Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I second the motion.  I would be wiling to purchase a low-cost but 
well-made assembly.


JBB


On Friday, Apr 22, 2005, at 01:52 Asia/Tokyo, Vince Richter wrote:


I'm sure that an enterprising individual could help several people by
assembling and selling for a reasonable fee a complete apparatus for
airbrush nebulizing minus the oxygen bottle.  I for one would rather 
pay for

this and save the time it would take to find, procure, and assemble the
hoses and regulators etc...  I'm sure I'm not alone.  I'm perfectly 
capable
of doing all this myself, but have not taken the time and probably 
won't
until an alternative minded loved one is faced with a serious 
condition.  I

would like to have the apparatus before that happens.

I realize this list is not for the commercial ventures of this nature, 
but
an announcement of this availability and request for private email 
inquiries
would seem to be appropriate.  Maybe Mike would have a more preferred 
way of

providing this service, but however it's done I would be interested in
paying someone to provide this.

Thanks,

Vince

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From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:28 AM
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Subject: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

Tackling drug-resistant pneumonia with colloidal silver

The procedure outlined here will work on any lung pathogen including
anthrax;  In fact, an M.D. in the USA has been using this type of 
procedure
for 10 years and is proposing it for anthrax. Here it is, straight 
from the

lab:

The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for
some effective procedure for attacking the bilateral form of those
bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the
antibiotic protocols. We have evaluated colloidal silver and many 
methods

of its employment. Only one method was ever rapidly effective in an
"essentially terminal" evaluation. The methodology employed in these
experiments included the following protocol: Using a very fine particle
nebulizer, a 25 psi to 35 psi, regulated O2 supply as the gas drive 
and a
colloidal silver mixture compounded as follows: Starting with 8 ounces 
of
10 ppm colloidal silver (warmed to approx. 105 degrees F.) dissolve 
MSM in

this solution to the point of saturation (until no more will go into
solution); next add 20 per cent by volume of DMSO to the parent 
mixture.


The complete report:

http://philaero-wellness.com/content/view/160/


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CS> Archives are back. Messages are gone.

[Mike Monett]

Good news. The archives are back up. For how long is the question.

Apparently all postings since Monday, 18 April, are missing. Maybe they 
will arrive later, maybe not.

Unfortunately, my email software discards the digest, so I am missing all 
the messages posted since sometime on Monday.

If they don't show up, would some kind souls consider checking the 
archives later and reposting if their message didn't make it? 

We wouldn't want these pearls of wisdom to be lost to mankind forever.

Would we??

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>Heartworm Preventive

[Brickeyk]

In a message dated 4/21/2005 8:29:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
gotoh...@aol.com writes:
green walnut hulls can be very toxic; personally I wouldn't risk giving those 
over the 1/5 Interceptor.
I give both my two dogs and one cat a drop each day of green walnut tincture 
which I made. I have been doing this for at least 5 years as recommended by DR 
Clark in "The Cure For All Diseases."
Brickey

CS>Heartworm Preventive

[GoToHoll]

Here's a link to an FDA report on the effectiveness of giving a lower  dose 
of Interceptor for preventive. Safeheart dosage is 1/5 the dose amt. of  
Interceptor and is effective against heartworms (though at the lower dose it is 
 not 
effective against hookworms, roundworms, etc...)   Safeheart is  not to my 
knowledge marketed in the US, but you can use  Interceptor at the  Safeheart 
dose.  For example, a 50lb. dog could be  given the 10lb. dose to prevent 
heartworms. Unless a dog is also at constant  high risk of getting hookworms, 
roundworms, and/or whipworms along with the  risk of heartworm, then it makes 
no 
sense to give 5 times the necessary  dose. Don't know if CS/EIS is capable of 
killing the microfilaria in the  bloodstream, which is how heartworm is 
'prevented', but it couldn't hurt. On the  other hand, black and green walnut 
hulls can 
be very toxic; personally I  wouldn't risk giving those over the 1/5 
Interceptor.
Laura H., TX
 
 
_http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/1365.htm_ (http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/1365.htm) 

RE: CS>Faith laser

[Faith Saint Francis]

Thanks Debbie .. I'll try.
FSF


From: Deborah Gerard 
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Subject: CS>Faith laser
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:35:04 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Faith,
I bought a laser light too...turned off the room light and shook the jar a 
little and could see the tiny silver specks, hope that helps.

