RE: CS>Visionware

[Jim Holmes]

You meant inert with "inertate" ?

Thanks Marshall.

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:04 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Visionware

Alminum silicate is a very inertate material, in fact I think they use it in
grinding stones for an abrasive.  I don't think the body is capable of
breaking it down any more than it is sand.

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

> Marshall, et al,
>
> What do you think of aluminum silicate?  It is too bound to be a threat,
> right?
>
> I have used the visionware for years, I hope so.
>
> Trying to avoid aluminum , of course.
>
> Arrgh!  Now George Green says that sodium laural sulfate; found in almost
> all body soaps is a toxin too.
>
> I cannot believe that all of this crap, literally in our faces is a mere
> spin-off of greed.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sharie Hartwell [mailto:hartwells...@hawaii.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:30 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Visionware
>
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I remember getting the Visionware at Canadian Tire (cheap!) and at
> Zellers in Hanover, Ontario back in the 90's.  I know you weren't
> supposed to use the green scrubbies (would scratch and dull the
> finish on glass) but I got lazy and gently tried to remove the cooked
> (sometimes burned) food.  It not only dulled the glass but left a
> metallic sheen that looked like aluminum.  I got ahold of a customer
> service rep from Corningware and he said there was aluminum silicate
> in the glass as well as in the white corningware products.
>
> We also advise patients to stay away from cast iron due to the many
> problems with iron overload (hemachromatosis.) We tell them to use
> the stainless steel pots that will stick to a magnet.  Today's
> stainless steel pots and pans are made with all kinds of alloys
> (including the 5-ply, 6-ply and 7-ply ones) and do not adhere to
> magnets.  Occasionally I'll find a stainless pot or pan at a garage
> sale here in Hawaii.  When we lived in Canada, it was fairly easy to
> find these old cookware at garage sales or swap meets especially in
> the smaller towns and villages.
>
> Aloha,  Sharie
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RE: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[Jim Holmes]

Has shingles been investigated or considered as part of the problem? 

 

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From: gmetrop...@aol.com [mailto:gmetrop...@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating

 

I have a severe fibrotic,burning,contractive scalp muscle which causes a
domino affect of burning contractive muscles and systemic ciruculatory
issues. I have chroinc latent lyme that has caused this. I'd like to
integrate DMSO/CS spray to the scalp. I purchased  70%DMSO from Jacob Labs.
I was told its without toxic by-products that feed store brands carry. It
smelled horribly and stung when I applied it at  25% dilution. What would be
an effective but less causitc strength? Is this brand the safest to use? Can
CS alone be as effective? Does it do anything to hair color? In 4 years I
have turned totally gray due to the constant agony of this disease. Is DMSO
a chemical solvent?

RE: CS>Curing Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick

[Jim Holmes]

Why plate?  Aluminum bottom, bonded to silver pan, with handle of SS or
brass.  

 

Yes, very expensive, but a hidden stash in hard times. 

 

 

 

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From: Charles Sutton [mailto:cds...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:56 PM
To: Max Sanders; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Curing Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Max Sanders   

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:00 PM

Subject: Re: CS>Curing Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick

 

Charles

Actually, I like the idea of a silver plating too!  Is this practicle?  How
to do this if it makes sense?

 

I have seen plating done, but don't know how to do it.  Looks much like the
way we make CS (electricity to the pan, and a rod of silver)

 

Charles, how do you know really that no iron is transfered?  This would seem
to me to be varialble b! ased on acidity and heat, etc. 

 

Actually did some guessing here, since the carbon is between the iron and
the food... maby a guru on the list can enlighten us.

 

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Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[GMetropulo]

can the DMSo/CS combo work bulging varicose veins of the calf muscle or only 
on spider veins?

Re: CS>purifying water

[M. G. Devour]

> Today is my day for 20 questions. 

Good questions, too!

> I live in Florida and every year this time, I start
> gathering my hurricane supplies and I was wondering
> something.  In the event of a hurricane, if I had a
> supply of CS that we used up and and we were unable to
> buy distilled water from the stores for several weeks,
> would I be able to purify tap water with CS to use for
> brewing a new batch or is that off limits.  I guess my
> basic question isis distilled water the only
> source for brewing CS?  We actually have well water
> and not city water, however, it has a lot of iron in
> it and we have a basic filter on it, but it doesn't
> filter all of it out.  Any thoughts or advice?

There are several questions in there, yes.

The easiest thing to do is stock up on distilled water as well as 
regular drinking water. 

Make sure the CS generator you use can run off batteries or a small 
solar panel. The keep an extra set of batteries on hand. CS  making 
doesn't draw much so the batteries last a year, easily.  

You can sterilize water by hooking up silver wires to a battery and 
swishing or stirring the water as the wires generate silver ions that 
will kill bacteria. It should only take a couple of minutes. You're not 
trying to make CS, just kill any germs. Depending on how your CS 
generator works, you may be able to use it for this as well.

If all you had was clean bottled drinking water with the usual minerals 
in it, you *could* still make CS in it, of low quality, if it was a 
matter of survival. 

THIS IS IMPORTANT:

Just be aware that the minerals in the water will make the reaction go 
VERY FAST. It will take no more than a few minutes to finish a small 
batch. You will actually see the reaction happening as the negative 
wire generates streams of bubbles and the positive wire releases a 
visible cloud of large silver particles.  

You'll be making an uncontrolled mix of silver salts, so you won't 
really know what you've got, but it will still work. It will also 
increase your risk of argyria. So keep the brew time short, stop when 
it's still clear and only a tiny bit milky in color, use the smallest 
quantities that are *effective*, and switch back to using distilled 
water only as soon as practical.

To put this in perspective, a couple of people got argyria after they 
misunderstood instructions they downloaded from the net and used 
regular water with an unregulated generator to make dark, muddy sludge, 
and then took large amounts for months at a time.  

If you stop well short of "muddy sludge" and only use as much as you 
have to for the necessary effect, you should be okay for a period of 
days or a week or two. Maybe longer, but there are no guarantees.

Again, if it's an issue of survival, then using regular water to make 
CS is an expedient option.

Another couple of things to think about:

Catch rain water. If you let the first couple of minutes wash the dust 
down, then start collecting it, it may be better than your well water.

Make a solar still. You get strong sun there so it will be pretty 
efficient and fast. There are plenty of plans on the 'net. 

It can be as simple as stretching clear plastic across a low box frame 
and putting a small stone in the middle of it. Put pans of water under 
the frame and a funnel and jar beneath the stone. The water will 
evaporate from the pans, condense on the plastic, run down the slope 
towards the stone and collect in the jar.

I hope that helps with your questions. Keep asking! That's why we're 
here.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>silver dollar

[M. G. Devour]

That is a really lovely anecdote, Kandee.

I would not be surprised at all if it did just what you suggest. The 
relative purity that TJ points out makes it quite likely.

