Re: CS>What to do about a broken toe?
Blood Flesh & Cartilage formula by Dr. Christopher would be what I'd use. -Raine Linda Ellis wrote: Okay, this may be OT, but there are so many holistic types out here, I'm betting someone has some ideas! I'm looking for ideas to help my husband with what we are pretty sure is a broken toe. No point going to the ER with it - they'll give him a boot and send him home. I want to make him more comfortable, and try to get the swelling down (he hit his toe over 24 hours ago, so we're doing heat to promote healing). I've also had him pulsing with Bil's MP5K, and using footbaths with Epsom Salts and Apple Cider Vinegar and DMSO. Does anybody else out there have any ideas? We'll try it all Linda
CS>Re: CS >Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator
Same thing I use, put a 5k or 10k multi turn trimmer pot on it and you have a ajustable current control. --- On Sun 11/13, Robert Berger < bober...@swbell.net > wrote: From: Robert Berger [mailto: bober...@swbell.net] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:57:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: CS >Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator Hi SL48045, I did not use the LM337 I used the LM317 which is a three terminal adjustable regulator. The voltage drop across the resistor sets the current limit. A 100 ohm resistor will regulate at 12mA. "Ole Bob" ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS >Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??
Hi Dave. What amazes me is that they can still make those crates cheaper than sending them back. No wonder we have a trade deficit. You might want to look at the way they build houses in Brasil. They use brick,rebar and concrete. Now if you were to make you own bricks and mix your own concrete you would have a house, not in a earthquake area though. They even brick the inside walls. The inside walls are non supporting (similar to a office building with a false ceiling). After the brick they will put a concrete type of stucco on or tile it. Very easy to work with. Sam l. --- On Sun 11/13, Dan Nave < na...@comcast.net > wrote: From: Dan Nave [mailto: na...@comcast.net] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:46:37 -0600 Subject: CS >Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing?? You may want to fumigate the Chinese shipping crates before using to getrid of possible pests...Also, check out "papercrete" and "padobe", "rammed earth" and "cob".Lots of interesting ways to build a house, depending on where you wantto live, and some are very cheap but labor intensive.Check out:http://www.northcoast.com/~tms/cheap.htmlhttp://www.livinginpaper.com/index.htmhttp://axwoodfarm.com/house/index.php?inc=5How about this? (from the first link above)Travel-Trailer Homesteading Under $5,000 by Brian Kelling. UPDATED andreprinted 8/1999. Tired of paying rent? Need privacy away from nosyneighbors? This book will show how a modest financial investment canenable you to place a travel-trailer or other RV on a suitable piece ofland and make the necessary improvements for a comfortable home in whichto live! This book covers the cost break-down, tools needed, how toselect the land and travel-trailer or rv, and how to install a septicsystem, as well as water, power (including solar panels), heat andrefrigeration systems. 1995, 5x8, 80 pages, illustrated, indexed, softcover. #8006... $10.00... ORDER HEREDanSubject: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??From: siriu...@aol.comdate: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:32:21 ESTTo: silver-l...@eskimo.comode did I hear that you built your own house? Are you in the US?My husband and I are thinking of moving at the first of the year andrather than buying an existing house we are throwing around the idea ofbuilding one out of used/retired Chinese shipping crates.We need a pool because of his paralysis and I want to use ozone waterrather than chlorine.The people on this list are Oh! so wise! any ideas and words of wisdomfor solar panels vs. wind generators, water purifiers, well water andcisterns etc?We also toyed with the idea of buying a retired ATT underground facilityor NIKE site but they are hard to find and are often prone to floodingand government use restrictions. We may end up inheriting one. In thiscase we will build a shipping crate house on top. Any input on housebuildin is appreciated.Harper-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-l...@eskimo.comsilver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.htmlAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comot Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.htmlList maintainer: Mike Devour ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
Re: CS>Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator
Return Receipt Your Re: CS>Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator document: wasChin Seong LIM/IDA/SINGOV received by: at:11/14/2005 13:56:16 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator
How does one get to look at earlier digests? I lost a few! John - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: Re: CS>Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator Hi SL48045, I did not use the LM337 I used the LM317 which is a three terminal adjustable regulator. The voltage drop across the resistor sets the current limit. A 100 ohm resistor will regulate at 12mA. "Ole Bob"
Re: CS>Distilled water...
Dear Silver Listers I would like to know exactly what sort of danger anyone could possibly get into by making CS with ordinary water and using that? I have been making CS with 9vdc from a battery and with current control to 1mA for many years . I use whatever the drinking water is out of the tap. 3 to 5 minutes per 8oz glassful. It works. Cures upset tummies in minutes. Stops a cold in its tracks if taken soon enough. Stops BO for many hours. Soothes insect bites and thorn scratches. Disinfects wounds. Great for flushing mould and dirt from sinuses etc etc. I really would like to know the specific dangers that might be practically applicable. Tony Moody South Africa. On 12 Nov 2005 at 0:45, M. G. Devour wrote about : Subject : CS>Distilled water... > On another topic: > > The group consensus has long recommended only pure distilled water for > making CS. This is for safety sake and so you can be sure of what you > are making. > > If you add salt, baking soda, or other chemicals, or use tap or other > "normal" water with dissolved minerals in it, you *will* make silver > compounds of various sorts until the contaminants or additives are used > up. In fact, you will likely make nothing *but* those silver compounds, > as it's common for the impurities to be present in far greater > concentration than what you're trying to achieve of silver. > > In addition, if you're using such impure water with a simple generator > with no way to limit the current, you will indeed make large particles > that *may* not be as safe or effective in the long run, plus the > process will "run away" very quickly. You will have to stop your > process within a few minutes at most, or else risk making hazardous > silver "mud" that is of such strength that it has been known to cause > argyria in people who have abused it. > > I agree with Terry that virtually any CS is "good" CS, in that it's > better than having nothing. Certainly in an emergency or survival > situation or less developed conditions, it's acceptable to use whatever > can be found that is reasonably safe, provided you don't over-cook it > and make the aforementioned unsafe silver "mud." > > Also, using silver electrolysis to sterilize water makes perfect sense, > but please do not consider it the same as making CS! > > If you are in a more typical situation where distilled water is > available, please use it. We can help you learn how. > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@eskimo.com] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ode? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??