Debbie


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CS>question on SilverGen

[kallie miller]

I need some support please that my choice of a Silver Gen 6 colloidal silver
maker was a good one.  I have taken Trem's suggestion of asking the list.

The first unit I received had to be sent back due to a problem they have had
with a part that does not show up until the SG 6 is used.  This caused me a
whole weekend of distress about "what did I do wrong to wreck this expensive
device"?  However, Trem reassured me that it was a defective part and I
breathed a sigh of relief.

I received my replacement and finally got to make a couple of quarts of
silver.  The first quart set at medium strength measures 3 ppm on my Hanna
TDS which Trem says should be doubled or more for the real count.

The second quart on the highest setting measures 6 which doubled is 12 or
more.  On the website it says the Silver Gen will make up to 20 ppm.  I have
ordered one of the testers which Trem says is accurate yesterday from him so
I will know the actual strength.

I purchased a Silver Gen 6 as a person told me that I could make a gallon of
20 ppm over night and it would shut off automatically.  This was confirmed
by Trem before I purchased.  I have to watch and turn off the inexpensive CS
maker I already had which makes clear 20 ppm (10 on my TDS) CS easily in my
gallon pickle jars without having to do anything with the electrodes which
are the Canadian silver coins.  An electronics repair friend of mine made it
for me and it wouldn't pass the safety test so is on the dangerous side and
requires strict awareness:>)  I haven't a clue about the electrical
specifications as it just plugs into the wall receptacle.

Trem tells me I am going to have to adjust space between the electrodes and
the depth of the electrodes in the water to obtain a higher ppm in the SG6.
This was not something I thought I would have to do when I purchased a
professionally made unit and don't have to do with my cheap unit.

Would someone share their experience and satisfaction with the Silver Gen 6
and hopefully bolster my sagging spirits around this device?  Has anyone
else had a problem making the higher ppms with the Silver Gen 6?  Do you
have to move the electrodes and how do you have them to make the higher ppm?

Thank you in advance for your support

Kallie Miller



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CS>Faith laser

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi Faith,
I bought a laser light too...turned off the room light and shook the jar a 
little and could see the tiny silver specks, hope that helps.
Debbie

Re: CS>heartworms

[sol]

http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/heartworm.htm
http://mwr.nasb.navy.mil/vet%20clinic.htm

Excuse my ignorance, but I see no stage of the lifecycle of a heartworm 
that would be susceptible to DE?

sol


Terry Chamberlin wrote:

 


Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all
parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can
usually be purchased from a swimming pool supply, as
well as nurseries and feed stores.

   

 




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Re: CS>CO2 and EIS

[Marshall Dudley]

I am not sure it means anything, except maybe why some people have made (or 
think they
have made) EIS with an ionic content over 30  ppm despite the limited 
solubility of
silver hydroxide and silver oxide.  Silver carbonate has a solubility of 32 
ppm, so in
conjunction with silver hydroxide and silver oxide, it should be possible to 
have an
ionic content of about 60 ppm.

I believe that silver carbonate will convert to silver chloride upon contact 
with
stomach acid, so the end result should not be significatnly differerent than if 
there
is no silver carbonate.  But until more research is done I can't say for sure.

Marshall

sol wrote:

> pH of commercial distilled water must vary by area? Back when I was
> still using it, I tested several jugs, I believe and all were around pH 5.
>
> Is the silver carbonate harmful? Is it inactive as far as pathogens are
> concerned? What does it actually mean in practical terms if there is
> silver carbonate in the EIS?
>
> TIA,
> sol
>
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
> > <>
> >
> >
> >I have found that most DW right out of the jug seems to be pretty close to a 
> >pH of
> >7, so not much CO2 is in there. Plus your measurements showed an increase of 
> >CO2
> >concentration of between .5 and 1 ppm, and since the max is .58 ppm, you had 
> >to
> >have started with a pretty low amount.
> >
> >I have a pH meter and will try some tests tonight, but I will have to stir 
> >the
> >water by hand in my tests.
> >
> >Marshall
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>heartworms

[Marshall Dudley]

Diatomacious earth is great for intestinal worms, but it canot get to the
heart.

Marshall

Terry Chamberlin wrote:

> Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all
> parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can
> usually be purchased from a swimming pool supply, as
> well as nurseries and feed stores.
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Re: CS>CO2 and EIS

[sol]

pH of commercial distilled water must vary by area? Back when I was 
still using it, I tested several jugs, I believe and all were around pH 5.