Neat!

Mike D.

> I'm curious.  My grandfather carried a silver dollar
> around with him for years when he was a child up until
> he was in his 50's. He constantly held it in his hand
> while in the pocket and rubbed it bare.  He never got
> sick until after he placed the "good luck" coin in his
> safe deposit box.  He's now in his 80's and still gets
> around like a young man despite his bout with
> pneumonia back in the 70's and now cancer (which is in
> remission).  Is it possible that the 1923 silver
> dollar kept him well?  I didn't know if touch transfer
> was enough to do the same as ingesting CS.
> 
> Kandee 
> 

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Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[Deborah Gerard]

so you got pretty good results that is great did it take a long time...thanks 
for the link...deb

Nancy DeLise  wrote:  For the spider veins I use 
the gel I got at www.dmso.com
  The moles I put the liquid right out of the bottle.
  Nancy
- Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating
  

Nancy what strength...was it gel type...thanks debbie

Nancy DeLise  wrote:   Sorry, I didn't finish the 
sentence, Beside two large moles on my face,  I have been putting DMSO directly 
on my spider veins on my legs, and they are just about gone.
  Nancy
   

Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[Nancy DeLise]

Exactly where I had mine.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating


  Thanks Nancy. I just wanted to be sure it was not the reverse.  I notice that 
Women tend to get spider veins at points where they sit with their legs 
crossed.  Ankles, inside knee, lower thighs.  etc.  

  Nancy DeLise  wrote:
Sorry, I didn't finish the sentence, Beside two large moles on my face,  I 
have been putting DMSO directly on my spider veins on my legs, and they are 
just about gone.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:44 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating








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Re: CS>Curing Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick

[Charles Sutton]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Max Sanders 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:00 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Curing Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick


  Charles
  Actually, I like the idea of a silver plating too!  Is this practicle?  How 
to do this if it makes sense?

  I have seen plating done, but don't know how to do it.  Looks much like the 
way we make CS (electricity to the pan, and a rod of silver)

  Charles, how do you know really that no iron is transfered?  This would seem 
to me to be varialble b! ased on acidity and heat, etc. 

  Actually did some guessing here, since the carbon is between the iron and the 
food... maby a guru on the list can enlighten us.

  Charles.
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Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[Nancy DeLise]

For the spider veins I use the gel I got at www.dmso.com
The moles I put the liquid right out of the bottle.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating


  Nancy what strength...was it gel type...thanks debbie

  Nancy DeLise  wrote: 
Sorry, I didn't finish the sentence, Beside two large moles on my face,  I 
have been putting DMSO directly on my spider veins on my legs, and they are 
just about gone.
Nancy

Re: CS>purifying water

[HRBE]

>From my experience, water filtration isn't effective, using the Hanna TDS 
>meter, my tap water measures 170 uS and with the water through a very 
>expensive filter, we got it down to 145uS.
For a comparison, my Genie Mk2 water distiller measures 1.5uS!!!
my 2 cents worth!
John in Australia
  - Original Message - 
  From: G & K Murray 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:08 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>purifying water


  TJ

  So do you use it for making silver?   Does it take out the minerals out of 
the water?  I was under the impression that most water filters can not take out 
the minerals.  It needs to be softened through a water softener for that to 
happen.  I have triple reverse osmosis water, that has been previously softened 
then ozonated at the finish.  What type of silver would be made from that kind 
of water.

  G Murray

  T J Garland wrote:

<>Buy a British Berkfield water filter. It will last you the rest of your
life~ $200. I have used mine every day for 10 years and have not changed
the filters yet. TJ

Re: CS>purifying water

[T J Garland]

It does not distill water. It has an activated charcoal inner core surrounded 
by silver impregnated diatomaceous earth shell for filters. Go to 
www.britishberkfield.com  I thought the lister was talking of good drinking 
water-not CS raw material.
  - Original Message - 
  From: G & K Murray 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>purifying water


  TJ

  So do you use it for making silver?   Does it take out the minerals out of 
the water?  I was under the impression that most water filters can not take out 
the minerals.  It needs to be softened through a water softener for that to 
happen.  I have triple reverse osmosis water, that has been previously softened 
then ozonated at the finish.  What type of silver would be made from that kind 
of water.

  G Murray

  T J Garland wrote:

<>Buy a British Berkfield water filter. It will last you the rest of your
life~ $200. I have used mine every day for 10 years and have not changed
the filters yet. TJ

CS>BROJON r.e. Bird Flu

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Some list members may find the following point of view interesting.

JBB

 


Good Morning --  BroJon Readers !!  Here's the latest edition of
 THE BROTHER JONATHAN GAZETTE
   DAILY DIGEST
  Wednesday February 6, 2006
 


“We'll know our disinformation program is complete when
everything the American public believes is false.”
-- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)
~

   THE BIRD FLU PANDEMIC FICTION
Another Case of the CIA Disinformation Program


Today's Top Story contains the statement “Scientists say H5N1 is  
mutating steadily and may eventually acquire the changes it needs to be  
easily transmitted from human to human.”


That part of the news story is complete fiction. Viruses are NOT alive  
and do not mutate. Bird Flu only infects birds, not humans. All  
influenza comes only from birds, and from the ancient bird precursors,  
the dinosaurs.  It is very easy for viruses to be generated among   
“cold-blooded” animals such as reptiles and birds.  Since, they cannot  
produce fevers to stop viral replication in their bodies.  Sometimes  
pigs can "catch" the bird viruses if they are raised living together.  
Humans can "catch" pig influenza, because of the extreme similarity in  
the cell tissue types.  But that process is NOT mutation of the virus,  
only a change in the outer coating of the virus.  What keeps mammals  
from getting reptile or bird viruses is the difference in the outer  
coating of the virus.


The greatest danger of the current prevalent H5N1 virus is it gets  
changed to have an outer coating of a human or pig virus. The creation  
of the pig virus is very rare.  If a pig sick with pig influenza is  
sneezed on by a bird sick with bird virus, then the bird virus can  
enter a damaged lung cell caused by the pig influenza. With millions of  
pigs and ducks raised together in eastern China this still only occurs  
several times each year. It is extremely rare.


The current "pandemic" of H5N1 among birds is properly called an  
Epizootic or Panzootic since it only occurs among animals. For it to be  
a Pandemic among humans the outer coating of the H5N1 would need to be  
changed to the human form. Will that ever happen? It has already  
happened months ago in the Labs of the CDC.


The CDC has already made samples of the "live" human form of the H5N1.  
The CDC said they did this to help in the manufacture and testing of a  
future H5N1 vaccine. See: The recent statements by CDC head Dr.  
Gerberding. If there is a human pandemic of the H5N1 Bird Flu, it will  
not come from birds. It will come straight from the Labs at the CDC.


