Re: CSRe: Re; CS another....
Oh, we love it as a society, we hate it personally. Society as a whole is an impersonal entity where problems can be seen as societies problems, not ours personally. ..till it whups us, that is. and even then, it's not something that we did, ey? It's something that the rest of society did TO us. ...like stealing the value of all my LP gas bottles because 6 people managed to blow themselves up by abusing the old type that 'could' be overfilled. ..the war on idiocy through drugs. [Pass a law to make me smarter, or else.] ..like sueing McDoodos for getting fat. Makes me wonder why they didn't try to sue a chain manufacturer because they didn't chain their fat ass to a chair. Lack of imagination, I suppose. :-) I'm dangerously stupid...Hey YOU, Protect me from myself. [or else] No, not like that! You were supposed to control everyone else. LOL Ode At 10:29 AM 1/27/2005 -0800, you wrote: >other. If the planetary ecology is to survive civilization, fewer people is now a mandate. If governments are to survive spending on social programs and infrastucture upgrades... ever increasing numbers of taxpayers and ever >increasing GNPs are a mandate. >The balance point has been crossed. > China and India are beginning to tip the t Well-writt en,Ode.Unfortunately,wedon'tliketotakethesethings into account as a society, but it is the truth. Sally -- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/jibjabinaugural.html>Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005
RE: CSAnother microbiologist murdered
At 10:10 AM 1/28/2005 -0600, you wrote: At 10:10 AM 1/27/2005 -0500, Ode wrote: Will your great great great grandchildren be making stone tools while steel rusts away? Most probably. We don't live long enough to make a lasting contribution to civilization let alone figure out what's going on except in the arena of Divine Comedy. After all, if we could figure out what's going on maybe some would be able to do something about it...individually...which is the only way it will ever be done, contrary to popular belief. ## I do believe you've hit the nail on the head. If you do manage to figure anything out, it's that the only path that has any power at all, is an individual path. No one can change another mind. Differing points of view can be presented with varying degrees of force, but if a mind is to be changed, it's still that person making that decision. Force is not power. About the best it can do is eliminate opposition. It's really more an expression of helplessness. What does have power is a point of view that stands true on it's own merit, requiring no force for it to be seen and acted upon as it is, valid in its own right without any need for agreement to make it real or possibility of dissagreement to make it unreal. Power is by it's nature, very quiet...and always as individual as reality itself. It would appear that no two people live in the exact same universe and every one of them exercizes their inability to not create it...and so often deny that that power exists. In fact, each individual is so powerful that they can create the illusion of powerlessness and have it validated to perfection. ..including the idea that an individual is a true possibility and not just another fantasy requiring constant validation to be 'seen as' a truth. Conflict is that validation. If 'individual' is indeed a fantasy, then the Golden Rule cannot be truely broken. And all chaos is but a fantasy based on another fantasy. If 'individual' needs no validation, as no truth does, and the Golden Rule is a true rule that cannot be broken, there must truely be only one individual. ..and conflict becomes the game it is..nothing more than drama based on the illogical bootstrap magic of relativity perception I am I, because I am not you Space/time is defined as All the places I am not, validating the idea that I am here. ..and then the movie entitled Hall of Mirrors ends where recognition of power begins...so so quietly... I am a perfect liar. [Only possible if I don't believe it's true and I 'must' be a perfect liar if I believe that.] You are...the perfect validation that my lies are true...proof to my satisfaction that I exist as I think I do...the conflict that makes a hole [which is nothing at all] at all perceivable. Sh I once heard a mental patient say, I know I'm alive because that car is green. ..made sense to me! [in that, perfect sense and perfect nonsense are the same thing] LOL We and they are irrelevant no matter the calamity in the works. It's a do-it-yourself project. ## They are the scenery in which I play my me. I NEVER see 'them' as they are, only as I think they are. They are, therefore, an opinion holding an opinion...my very own arguement. If I change MY mind, I also change them in it. But in order to change my mind, I must suspend belief in my own arguements. That can be really hard for a perfect liar to accomplish. ;-) But since maintaining a lie requires immense effort, all I need do is nothing. I can't do nothing because I am what I am doing. I AM [unbelievably] believing what I think and thinking what I believe, proving it all to be true to my own satisfaction within the conflict scenery that holds it, and myself, as an event in spacetime. But then, there's really nothing to accomplish...nothing done to undo by doing nothing. ..not really.. Ode stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005
Re: CSMycoplasma infection
3 tablespoons a day of 10 PPM diluted into a whole body of blood is almost zilch...maybe enough to make a difference along with the immune system when preventing the 'establishment' of a microbe colony and maybe enough to limit the progress of a colony to some degree letting the immune system catch up...maybe, but in order for a colony to be destroyed, the kill rate has to be higher, by whatever means, than the replication rate. If the immune system isn't helping 3 tbs a day inhaled might have done something. [or 10 times that] Add a quart a day of 10 PPM orally and see if anything happens. If all that along with or without the antibiotics works, who cares what part did the most? Ode At 06:09 PM 1/28/2005 +, you wrote: A week ago I found out a friend had been sick with symptoms of whooping cough for about a month. I had no Mesosilver left, so I got hold of some standard 10ppm ionic CS and asked him to take 3 tablespoons a day. After some 3-4 days he felt no difference. A few days ago he learned from his doctor that the lab analysis had revealed he did not have whooping cough, but instead a severe mycoplasma infection of the lungs. Now he is on some specified antibiotic, but keeps taking the 10ppm CS. I wonder why the CS had no effect? Are larger/stronger doses of CS necessary to beat this? Would he have to nebulize it? Btw, is the oral CS contraindicated while he is taking the antibiotic? Thanks, - Ole Alstrup -- http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/default/messenger/*http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com>ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005