Is the silver carbonate harmful? Is it inactive as far as pathogens are 
concerned? What does it actually mean in practical terms if there is 
silver carbonate in the EIS?


TIA,
sol

Marshall Dudley wrote:


<>


I have found that most DW right out of the jug seems to be pretty close to a pH 
of
7, so not much CO2 is in there. Plus your measurements showed an increase of CO2
concentration of between .5 and 1 ppm, and since the max is .58 ppm, you had to
have started with a pretty low amount.

I have a pH meter and will try some tests tonight, but I will have to stir the
water by hand in my tests.

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Re: CS>heartworms

[M. G. Devour]

> Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all
> parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can
> usually be purchased from a swimming pool supply, as
> well as nurseries and feed stores.

I might suggest steering clear of the stuff from the garden center and 
possibly the swimming pool supply. You need a food grade or feed grade 
diatomacious earth which has not been treated by heating.

Apart from that caveat, I've heard good thinges about D.E. as well.

Mike D.

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Re: CS>Heartworm treatment

[Marshalee]

Hi, Elaine,
Well, I read that microfilaria are one-celled organisms, and as such, CS 
ought to nail them.
We don`t have much heartworm in Utah, but even so my 3 Pugs get CS in 
their water, or occasionally a bowl of straight CS.

So far so good.
Marshalee


I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal
silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs.  We have to Bichon Frise boys
and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments:  They
haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be
be infected eventually.  The holistic products I've found so far contain
black walnut hulls and other things that the "boys," as we call them, are
allergic to.

I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very
good luck.  My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it
beneficial.  But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs
with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites.

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Kind regards,
Elaine
Kansas City, MO



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Re: CS>Heartworm treatment

[Sally Khanna]

I give my horses diatomaceous earth as a natural wormer. A lot of horsemen do 
the same.
 
Sally

bbanever  wrote:
Elaine,

I have a 7 year old Bichon... I've never given him any heartworm 
medication and he's just fine. He's never been sick a day in his life I 
stopped all vaccinations (with the exception of rabies) 4 years ago. CS 
will kill any single celled organism it comes in contact with... don't know 
if that applies to heart worms though.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Elaine" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: CS>Heartworm treatment


> I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal
> silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs. We have to Bichon Frise boys
> and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments: They
> haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could 
> be
> be infected eventually. The holistic products I've found so far contain
> black walnut hulls and other things that the "boys," as we call them, are
> allergic to.
>
> I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very
> good luck. My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it
> beneficial. But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating 
> dogs
> with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites.
>
> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
>
> Kind regards,
> Elaine
> Kansas City, MO
>
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CS>heartworms

[Terry Chamberlin]

Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all
parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can
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CS>stomach bacteria and probiotics-dogs and heartworm

[Betsy Coffey]

I had several comments to make. I am always interested
in any article about probiotics because people seem to
have various responses to them.
Lactobacilli bacteria is becomming very popular esp
due to the rise of candida infections. It seems to
help alot of people but i have problems with it. When
I use probioitcs on a regular basis, I tend to get
sores in my mouth. Fermented foods esp apple cidar
vineager causes major candida flares for me. My sister
uses it during allergy season and says it really helps
her asthma. I have also heard of other people saying
it really helped their candida so it helps to hear all
opinions. I agree with the idea of using bifido
bacteria and think it might be a better choice since
it affects both the lower and upper intestine. ONe
comment on inulin-I have read just the opposite about
it. It can be very helpful for feeding good bacteria,
but there has been concern that it can also feed bad
bacteria causing an overgrowth in the wrong kind of
bacteria growing in the gut. A friend of mine had some
major problems after using a probiotic with FOS in it.
She had been tested and the test revealed an
overgrowth of bad bacteria. Just my opinion and if
someone has another view, I would welcome hearing it.
I am also cautious with flea preventatives as I have
known people who attribute their pets illness after
using advantaqe flea protectant. I wonder about the
heart worm drugs also. Maybe liquid olive leaf would
help keep those worms away if the dogs could tolerate
it. ONe of the vets that I have talked to advises me
to stay away from dog parks because dogs can pick up
alot being in those areas where alot of dogs frequent.
My dog doesnt seem to enjoy the company of other dogs
anyway and  prefers the companionship of the family
who she considers to be her"pack"

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Re: CS>Heartworm treatment

[Rich Adams]

- Original Message - 


But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs

with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites.