The CDC has already sent "live" samples of the man-made Human H5N1  
virus to many labs around the world for testing. The virus could escape  
from anywhere. This is biological and economic warfare and terrorism at  
its worst. The human samples were manufactured and man-made in the US.  
What the Chinese. or terrorist groups, decide to do with their samples  
is up to them. (See: “The Tamiflu Myth,” on the BroJon front page)



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Re: CS>purifying water

[G & K Murray]

TJ

So do you use it for making silver?   Does it take out the minerals out 
of the water?  I was under the impression that most water filters can 
not take out the minerals.  It needs to be softened through a water 
softener for that to happen.  I have triple reverse osmosis water, that 
has been previously softened then ozonated at the finish.  What type of 
silver would be made from that kind of water.


G Murray

T J Garland wrote:


<>Buy a British Berkfield water filter. It will last you the rest of your
life~ $200. I have used mine every day for 10 years and have not changed
the filters yet. TJ

Re: CS>purifying water

[T J Garland]

Buy a British Berkfield water filter. It will last you the rest of your
life~ $200.  I have used mine every day for 10 years and have not changed
the filters yet. TJ
- Original Message -
From: "Kandee Edge" 
To: "List Silver" 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:23 PM
Subject: CS>purifying water


> Today is my day for 20 questions.
>
> I live in Florida and every year this time, I start
> gathering my hurricane supplies and I was wondering
> something.  In the event of a hurricane, if I had a
> supply of CS that we used up and and we were unable to
> buy distilled water from the stores for several weeks,
> would I be able to purify tap water with CS to use for
> brewing a new batch or is that off limits.  I guess my
> basic question isis distilled water the only
> source for brewing CS?  We actually have well water
> and not city water, however, it has a lot of iron in
> it and we have a basic filter on it, but it doesn't
> filter all of it out.  Any thoughts or advice?
>
> Kandee
>
>
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Re: CS>silver dollar

[T J Garland]

A 1923 US silver  dollar is 90 % silver  and 10% copper--both good for you.
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: CS>silver dollar


> Hello Kandee,
>
> From my understanding...the skin is very absorbant to almost every
substance
> known. Silver dollar back in his youth was most likely very very pure
> silver. Skin being the largest organ of the body can and will within time
> absorb. The skin breathes like the lungs. If one were to cover the whole
> body completely without allowing the skin exposure to air for a lengthy
> period of time a person can afixiate, sofocate. Rubbing the coin and
> creating heat from the fingers, would over time get into the body. To what
> concentration and if so would it have any significant affect, hard to say?
> As well, having this coin as good luck, plays into ones belief system
making
> them believe it will give them a good life or whatever. This sort of
> thinking is positive and eliminates an acidic environment which is
> contributed by stress. My homeopath always tells me that my thinking along
> with her remedy are two key things when it comes to healing. that my two
> cents worth (Grin)
>
> regards,
>
> E.
>
>
>
> >From: Kandee Edge 
> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >To: List Silver 
> >Subject: CS>silver dollar
> >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:23:34 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >I'm curious.  My grandfather carried a silver dollar
> >around with him for years when he was a child up until
> >he was in his 50's. He constantly held it in his hand
> >while in the pocket and rubbed it bare.  He never got
> >sick until after he placed the "good luck" coin in his
> >safe deposit box.  He's now in his 80's and still gets
> >around like a young man despite his bout with
> >pneumonia back in the 70's and now cancer (which is in
> >remission).  Is it possible that the 1923 silver
> >dollar kept him well?  I didn't know if touch transfer
> >was enough to do the same as ingesting CS.
> >
> >Kandee
> >
> >
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CS>purifying water

[Kandee Edge]

Today is my day for 20 questions. 

I live in Florida and every year this time, I start
gathering my hurricane supplies and I was wondering
something.  In the event of a hurricane, if I had a
supply of CS that we used up and and we were unable to
buy distilled water from the stores for several weeks,
would I be able to purify tap water with CS to use for
brewing a new batch or is that off limits.  I guess my
basic question isis distilled water the only
source for brewing CS?  We actually have well water
and not city water, however, it has a lot of iron in
it and we have a basic filter on it, but it doesn't
filter all of it out.  Any thoughts or advice?

Kandee


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CS>silver and breastfeeding

[Kandee Edge]

When taking CS during breastfeeding, can the benefits
of it pass to the child as well.  I have a 3 month old
who has a nasty cold and was wondering if I took
CS...would it help her.  I have not yet starting
taking CS.  I'm still a newbie.

Kandee

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Re: CS>CS and Vasculitis

[Craig C Chamberlin]

Hi Hannah,

LED Therapy might be of use.  Might want to email this guy, he makes 
most of the LED Arrays that are sold on the internet:


http://www.theledman.net

660nm (red) LED light speeds healing of wounds,  infections, and other 
conditions to a depth of about 1" by increasing cellular ATP and energy 
while reducing pain.


Warmly,

Craig

I wonder if any of the members could point me towards solution for 
(possible) Livedo  Reticularis. 

As a regular user of CS I have to assume that the CS as such is not 
having any impact on this  since I have had this discolourisation of 
thighs  for as long as I can remember. Wouldn't even be able to say if 
it looks worse now than before, mostly because I m so used to it. 
The dermatologist seems to think it may be related to a form of lupus or 
other auto immune condition (test results should be in soon).  From what 
I have been reading it appears idiopathic (a good one for guinea pig 
drug testing of course) but I haven't come across anything to improve 
this with an alternative approach.  The only discomfort I  experience is 
a tightness of top layer of skin of thighs and a hot burning sensation 
at times.  Hard to know if that is from possible Dercum's, or from this 
suspected LR.


Up until now I used that sensation as an indicator that I was 
dehydrated  and upped my fluid intake.. but perhaps there is more to it.  


Anyone?

Thanks

Hanneke






(


  *Livedo reticularis  
  http://skin-care.health-cares.net/livedo-reticularis.php*


Livedo reticularis is a blue-reddish skin discoloration and most often 
localized in the lower extremities. The pathological mechanism of this 
is poorly understood. Probably it is related to the peripheral blood 
flow redistribution. Livedo reticularis mostly represents an idiopathic 
condition but may be associated with systemic diseases.


