and that along with the rash was enough > for a clinical diagnosis. >It had progressed to the point that the neurological aspect had made > it to the point that I couldn't communicate my thoughts and the > arthritis had me on crutches with my knees almost as big as my waist. >I had been diagnosed with degenerative arthritis of the spine and had > lost over two inches in highth. >There is a ton more to tell but suffice it to say if i'm not cured I > at least have no more symptoms, I've gained back at least an inch in > highth and I can outrun any teenager that wants to challenge me. > As to the degenerate arthritis, I had been told that my limit was 25 > lbs.to lift with my back. Yesterday I lifted a 200 lb. engine totally > with my back without using my knees, by bending at the waist. >As far as the neurological I am more aware and able to communicate > quite well as you can see by reading this. >So am I cured? I doubt it but you might call it a permanent remission > that will endure as long as I keep up the CS. >The only problem I've encountered so far from the CS is that I am > Hypo thyroid and the leaching ( or binding with) selenium made a > worsening of the fatigue aspect. When I first kicked the hell out of the > Lyme spirochete My energy level increased dramatically but then after a > few months of CS it fell off to a totally unacceptable level. > Now I take a selenium and potassium supplement and am getting the energy > back slowly but surely. >That's my story, ( at least a small part of it) hope it helps > Dave > > > T J Garland wrote: > > Note the author says that 18,000,000 Americans may have the > disease. Are > > there any proven cures on this list using CS? TJ > > > > > > http://www.rense.com/general54/whatmakeslyme.htm > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 23/06/04 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 23/06/04
CS> Skin Cancer
Any suggestions for hor to use Colloidal Silver on a spot of skin cancer? Thanks. Beth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
In a message dated 6/29/04 7:44:32 AM EST, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: << The senators problem was that he used 8 oz a day, every day, of what was probably thousands of PPM silver. >> How the heck did he make a colloid with "thousands of PPM silver"? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Electroplating CS?
Probably, but you will need to cut the current way down. Marshall wwen...@aol.com wrote: > List, Is it possible to make CS with an electroplating machine? I > just inherited one. Thanks, Jules -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
Terry Chamberlin wrote: > Marshall said: > > Chlorine in the water will create Silver Chloride, > which can cause argyria. The senator that got argyria > is a good example. > > Actually, I have never read or heard of argyria caused > by silver-chloride. Can you cite this statement? Try http://www.howe.k12.ok.us/~jimaskew/msds/chlorisi.htm Since argyria is nothing more than the photographic process, and silver chloride is the primary silver compound used by photography, then the connection seems rather strong. The only question is the solubility factor. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>argyria
Linda Jones, The reason there isn't much in the way of research on silver is because it isn't a patentable substance. Anyone can make it thus the incentive for research (money) just isn't there.
Re: CS>tap water CS
The argument that "I didn't develop argyria from using 'x' type of silver" or "I didn't develop argyria from using 'x' amount of silver" as trying to validate why one particular type or amount of silver does not cause argyria, is not sufficient to base an evaluation for the risks of developing argyria on, because different people have different genetic abilities to excrete silver, and different ability to produce glutathione and process silver through the detoxification systems of the body due to other toxins or metabolic problems. For example, someone who is mercury toxic might be at increased risk of developing argyria, because part of how the body processes silver is through the same pathways that it uses to process mercury. (On the other hand, using large amounts of silver might increase the risk of developing mercury toxicity. And certainly some people's bodies may have no problems processing silver through other pathways) Some people have inherited genetic defects in the metallothionein system, or in glutathione production. Someone with reduced skin capillaries might not develop argyria because they don't circulate enough silver to the skin. The point is that anecdotal stories don't provide sufficient evidence for the prevention of argyria because of the differences in people. Some people have been able to reverse the effects of argyria. Others have ended up living with it permanently, without any evidence that it is visibly reducing. And that's probably because of the differences in their biochemistry and genetic makeup. It would be interesting if Rosemary Jacobs tried using the supplements that have been reported as reversing argyria to see if it improved her condition or not. In all likelihood, it is probably possible now to do medical testing to determine why she in particular developed argyria when others who used the same products that she used did not. I think that the body may handle different types of silver differently, or at least in part differently, and that may be why one particular type of silver is more likely to cause argyria than another. But the problem is that unless one has had some medical tests done to determine how their particular body processes particular types of toxins and such, there is no way to accurately predict who will develop argyria, and who will not, other than to look at what types of silver have been associated with the development of argyria. There are inevitably going to be some or many people who can take those types of colloidal silver WITHOUT ever developing argyria. There are undoubtedly some people who can drink coffee colored CS for long periods of time without a problem, and some people who will develop argyria from drinking even slight yellow or even clear CS. If there were more research on how silver is processed in the body, and more research on the people who have developed argyria, then it would be easier to make a predetermination of who is at risk, and remove the associated risks of taking one particular type of silver over another. And there also needs to be more research into the genetic makeup and detoxification abilities of people who have been successful at reversing argyria. That way, people would know if a particular type of silver was more likely to cause them to develop argyria, and there wouldn't be so much debate about why one form is better than another or not. You'd know which forms you could tolerate, and which you could not. Then the only issue is that certain types of silver are toxic to people in general no matter what, and those types should be avoided completely. So why isn't there more research being done on silver? Linda Jones lin...@hamilton.net -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