Probably because no one has shown it (EIS) to be effective in 
preventing/killing adult or juvenile heartworm.


Preventing carrying mosquitoes from infecting your dog w/ heartworm, I don't 
believe can be achieved using a silver solution.


Langsley Russell, an owner of the silverpets list, has a page all about HW 
and the chances your dog can get it here:

http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/heartworm.htm

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CS>Which Plastics Are Safe?

[Info - Silver Colloids]

This article explains which plastics leach chemicals into water or other
liquids.



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RE: CS>Heartworm treatment

[Dave and Gwlynda Irek]

Elaine,

I give my bulldogs and labs CS every morning for their first bowl of
drinking water.  My understanding with CS is it kills parasites, fungus, and
bacteria on contact. Dogs get heartworms from mosquitoes and I'm not sure
that CS would help prevent heartworms disease. If you have allot of
mesquites in your area I would continue with a heartworm prevention
medicine. I still use Ivomec injection on my dogs for heartworm prevention. 

I also drink the CS and have never felt better in my whole life. I believe
that it has killed most of the parasites and bad bacteria in my body.

Good Luck with your boys!

Gwlynda 
Country Ridge Bulldogs

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From: Elaine [mailto:ela...@kc.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Heartworm treatment

I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal
silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs.  We have to Bichon Frise boys
and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments:  They
haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be
be infected eventually.  The holistic products I've found so far contain
black walnut hulls and other things that the "boys," as we call them, are
allergic to.

I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very
good luck.  My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it
beneficial.  But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs
with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites.

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Kind regards,
Elaine
Kansas City, MO



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Re: CS>Heartworm treatment

[bbanever]

Elaine,

 I have a 7 year old Bichon... I've never given him any heartworm 
medication and he's just fine.  He's never been sick a day in his life I 
stopped all vaccinations (with the exception of rabies) 4 years ago.  CS 
will kill any single celled organism it comes in contact with... don't know 
if that applies to heart worms though.


   Bob
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From: "Elaine" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: CS>Heartworm treatment



I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal
silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs.  We have to Bichon Frise boys
and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments:  They
haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could 
be

be infected eventually.  The holistic products I've found so far contain
black walnut hulls and other things that the "boys," as we call them, are
allergic to.

I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very
good luck.  My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it
beneficial.  But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating 
dogs

with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites.

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Kind regards,
Elaine
Kansas City, MO



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Re: CS>CO2 and EIS

[Marshall Dudley]

Trem wrote:

> Hi Marshall,
>
> I had agreed with you to run our SG7 without the electrodes but with the
> vigorous stirring the submergible pump provides.  It causes the water
> surface to be in constant motion so if the water increased conductivity by
> absorbing Co2 it should be measurable by using the PWT meter.  It didn't
> change much..  starting reading was 1.8-2.0 uS as measured with three
> meters.  End reading was 2.7-2.9 uS.  This was in a gallon of DW.

Since equilibrum of CO2 with the atmostphere is at about .58 ppm, if you started
with no CO2 in the water and ended up with .58 ppm, which is the maximum unless 
you
are breathing on it, that should increase the conductivity by about .6 to .8 or 
so
in conductance.  That is pretty well what you got.

>
>
> I ran the pump for about 18 hours and the reading increased by less than 1
> microsiemen.  Since I can produce ionic readings of 45-60 uS using only
> distilled water and silver, it appears the reading must be silver ions since
> they are the only thing the meter can read other than the little bit of Co2.
>

Not necessarily.  Remember that the stability point of CO2 in the water is about
.58 ppm.  You seem to have experimentally come up with about the same value.  
Now
as you make EIS, the CO2 forms a carbonate, and the equilibrum shifts toward non
saturation.  So additional CO2 can be absorbed into the water while making EIS.
How much can get made will depend on how fast it gets absorbed, and how long it 
is
run for.  That is why the experiments you are doing are important, they can 
answer
these questions.  But I think we may need to use pH instead of conductivity for
good sensitivity of the absortion rate.

>
> I didn't drive any Co2 off and do not have a pH measurement for you.  My pH
> meter may or may not be in calibration at this point so the reading would be
> meaningless.  The water was taken directly from a gallon of supermarket DW.
>

I have found that most DW right out of the jug seems to be pretty close to a pH 
of
7, so not much CO2 is in there. Plus your measurements showed an increase of CO2
concentration of between .5 and 1 ppm, and since the max is .58 ppm, you had to
have started with a pretty low amount.