Livedo reticularis is a disorder in which blood vessels are constricted, 
or narrowed. It results in mottled discoloring on large areas of the 
legs or arms. Livedo reticularis refers to a condition in which dilation 
of capillary blood vessels and stagnation of blood within these vessels 
causes mottled discolouration of the skin. It is described as being 
reticular (net-like) cyanotic (reddish blue discolouration) cutaneous 
discolouration surrounding pale central areas.
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CS>CS and Vasculitis

[Hannah]

I wonder if any of the members could point me towards
solution for (possible) Livedo  Reticularis.  
As a regular user of CS I have to assume that the CS as such is not
having any impact on this  since I have had this discolourisation of
thighs  for as long as I can remember. Wouldn't even be able to say
if it looks worse now than before, mostly because I m so used to
it.  
The dermatologist seems to think it may be related to a form of lupus or
other auto immune condition (test results should be in soon).  From
what I have been reading it appears idiopathic (a good one for guinea pig
drug testing of course) but I haven't come across anything to improve
this with an alternative approach.  The only discomfort I 
experience is a tightness of top layer of skin of thighs and a hot
burning sensation at times.  Hard to know if that is from possible
Dercum's, or from this suspected LR. 
Up until now I used that sensation as an indicator that I was
dehydrated  and upped my fluid intake.. but perhaps there is more to
it.   
Anyone?
Thanks
Hanneke



(Livedo reticularis  

http://skin-care.health-cares.net/livedo-reticularis.php
Livedo reticularis is a blue-reddish skin discoloration and
most often localized in the lower extremities. The pathological mechanism
of this is poorly understood. Probably it is related to the peripheral
blood flow redistribution. Livedo reticularis mostly represents an
idiopathic condition but may be associated with systemic diseases.

Livedo reticularis is a disorder in which blood vessels are constricted,
or narrowed. It results in mottled discoloring on large areas of the legs
or arms. Livedo reticularis refers to a condition in which dilation of
capillary blood vessels and stagnation of blood within these vessels
causes mottled discolouration of the skin. It is described as being
reticular (net-like) cyanotic (reddish blue discolouration) cutaneous
discolouration surrounding pale central areas.




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RE: CS>silver dollar

[epatai]

Hello Kandee,

From my understanding...the skin is very absorbant to almost every substance 
known. Silver dollar back in his youth was most likely very very pure 
silver. Skin being the largest organ of the body can and will within time 
absorb. The skin breathes like the lungs. If one were to cover the whole 
body completely without allowing the skin exposure to air for a lengthy 
period of time a person can afixiate, sofocate. Rubbing the coin and 
creating heat from the fingers, would over time get into the body. To what 
concentration and if so would it have any significant affect, hard to say? 
As well, having this coin as good luck, plays into ones belief system making 
them believe it will give them a good life or whatever. This sort of 
thinking is positive and eliminates an acidic environment which is 
contributed by stress. My homeopath always tells me that my thinking along 
with her remedy are two key things when it comes to healing. that my two 
cents worth (Grin)


regards,

E.




From: Kandee Edge 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: List Silver 
Subject: CS>silver dollar
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:23:34 -0800 (PST)

I'm curious.  My grandfather carried a silver dollar
around with him for years when he was a child up until
he was in his 50's. He constantly held it in his hand
while in the pocket and rubbed it bare.  He never got
sick until after he placed the "good luck" coin in his
safe deposit box.  He's now in his 80's and still gets
around like a young man despite his bout with
pneumonia back in the 70's and now cancer (which is in
remission).  Is it possible that the 1923 silver
dollar kept him well?  I didn't know if touch transfer
was enough to do the same as ingesting CS.

Kandee


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Re: CS>the castigation of cast iron

[Tad Winiecki]

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 05:03:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Pat 

This from the GE site says copper is ok, but I've read about people  having
the pans melt onto the glass and two store clerks told me you  can't use
copper bottoms on glass cooktops.  I love my glass  it's so much easier
to keep clean that those impossible drip pans  and all.
 Pat

Types of Cookware that Can Be Used  on the Smooth Glass Cooktop

  * Cast Iron   cookware is not recommended. If the cookware has a burr or
rough spot,  it will scratch the glass surface. Additionally, it is slow to
absorb  heat. Once this type of cook!  ware  heats up, especially on hi
heat it  holds an intense amount of heat which is transferred to the
cooktop.  This can cause the element to shut down as a response to the
temperature limiters which indicate surface temperature is too high for
cooktop components to handle.


Interesting- I ground the bottom of my cast iron skillet smooth and sanded
it before using it on my glass cooktop.  I don't seem to have any trouble-
maybe I wouldn't notice the element shutting off. I also use my
copper-bottomed stainless steel cookware and have even boiled it dry.  My
bad.

Nancy



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Re: CS>breast lump to wendy

[ruth strackbein]

This reminds me of a book I have been reading, a biography of Ignaz Semmelweis who discovered in the 1850's that puerperal fever after having a baby was caused by Doctors and interns going directly from dissecting corpses to delivering babies.  A simple remedy of washing hands in an early version of chlorine solution prevented this almost 100 percent of the time.  This Semmelweis kept meticulous records of his work, but the powers that were  in his hospital and around the world refused to accept his work!  Mainly this was because of political pressure from the top.  Hundreds of thousands of women and babies were thus murdered by man's stubborness. Ruth
From Ruth Strackbein


From: Acmeair Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CS>breast lump to wendyDate: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:59:59 -0800>man, i hadn't heard that one. did they (FDA) make it a policy, or >did they put that law on the books? dirty bastards, eh?>>Jim Holmes wrote:>>>That is probably why the FDA made it a crime to have any >>silver-containing>>substances in the vicinity of a cow barn.-Original Message->>From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, March 05, >>2006 12:07 AM>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com>>Subject: Re: CS>breast lump to wendyladies, without being intrusive, may i try to recollect some very 
>>interesting info that was presented in my early days on this list. >>i had been introduced to "colloidal silver", and had attended a >>presentation by Dr. Bob Beck, in pasedena, ca, in the late ,or mid >>1090's. i was a enthusiastic convert, from this experience.during the time frame of trying to learn how to build these units, >>or how to purchase them, and being tied into the list, i recall >>some interesting posts. regarding milk quality, on a dairy farm, if >>i remember correctly, in either minnesotta, or wisconsin, or some >>high producing dairy area, this farmer stated " he had been having >>problems with mastitus in his herd. when the antibiotics were >>prescribed and applied, by the vet, there was a loss of >>acceptability of his milk, because of 
the contamination of the >>milk, by the "medicine". if remembering correctly, he stated that >>he was having great success, in gettting rid of the mastitus, with >>nothing more than cleansing the teets, with a wipe-down of CS. >>,untill the animal health, or fda, i don't recall which, found >>out about this, and shut him down, with threats, and all that >>stuff. apparrently, if he was caught using this "colloidal silver, >>to stop mastitus, with no side effects, etc., they would close his >>dairy.>>>-->The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >Silver.>>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org>>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com>>Address 
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Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[Tad Winiecki]

-
 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:19:23 -0500
From: "Wendy" 
To: 


I there. Just curious about this.


We use a lot of alternative therapies for our family and we make our own
CS although I have limited knowledge of dmso.

