Re: CS>off subject cough drops

2006-04-22 Thread Dennis Gulenchin
Could they have been Strepsils or Zubes? I remember both of them being 
available in the early 70's here but havn't seen them since. (Zubes were 
especially good but didn't care for the strepsils as they made your 
throat numb)

Dennis

panamp...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone remember what brand of cough drops makes
those flat, gray ones that came in a tin?  I think it was Sucrets, but 
not sure. I took them in the 70-80s and they
did a number on one's throat(numbing)   I've been trying to find them 
as my wife has had this persistent, nagging and

hacking cough since Christmas.   I've tried my 12PPM eis
but it didn't remedy the situation.Thanks,   PanAm





Re: CS>House voltage

2006-04-22 Thread debbiegerard99

excuse me Dan I was only replying to what Sam said...deb
-- Original message -- 
From: Dan Nave  

> What are you getting at? House voltage at the outlets don't have 
> anything to do with silver rods turning black? 
> 
> Dan 
> 
> 
> 
> debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: 
> > Can I ask what the scoop is on the house outlet's and their voltage? I 
> > asked Sam but he hasn't been on latelythe discussion was about the 
> > silver rod turning black...which since I have moved that doesn't happen 
> > anymore could someone clue me in on how or what I could use to test my 
> > outlets in this apartment...thanks so much everyone debbie 
> > 
> > 
> > -- Original message -- 
> > From: Marshall Dudley 
> > 
> > > sol wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > I guess I thought it would work the same as using peroxide to 
> > clean the 
> > > > silver wires? 
> > > > Tarnish is different, but is all tarnish on all silver the 
> > same? Why 
> > > > doesn't peroxide clean tarnish off? 
> > > 
> > > Silver reacts with sulfur producing tarnish more actively than 
> > oxygen, so 
> > > oxygen from the peroxide will not displace the sulfur. 
> > > 
> > > Marshall 
> > > 
> > > > Guess I need a basick chemistry lesson. 
> > > > And why not use regular old silver polish as is used on 
> > silverware? Does 
> > > > it leave harmful residues? 
> > > > I looked at the label on my jar of silverpolish and it doesn't 
> > say what 
> > > > is in it. 
> > > > thanks, 
> > > >! ; sol < BR>> > 
> > > > V wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > >peroxide does not work in the same way 
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Re: CS>CS and endocervicitis

2006-04-22 Thread debbiegerard99

Wendy if you have a good sized syringe ( without the needle). or...a new enema 
bottle, we have them at the dollar store around here...if you can get a few 
minutes to lay on your bed with a pillow under your bottom so the cs is going 
in deep, that might be an option toodeb
-- Original message -- 
From: "Wendy"  

> 
> Hi there and help! I'm curious to know if anyone has any experience with 
> CS and vaginal issues - ie. Endocervicitis? I've been battling this 
> since my daughter was born 17 months ago, except I thought it was a 
> cyst. The same thing happened after my son was born 4.5yrs ago however 
> diligent use of vaginal ozone therapy cleared it up in 6-8 weeks. This 
> has not been the case this time. 
> 
> My ND has used silver nitrate twice on it but with no success. 
> 
> I have to get on top of this so I decided to do something about it. I 
> have purchased my own speculum and was thinking about spraying CS 
> directly onto the cervix where the infection is a couple times a day. I 
> tried it tonight and it's a little tricky, but doable;-) Or maybe mixing 
> it with dmso??? Any thoughts? Will using either of these upset the 
> balance??? Ie. Kill the good guys and the bad guys? Acidophilous?? 
> 
> I have read some articles about success with painting it with iodine or 
> using tea tree oil as a 40% solution but am still researching. I haven't 
> a clue on how to take the essential tea tree oil I have to make a 20% - 
> 40% solution??... dilute with olive oil maybe??? but how do I do the 
> math??? 
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Wendy 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>House voltage

2006-04-22 Thread Dan Nave
What are you getting at?  House voltage at the outlets don't have 
anything to do with silver rods turning black?


Dan



debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote:
Can I ask what the scoop is on the house outlet's and their voltage? I 
asked Sam but he hasn't been on latelythe discussion was about the 
silver rod turning black...which since I have moved that doesn't happen 
anymore could someone clue me in on how or what I could use to test my 
outlets in this apartment...thanks so much everyone debbie
 


-- Original message --
From: Marshall Dudley 

 > sol wrote:
 >
 > > I guess I thought it would work the same as using peroxide to
clean the
 > > silver wires?
 > > Tarnish is different, but is all tarnish on all silver the
same? Why
 > > doesn't peroxide clean tarnish off?
 >
 > Silver reacts with sulfur producing tarnish more actively than
oxygen, so
 > oxygen from the peroxide will not displace the sulfur.
 >
 > Marshall
 >
 > > Guess I need a basick chemistry lesson.
 > > And why not use regular old silver polish as is used on
silverware? Does
 > > it leave harmful residues?
 > > I looked at the label on my jar of silverpolish and it doesn't
say what
 > > is in it.
 > > thanks,
 > >! ; sol < BR>> >
 > > V wrote:
 > >
 > > >peroxide does not work in the same way
 > > >V
 > > >
 > > >
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CS>CS not working for stomach bug?