I have a pH meter and will try some tests tonight, but I will have to stir the
water by hand in my tests.

Marshall

>
> Trem
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:16 AM
> Subject: CS>CO2 and EIS
>
> > All previous posts on the composition of EIS have ignored the CO2
> > factor.  I have explored this and have some interesting information.
> >
> > Water at room temperature will equalize with the CO2 present in the
> > air.  Although air contains about 350 or so ppm of CO2, the water will
> > absorb .58 ppm of CO2 before equalizing with the air.  The math to
> > figure this out can be found at
> > http://www.chem.usu.edu/~sbialkow/Classes/3650/Carbonate/Carbonic%20Acid.html
> > and other sites list the concentration as about .5 ppm.
> >
> > Pure water that has equalized with the CO2 in the air will have a pH of
> > 5.65. I have found references that report that normal rain is about 5.7,
> > so this jives pretty well.
> >
> > If you leave water in a glass, the surface will quickly equalize with
> > the air, but diffusion of the CO2 to below the surface is quite slow.
> > So if EIS is produced from water that has stabilized with the air and
> > not stirred, the amount of silver carbonate will be about 3.6 ppm.
> >
> > However if the water is agitated so that the surface layer is
> > continually mixed with the rest of the volume, then as CO2 is consumed
> > by forming a carbonate, more will be absorbed from the air.  If this is
> > taken to the limit, then up to 32 ppm of silver carbonate (the
> > solubility limit) can be formed.
> >
> > The unanswered question is just how fast CO2 will be absorbed from the
> > air.  I believe there is an easy way to tell with any particular setup.
> > First take distilled water and check the pH. If it is close to 7 then
> > great, if not, then heat it up to boiling to drive off the CO2.  Once
> > cooled (without stirring), check the pH and it should be around 7. Be
> > sure to heat in plastic in a microwave, or glass on the stove, any
> > metals will likely add trace contaminates that will affect the pH or act
> > as a buffer invalidating the results.
> >
> > Now place the water into the device for making EIS and run it with NO
> > electrodes.  Sample the pH over time and record how fast it changes.
> > This will give the information as to how fast CO2 is absorbed from the
> > air with any particular stirring arrangement. Once we have that
> > information, it should be relatively easy to figure out the
> > concentration of silver carbonate formed by any device when making EIS.
> > Although simply leaving the electrodes, and not running current through
> > them may appear to be the same, any silver oxide on the electrodes can
>

Re: CS>CO2 and EIS

[Trem]

Hi Marshall,

I had agreed with you to run our SG7 without the electrodes but with the 
vigorous stirring the submergible pump provides.  It causes the water 
surface to be in constant motion so if the water increased conductivity by 
absorbing Co2 it should be measurable by using the PWT meter.  It didn't 
change much..  starting reading was 1.8-2.0 uS as measured with three 
meters.  End reading was 2.7-2.9 uS.  This was in a gallon of DW.


I ran the pump for about 18 hours and the reading increased by less than 1 
microsiemen.  Since I can produce ionic readings of 45-60 uS using only 
distilled water and silver, it appears the reading must be silver ions since 
they are the only thing the meter can read other than the little bit of Co2.


I didn't drive any Co2 off and do not have a pH measurement for you.  My pH 
meter may or may not be in calibration at this point so the reading would be 
meaningless.  The water was taken directly from a gallon of supermarket DW.


Trem

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: CS>CO2 and EIS



All previous posts on the composition of EIS have ignored the CO2
factor.  I have explored this and have some interesting information.

Water at room temperature will equalize with the CO2 present in the
air.  Although air contains about 350 or so ppm of CO2, the water will
absorb .58 ppm of CO2 before equalizing with the air.  The math to
figure this out can be found at
http://www.chem.usu.edu/~sbialkow/Classes/3650/Carbonate/Carbonic%20Acid.html
and other sites list the concentration as about .5 ppm.

Pure water that has equalized with the CO2 in the air will have a pH of
5.65. I have found references that report that normal rain is about 5.7,
so this jives pretty well.

If you leave water in a glass, the surface will quickly equalize with
the air, but diffusion of the CO2 to below the surface is quite slow.
So if EIS is produced from water that has stabilized with the air and
not stirred, the amount of silver carbonate will be about 3.6 ppm.