I'm 38 and turned my life around about 8 yrs ago and did a lot of
cleansing and cleanup (except for amalgams) prior to my first child
being born 4.5 yrs ago. I don't do a lot of cleansing and avoid parasite
herbs etc. when I am breastfeeding. >

Wendy-  Hopefully you are getting support from a La Leche League?  I nursed
3 babies for 2, 3+ and 3+ years, and would like to encourage you to
continue.  I would guess you know how special the nursing relationship is.
I know breast cancer is a scary subject but dropping from nursing 15 x a
day to 2 would certainly have made me get mastitis, as there would be too
much stagnation. I believe in preventive cancer strategies.  There have
been posts about those before, I could send you some if you like.  Breast
feeding is one of those, as it makes progesterone more dominant in the
hormones in the body.  If you stop you would shift back to more estrogen
and less progesterone, in my understanding, which would foster tumor growth
more?  I also think using an organ is the best maintenance, so lactating in
my opinion would only help.

I looked at my file on herbs safe for lactating, and the Clark herbs for
parasites are listed-

http://www.growinglife.com/herbalsafety.htm

Lactating/Breastfeeding:
Black Walnutcompatible
Clove   compatible
Wormwoodcaution

This is a post about a clove/silver treatment for parasites-

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From: "Rowena Evans" 
To: 
Subject: CS>CS: Parasites, silver, friendly flora and cloves (quotes from
Article on Wizardofeyez website)

Quotes for your information from an article as below:

How to Eliminate Parasites

  http://www.wizardofeyez.com/parasite.html

Silver & Clove is an all-natural liquid anti-parasite complex. It has been
specifically formulated to be well tolerated over time even by people with
very senstive digestive systems, without compromising its potency or
broad spectrum of action. Its effectiveness has been proven by the Institute
of Parasitic Diseases (IPD) in cases of entamoeba histolytica, blastocystis
hominis, entamoeba hartmanni, cryptosporidium parvum, entamoeba coli,
balantidium coli, dientamoeba fragilis, ascaris lubricoides, giardia
lamblia, chilomastix and in some fungal infestations including candida. It
has been effective for ascaris lumbricoides in combination with diatomaceous
earth. This approach has been effective at a dosage of 8 droppers twice a
day for a period ranging from 2 to 6 weeks, as shown in the table below. The
Institute for Parasitic Diseases in Phoenix, Arizona, which performed these
laboratory assessments, has the highest documented rate for positively
identifying parasites.

Parasite

Average Time

Dosage

Results

Ascaris lumbricoides

3 weeks

(list of parasites and results follows)

- - - and - - -
In order that Silver & Clove will not imbalance the terrain of various
sensitive individuals or interfere with any other ongoing treatments, the
formula has been developed to have a neutral effect on terrain. The specific
combination that has been developed incorporates adaptogenic and cleansing
herbs including wild American ginseng and red clover to prevent the stress
of die-off including kidney stress, toxemia, intestinal irritation and
chronic dehydration associated with other natural antiparasitic formulas.
Because parasites may also harbor viruses and bacteria, colloidal silver and
olive leaf, added clinically documented broad spectrum anti-bacterial and
anti-viral power to the formula. The colloidal silver, at 5 ppm and a
particle size of .0001 microns, also works as an antifungal remedy and kills
the eggs of all larger parasites to help break their reproductive cycle.
While this is a powerfully effective formula, it is still important,
however, while taking Silver & Clove, to continue to work on improving and
balancing the terrain with other methods and remedies.

Silver & Clove is available through Remission Foundation. Silver & Clove was
brought to our attention by Starfire member, Dr. Murray Clarke, who is the
formulator of the ChildLife product line. Dr. Clarke & his associates have
found, through laboratory stool analyses, live blood evaluation and European
electrodiagnostic procedures that Silver & Clove is the best parasite remedy
they have ever encountered in their practice.

This uniquely mild, yet effective, parasite clearing formulation was
developed by Dr. Timothy Ray of BioRay based on BEV and other clinical
research with numerous patients. Parasites were monitored by observation of
live blood samples through darkfield microscopy techniques as well as
laboratory stool analyses.

Ingredients: 3:1 concentrate of green walnut hull, grapefruit seed extract,
artemesia absynthium, a

Re: CS>Hep A or B?

[alltogethernow]

I have had the impression that vit c makes the CS drop out of solution.
I have seen this in a glass of water, but don't really know what is
happening for certain.
 
 From what I read, I think that we lose the ability to produce hci
(hydrochloric acid) as we age, and even more so when we have a
degenerative disease (accelerated aging), so more  vitamin c can get to
the bowels and cause distress, if not absorbed.  Increased HCI allows
better absorption. (and a better appetite) I get nearly zero symptoms
even at 30 gms.
 It is also claimed that the sicker a person is, the higher bowel
tolerance, because the c donates electrons to quell free radicals, so
.more free radicals, more c needed and used. When the c isn't being
taken up, - (healthy state) it is left in the bowels, and you get
distress.
 BTW, I had almost no appetite (no hunger pangs-nothing) only eating by
the clock, until I took the hci. 


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CS>silver dollar

[Kandee Edge]

I'm curious.  My grandfather carried a silver dollar
around with him for years when he was a child up until
he was in his 50's. He constantly held it in his hand
while in the pocket and rubbed it bare.  He never got
sick until after he placed the "good luck" coin in his
safe deposit box.  He's now in his 80's and still gets
around like a young man despite his bout with
pneumonia back in the 70's and now cancer (which is in
remission).  Is it possible that the 1923 silver
dollar kept him well?  I didn't know if touch transfer
was enough to do the same as ingesting CS.

Kandee 


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Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[GMetropulo]

I have a severe fibrotic,burning,contractive scalp muscle which causes a 
domino affect of burning contractive muscles and systemic ciruculatory issues. 
I 
have chroinc latent lyme that has caused this. I'd like to integrate DMSO/CS 
spray to the scalp. I purchased  70%DMSO from Jacob Labs. I was told its 
without 
toxic by-products that feed store brands carry. It smelled horribly and stung 
when I applied it at  25% dilution. What would be an effective but less 
causitc strength? Is this brand the safest to use? Can CS alone be as 
effective? 
Does it do anything to hair color? In 4 years I have turned totally gray due to 
the constant agony of this disease. Is DMSO a chemical solvent?

Re: CS>Hep A or B?

[sol]

I'm curious if you continued to take your CS along with the vit. C and 
hydrochloric acid therapy? Also can you tell us what the hydrocloric 
does to reduce the bowel effects of vit C?

thanks,
sol

alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:


I have always gotten relief from the symptoms of hcv with my homade
20-30 ppm cs, even better with h202 added, however, I believe that the
damage contiued, based of health status and blood test (no biopsy) -many
days I was drinking a quart, and more.

Only in the last few months of mega dosing on vit c, have I gotten
really good results. I've learned to quell the bowel distress by taking
one hydrochloric acid 500mg at the half hour, and 3-4 gms ascorbic acid,
or sodium ascorbate at he top of each hour.

Some good words to search are -titrating to bowel tolerance- Klenner,
cathcart, Pauling

You can buy 3lbs vit c NOW brand for about $50 online. 
It would be good to have both C and CS if this b. flu hits hard. 
  