I had the same vision, and looked into alternative building materials--Rastra block (cement that is poured into foam molds, with rebar inside--great to cut heating and cooling costs), hay bale house (cheap, with the feel of adobe, but beware of rats and mold if not done right), underground house (do this right or you'll have problems similar to those in a basement). I ended up doing standard but beefed up construction--4 X 6 wood, with plywood covering inside and out, roof tiles nailed down, roof bolted to walls, walls bolted to foundation--the same requirements as for hospitals and schools. We have our own well, our own solar power (partial only, as it is still expensive, even with a government-supported rebate). The hay bale idea sounded great, but I live in earthquake country. Rastra was too expensive, and too difficult to make changes in electrical wiring once it is up. With R-19 insulation in the 4 X 6 walls, though, we rarely use air conditioning or heating (except for wood burning and pellet stoves). Also, dual pane window glass, with gas inside, cuts down on heating and air conditioning costs, as do appropriate window coverings. Don't underestimate the difficulty of getting anything unusual OK'd by the planning department, unless you are planning to build without a permit. Also, if you do anything out of the ordinary, you may have to do it yourself, as it is hard to find someone to do anything but the usual standard stuff. Jill P.S. It turned out WONDERFULLY, but what an undertaking! I would only have energy for this sort of effort once in a lifetime, though.
CS>Speaking to Water
Hello: Has anyone tried speaking to the distilled water prior to making Colloidal Silver with it? By speaking to it, I mean programming it with the information from your voice. i.e. telling it to have the pH of say 8.5 and a low surface tension say 50 or below for better absorption. Ian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>What to do about a broken toe?
1. Take the herb combination Comfrey & Fenugreek from Newbody Products. (310) 537-4793 (Southern California, USA). It is excellent for healing physical injuries. Call them in the morning on a weekday, tell them it is an emergency, and you will have the herbs from UPS the next day. My daughter had a bad skiing accident and wanted to go to the Emergency Room. I gave her 18 Comfrey & Fenugreek capsules, and told her we would take her to the Emergency Room the next morning as it was late and a long distance home from the ski slopes. The next day she walked normally, said she felt OK, and went shopping! You won't overdo it if you take 18/day. These herbs are best taken on an empty stomach. 2. Take two tablespoons ground raw black sesame seeds per day to supply bioavailable calcium for healing. 3. Take one-half capsule myrrh to reduce inflammation (only this much is needed). 4. Tape or wrap the toe to the rest of the foot, and wear protective shoes so the break has a chance to heal without getting jarred or rebroken. 5. Do EFT. You can download the quick-start information (with the picture of the cake) from _www.emofree.com_ (http://www.emofree.com) . In addition to what the EFT manual says, I would add the following: One thing I find that helps heal tremendously is to discover and clear the negative emotion that is stored in the physical problem. Breathe with your mouth open long enough (a few minutes, at most) to answer the question, "What negative feeling am I storing in my toe?" Take the first thought on your mind, and don't pay attention to the fears that this will not work; it does. When you get the negative feeling, EFT it away. If there is pain, swelling, etc., left, repeat the process, asking, "What negative feeling is still remaining in my toe? Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Jill
CS>Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??
You may want to fumigate the Chinese shipping crates before using to get rid of possible pests... Also, check out "papercrete" and "padobe", "rammed earth" and "cob". Lots of interesting ways to build a house, depending on where you want to live, and some are very cheap but labor intensive. Check out: http://www.northcoast.com/~tms/cheap.html http://www.livinginpaper.com/index.htm http://axwoodfarm.com/house/index.php?inc=5 How about this? (from the first link above) Travel-Trailer Homesteading Under $5,000 by Brian Kelling. UPDATED and reprinted 8/1999. Tired of paying rent? Need privacy away from nosy neighbors? This book will show how a modest financial investment can enable you to place a travel-trailer or other RV on a suitable piece of land and make the necessary improvements for a comfortable home in which to live! This book covers the cost break-down, tools needed, how to select the land and travel-trailer or rv, and how to install a septic system, as well as water, power (including solar panels), heat and refrigeration systems. 1995, 5x8, 80 pages, illustrated, indexed, soft cover. #8006... $10.00... ORDER HERE Dan Subject: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing?? From: siriu...@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:32:21 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Ode did I hear that you built your own house? Are you in the US? My husband and I are thinking of moving at the first of the year and rather than buying an existing house we are throwing around the idea of building one out of used/retired Chinese shipping crates. We need a pool because of his paralysis and I want to use ozone water rather than chlorine. The people on this list are Oh! so wise! any ideas and words of wisdom for solar panels vs. wind generators, water purifiers, well water and cisterns etc? We also toyed with the idea of buying a retired ATT underground facility or NIKE site but they are hard to find and are often prone to flooding and government use restrictions. We may end up inheriting one. In this case we will build a shipping crate house on top. Any input on house buildin is appreciated. Harper -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS >Square or round wires?
Hi V. The problem with that is you want more + electrode than -. Having the bowl - it would be the opposite, thats the way I understood it from Ole Bob. --- On Sun 11/13, V < vzo...@yahoo.com > wrote: From: V [mailto: vzo...@yahoo.com] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:17:10 -0800 Subject: Re: CS >Square or round wires? I often thought there is no reason you cant use a stainless steel bowl or jar and have the bowl be the negative terminal and then you only need one silver electrode in the water. since the silver only comes off the positive terminal and the bowl has a negative charge it should not loose any metal to the water. having two silver electrodes and the silver only coming off one electrode seems like the negative silver electrode has no use except to conduct currentTake care, V> I always felt that someone using a wide flat anode should use two > cathodes - one on each side of the flat anode.> DanSubject:Re: CS>>Square or round wires?> From:Ode Coyote > Date:Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:02:59 -0500> To:silver-list@eskimo.com> Where ion discharge is concerned, the area presented does not discharge > ions in direct proportion to the area presented.> On wide flat electrodes, the center does very little while the edges > discharge the greater proportion of the ions. It's visibly obvious that > there's a big difference while observing how electrodes wear away.> The back sides do virtually no ion discharging.> Corners and edges disappear first, corners faster than edges, till > finally you have a "U" that looks much like "V" with a rounded tip > instead of a rectangle.> The newer electroplating electrodes are made in a "D" shape with the > rounded side being the side not facing. This shortens the pathways from > the back, eliminates the secondary backside edge that a block has and > evens out the actual discharge area some.> Round shapes have no backsides, ineffective side facing flat centers, > corners or edges, except for the end which will sharpen with the > disproportionate discharge occurring there.> Distance counts.> The front of a round will go away a 'little' faster, [Which is why > modern electrodes aren't 'round cylinders'] but swapping their positions > between batches makes the former back the front and a piece of wire > doesn't have the front/back distance differences that a 20 pound > cylinder of copper has and the size/distance relationships aren't > linear. ie, the smaller the diameter, the less the effect.[but also less > surface area]> Bending the very tips away from each other a bit will prevent tip > erosion to a great degree..or..don't put the ends in the water in the > first place.> A round wire has ..almost.. twice the 'effective' discharge area than a > flat rectangular electrode with the same surface area.> A square wire run with flats parallel will become a rounded wire...more > "D" shaped, actually, with the rounded part facing as the leading edges > do most of the work.> Ode [ex electroplater]The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-l...@eskimo.comsilver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.htmlAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comot Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.htmlList maintainer: Mike Devour ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
Re: CS>What to do about a broken toe?