However if the water is agitated so that the surface layer is
continually mixed with the rest of the volume, then as CO2 is consumed
by forming a carbonate, more will be absorbed from the air.  If this is
taken to the limit, then up to 32 ppm of silver carbonate (the
solubility limit) can be formed.

The unanswered question is just how fast CO2 will be absorbed from the
air.  I believe there is an easy way to tell with any particular setup.
First take distilled water and check the pH. If it is close to 7 then
great, if not, then heat it up to boiling to drive off the CO2.  Once
cooled (without stirring), check the pH and it should be around 7. Be
sure to heat in plastic in a microwave, or glass on the stove, any
metals will likely add trace contaminates that will affect the pH or act
as a buffer invalidating the results.

Now place the water into the device for making EIS and run it with NO
electrodes.  Sample the pH over time and record how fast it changes.
This will give the information as to how fast CO2 is absorbed from the
air with any particular stirring arrangement. Once we have that
information, it should be relatively easy to figure out the
concentration of silver carbonate formed by any device when making EIS.
Although simply leaving the electrodes, and not running current through
them may appear to be the same, any silver oxide on the electrodes can
dissolve and affect the pH.

Marshall





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Re: CS>Heartworm treatment

[Marshall Dudley]

Elaine wrote:

> I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal
> silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs.  We have to Bichon Frise boys
> and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments:  They
> haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be
> be infected eventually.  The holistic products I've found so far contain
> black walnut hulls and other things that the "boys," as we call them, are
> allergic to.

Well silver will not kill the adults worms directly.  They may starve the worms
if it can kill the bacteria they need for digestion, but I am not aware of
anyone trying it for that.  As for the microfilaria, whether it will kill them
directly or not is a good question.

>
>
> I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very
> good luck.  My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it
> beneficial.  But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs
> with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites.
>

Generally it is not effective against multicelled parasites.

Marshall

>
> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
>
> Kind regards,
> Elaine
> Kansas City, MO
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CS>Heartworm treatment

[Elaine]

I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal
silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs.  We have to Bichon Frise boys
and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments:  They
haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be
be infected eventually.  The holistic products I've found so far contain
black walnut hulls and other things that the "boys," as we call them, are
allergic to.

I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very
good luck.  My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it
beneficial.  But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs
with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites.

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Kind regards,
Elaine
Kansas City, MO



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RE: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

[Vince Richter]

I'm sure that an enterprising individual could help several people by
assembling and selling for a reasonable fee a complete apparatus for
airbrush nebulizing minus the oxygen bottle.  I for one would rather pay for
this and save the time it would take to find, procure, and assemble the
hoses and regulators etc...  I'm sure I'm not alone.  I'm perfectly capable
of doing all this myself, but have not taken the time and probably won't
until an alternative minded loved one is faced with a serious condition.  I
would like to have the apparatus before that happens.

I realize this list is not for the commercial ventures of this nature, but
an announcement of this availability and request for private email inquiries
would seem to be appropriate.  Maybe Mike would have a more preferred way of
providing this service, but however it's done I would be interested in
paying someone to provide this.

Thanks,

Vince 

-Original Message-
From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

Tackling drug-resistant pneumonia with colloidal silver

The procedure outlined here will work on any lung pathogen including 
anthrax;  In fact, an M.D. in the USA has been using this type of procedure 
for 10 years and is proposing it for anthrax. Here it is, straight from the 
lab:

The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for 
some effective procedure for attacking the bilateral form of those 
bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the 
antibiotic protocols. We have evaluated colloidal silver and many methods 
of its employment. Only one method was ever rapidly effective in an 
"essentially terminal" evaluation. The methodology employed in these 
experiments included the following protocol: Using a very fine particle 
nebulizer, a 25 psi to 35 psi, regulated O2 supply as the gas drive and a 
colloidal silver mixture compounded as follows: Starting with 8 ounces of 
10 ppm colloidal silver (warmed to approx. 105 degrees F.) dissolve MSM in 
this solution to the point of saturation (until no more will go into 
solution); next add 20 per cent by volume of DMSO to the parent mixture.