 




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RE: CS>Hep A or B?

[alltogethernow]

I have always gotten relief from the symptoms of hcv with my homade
20-30 ppm cs, even better with h202 added, however, I believe that the
damage contiued, based of health status and blood test (no biopsy) -many
days I was drinking a quart, and more.
 
 Only in the last few months of mega dosing on vit c, have I gotten
really good results. I've learned to quell the bowel distress by taking
one hydrochloric acid 500mg at the half hour, and 3-4 gms ascorbic acid,
or sodium ascorbate at he top of each hour.

 Some good words to search are -titrating to bowel tolerance- Klenner,
cathcart, Pauling

 You can buy 3lbs vit c NOW brand for about $50 online. 
 It would be good to have both C and CS if this b. flu hits hard. 
   


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RE: CS>Visionware

[Jim Holmes]

What about migration through the film? 

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Visionware

   Properly seasoned cast iron [or aluminum] does not have any exposed iron 
[or aluminum]
..best for fry pans, not so great for boiled foods as boiling tends to 
destroy the seasoning.
No soap!

Ode

At 12:29 AM 3/4/2006 -1000, you wrote:

>Hi Wendy,
>
>I remember getting the Visionware at Canadian Tire (cheap!) and at
>Zellers in Hanover, Ontario back in the 90's.  I know you weren't
>supposed to use the green scrubbies (would scratch and dull the
>finish on glass) but I got lazy and gently tried to remove the cooked
>(sometimes burned) food.  It not only dulled the glass but left a
>metallic sheen that looked like aluminum.  I got ahold of a customer
>service rep from Corningware and he said there was aluminum silicate
>in the glass as well as in the white corningware products.
>
>We also advise patients to stay away from cast iron due to the many
>problems with iron overload (hemachromatosis.) We tell them to use
>the stainless steel pots that will stick to a magnet.  Today's
>stainless steel pots and pans are made with all kinds of alloys
>(including the 5-ply, 6-ply and 7-ply ones) and do not adhere to
>magnets.  Occasionally I'll find a stainless pot or pan at a garage
>sale here in Hawaii.  When we lived in Canada, it was fairly easy to
>find these old cookware at garage sales or swap meets especially in
>the smaller towns and villages.
>
>Aloha,  Sharie
>
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RE: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[Jim Holmes]

Local animal supplies store. 

 

-Original Message-
From: kskiefe...@aol.com [mailto:kskiefe...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating

 

DMSO = where is the best source?

 

Karen Kiefer

RE: CS>breast lump to wendy

[Jim Holmes]

It is a law. Statute, anyway.  Passes for law in this lawless nation. 

-Original Message-
From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>breast lump to wendy

man, i hadn't heard that one.  did they (FDA) make it a policy, or did 
they put that law on the books? dirty bastards, eh?

Jim Holmes wrote:

>That is probably why the FDA made it a crime to have any silver-containing
>substances in the vicinity of a cow barn. 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net] 
>Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:07 AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>breast lump to wendy
>
>ladies, without being intrusive, may i try to recollect some very 
>interesting info that was presented in my early days on this list. i had 
>been introduced to "colloidal silver", and had attended a presentation 
>by Dr. Bob Beck, in pasedena, ca, in the late ,or mid 1090's. i was a 
>enthusiastic convert, from this experience.
>
>during the time frame of trying to learn how to build these units, or 
>how to purchase them, and being tied into the list, i recall some 
>interesting posts. regarding milk quality, on a dairy farm, if i 
>remember correctly, in either minnesotta, or wisconsin, or some high 
>producing dairy area, this farmer stated " he had been having problems 
>with mastitus in his herd. when  the antibiotics were prescribed and 
>applied, by the vet,  there was a loss of  acceptability of his milk, 
>because of the contamination of the milk, by the "medicine".  if  
>remembering correctly, he stated that he was having great success, in 
>gettting rid of the mastitus, with nothing more than cleansing the 
>teets, with a wipe-down of CS.,untill the animal health, or fda, 
>i don't recall which, found out about this, and shut him down, with 
>threats, and all that stuff. apparrently, if he was  caught using this 
>"colloidal silver, to stop mastitus, with no side effects, etc., they 
>would close his dairy.
>  
>


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Re: CS>Visionware

[Marshall Dudley]

Alminum silicate is a very inertate material, in fact I think they use it in
grinding stones for an abrasive.  I don't think the body is capable of
breaking it down any more than it is sand.

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

> Marshall, et al,
>
> What do you think of aluminum silicate?  It is too bound to be a threat,
> right?
>
> I have used the visionware for years, I hope so.
>
> Trying to avoid aluminum , of course.
>
> Arrgh!  Now George Green says that sodium laural sulfate; found in almost
> all body soaps is a toxin too.
>
> I cannot believe that all of this crap, literally in our faces is a mere
> spin-off of greed.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sharie Hartwell [mailto:hartwells...@hawaii.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:30 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Visionware
>
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I remember getting the Visionware at Canadian Tire (cheap!) and at
> Zellers in Hanover, Ontario back in the 90's.  I know you weren't
> supposed to use the green scrubbies (would scratch and dull the
> finish on glass) but I got lazy and gently tried to remove the cooked
> (sometimes burned) food.  It not only dulled the glass but left a
> metallic sheen that looked like aluminum.  I got ahold of a customer
> service rep from Corningware and he said there was aluminum silicate
> in the glass as well as in the white corningware products.
>
> We also advise patients to stay away from cast iron due to the many
> problems with iron overload (hemachromatosis.) We tell them to use
> the stainless steel pots that will stick to a magnet.  Today's
> stainless steel pots and pans are made with all kinds of alloys
> (including the 5-ply, 6-ply and 7-ply ones) and do not adhere to
> magnets.  Occasionally I'll find a stainless pot or pan at a garage
> sale here in Hawaii.  When we lived in Canada, it was fairly easy to
> find these old cookware at garage sales or swap meets especially in
> the smaller towns and villages.
>
> Aloha,  Sharie
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Re: CS>the castigation of cast iron

[mborgert]

I KNOW THIS SUBJECT IS NOT POTS OR PANS.
I RESPECT THIS LIST OPINIONS SINCE THIS IS THE ONLY LIST I AM ON, I WOULD LIKE 
TO ASK IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD EXPECIENCES,GOOD OR BAD, WITH HOME BASED 
BUSINESSES.
PLEASE CONTACT MY OFF LINE AT: mborg...@att.net
THANK YOU
MARY LOU
 -- Original message --
From: Carol Ann 
> I use cast Iron on a glass cooktop every day.  
> 
> kskiefe...@aol.com wrote: "You can't use iron pots or copper bottoms on 
> glass cooktops, and aluminum  can leave marks (wouldn't use that anyway)"
>   
>  is that true?  I had not read anything about what was limited on the  glass 
> cooktops.
>   
>  Karen
> 
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> 
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I use cast Iron on a glass cooktop every day.  kskiefe...@aol.com wrote: "You can't use iron pots or copper bottoms on glass cooktops, and aluminum  can leave marks (wouldn't use that anyway)"   is that true?  I had not read anything about what was limited on the  glass cooktops.   Karen  Carol Ann    ___  The Pessimist complains about the Wind;The Optimist expects it to change;The Realist adjusts the Sails.   - The world needs more sailors.  
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CS>Silver plating cast iron, was Curing Cast Iron

[ransley]

I sure would like to hear more about plating silver onto cast iron. I'm
posting this on the OT list also, as I suspect it should go over there. 