The senators problem was that he used 8 oz a day, every day, of what was probably thousands of PPM silver..and who knows what.. for 2 years...and probably was a susceptible one too. [One of those- one out of two thousand- silver working dust breathers who turn blue after a few years on the job] Silver chloride 'might' be a culprit...IF...the dose is high enough for long enough...and.. other factors are present. At 20 PPM and under, the water that it's in will kill you first. If you are very young, have the other factors present and survived drinking all that water every single day, you 'might' be blue at the funeral home. Ode At 11:01 PM 6/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Marshall said: > > Chlorine in the water will create Silver Chloride, >which can cause argyria. The senator that got argyria >is a good example. > >Actually, I have never read or heard of argyria caused >by silver-chloride. Can you cite this statement? The >EPA lists silver-chloride as a skin irritant, nothing >more. The senator made coffee-colored CS and drank 8 >oz/day for two years. This does indeed demonstrate >that it is possible to overdose on whatever compounds >were made in his tap water. The next question is, did >his argyria (faint blue only on his eyelids, according >to him) result from silver compounds, or simply >because he made CS with huge silver particles? (Large >enough to color it brown.) Then discussion of what the >mechanism is that causes argyria begins. Is it because >large particles get stuck in the capillaries of the >skin and turn dark from exposure to sunlight? Makes >sense. Or is it because of some other undefined >mechanism? Silver-nitrate is toxic, meaning it causes >harm to the body, it doesnt just cause argyria. It is >toxic AND causes argyria (in sufficient quantity). But >its toxicity is irrelevant to argyria. Argyria is not >caused by something toxic, but by silver or >silver-compound particles too large to make it through >the capillaries of the skin. This is evidenced by >silver smiths who got argyria from inhaling silver >dust (which are VERY large particles of silver) over a >long period of time. > >> Silver nitrate can form if there is any nitrate in >the water, which is most likely for most water >systems. Check any MSDS for silver nitrate and you >will find that silver nitrate is toxic. > >Yes, silver-nitrate is toxic, and is cited by the FDA >as such, but silver-nitrate causes argyria only when >taken in quantities and at levels significantly higher >than anything one could generate making CS in most tap >water. I am not pro-tap water, but I regularly see >folks treat CS that has any color or murkiness like it >was rat poison. I could not estimate the number of >gallons of yellow to gold (or murky) CS I have drunk >over the last five years, but have seen no blue in my >skin. > >I have also drunk coffee-colored CS from time to time. >I wouldnt do it regularly (unless I had to), but I am >not afraid to occasionally. > > >__ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Electroplating CS?
I don't see why not , off hand. I wouldn't use the vats maybe. Some of the electrolytes are really nasty. Tell more about it. Electroplate what? How big? Variable current? Ode At 11:19 PM 6/28/2004 EDT, you wrote: List, Is it possible to make CS with an electroplating machine? I just inherited one. Thanks, Jules -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Fwd: First sinus flooding just completed...
Hi Ole, I looked at the black fibrous material I washed out under a microscope, and compared it to photos of aspergillus I found on a mycology web-site. I identified it as aspergillus fumigatus on that basis, as it looked identical (fruiting bodies especially), and there were many spores of the right shape and size as well. Then I sent some of this material to a fungal lab (I worked in a pathology lab at the time and had access) and they cultured aspergillus fumigatus - the same species! This convinced me that I had this species living in my sinuses. My doctor disagrees, but the results of my MRI scan will be interesting - I find out tomorrow. At first I found that washing this stuff out made me feel worse, horribly sick, but eventually I started feeling better. The other thing that has really helped is the use of a magnetic pulser. I don't know about the black stain on the tongue, but I do know that CS will stain some fungus. As for washing out again after the flooding, I used to do this, and get out lots more black fibrous stuff, but then figured that I wanted to leave the fungus-killing solution in my sinuses for as long as possible. Trial and error is the only way with this I think. Best wishes, Paul H - Original Message - From: Ole Alstrup To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:12 PM Subject: CS>Fwd: First sinus flooding just completed... To Paul Holloway, Garnet & All, A follow-up about my enquiry about the sinus flooding procedure. I just finished my first sinus flooding procedure and will do the followup flooding in 20 minutes. I couldnt wait until I can obtain an irrigator like the Rinoflow. I used 20ppm Mesosilver to flood.. The CS liquid that came out after the flooding contained some black material, appearing like collections of small fine treads bundled together. Paul, you mentioned that this material is the aspergillus mold/fungus that has been killed/stained black by the CS. Where did you learn this? Can anyone offer further insights into this phenomenon? I noticed the rest of the liquid is quite clear, I am therefore wondering if the black stain could be the silver particles which have agglomerated because of the contact with the mucus? However, I have had several experiences in the past with oral use of GSE/GFSE before bedtime after brushing teeth, where parts of the back end of my tongue would be stained black in the morning. I dont have much coating on the tongue, but it would appear that the GSE/GFSE killed some kind of fungus, perhaps candida? Right now I feel quite warm in the face and a bit more clear and lucid. I have not been feeling well for many days, very fuzzyheaded, and suffering from sudden depression, I noticed it became worse the more CS I took, perhaps I am experiencing a herxheimer detox. Maybe I have had this infection longer than a few months, maybe for many years? I became very sick 10 years ago and had a cold sinus infection, I have never fully recuperated after this breakdown, despite many different natural therapies. My mother has suffered with sinus infections for more than 20 years, to the point of being an invalid, she has never been cured. Perhaps there is a weakness in the family or we have shared some living conditions which have excerbated the symptoms? All inputs are welcome, thanks. Ole PS. Do I do a Neti pot flushing after the second flooding? -- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself
CS>CS Commercial news
June 17, 2004 "...Commercial production is expected, in the next three months, to reach a level of 3,000 gallons per month. A spokesman for BRAM has informed ABL that they are in direct communication with all federal Brazilian laboratories with the purpose of expediting acceptance as a human drug, including prophylaxis..." http://www.cliftonmining.com/ann0.htm June 15, 2004 "Patents Filed on the New Silver Gel..." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