The complete report:

http://philaero-wellness.com/content/view/160/


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CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

[Stuff]

Tackling drug-resistant pneumonia with colloidal silver

The procedure outlined here will work on any lung pathogen including 
anthrax;  In fact, an M.D. in the USA has been using this type of procedure 
for 10 years and is proposing it for anthrax. Here it is, straight from the 
lab:


The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for 
some effective procedure for attacking the bilateral form of those 
bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the 
antibiotic protocols. We have evaluated colloidal silver and many methods 
of its employment. Only one method was ever rapidly effective in an 
"essentially terminal" evaluation. The methodology employed in these 
experiments included the following protocol: Using a very fine particle 
nebulizer, a 25 psi to 35 psi, regulated O2 supply as the gas drive and a 
colloidal silver mixture compounded as follows: Starting with 8 ounces of 
10 ppm colloidal silver (warmed to approx. 105 degrees F.) dissolve MSM in 
this solution to the point of saturation (until no more will go into 
solution); next add 20 per cent by volume of DMSO to the parent mixture.


The complete report:

http://philaero-wellness.com/content/view/160/


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CS>CO2 and EIS

[Marshall Dudley]

All previous posts on the composition of EIS have ignored the CO2
factor.  I have explored this and have some interesting information.

Water at room temperature will equalize with the CO2 present in the
air.  Although air contains about 350 or so ppm of CO2, the water will
absorb .58 ppm of CO2 before equalizing with the air.  The math to
figure this out can be found at
http://www.chem.usu.edu/~sbialkow/Classes/3650/Carbonate/Carbonic%20Acid.html
and other sites list the concentration as about .5 ppm.

Pure water that has equalized with the CO2 in the air will have a pH of
5.65. I have found references that report that normal rain is about 5.7,
so this jives pretty well.

If you leave water in a glass, the surface will quickly equalize with
the air, but diffusion of the CO2 to below the surface is quite slow.
So if EIS is produced from water that has stabilized with the air and
not stirred, the amount of silver carbonate will be about 3.6 ppm.

However if the water is agitated so that the surface layer is
continually mixed with the rest of the volume, then as CO2 is consumed
by forming a carbonate, more will be absorbed from the air.  If this is
taken to the limit, then up to 32 ppm of silver carbonate (the
solubility limit) can be formed.

The unanswered question is just how fast CO2 will be absorbed from the
air.  I believe there is an easy way to tell with any particular setup.
First take distilled water and check the pH. If it is close to 7 then
great, if not, then heat it up to boiling to drive off the CO2.  Once
cooled (without stirring), check the pH and it should be around 7. Be
sure to heat in plastic in a microwave, or glass on the stove, any
metals will likely add trace contaminates that will affect the pH or act
as a buffer invalidating the results.

Now place the water into the device for making EIS and run it with NO
electrodes.  Sample the pH over time and record how fast it changes.
This will give the information as to how fast CO2 is absorbed from the
air with any particular stirring arrangement. Once we have that
information, it should be relatively easy to figure out the
concentration of silver carbonate formed by any device when making EIS.
Although simply leaving the electrodes, and not running current through
them may appear to be the same, any silver oxide on the electrodes can
dissolve and affect the pH.

Marshall





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Re: CS>My First Batch

[Raine]

Thank you for your insight, MA. I will definitely take this into 
consideration for my next batch. This is all a learning experience for me.


For those who stop brewing when the beard/fuzz appears, what ppm do you 
end up with?


Thanks,
Raine

marmar...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 4/20/2005 4:26:37 AM Central Standard Time, 
rainelov...@sbcglobal.net writes:


I had to clean the fuzzy beard off once during the 1 hour
brew-time (I was brewing 32 oz, shooting for 10 ppm. 

It isn't likely that one hour of brew time will produce 10 ppms in 32 
ozs. of DW with 27 volts of current.  More likely that you will need 
at least 4-5 hours of brew time.  In fact, it would likely take that 
much time to produce 10 ppms in _16_ ozs. of DW -- and you're using 
twice that amount.   FWIW   MA

Re: CS>Cataracts

[Raine]

Dear Richard,

I so appreciate your very kind reply. What I wasn't clear about in my 
post is that this is my "fur daughter". IOW, my dog. :-)


The compassion in your post really touched me.

Thanks again,
Raine

Richard Harris wrote:


Hi Raine,
 
Sorry to read of your daughter's eye problems. If you can't afford the 
proper eye care for her, please Get In Touch with Your Local Lions 
Club. Lions, of which I'm a proud member for over 50 years, is the 
largest Service Club in the world and our primary funcetion is Sight 
Conservation. Each year, we help needy individuals like your daughter. 
Please give us a chance. Read my Site and Blogspot and let me kbnow if 
I can help.
 
Sincerely,

__
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
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