I would use one of V's Godzilla units on it. That's how I healed broken my arm when is would not heal. Teri ** Okay, this may be OT, but there are so many holistic types out here, I'm betting someone has some ideas! I'm looking for ideas to help my husband with what we are pretty sure is a broken toe. No point going to the ER with it - they'll give him a boot and send him home. I want to make him more comfortable, and try to get the swelling down (he hit his toe over 24 hours ago, so we're doing heat to promote healing). I've also had him pulsing with Bil's MP5K, and using footbaths with Epsom Salts and Apple Cider Vinegar and DMSO. Does anybody else out there have any ideas? We'll try it all Linda No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005
Re: CS>What to do about a broken toe?
I use EFT for all kinds of pain and inflamation/swelling. I had a kid come in (I teach EFT ) with a fractured foot in a cast having lots of pain the day after a bike accident. Within 10 minutes his pain level came down from a seven to a zero. Try EFT. It's free to learn at emofree.com. Steve
CS>Re: CS >Square or round wires?
Hi Dan. If your referring to the - electrode as to the anode, thats what Ive been doing with good results. Ole Bob shared that info with me awhile back and Ive been experimenting with this as time provides. This might be my next brewing set up as Im now using 1 oz silver bars as my electrodes. Sam --- On Sun 11/13, Dan Nave < na...@comcast.net > wrote: From: Dan Nave [mailto: na...@comcast.net] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:52:15 -0600 Subject: Re: CS >Square or round wires? I always felt that someone using a wide flat anode should use two cathodes - one on each side of the flat anode.DanSubject:Re: CS>Square or round wires?From:Ode Coyote Date:Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:02:59 -0500To:silver-l...@eskimo.comwhere ion discharge is concerned, the area presented does not discharge ions in direct proportion to the area presented.On wide flat electrodes, the center does very little while the edges discharge the greater proportion of the ions. It's visibly obvious that there's a big difference while observing how electrodes wear away.The back sides do virtually no ion discharging.Corners and edges disappear first, corners faster than edges, till finally you have a "U" that looks much like "V" with a rounded tip instead of a rectangle.The newer electroplating electrodes are made in a "D" shape with the rounded side being the side not facing. This shortens the pathways from the back, eliminates the secondary backside edge that a block has and evens out the actual discharge area some.Round shapes have no backsides, ineffective side facing flat centers, corners or edges, except for the end which will sharpen with the disproportionate discharge occurring there.Distance counts.The front of a round will go away a 'little' faster, [Which is why modern electrodes aren't 'round cylinders'] but swapping their positions between batches makes the former back the front and a piece of wire doesn't have the front/back distance differences that a 20 pound cylinder of copper has and the size/distance relationships aren't linear. ie, the smaller the diameter, the less the effect.[but also less surface area]Bending the very tips away from each other a bit will prevent tip erosion to a great degree..or..don't put the ends in the water in the first place.A round wire has ..almost.. twice the 'effective' discharge area than a flat rectangular electrode with the same surface area.A square wire run with flats parallel will become a rounded wire...more "D" shaped, actually, with the rounded part facing as the leading edges do most of the work.Ode [ex electroplater]-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-l...@eskimo.comsilver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.htmlAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comot Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.htmlList maintainer: Mike Devour ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
CS>What to do about a broken toe?
Hi, I would put topical DMSO after cleaning the toe as well as possible. The sooner after an accident, the better it helps. Jean ** > Okay, this may be OT, but there are so many holistic types out here, I'm > betting someone has some ideas! > > I'm looking for ideas to help my husband with what we are pretty sure is a > broken toe. No point going to the ER with it - they'll give him a boot and > send him home. > > I want to make him more comfortable, and try to get the swelling down (he hit > his toe over 24 hours ago, so we're doing heat to promote healing). > > I've also had him pulsing with Bil's MP5K, and using footbaths with Epsom > Salts and Apple Cider Vinegar and DMSO. > > Does anybody else out there have any ideas? We'll try it all > Linda
Re: CS>Square or round wires?
I often thought there is no reason you cant use a stainless steel bowl or jar and have the bowl be the negative terminal and then you only need one silver electrode in the water. since the silver only comes off the positive terminal and the bowl has a negative charge it should not loose any metal to the water. having two silver electrodes and the silver only coming off one electrode seems like the negative silver electrode has no use except to conduct current Take care, V > I always felt that someone using a wide flat anode should use two > cathodes - one on each side of the flat anode. > Dan Subject:Re: CS>>Square or round wires? > From:Ode Coyote > Date:Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:02:59 -0500 > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > Where ion discharge is concerned, the area presented does not discharge > ions in direct proportion to the area presented. > On wide flat electrodes, the center does very little while the edges > discharge the greater proportion of the ions. It's visibly obvious that > there's a big difference while observing how electrodes wear away. > The back sides do virtually no ion discharging. > Corners and edges disappear first, corners faster than edges, till > finally you have a "U" that looks much like "V" with a rounded tip > instead of a rectangle. > The newer electroplating electrodes are made in a "D" shape with the > rounded side being the side not facing. This shortens the pathways from > the back, eliminates the secondary backside edge that a block has and > evens out the actual discharge area some. > Round shapes have no backsides, ineffective side facing flat centers, > corners or edges, except for the end which will sharpen with the > disproportionate discharge occurring there. > Distance counts. > The front of a round will go away a 'little' faster, [Which is why > modern electrodes aren't 'round cylinders'] but swapping their positions > between batches makes the former back the front and a piece of wire > doesn't have the front/back distance differences that a 20 pound > cylinder of copper has and the size/distance relationships aren't > linear. ie, the smaller the diameter, the less the effect.[but also less > surface area] > Bending the very tips away from each other a bit will prevent tip > erosion to a great degree..or..don't put the ends in the water in the > first place. > A round wire has ..almost.. twice the 'effective' discharge area than a > flat rectangular electrode with the same surface area. > A square wire run with flats parallel will become a rounded wire...more > "D" shaped, actually, with the rounded part facing as the leading edges > do most of the work. > Ode [ex electroplater] -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Square or round wires?