RE: CSUpdate on flu/cold that did not respond well to EIS
Hi Gwlynda, Listen to everything Brooks suggests--He's ONE of Several True, Generous Experts who share with us seekers on these Sites! I wanted to share this with you: upon making my CS from .% pure Silver wires + ONLY Steam distilled, ozonated water (I get it from Kash N Karry or Walgreen) + only dc current for the proper time, at the end of generating when I have Clear CS with a nice red laser beam showing Tyndall, I remove the wires, test with TDS meter usually getting a 6 to 7 reading x 2 (according to Ode, another Expert) = ppm and I label it 10 ppm and to a gallon, add 4 cc (1 iceteaspoonful) of 3% H2O2 (shake and label) that I buy from Drugstore and this improves the pathogen killing time. Check my Site and Blogspot and let me know if I cqn be of help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek [mailto:bulld...@irek.cbeyond.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSUpdate on flu/cold that did not respond well to EIS Importance: High Do you buy your Hydrogen peroxide at the grocery store / Wal Mart? How many do you mix with the CS? I make 5 gallons of CS at a time and I would like to mix Hydrogen peroxide with it but I'm not sure how much to mix. Thanks for you help! Gwlynda -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUpdate on flu/cold that did not respond well to EIS Hydrogen peroxide, normally 3% unless otherwise indicated. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS)T: Possible Response to Codex A. Effects
On 28 Jan 2005 at 16:21, Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Brooks, Welcome back. I do hope that you and yours are well. Could you also elaborate on how to extract the vit C. Here it is early autumn and there are hips on some of the wild rosebushes. Does one make a jam? or dry and crush the hips to be used as a tea? So glad you are back, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS:. RE Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins
You can reach him at 800-274-7897 from any us phone toll free, or 865-988-7906 internationally. His email address is cont...@byterunner.com He bought them for Y2K, but it never happened. Marshall Dennis Gulenchin wrote: Sorry Marshall, I must have missed that post when I was looking to buy silver. Oh well, even at the price I paid I think it is worth it as the CS I made so far has more than paid for those pieces of silver. Incidently is your son in Canada and how could one get ahold of him to buy more coins because as more people get interested in making their own CS, I would refer them to your son. Thanks, Dennis Marshall Dudley wrote: As I have posted here before, my son will gladly sell as many maple leafs as you want for $10 each. Marshall Dennis Gulenchin wrote: Pete, The total cost for the coins on ebay was about $16.00cad each. actually I got one maple leaf coin and a one ounce johnson matthey .999 silver bar- both same price. There is a maple leaf for bid now at 13.56 plus $2.50 shipping which is not bad.eBay item 3953953647 (Ends 28-Jan-05 11:16:12 EST) - 1992 5 DOLLAR MAPLE LEAF SILVER 1 OZ. COIN -MINT Dennis panamp...@aol.com wrote: Harold, Dennis, could I ask just how much you both paid forthe silver maple leaves?! Thanks Pete
Re: CSCS:. RE Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins
I used a lot of silver maple leafs when I first started making CS. They provided an inexpensive source of very pure () silver. However, I found a number of problems in using them. The main problem was the fact that the surface is irregular. There are many nooks and crannies where the silver ions are too close together, forming larger particles than would the case with a smooth surface. They were also very difficult to clean after a run, requiring the use of my Dremel with a wire brush. When I finally got the wire made I found that I could run the process at the same current and surface area for a much longer time before it starts turning yellow. This means that I have put more silver into the water (ionic and colloidal) while maintaining a relatively small particle size. Best regards, Arnold Beland www.atlasnova.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Gulenchin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: Re: CSCS:. RE Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins Sorry Marshall, I must have missed that post when I was looking to buy silver. Oh well, even at the price I paid I think it is worth it as the CS I made so far has more than paid for those pieces of silver. Incidently is your son in Canada and how could one get ahold of him to buy more coins because as more people get interested in making their own CS, I would refer them to your son. Thanks, Dennis Marshall Dudley wrote: As I have posted here before, my son will gladly sell as many maple leafs as you want for $10 each. Marshall Dennis Gulenchin wrote: Pete, The total cost for the coins on ebay was about $16.00cad each. actually I got one maple leaf coin and a one ounce johnson matthey .999 silver bar- both same price. There is a maple leaf for bid now at 13.56 plus $2.50 shipping which is not bad.eBay item 3953953647 (Ends 28-Jan-05 11:16:12 EST) - 1992 5 DOLLAR MAPLE LEAF SILVER 1 OZ. COIN -MINT Dennis panamp...@aol.com wrote: Harold, Dennis, could I ask just how much you both paid forthe silver maple leaves?! Thanks Pete -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.5 - Release Date: 1/26/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.5 - Release Date: 1/26/2005
CS[Fwd: cs test on milk]
on 7 january, i purchased a 1/2 gal of milk, the standard homogenized store stuff. added 15 ml of cs. this jug had a use by 18 jan. am in a single household, and used for coffee only. the milk was still sweet on 26 jan and was still 1/3 full so i added another 10 ml of cs. just used the last of the milk this a.m., 29 jan., and it was still sweet. i make cs 1 gallon at a time. distilled water that starts out at around 0.22 ma and i brew it till ma's go to around 1.50 to 1.75 ma and shows a fair tindle effect, and is stirred with an aquairium bubbler . at 0.22 ma, voltage is around 25.1 vdc. at 1.5 ma, voltage levels out at around 28.6 vdc. water is american fare from kmart, (so. calif.) just bought another jug with a 2-11-05 date on it. we'll see jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Re; CS another....