I have a plumber's furnace that I think would get hot enough to do it, or
would this be more like soldering? I also have an acetylene soldering rig.
What kind of flux would you use to to this?

I cook all the time with well seasoned cast iron and a flat bottom steel
wok. The only way I have been able to use that wok is to allow a layer of
carbon to build up in the bottom of it, but not so with our cast iron fry
pans.

One thing I learned to never do, while attempting to season a wok over a gas
burne:. Never use Soybean Oil. Attempt to stop eating it as well. The stuff
turns to asphalt if it reaches flashing temperature. We have nearly
eliminated it from our diet at home, but it's very difficult to eliminate
when eating out.

Daddybob


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Re: CS>CS with DMSO

[sol]

I do.
sol

Pat wrote:

Can you mix the CS and DMSO and keep it so you don't have to mix it 
each time?


   
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RE: CS>Hep A or B?

[epatai]

oops...hahaha..thanks Mike. *wik*



From: "M. G. Devour" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Hep A or B?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:08:02 -5

And I'll even change the subject line for you, Ernie! 

Ernie wrote:
> ok, on the subject of "ON" topic..
>
> Would anyone be able to tell me if CS is affective in preventing Hep A,
> and Hep B. or curing it for that matter?

Mike D. wrote:
> >Ah, yes. Our list conscience has reminded me that we've been
> >freewheeling on rather too many Off Topic subjects for too long.
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Re: CS>Cs & dmso breast lump, but lactating....

[Carol Ann]

Thanks Nancy. I just wanted to be sure it was not the reverse.  I notice that 
Women tend to get spider veins at points where they sit with their legs 
crossed.  Ankles, inside knee, lower thighs.  etc.  

Nancy DeLise  wrote: Sorry, I didn't finish the 
sentence, Beside  two large moles on my face,  I have been putting DMSO 
directly on my  spider veins on my legs, and they are just about gone.
 Nancy
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   Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:44  PM
   Subject: Re: CS>Cs & dmso breastlump, but lactating
   




  
  
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CS>Hep A or B?

[M. G. Devour]

And I'll even change the subject line for you, Ernie! 

Ernie wrote:
> ok, on the subject of "ON" topic..
> 
> Would anyone be able to tell me if CS is affective in preventing Hep A,
> and Hep B. or curing it for that matter?

Mike D. wrote:
> >Ah, yes. Our list conscience has reminded me that we've been
> >freewheeling on rather too many Off Topic subjects for too long.
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Re: CS>the castigation of cast iron

[Carol Ann]

I use cast Iron on a glass cooktop every day.  

kskiefe...@aol.com wrote: "You can't use iron pots or copper bottoms on 
glass cooktops, and aluminum  can leave marks (wouldn't use that anyway)"
  
 is that true?  I had not read anything about what was limited on the  glass 
cooktops.
  
 Karen



  
  
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[epatai]

ok, on the subject of "ON" topic..

Would anyone be able to tell me if CS is affective in preventing Hep A, and 
Hep B. or curing it for that matter?


most sincerely,

Ernie



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Subject: CS>[List Owner] OT list reminder...
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:10:38 -5

Ah, yes. Our list conscience has reminded me that we've been
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Re: CS>Curing Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick

[William Missett]

The best method I know to clean iron skillets (which I have and use daily) 
when they get too coated with burned food is to scrub them with raw, clean 
sand, the coarser the better.


This cleans the iron down to the original metal, and allows a clean start 
for proper conditioning, as per TJ's excellent drill.



- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Sutton" 

To: "Sharie Hartwell" ; 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: CS>Curing Cast Iron to As Good As Teflon Non Stick




The websites below may be useful.  I learned by trial and error how to 
cook,

and take care of a cast iron pan.
If you find a skillet at the flea marked with 1/4 inch of carbon or more 
on
the bottom.  Put it in an oven that is self cleaning.  Place it upside 
down
and leave it in there during the cleaning cycle...It will come out 
clean

down to the original iron. Polish it up with metal scrubber.  Put some
cooking oil in it while still warm.  Take a paper towel and polish it to
remove all the oil you can.  Put it in the oven at 350 and bake it for at
least an hour.  This will turn the very thin amount of oil on it into
carbon, in effect "plating" it with carbon.   No metal taste.  No iron 
will

get into the food. and whatever you use to cook an egg, the egg will slide
around on the bottom like non-stick  I never wash it, just use the 
metal

scrubber to clean it...Not down to the metal, or you will have to cure it
again... Put it back on the stove and dribble a little oil in it and 
polish

it back up with a paper towel.  Let the pan get hot just in case there are
any beasties there, and use it again.soon you will have a nice plating
of carbon.  Never put it in the dishwasher, it will rust and you will have
to cure it again..
Use soap if you must, but do it by hand and make sure you rinse off the 
soap

completely then oil it again
The antique pans are the best because they are mush more polished.. The 
new

ones available now are rough finished, and can't be properly cured...
Actually, I like the idea of silver plating itnever tried it though..
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Information/CastIronPans.htm
http://housewares.about.com/od/cookware/f/curingcastiron.htm
http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Humor/Al/CuringIron.htm
- Original Message - 
From: "Sharie Hartwell" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 5:29 AM
Subject: CS>Visionware



Hi Wendy,

I remember getting the Visionware at Canadian Tire (cheap!) and at
Zellers in Hanover, Ontario back in the 90's.  I know you weren't
supposed to use the green scrubbies (would scratch and dull the
finish on glass) but I got lazy and gently tried to remove the cooked
(sometimes burned) food.  It not only dulled the glass but left a
metallic sheen that looked like aluminum.  I got ahold of a customer
service rep from Corningware and he said there was aluminum silicate
in the glass as well as in the white corningware products.

We also advise patients to stay away from cast iron due to the many
problems with iron overload (hemachromatosis.) We tell them to use
the stainless steel pots that will stick to a magnet.  Today's
stainless steel pots and pans are made with all kinds of alloys
(including the 5-ply, 6-ply and 7-ply ones) and do not adhere to
magnets.  Occasionally I'll find a stainless pot or pan at a garage
sale here in Hawaii.  When we lived in Canada, it was fairly easy to
find these old cookware at garage sales or swap meets especially in
the smaller towns and villages.