I always felt that someone using a wide flat anode should use two cathodes - one on each side of the flat anode. Dan Subject:Re: CS>Square or round wires? From:Ode Coyote Date:Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:02:59 -0500 To:silver-list@eskimo.com Where ion discharge is concerned, the area presented does not discharge ions in direct proportion to the area presented. On wide flat electrodes, the center does very little while the edges discharge the greater proportion of the ions. It's visibly obvious that there's a big difference while observing how electrodes wear away. The back sides do virtually no ion discharging. Corners and edges disappear first, corners faster than edges, till finally you have a "U" that looks much like "V" with a rounded tip instead of a rectangle. The newer electroplating electrodes are made in a "D" shape with the rounded side being the side not facing. This shortens the pathways from the back, eliminates the secondary backside edge that a block has and evens out the actual discharge area some. Round shapes have no backsides, ineffective side facing flat centers, corners or edges, except for the end which will sharpen with the disproportionate discharge occurring there. Distance counts. The front of a round will go away a 'little' faster, [Which is why modern electrodes aren't 'round cylinders'] but swapping their positions between batches makes the former back the front and a piece of wire doesn't have the front/back distance differences that a 20 pound cylinder of copper has and the size/distance relationships aren't linear. ie, the smaller the diameter, the less the effect.[but also less surface area] Bending the very tips away from each other a bit will prevent tip erosion to a great degree..or..don't put the ends in the water in the first place. A round wire has ..almost.. twice the 'effective' discharge area than a flat rectangular electrode with the same surface area. A square wire run with flats parallel will become a rounded wire...more "D" shaped, actually, with the rounded part facing as the leading edges do most of the work. Ode [ex electroplater] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>What to do about a broken toe?
Okay, this may be OT, but there are so many holistic types out here, I'm betting someone has some ideas! I'm looking for ideas to help my husband with what we are pretty sure is a broken toe. No point going to the ER with it - they'll give him a boot and send him home. I want to make him more comfortable, and try to get the swelling down (he hit his toe over 24 hours ago, so we're doing heat to promote healing). I've also had him pulsing with Bil's MP5K, and using footbaths with Epsom Salts and Apple Cider Vinegar and DMSO. Does anybody else out there have any ideas? We'll try it all Linda
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Re: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings
Could you have one or more abscessed teeth? My husband had draining bumps on his head when he had a very, very bad abscessed tooth. Strangely the tooth didn't really cause pain until this had been going on a really long time. He had a lot of ear infections due to allergies, too. But his allergies were not only to milk, but to nightshade veg, peppers, potatoes, tomatoes. sol Connie Howard wrote: Hi Paula...I have a air purifer and do not eat any bread products and gave up milk 20 years ago. The reason I was thinking of dental is that there are time that it feel like my teeth are draining a metallic substance ... it used to be really bad almost a daily thing. I never get sick but I do continuously have the ear problem which then turns into all the other symptoms. I have also noticed that I get a lot of bumps that drain on my head used to get one in the back of my neck which felt like water slushing.But appreciate your input. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>silver-digest Digest V2005 #720
unsubscribe - Original Message - From: To: <> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #720 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>ear problems to connie
thanks... I received the same response from my doctor or told me to go home and use ear drops. I wish they could feel the pain I go through each time I have an attack. I'm seeing the dentist on a monthly basis not sure if he would catch an infection under the tooth or not. It has taken over a year to get treatment on an area that I've been complaining about pain with. But I will try and see if he will listen. With the comments from the list regarding dental and the different problems they suffered I'm conveniced that I need to get these fillings replaced. This will be on my list for next year if I can swing it. It's hard to go from free dental to coming up with the cash. I'm also wondering if the filling may have contributed to depression... if I remeber correctly my mood swings began close to the time I was having dental work around 12. After I have the old filling remove I'll trying to keep a journel and track it. connie On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:17:54 -0800 (PST) Betsy Coffey writes: > I can relate to what you are saying. When I was a > young adult, I had a bunch of work done on the bottom > of one area of my mouth. From that time on, I started > having ear aches. I used to constantly think I had an > infection and I would go to the doctor and they would > say my ears looked fine. No one ever suggested that it > might be my teeth. Putting crowns on the teeth made it > worse because when the root is basically diseased, a > crown only makes the pressue underneath worse. It > might help to be checked for a low grade bacterial > infection underneath the tooth. > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>Garcinia Mangostana
Hi Matthew. Two people tried to get me on Mangosteen Juice and gave me bottles to try. I'm not a big fan of MLMs (in fact I've phased out one I was involved in) -- but I must say, the juice did feel really good. I was giving a seminar at the time and that juice kept me going until I could eat lunch. Then someone else sent me a bottle of Gobi Berry juice, also obtainable through MLM. I liked this even better than the Mangosteen, although they were very close in "feel" to me. In fact, I liked the Gobi Berry juice so much I didn't finish it, but am "saving" it for special occasions. I chose not to get involved with it as a commercial enterprise, but if you email me privately I can give you the number of the person who sent it to me and you can contact him yourself. Yet another antioxidant drink is the RioVida from 4Life. It contains the Acai berry plus blueberry plus other antioxidant fruits, and liquid Transfer Factor (apparently not an easy feat to make into a liquid). The Transfer Factor confers extra immune-boosting properties. Interestingly, I didn't feel that great from the RioVida, even though every other person I know who's tried it raves about it. But since I'm in the MLM system of the company that sells it, I buy the RioVida for my partner who loves it. The thing to remember with these drinks is that they have a different function than EIS. Antioxidant fruits cannot be compared to a silver solution. They are complementary, but not at all the same. My feeling is that you probably can't go too wrong with any of these. I think that individual resonance has a lot to do with which drink a person will prefer. Of course, there's also the company. Some products might be good but I don't like dealing with the company, so I pass on it. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness - Original Message - From: Matthew McCann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: CS>Garcinia Mangostana Recently an acquaintance has promoted a medicinal fruit named Garcinia Mangostana, or mangosteen. Apparently it is very rich in xanthones, antioxidant phenols with a broad spectrum of health benefits. Some duplicate the benefits of CS/EIS but others are claimed that go possibly beyond those of CS/EIS. Examples would be action against parasites, malaria, dementia, hypertension, diabetes, GERD, cataracts, arthritis, cancer and high LDL levels. [See brochures at www.nwstools.com.] Garcinia Mangostana is sold by MLM marketing at prices far above the cost of home-made CS/EIS. Does anybody have any experience with Garcinia Mangostana, enough to say whether it is worth the relatively steep price? TIA. Matthew
CS>ear problems to connie
I can relate to what you are saying. When I was a young adult, I had a bunch of work done on the bottom of one area of my mouth. From that time on, I started having ear aches. I used to constantly think I had an infection and I would go to the doctor and they would say my ears looked fine. No one ever suggested that it might be my teeth. Putting crowns on the teeth made it worse because when the root is basically diseased, a crown only makes the pressue underneath worse. It might help to be checked for a low grade bacterial infection underneath the tooth. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator
Hi SL48045, I did not use the LM337 I used the LM317 which is a three terminal adjustable regulator. The voltage drop across the resistor sets the current limit. A 100 ohm resistor will regulate at 12mA. "Ole Bob"
Re: CS>Pool purifier
When we had our pool we changed from chlorine to bacquasil. does the name sound familiar?? It is a silver compound that is used for washing the hands of surgeons befroe operating. It worked great. "Ole Bob"