If you follow the leader of this mess called society (whatever the hell that shape shifter is) how can you complain when he doesn't take you where you wanted to go? stuff At 11:20 AM 1/28/2005 -0500, Ode wrote: I'm dangerously stupid...Hey YOU, Protect me from myself. [or else] No, not like that! You were supposed to control everyone else. LOL Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPurple Plate Tesla Technology
Hello: A tesla plate has a profound effect on the human body demonstrable by muscle and balance testing. That much I know and we are about 80% water so it isn't much of a stretch for me to know that they can affect water - the permanent effect on the pipes was what I was concerned about. Ian - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: Re: CSPurple Plate Tesla Technology I have never heard of that and am somewhat skeptical. My son uses the magnets on his well water to prevent calcification. Marshall Ian Roe wrote: Some time ago when water was being discussed on the OT list or the CS list, someone talked about something that they attached to their water pipe that actually changed the structure of the pipe. Even when they removed the -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp with...
Hi James, I hope by now you are feeling a bit more comfortable. Following the pc so necessary these days, I can tell you what I would do if I were in your shoes. I'd find a nearby practitioner who carries the Standard Process line of products and I'd get a couple of bottles of their Pneumotophin and start taking 2 per meal for a few weeks. These are more effective at rebuilding the target organ or gland than most, if not all, of the raw glandulars off the shelves at the local HFS. Standard Process' method of producing these raw glandulars leaves an live enzyme in the tablets. Over a period of time, variable by individuality, using these would strengthen the lungs. Among the many modalities available, this is one I would not miss and would use these tablets along with other procedures. I wish you a rapid and 'uneventful' recovery! Sharon From: James Allison What a long and trying day it's been! First and foremost, I want to thank all of you so much for all of your private emails to me, you people are about one of the greatest groups of people I have ever been in association with! As for the problem at hand, I went ahead and got the x-ray, and as I suspected, there was/is a problem. I'm at about a 10% collapse, in the upper portion of my left lung. No surgery or chest tube required at this time, so I am at home now and resting. I am told that this will most likely clear up on its own, which I believe it will. However, I am still interested in helping it to heal more quickly and more permanently (right now there is a 50% chance that it can collapse again within the next 6 months even if it heals fine). So please, keep those suggestions coming! I am going to close for now, but just wanted to give everybody an update. Am drugged up right now on painkillers (I forgot how good narcotics were!), so am not even going to attempt to respond to all the private messages that I got, as I am way to groggy/goofy. I did want to let everybody know that I am OKay though, as things were up in the air with my last message. Once again, thank you all so much for your emails. Mike, I'm sure you're aware of this already, but you have really made a place here that is full of loving and caring people. Thanks for doing what you do :) -James - Original Message - From: James Allison To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:09 AM Subject: CSHelp with... Hi everybody. Sorry I haven't said much lately, but I've been having problems that CS doesn't seem to help. I just got out of the hospital 2 weeks ago (did 6 days in there) due to a spontaneous pneumothorax (which is medical terms for a lung collapsing without any reason in particular. For those that are learned in the field, actual reason is blebs). I did have a chest tube in me for the time I was there, but I didn't opt for having the surgery where they go in and actually fix the problem (they basically cut, staple and glue your lung to the lung wall). To make a long story short, for the past couple of days I've had the same symptoms that I had before, and before going into a very scary situation (the whole hospital rigmarole) once again, I thought I would see if anybody here had any suggestions. I've done some lookups on the net, and almost everywhere says that surgery is the only real option. Does anybody know of any less evasive options for this? I'm gonna stick by the computer for a few more hours and hope for suggestions, then call and schedule an x-ray, which I think I already know the outcome of. If you don't here from me for a couple of weeks, you'll know the outcome as well ;) -James