2006-04-22 Thread Wendy

Me again.

My 2 small children and I have a nasty bug of some sort - day 9 today
since my 4.5 yr old first threw up.

It seems that they throw up basically every 2nd day, just once until
thestomach is completely empty. Then they go back to running around
happy and playing. They've not mounted anything but a low grade fever
once in awhile. For me, my stomach has just been burning and churning,
no vomiting. Any food or drink seems to cause a sore tummy for 2 of us.
My ds had runny poops off and on but just him.

A few days ago it moved into a cold too with runny nose, cough (mostly
just my youngest) which is in line with 2 other families we know of that
had this before us although we haven't even been around them this year.

I've used what usually always works for everything - oregano oil and
homemade cs (silvergen model), sodium ascorbate, I'm still nursing so
using allicyn and GSE and nursing as much as possible. My kids aren't
eating much and are losing weight and they are tiny to begin with so
this isn't good.  I've been juicing and chicken soup etc. to help with
fats and nutrients. At first because it was only occurring every 2nd day
and they were in such a good mood that I kept thinking it was gone and
would forget to maintain their dosages throughoutthe next day.

I have successfully found a homeopathic remedy for my youngest for the
bad cough that just came on last night and it's way better then it was.
(she had just about gotten over a 6wk chronic cough before this) and am
awaiting feed back from our homeopath for a more accurate remedy for the
whole picture.

Any other thoughts or experience with a bug like this??

Wendy





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CS>House voltage

2006-04-22 Thread debbiegerard99
Can I ask what the scoop is on the house outlet's and their voltage? I asked 
Sam but he hasn't been on latelythe discussion was about the silver rod 
turning black...which since I have moved that doesn't happen anymore could 
someone clue me in on how or what I could use to test my outlets in this 
apartment...thanks so much everyone debbie

-- Original message -- 
From: Marshall Dudley  

> sol wrote: 
> 
> > I guess I thought it would work the same as using peroxide to clean the 
> > silver wires? 
> > Tarnish is different, but is all tarnish on all silver the same? Why 
> > doesn't peroxide clean tarnish off? 
> 
> Silver reacts with sulfur producing tarnish more actively than oxygen, so 
> oxygen from the peroxide will not displace the sulfur. 
> 
> Marshall 
> 
> > Guess I need a basick chemistry lesson. 
> > And why not use regular old silver polish as is used on silverware? Does 
> > it leave harmful residues? 
> > I looked at the label on my jar of silverpolish and it doesn't say what 
> > is in it. 
> > thanks, 
> > sol 
> > 
> > V wrote: 
> > 
> > >peroxide does not work in the same way 
> > >V 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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CS>CS and endocervicitis

2006-04-22 Thread Wendy

Hi there and help! I'm curious to know if anyone has any experience with
CS and vaginal issues - ie. Endocervicitis? I've been battling this
since my daughter was born 17 months ago, except I thought it was a
cyst. The same thing happened after my son was born 4.5yrs ago however
diligent use of vaginal ozone therapy cleared it up in 6-8 weeks. This
has not been the case this time.

My ND has used silver nitrate twice on it but with no success.

I have to get on top of this so I decided to do something about it. I
have purchased my own speculum and was thinking about spraying CS
directly onto the cervix where the infection is a couple times a day. I
tried it tonight and it's a little tricky, but doable;-) Or maybe mixing
it with dmso??? Any thoughts? Will using either of these upset the
balance??? Ie. Kill the good guys and the bad guys? Acidophilous??

I have read some articles about success with painting it with iodine or
using tea tree oil as a 40% solution but am still researching. I haven't
a clue on how to take the essential tea tree oil I have to  make a 20% -
40% solution??... dilute with olive oil maybe??? but how do I do the
math???

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

Wendy





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Re: CS>Cleaning tarnished silver bars?

2006-04-22 Thread Robert Berger
STOP CLEANING
   
  "Ole Bob"
  

 


Re: CS>making CS - The Work Factor

2006-04-22 Thread Dan Nave
Thanks Mike for applying so much clarity to this issue.  I think you 
have described it exactly right.


Calculating the total silver released into the solution, or at least the 
maximum possible, based on watt-seconds was the basis of Bob Lee's and 
Mike Monet's posts indicating how to calculate the amount of silver in 
the CS (Faraday's equations of electrolysis, I think...)


This is what I used to determine the amount of time to run my 1/2 gallon 
of CS when I make it with a constant current system but no conductivity 
sensor.  I did the integration of the current before the current limit 
kicked in, and after that I had a constant current situation which could 
be regulated for ppm by the time of brewing.  This works quite 
consistently for a known brewing cell with a known distilled water.


The thing that's bothering me is illustrated in Ole Bob's graph of the 
"Effects of Initial Conductance on Brew Time" on page 8 of his CS book.