Re: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings
That is interesting I have gold caps on my right side along with old type fillings and that has always been the side where I feel the metallic draining. connie On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:56:20 -0800 V writes: > > > If you have two differnt types of metal in your mouth this is most > likely happennig for sure. two diffrent types of metal will form a > weak battery and then electrolysis will be set up and the one metal > will slowly start to dissolve. this can speed up or slow down > depending on the contents of your mouth and saliva. > > > > > Take care, > V > > > > Hi Paula...I have a air purifer and do not eat any bread > products and > > gave up milk 20 years ago. The reason I was thinking of dental is > that > > there are time that it feel like my teeth are draining a metallic > > substance ... it used to be really bad almost a daily thing. I > never > > get sick but I do continuously have the ear problem which then > turns into > > all the other symptoms. I have also noticed that I get a lot of > bumps > > that drain on my head used to get one in the back of my neck > which > > felt like water slushing.But appreciate your input. > > > thanks > > > connie > > > On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:43:54 -0500 "Paula Perry" > > > writes: > > Connie, > > I am wondering if these ear infections and your other problems > don't stem > > from allergies. That is what it sounds like to me. Not to say that > the > > dental doesn't play a role in weakening the system and giving it > a > > greater toxic load to begin with. I would invest in a good air > purifer if > > you haven't already. It could be you are allergic to milk > products, wheat > > etc. > > Paula > > - Original Message - > > From: Connie Howard > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:33 AM > Subject: CS>>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings > > > > Has anyone experienced this problem? Since I was about 12 and > having had > > tons of dental filling; I get ear infection routinely. At their > worse > > they feel like nails being pounded into my brain. After a day the > I > > began to get what I call the acid burn from my ear down my > throat it > > feel like acid being poured on raw skin the back of my throat > closes > > up to a very small opening when this began this time I > immediately > > drenched my ears with Colloidal Silver (20ppm) my ears did not > get worse > > my my throat really did I was gargling colloidal silver and > drinking > > V8 juice with red pepper powder... also eating medium heat > natural > > salsa anything that would give me some relief. after the 2nd > day I > > broke down and took a 500mg amoxicillan pill and at bed time a > codeine > > pill the pain from my throat was getting unbearable. Over > the last > > year I have been having dental work completed... gold crowns and > filling > > we have almost completed one side of my mouth... I want to have > all the > > old filing replaced but all my dental treatment is free and with > the cost > > of the work I have to settle. I'm hoping next year to be able to > setup > > something in Mexico (info the list provided). Just was curious if > anyone > > else has had similar experience. > > > thanks > > > connie > > > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:05:18 -0800 (PST) Bill Keen > > writes: > > Well Ruth, > > > With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would > think. > > The mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do > not use > > them anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed > has had > > a marked improvement in their overall health and usually a > definite > > memory gain. > > > On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits. > Yes, you > > get to take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all > > out-of-whack. But, the gums will stay sore for quite some time, > in most > > cases, until the 'contact points' get callused. And then there is > the > > hassle of having to do without while they are being > repaired/replaced. > > > And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place. Have you > ever > > tried it? > > > I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or > silver > > crowns to replace amalgam fillings. > > > Bill Keen > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: > 11/11/05 > > -- > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List ma
CS>Garcinia Mangostana
Recently an acquaintance has promoted a medicinal fruit named Garcinia Mangostana, or mangosteen. Apparently it is very rich in xanthones, antioxidant phenols with a broad spectrum of health benefits. Some duplicate the benefits of CS/EIS but others are claimed that go possibly beyond those of CS/EIS. Examples would be action against parasites, malaria, dementia, hypertension, diabetes, GERD, cataracts, arthritis, cancer and high LDL levels. [See brochures at www.nwstools.com.] Garcinia Mangostana is sold by MLM marketing at prices far above the cost of home-made CS/EIS. Does anybody have any experience with Garcinia Mangostana, enough to say whether it is worth the relatively steep price? TIA. Matthew
Re: CS>CS V diets
thanks for the links to the diets. These are aspects I never knew before. Funny you should send one that mentions the Masai. As a little girl LOOONG ago I unwillingly spent a summer in Nigeria. Nigeria was plunged into civil war. I lived every moment in my Campfire uniform because I had missed summer camp over this war. When my father's work was done he took us all on camera safari to east Africa. I proudly wore my Campfire girl uniform as we visited each tribe saluting them with a WOHELO! And then we entered a Masai village on our way to visit an old drinking buddy of my dad's. I saw a man in a lion's mane head dress with his wives and wives' herd of cows. My father's friend explained that he was a MAN because he had killed a lion, I decided from that moment that when I grew up I would kill a lion and become a man. Well I never did but I did become an anthropologist. This is fascinating. Thanks again. Harper
Re: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings
If you have two differnt types of metal in your mouth this is most likely happennig for sure. two diffrent types of metal will form a weak battery and then electrolysis will be set up and the one metal will slowly start to dissolve. this can speed up or slow down depending on the contents of your mouth and saliva. Take care, V > Hi Paula...I have a air purifer and do not eat any bread products and > gave up milk 20 years ago. The reason I was thinking of dental is that > there are time that it feel like my teeth are draining a metallic > substance ... it used to be really bad almost a daily thing. I never > get sick but I do continuously have the ear problem which then turns into > all the other symptoms. I have also noticed that I get a lot of bumps > that drain on my head used to get one in the back of my neck which > felt like water slushing.But appreciate your input. > thanks > connie > On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:43:54 -0500 "Paula Perry" > writes: > Connie, > I am wondering if these ear infections and your other problems don't stem > from allergies. That is what it sounds like to me. Not to say that the > dental doesn't play a role in weakening the system and giving it a > greater toxic load to begin with. I would invest in a good air purifer if > you haven't already. It could be you are allergic to milk products, wheat > etc. > Paula > - Original Message - > From: Connie Howard > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: CS>>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings > Has anyone experienced this problem? Since I was about 12 and having had > tons of dental filling; I get ear infection routinely. At their worse > they feel like nails being pounded into my brain. After a day the I > began to get what I call the acid burn from my ear down my throat it > feel like acid being poured on raw skin the back of my throat closes > up to a very small opening when this began this time I immediately > drenched my ears with Colloidal Silver (20ppm) my ears did not get worse > my my throat really did I was gargling colloidal silver and drinking > V8 juice with red pepper powder... also eating medium heat natural > salsa anything that would give me some relief. after the 2nd day I > broke down and took a 500mg amoxicillan pill and at bed time a codeine > pill the pain from my throat was getting unbearable. Over the last > year I have been having dental work completed... gold crowns and filling > we have almost completed one side of my mouth... I want to have all the > old filing replaced but all my dental treatment is free and with the cost > of the work I have to settle. I'm hoping next year to be able to setup > something in Mexico (info the list provided). Just was curious if anyone > else has had similar experience. > thanks > connie > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:05:18 -0800 (PST) Bill Keen > writes: > Well Ruth, > With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would think. > The mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do not use > them anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed has had > a marked improvement in their overall health and usually a definite > memory gain. > On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits. Yes, you > get to take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all > out-of-whack. But, the gums will stay sore for quite some time, in most > cases, until the 'contact points' get callused. And then there is the > hassle of having to do without while they are being repaired/replaced. > And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place. Have you ever > tried it? > I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or silver > crowns to replace amalgam fillings. > Bill Keen > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05 -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings
Hi Paula...I have a air purifer and do not eat any bread products and gave up milk 20 years ago. The reason I was thinking of dental is that there are time that it feel like my teeth are draining a metallic substance ... it used to be really bad almost a daily thing. I never get sick but I do continuously have the ear problem which then turns into all the other symptoms. I have also noticed that I get a lot of bumps that drain on my head used to get one in the back of my neck which felt like water slushing.But appreciate your input. thanks connie On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:43:54 -0500 "Paula Perry" writes: Connie, I am wondering if these ear infections and your other problems don't stem from allergies. That is what it sounds like to me. Not to say that the dental doesn't play a role in weakening the system and giving it a greater toxic load to begin with. I would invest in a good air purifer if you haven't already. It could be you are allergic to milk products, wheat etc. Paula - Original Message - From: Connie Howard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings Has anyone experienced this problem? Since I was about 12 and having had tons of dental filling; I get ear infection routinely. At their worse they feel like nails being pounded into my brain. After a day the I began to get what I call the acid burn from my ear down my throat it feel like acid being poured on raw skin the back of my throat closes up to a very small opening when this began this time I immediately drenched my ears with Colloidal Silver (20ppm) my ears did not get worse my my throat really did I was gargling colloidal silver and drinking V8 juice with red pepper powder... also eating medium heat natural salsa anything that would give me some relief. after the 2nd day I broke down and took a 500mg amoxicillan pill and at bed time a codeine pill the pain from my throat was getting unbearable. Over the last year I have been having dental work completed... gold crowns and filling we have almost completed one side of my mouth... I want to have all the old filing replaced but all my dental treatment is free and with the cost of the work I have to settle. I'm hoping next year to be able to setup something in Mexico (info the list provided). Just was curious if anyone else has had similar experience. thanks connie On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:05:18 -0800 (PST) Bill Keen writes: Well Ruth, With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would think. The mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do not use them anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed has had a marked improvement in their overall health and usually a definite memory gain. On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits. Yes, you get to take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all out-of-whack. But, the gums will stay sore for quite some time, in most cases, until the 'contact points' get callused. And then there is the hassle of having to do without while they are being repaired/replaced. And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place. Have you ever tried it? I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or silver crowns to replace amalgam fillings. Bill Keen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05
Re: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings
Connie, I am wondering if these ear infections and your other problems don't stem from allergies. That is what it sounds like to me. Not to say that the dental doesn't play a role in weakening the system and giving it a greater toxic load to begin with. I would invest in a good air purifer if you haven't already. It could be you are allergic to milk products, wheat etc. Paula - Original Message - From: Connie Howard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings Has anyone experienced this problem? Since I was about 12 and having had tons of dental filling; I get ear infection routinely. At their worse they feel like nails being pounded into my brain. After a day the I began to get what I call the acid burn from my ear down my throat it feel like acid being poured on raw skin the back of my throat closes up to a very small opening when this began this time I immediately drenched my ears with Colloidal Silver (20ppm) my ears did not get worse my my throat really did I was gargling colloidal silver and drinking V8 juice with red pepper powder... also eating medium heat natural salsa anything that would give me some relief. after the 2nd day I broke down and took a 500mg amoxicillan pill and at bed time a codeine pill the pain from my throat was getting unbearable. Over the last year I have been having dental work completed... gold crowns and filling we have almost completed one side of my mouth... I want to have all the old filing replaced but all my dental treatment is free and with the cost of the work I have to settle. I'm hoping next year to be able to setup something in Mexico (info the list provided). Just was curious if anyone else has had similar experience. thanks connie On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:05:18 -0800 (PST) Bill Keen writes: Well Ruth, With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would think. The mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do not use them anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed has had a marked improvement in their overall health and usually a definite memory gain. On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits. Yes, you get to take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all out-of-whack. But, the gums will stay sore for quite some time, in most cases, until the 'contact points' get callused. And then there is the hassle of having to do without while they are being repaired/replaced. And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place. Have you ever tried it? I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or silver crowns to replace amalgam fillings. Bill Keen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05
CS>Pool purifier
Harper said, >We need a pool because of his paralysis and I want to use ozone water rather than chlorine.< Take a look at: http://www.algaebar.com/ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings
Look into using ear candles to clean them out & help with infection. - Original Message - From: Connie Howard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings Has anyone experienced this problem? Since I was about 12 and having had tons of dental filling; I get ear infection routinely. At their worse they feel like nails being pounded into my brain. After a day the I began to get what I call the acid burn from my ear down my throat it feel like acid being poured on raw skin the back of my throat closes up to a very small opening when this began this time I immediately drenched my ears with Colloidal Silver (20ppm) my ears did not get worse my my throat really did I was gargling colloidal silver and drinking V8 juice with red pepper powder... also eating medium heat natural salsa anything that would give me some relief. after the 2nd day I broke down and took a 500mg amoxicillan pill and at bed time a codeine pill the pain from my throat was getting unbearable. Over the last year I have been having dental work completed... gold crowns and filling we have almost completed one side of my mouth... I want to have all the old filing replaced but all my dental treatment is free and with the cost of the work I have to settle. I'm hoping next year to be able to setup something in Mexico (info the list provided). Just was curious if anyone else has had similar experience. thanks connie On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:05:18 -0800 (PST) Bill Keen writes: Well Ruth, With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would think. The mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do not use them anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed has had a marked improvement in their overall health and usually a definite memory gain. On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits. Yes, you get to take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all out-of-whack. But, the gums will stay sore for quite some time, in most cases, until the 'contact points' get callused. And then there is the hassle of having to do without while they are being repaired/replaced. And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place. Have you ever tried it? I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or silver crowns to replace amalgam fillings. Bill Keen
CS>Ode? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??