Aloha,  Sharie


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Re: CS>the castigation of cast iron

[Pat]

This from the GE site says copper is ok, but I've read about people  having the 
pans melt onto the glass and two store clerks told me you  can't use copper 
bottoms on glass cooktops.  I love my glass  it's so much easier to keep 
clean that those impossible drip pans  and all.
 Pat

Types of Cookware that Can Be Used  on the Smooth Glass Cooktop


   Flat Bottom pans  are essential for good cooking performance since the 
bottom of the pan  needs to touch the glass for the best heat transfer. Most 
current  brands sold today have flat bottoms. Much older, used cookware and/or  
thinner cookware will show signs of no longer being flat. Non-flat pans  may 
crack the glass.


   Use Medium or Heavy-Weight cookware.


   Stainless Steel  is highly recommended. A sandwich clad bottom is especially 
good  because it combines the durability and stability of stainless steel  with 
the heat conduction and distribution of aluminum or copper.


   Heavy-Weight Aluminum  cookware is also recommended. It conducts heat faster 
than other metals  and cooks evenly. Aluminum residue sometimes appears as 
scratches on  the cooktop, but these can be removed if cleaned immediately.


   Copper Bottom pans  are also good, but they can leave residues on the 
cooktop that appear  as scratches. These can be removed if cleaned immediately, 
but do not  let a copper bottom pan boil dry. An overheated copper pot will 
leave a  residue that will permanently stain the cooktop.


   Porcelain/Enamel pans  give good performance only if they have a thick, flat 
bottom. Avoid  boiling these pans dry, as porcelain can melt and fuse to the 
surface.


   Glass or Ceramic cookware  is not recommended. These pans may scratch the 
surface. Glass is a poor  conductor of heat so cooking times will be longer and 
they may require  constant attention during cooking.


   Stoneware is not recommended. It may scratch the surface and will give poor 
performance.


   Cast Iron   cookware is not recommended. If the cookware has a burr or rough 
spot,  it will scratch the glass surface. Additionally, it is slow to absorb  
heat. Once this type of cookware heats up, especially on hi heat it  holds an 
intense amount of heat which is transferred to the cooktop.  This can cause the 
element to shut down as a response to the  temperature limiters which indicate 
surface temperature is too high for  cooktop components to handle.


   Porcelain Coated Cast Iron   cookware is okay as long as the cookware is 
covered completely with  porcelain enamel. Caution is recommended when using 
cast iron cookware  that is not completely covered with smooth porcelain 
enamel, as it may  scratch the glass ceramic cooktop. Additionally, if used at 
hi heat for  a long period it will hold heat as described for plain cast iron 
and  could shut down in response to the temperature limiters which indicate  
surface temperature is too high for cooktop components to handle.


   Carbon Steel cookware is okay as long as the cookware has a flat bottom and 
is smooth to avoid scratching.  


   Titanium cookware tested well on  ceramic cooktops. Ceramic titanium is a   
non-stick finish applied to a  base metal. We tested one with aluminum as a 
base metal. 



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Re: CS>Visionware

[Ode Coyote]

  Most small town or 'country' small hardware stores have cast iron fry pans.
Ode

At 09:47 AM 3/4/2006 -0500, you wrote:

I have and do use the visions, but my two favorite fry pans for my 
stirfrys and lightly sauteeing have teflon and one thing i have definitely 
realized is that i dont want teflon.  Went to Walmart three days ago - 
every frlying pan there had teflon, gesshhh, but some one here 
had a good suggestion, am going to flea markets and yard sales now, 
looking for the cast iron or more visions. Thank you all of you wonderful 
people that have given me the information to help me see what to do.   Jen


- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Visionware



Hi,

As I understand, The silicate in the corningware doesn't affect us unless 
it is heated to such high temperatures that it would practically melt. I 
don't recall the specific information on the toxicity report. it was 
listed here at one time by a fellow lister. Temperature if I'm not 
mistaken was around the 700 fereheit mark. That is pretty hot..infact 
very hot. I don't believe anyone cooks anything with that degree of heat. 
just to stir people's curiosity..My apologies for not having this 
information on hand. Corning glasswear is almost impossible to locate 
now. One would "assume" corning stopped producing the transparent 
cookware for a good number of reasons and good health I think is 
definately one of them. I managed to get a hold of a few sets of this 
stuff  in almost mint condition at a flea market. it's better then 
anything I have used. don't use scrub pads on them and there is no 
worries. However, if one is obsessed with what one is ingesting..then 
where does the anti stop. How far is one willing to go? And how much can 
one afford.?


Ernie



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To: 
Subject: Re: CS>Visionware
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 7:53:56 -0500

Correct -magnetic stainless is mostly 410 alloy -containing ONLY 
chrominun and  iron.

>
> From: Sharie Hartwell 
> Date: 2006/03/04 Sat AM 05:29:59 EST
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Visionware
>
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I remember getting the Visionware at Canadian Tire (cheap!) and at
> Zellers in Hanover, Ontario back in the 90's.  I know you weren't
> supposed to use the green scrubbies (would scratch and dull the
> finish on glass) but I got lazy and gently tried to remove the cooked
> (sometimes burned) food.  It not only dulled the glass but left a
> metallic sheen that looked like aluminum.  I got ahold of a customer
> service rep from Corningware and he said there was aluminum silicate
> in the glass as well as in the white corningware products.




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Re: CS>Visionware

[Ode Coyote]

  Properly seasoned cast iron [or aluminum] does not have any exposed iron 
[or aluminum]
..best for fry pans, not so great for boiled foods as boiling tends to 
destroy the seasoning.

No soap!

Ode

At 12:29 AM 3/4/2006 -1000, you wrote:


Hi Wendy,

I remember getting the Visionware at Canadian Tire (cheap!) and at
Zellers in Hanover, Ontario back in the 90's.  I know you weren't
supposed to use the green scrubbies (would scratch and dull the
finish on glass) but I got lazy and gently tried to remove the cooked
(sometimes burned) food.  It not only dulled the glass but left a
metallic sheen that looked like aluminum.  I got ahold of a customer
service rep from Corningware and he said there was aluminum silicate
in the glass as well as in the white corningware products.

We also advise patients to stay away from cast iron due to the many
problems with iron overload (hemachromatosis.) We tell them to use
the stainless steel pots that will stick to a magnet.  Today's
stainless steel pots and pans are made with all kinds of alloys
(including the 5-ply, 6-ply and 7-ply ones) and do not adhere to
magnets.  Occasionally I'll find a stainless pot or pan at a garage
sale here in Hawaii.  When we lived in Canada, it was fairly easy to
find these old cookware at garage sales or swap meets especially in
the smaller towns and villages.

Aloha,  Sharie


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