One brew, starting with higher conductivity water, took 45 minutes, the 
other,starting with lower conductivity water, took 120 minutes.  Both 
brews ended up with the same general silver ion ppm.  However, the first 
one required 244 watt-seconds and the second one took 348 watt-seconds 
to get to the same silver ion concentration.  This was a polarity 
switching cell; what happened to the extra liberated silver?  The graph 
says very little tyndall.  This implies that it is more efficient to 
start with higher conductivity distilled water and brew for a shorter 
time at higher current than to start at a lower conductivity DW and brew 
longer at a lower current!?...


Dan

(What? You don't have a copy of Ole Bob's book?  Get your a$$ in gear 
and get one right away! You don't know how long they will be 
available!...  I just bought two more - I had given one away, and now I 
have one to keep and one to loan out.  ;-))



M. G. Devour wrote:

Bob writes:


Power factor becomes a problem in alternating current systems, NOT
switched DC systems. It involves the phase angle bewteen the voltage and
current in the system.



Bob's right, in that the term Power Factor has a specific meaning in 
alternating current systems with reactive loads, neither of which apply 
in a typical low voltage CS generator, no matter how sophisticated or 
simple its design.


I think the original person (Wayne?) who suggested "Power Factor" was 
simply thinking of the relevance of voltage and current -- which, when 
multiplied together gives you the power being dissipated in a circuit --
to the making of CS.  

I think the most relevant answer was alluded to early on on this 
thread, probably by Bob, again, that if you integrate the current 
driven  through the generating cell, you'll get a number which is very 
closely related to the total amount of silver that's been put into the 
water.


You can think of this integration process as adding together the 
current reading every second for the duration of the run. You'll get a 
figure in milliamp-seconds or amp-seconds. Multiply each reading by the 
corresponding voltage reading, you'll get a value in milliwatt-seconds 
or amp-hours, both of which are a measure of work.


There might be a lot of information that a careful researcher could 
tease out of such readings and calculations regarding the form the 
silver takes in the water in response to applied voltage, relative to 
surface area,  geometry, initial purity, and other factors that affect 
the process. In fact, Bob has done a lot of just that sort of study.


It's easy to confuse matters when one innocently attempts to express an 
idea with a term that sounds right but already has another, precise but 
totally different meaning.


Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CS>Cleaning tarnished silver bars?

2006-04-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote:

> I guess I thought it would work the same as using peroxide to clean the
> silver wires?
> Tarnish is different, but is all tarnish on all silver the same? Why
> doesn't peroxide clean tarnish off?

Silver reacts with sulfur producing tarnish more actively than oxygen, so
oxygen from the peroxide will not displace the sulfur.

Marshall

> Guess I need a basick chemistry lesson.
> And why not use regular old silver polish as is used on silverware? Does
> it leave harmful residues?
> I looked at the label on my jar of silverpolish and it doesn't say what
> is in it.
> thanks,
> sol
>
> V wrote:
>
> >peroxide does not work in the same way
> >V
> >
> >
> >
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RE: CS>EIS & Pacemakers

2006-04-22 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Ed,
I have a pacemaker for several years and make, take and sell CS daily
regularly as needed and never any problems. My cardiologist and family
doctor know about this and sometimes take CS.
Properly made CS is the answer.
Read my Site and let me know if I can be of help.
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com

-Original Message-
From: Ed White [mailto:edwhi...@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>EIS & Pacemakers

Does anyone have information or searchable resources regarding cautions or
contraindications using colloidal silver by mouth &/or nasal irrigation in
the presence of pacemakers. I need to intervene soon.

Ed White




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Re: CS>making CS - The Work Factor

2006-04-22 Thread M. G. Devour
Bob writes:
> Power factor becomes a problem in alternating current systems, NOT
> switched DC systems. It involves the phase angle bewteen the voltage and
> current in the system.

Bob's right, in that the term Power Factor has a specific meaning in 
alternating current systems with reactive loads, neither of which apply 
in a typical low voltage CS generator, no matter how sophisticated or 
simple its design.

I think the original person (Wayne?) who suggested "Power Factor" was 
simply thinking of the relevance of voltage and current -- which, when 
multiplied together gives you the power being dissipated in a circuit --
to the making of CS.  

I think the most relevant answer was alluded to early on on this 
thread, probably by Bob, again, that if you integrate the current 
driven  through the generating cell, you'll get a number which is very 
closely related to the total amount of silver that's been put into the 
water.

You can think of this integration process as adding together the 
current reading every second for the duration of the run. You'll get a 
figure in milliamp-seconds or amp-seconds. Multiply each reading by the 
corresponding voltage reading, you'll get a value in milliwatt-seconds 
or amp-hours, both of which are a measure of work.

There might be a lot of information that a careful researcher could 
tease out of such readings and calculations regarding the form the 
silver takes in the water in response to applied voltage, relative to 
surface area,  geometry, initial purity, and other factors that affect 
the process. In fact, Bob has done a lot of just that sort of study.

It's easy to confuse matters when one innocently attempts to express an 
idea with a term that sounds right but already has another, precise but 
totally different meaning.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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CS>EIS & Pacemakers

2006-04-22 Thread Ed White
Does anyone have information or searchable resources regarding cautions or
contraindications using colloidal silver by mouth &/or nasal irrigation in
the presence of pacemakers. I need to intervene soon.

Ed White


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