Ode did I hear that you built your own house? Are you in the US? My husband and I are thinking of moving at the first of the year and rather than buying an existing house we are throwing around the idea of building one out of used/retired Chinese shipping crates. We need a pool because of his paralysis and I want to use ozone water rather than chlorine. The people on this list are Oh! so wise! any ideas and words of wisdom for solar panels vs. wind generators, water purifiers, well water and cisterns etc? We also toyed with the idea of buying a retired ATT underground facility or NIKE site but they are hard to find and are often prone to flooding and government use restrictions. We may end up inheriting one. In this case we will build a shipping crate house on top. Any input on house buildin is appreciated. Harper
CS>Ear Infections and amalgam fillings
Has anyone experienced this problem? Since I was about 12 and having had tons of dental filling; I get ear infection routinely. At their worse they feel like nails being pounded into my brain. After a day the I began to get what I call the acid burn from my ear down my throat it feel like acid being poured on raw skin the back of my throat closes up to a very small opening when this began this time I immediately drenched my ears with Colloidal Silver (20ppm) my ears did not get worse my my throat really did I was gargling colloidal silver and drinking V8 juice with red pepper powder... also eating medium heat natural salsa anything that would give me some relief. after the 2nd day I broke down and took a 500mg amoxicillan pill and at bed time a codeine pill the pain from my throat was getting unbearable. Over the last year I have been having dental work completed... gold crowns and filling we have almost completed one side of my mouth... I want to have all the old filing replaced but all my dental treatment is free and with the cost of the work I have to settle. I'm hoping next year to be able to setup something in Mexico (info the list provided). Just was curious if anyone else has had similar experience. thanks connie On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:05:18 -0800 (PST) Bill Keen writes: Well Ruth, With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would think. The mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do not use them anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed has had a marked improvement in their overall health and usually a definite memory gain. On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits. Yes, you get to take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all out-of-whack. But, the gums will stay sore for quite some time, in most cases, until the 'contact points' get callused. And then there is the hassle of having to do without while they are being repaired/replaced. And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place. Have you ever tried it? I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or silver crowns to replace amalgam fillings. Bill Keen
CS>WOOPS!! Off Topic List instructions...
Harper, everyone, I made a mistake in my last message about the Off Topic List. To subscribe, the *correct* address is: silver-off-topic-list-requ...@eskimo.com Just start a new message with that address in the To: or Addressee field, and the word 'subscribe' in the Subject field. Sorry for the confusion. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS and blood sugar question Nenah Rife box
- Original Message - From: "V" To: "Nenah Sylver" Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Re: CS>CS and blood sugar question Nenah Rife box Hi Nenah, I checkd a friend of mines blood sugar one time and it was like 68 and he as in a normal state. Diabetes can be cured with diet, simply get off the carbs and eat protien and fat. Hi V. I wish it were that simple. Many years ago I had diabetes and healed myself with diet. But not everyone can do this. Sometimes microbes cause infection and/or inflammation in the pancreas, which in turn interferes with insulin production. Sometimes, there's enough insulin but the cells are insulin resistant (though that does have to do with weight and diet). And sometimes, the problem stems from related glands. I used to pooh-pooh the microbe approach until I became involved with Rife technology and had the benefit of knowing some top researchers who are very involved in nutrition. I was amazed at the range of maladies in which microbes are implicated (including obesity, to my amazement!). It's not always the terrain, although improving the terrain certainly helps. Unfortunately, sometimes it really is a matter of microbes. But I always like a multifaceted approach. Thank you for the links. Sincerely, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>"God's" Creation? Question for Mike D.
Lea Ann writes: > If we move it to the Off-Topic list and if we remain civil, may we > discuss this topic? That's precisely what the Off Topic List is for, Lea Ann! Health related stuff that people want to talk about that isn't appropriate on the main list, *and* the *really* off topic stuff like this! Civility is still required, and I'll be there to referee if things start to degenerate, though I expect they won't. Lacking the archives, anybody wanting to follow OT threads there is going to have to subscribe, if they haven't already. That means sending a message to silver-off-topic-requ...@eskimo.com with the word 'subscribe' in the Subject line of the message. I've been quietly reminding people via back-channel that religion is prohibited as a topic on the main list, for the simple reason that it inevitably offends somebody, and has led us into some extremely ugly arguments in the past. People don't have to hide all signs of their faith, but it should not be the central topic of postings to the list, nor be allowed to intrude enough into the discussion to offend or annoy others. Thanks, Mike D. list owner > Hello Mike, > > I am very interested in this topic and want to respond but won't because > of your request to drop the subject. > > If we move it to the Off-Topic list and if we remain civil, may we > discuss this topic? > > Blessings, > Lea Ann > - Original Message - > From: Bill Keen > To: grace1...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:40 AM > Subject: CS>"God's" Creation? > > > Wow! > > In MY family, the only one as dumb as a vegetable had been struck by > lightning! Genesis tells us that everything was made for man. > Killing and eating flesh was the result of Adam's sin and began after > they were expelled from the Garden of Eden. The fruits and grains > were always meant for man to consume. > > As for forgiveness, He is faithful and just to forgive AFTER you have > successfully repented. Until you have changed your thinking to stop > sinning He CAN'T forgive the ongoing sins. Sin is in the thought, not > the deed. Deeds are the result of thoughts. > > Bill Keen [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap
Ode, Are you refering to CS, or another product like Miracle? Sorry, but I have missed most of this thread Sarah - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 6:15 AM Subject: Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap At 11:00 AM 11/12/2005 -0500, you wrote: Ode, I understand your ire at MLM - I'm right there with ya... ## So long as 'you' are satisfied with the value of a purchase, it doesn't matter who you paid to do what. ..It's just that when I find the same thing for a tenth the price minus 15 screaming do nothing middle men, I feel a bit the fool. I can have my own "F.U.D." for free. ;-) ode Years ago, I discovered a soap similar to M2 on the internet for much cheaper, but later searches proved fruitless. There are some good, long-time wholesale Miracle II buyers/sellers on the web and they were also hurt by the MLM fiasco. It started out promising, with the ability to purchase at competitive prices thru MLM. Then, the former marketing manager started his own MLM; with much back-stabbing and FUD (fear, uncertainty & doubt) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>"God's" Creation? Question for Mike D.
Hello Mike, I am very interested in this topic and want to respond but won't because of your request to drop the subject. If we move it to the Off-Topic list and if we remain civil, may we discuss this topic? Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Bill Keen To: grace1...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:40 AM Subject: CS>"God's" Creation? Wow! In MY family, the only one as dumb as a vegetable had been struck by lightning! Genesis tells us that everything was made for man. Killing and eating flesh was the result of Adam's sin and began after they were expelled from the Garden of Eden. The fruits and grains were always meant for man to consume. As for forgiveness, He is faithful and just to forgive AFTER you have successfully repented. Until you have changed your thinking to stop sinning He CAN'T forgive the ongoing sins. Sin is in the thought, not the deed. Deeds are the result of thoughts. Bill Keen
CS>BBC: UK man becomes HIV negative...
I wonder, if I'd used alternatives to eliminate the virus, if I wouldn't refuse to cooperate with the "authorities?" Don't we know of such "anecdotes" from users of CS and other therapies? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4432564.stm >>> Two Sunday newspapers report Scotsman Andrew Stimpson, who lives in London, was diagnosed as HIV-positive in 2002 but found to be clear in October 2003. Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust, which carried out the tests, has asked him to undergo more. Mr Stimpson did not take any medication for HIV. >>> Be well, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ole Bob's Constant Current CS Generator
I do not understand the use of the resistor, won't the LM337 regulate the current by its self. Bob
Re: CS>Square or round wires?
Where ion discharge is concerned, the area presented does not discharge ions in direct proportion to the area presented. On wide flat electrodes, the center does very little while the edges discharge the greater proportion of the ions. It's visibly obvious that there's a big difference while observing how electrodes wear away. The back sides do virtually no ion discharging. Corners and edges dissappear first, corners faster than edges, till finally you have a "U" that looks much like "V" with a rounded tip instead of a rectangle. The newer electroplating electrodes are made in a "D" shape with the rounded side being the side not facing. This shortens the pathways from the back, eliminates the secondary backside edge that a block has and evens out the actual discharge area some. Round shapes have no backsides, ineffective side facing flat centers, corners or edges, except for the end which will sharpen with the disproportionate discharge occurring there. Distance counts. The front of a round will go away a 'little' faster, [Which is why modern electrodes aren't 'round cylinders'] but swapping their postions between batches makes the former back the front and a piece of wire doesn't have the front/back distance differences that a 20 pound cylinder of copper has and the size/distance relationships aren't linear. ie, the smaller the diameter, the less the effect.[but also less surface area] Bending the very tips away from each other a bit will prevent tip erosion to a great degree..or..don't put the ends in the water in the first place. A round wire has ..almost.. twice the 'effective' discharge area than a flat rectangular electrode with the same surface area. A square wire run with flats parallel will become a rounded wire...more "D" shaped, actually, with the rounded part facing as the leading edges do most of the work. Ode [ex electroplater] At 09:19 AM 11/12/2005 -0800, you wrote: Hi Faith, Yes square would make a difference. The process is wet surface area dependent. A square of one millimeter wire has more surface area than a one millimeter diameter wire. The square would be 4 X width x wet length and the wire wouild be 3.1416 X diameter x wet length. That difference would change the brew time for the same current density. "Ole Bob" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0 - Release Date: 11/11/2005
Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap
At 11:00 AM 11/12/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >Ode, I understand your ire at MLM - I'm right there with ya... ## So long as 'you' are satisfied with the value of a purchase, it doesn't matter who you paid to do what. ..It's just that when I find the same thing for a tenth the price minus 15 screaming do nothing middle men, I feel a bit the fool. I can have my own "F.U.D." for free. ;-) ode >Years ago, I discovered a soap similar to M2 on the internet for much >cheaper, but later searches proved fruitless. >There are some good, long-time wholesale Miracle II buyers/sellers on the >web and they were also hurt by the MLM fiasco. >It started out promising, with the ability to purchase at competitive prices >thru MLM. >Then, the former marketing manager started his own MLM; with much >back-stabbing and FUD (fear, uncertainty & doubt) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>is alkaline water necessary for making good CS...? Nenah
If it's too big to get 'in'..it doesn't need to get 'out'. Silver BBs are quite harmless...but they don't do much other than go 'plink' in the morning. Ode At 08:51 AM 11/12/2005 -0700, you wrote: > >The problem to me with filtering is in addition to losing some silver, >you are also adding a bunch of godknows what. > >Of course, I still use a filter for coffee :-) . But I prefer not to >filter my EIS. When I pour it out of the brew jar, I sometimes leave the >larger bits of silver behind in the jar, but mainly I simply don't >worry about them, they are only pure silver after all. I am not really >understanding why people think these bits which are what has fallen off >the electrodes during silver making are a problem. If my EIS has a mix >of ions and tiny particles, I don't worry about a few larger particles >being in there. And after taking the time and trouble to put silver into >the DW, why filter any of it out again and waste it? >sol > >alltogether...@webtv.net wrote: > >>Maybe I'm getting a mix of sizes of particles. The small ones go through >>the coffee filter. Actually, I'm basing my "guesstimate" of ppm on use >>of the conductivity meter , which reads approx. 66. >> >> >> > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0 - Release Date: 11/11/2005
Re: CS>RE: CS >30-35ppm CS
If you are using a meter to determine the PPM, you may not be measuring what you think.
Any time there is an open air arc or plasma, nitric acid is being made.
Nitric acid is an extremely good electroyte and will make a meter read very high with virtually no silver present.
If it's made in the presence of silver ions, silver nitrate is being made.
On a rig such as this, it's important to use an inert gas blanket to keep air away from the unsubmerged electrode.
Some companies that may be making this error are listed here.
[Nitric acid content was not tested for.]
http://silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#CompTable
'Sorta' contrary to what the silver-colloids web site says, you can use a meter to get a sorta good "idea" of silver content, but only if you know that that's what you're measuring and not something else and it won't even register anything at all on a true colloid or any true colloidal content.
Meters are by no means a direct measurement and they don't discriminate.
300PPM and clear sends up a warning flag. Maybe possible but not likely...probably could use further scrutiny to be sure.
Silver nitrate is not especially user friendly.
Ode
At 05:58 AM 11/12/2005 -0800, you wrote:
How do they work.
<> They use High Voltage (15,000 volts {15Kv}) of AC. One silver electrode is placed into the water. My unit has High Voltage cable with an alligator clip on the end. I just clip a "Trader's Round" on and bend it so that the coin is mostly under water. Do NOT let the steel alligator clip get into the water. The water will tend to 'climb' up while the unit is running.
The other lead had a silver wire clipped on and it is suspended about 1/4 inch above the surface. This limits the current to produce smaller particles.
I use a 1/2 gallon Pyrex bowl to hold the DW for 'cooking'.
How long does it take to make 300 ppm?
At 15Kv the unit will produce 15ppm per pint per hour. The 300 ppm cooked for about 20 hours and is probably much stronger as the temperature of the DW continuously goes up and so does the current.
Where can I buy one at?
The man that made these no longer does so. However, the power supply is a commercial Neon Lamp power supply which should be available worldwide.
In the last week (?) there was a post for making a CS Gen out of a microwave oven. THis is intriguing! I am planning on trying it. Not only does it salvage a microwave in which the bad part is usually the magnetron (removed to use for CS) it also provides a measure of safety in that it only works with the oven door closed. Neat.
The source of the Neon supply should have the high voltage wiring you will need.
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Re: CS>raw dairy
No, I'm still looking myself. I just signed up with freecycle group in my area. Didn't post anything yet. Barbara If anyone has a whole foods market in their area, they sell raw organic milk and cheese. I havent yet found a source of grass fed eggs.Barbara, is their a web site that you could post about raw dairy? thanks
