Re: CS>Poison Ivy
Charles- If you read my post about my experiences that getting PI wet spreads and increases the reaction, then you would understand why your experience with the hot showers took 3 weeks to resolve, whereas mine after I learned to keep the rash very dry took only a few days. It's truely painful though, I had to sleep with ice packs on my stomach for a few days when I had the bad case similar to yours in extent. Nancy -- Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 20:55:34 -0400 From: "Charles Sutton" I contracted poison ivy when I was about 6 years old. Got it only on one hand. That hand swelled up to over twice normal size. The doctor at that time told Mom and Dad to soak it in epsom salts in water at hot as I could stand it. The hot water is the only relief I got.and it was time alone that actually did the healing.. Many years later I was hiking through the Ocala Forest in Florida, and cut a staff with a fork at the end for use as a snake stick, just in caseIt was hot summertime and I wiped the sweat off my face and body with my hands. Turned out that the stick was Poison Sumac. The same as Ivy (urushiol). of course I also had to pee on that trip. The long and short of it was since I skinned the stick and put it over my shoulders I got that oil EVERYWHERE.This time the doctor put me on prednisone. (he said that was all we had for such a serious case) The pred cost about 90.00 for 2oz jar. It did work some, but I finally remembered the hot water treatment, and started hot showers, as hot as I could stand it...It felt wonderful! I got the only good nights sleep in a week with the showers. I had to have one every 2 to 4 hours. I told the doctor about it, and he said and I quote "Don't do that; please don't do that" with no other explanation. of course I continued because it was the only releif I could find..again, only time finally did the curingabout three weeks. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>me too
Oh my goodness I just realized I responded to the post's too so I get to apologize too :)debbie
RE: CS>Probiotic Question
thank you Ed :)...debbie -- Original message -- From: "Ed Kasper" two of the best non-commercial sites Dom's Kefir site http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html and the Weston A Price Foundation http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html Besides the sour kraut and typical fermented foods there's Caspian Sea Yogurt - which requires no cooking and is smooth and drinkable. Kefir again no cooking just straining which is a powerhouse and even my 3 and 8 year olds will ask for it! There's also Kombucha Tea (recommended by Dr Robert Barefoot/ Calcium Factor) KT is a longer ferment typically 6-8 days and produces a sparkling apple cider-like tea. How to make kombucha Tea at my site http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm. The best thing is that once you get started its really easily, and cheap to make your own. And there's a lot of help at the newsgroups. You may even ask for gift - as some of the members do gladly give starters away. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done >From Ruth Strackbein From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com (Unknown) Subject: CS>Probiotic Question Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 03:48:00 + Could someone be so kind to advise me on a good source of pro-biotic...their seems to be so much bad press on some of them I don't know who to trust...thank in advance debbie
RE: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
I don't mean to sound negative but should there be some concern about spraying something like WD4O on a wound and absorbing the chemicals that are in the product in the bloodstream? just pondering here :) thanks debbie -- Original message -- From: "Jeff" > Ahhh, WD40seriously.is there anything it can't do? > WD40 and some duct tape and you can fix just about anything. Then when you > hurt yourself fixing what ever you need it for, you can treat yourself with > CS. Life is good. ( and a little itchy right now ) > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:28 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion > > Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it is a > petrolium base product is it not ? > Sandee > > May your troubles be less, your blessings more, > and nothing but happiness comes through your door! > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>Point to ponder
Sandee writes: > ...please remind me how I can subscribe > or join the OT list Got to http://www.silverlist.org and click on the Off Topic List link to the left of the page. There you'll find the OT list rules and instructions for subscribing. Any problems with that, let me know and I will assist. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Stirring CS
Thanks Marshall, I appreciate the time taken to send me the posts. Any chance of a schematic of your power supply and the polarity switcher? John - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:07 AM Subject: Re: CS>Stirring CS The top is pretty crowded, but clean. In the picture you can see the aquarium with the silver wire (which has since been replaced with silver plates), and the top with the pump in it, the lab supply supplying 35 volts, and in front of the supply is a polarity switching relay that switches the polarity once a minute, and between that and the power supply is a 7805 voltage regulator with a resistor to give a 40 mA constant current (it is the small black square just under the black terminal of the power supply). To the right is a yellow meter I use to monitor the voltage across the anode and cathode, and in the front is a TDS meter and a laser pointer. The tube to the right goes to a 55 gallon drum with a magnetic pump and a flow meter on it, and the tube on the left is the overflow that goes to the 55 gallon holding tank (it is almost hidden by wires going to the outlet strip). Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
Ahhh, WD40seriously.is there anything it can't do? WD40 and some duct tape and you can fix just about anything. Then when you hurt yourself fixing what ever you need it for, you can treat yourself with CS. Life is good. ( and a little itchy right now ) -Original Message- From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it is a petrolium base product is it not ? Sandee May your troubles be less, your blessings more, and nothing but happiness comes through your door! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Point to ponder/apology
Harold and Maryou, Thank you both, gentlemen. Mike D. > To Mike and all; > My apologies for posting the above,off topic and poor taste. > Harold [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Probiotic Question
two of the best non-commercial sites Dom's Kefir site http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html and the Weston A Price Foundation http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html Besides the sour kraut and typical fermented foods there's Caspian Sea Yogurt - which requires no cooking and is smooth and drinkable. Kefir again no cooking just straining which is a powerhouse and even my 3 and 8 year olds will ask for it! There's also Kombucha Tea (recommended by Dr Robert Barefoot/ Calcium Factor) KT is a longer ferment typically 6-8 days and produces a sparkling apple cider-like tea. How to make kombucha Tea at my site http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm. The best thing is that once you get started its really easily, and cheap to make your own. And there's a lot of help at the newsgroups. You may even ask for gift - as some of the members do gladly give starters away. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done From Ruth Strackbein From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com (Unknown) Subject: CS>Probiotic Question Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 03:48:00 + Could someone be so kind to advise me on a good source of pro-biotic...their seems to be so much bad press on some of them I don't know who to trust...thank in advance debbie
CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
Dunno, It has some odd properties. Pretty sure DMSO is part of the proprietary blend as it relieves arthritis pain. I've used it as a electrical contact cleaner similar to TV tuner cleaner. That and duct tape and I'm set for the millenium!!! Chuck Pick your enemies carefully--they're harder to get rid of than friends >Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it is a >petrolium base product is it not ? >Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Probiotic Question
Hi, Debbie, I'm interested in pro-biotic, too. And am just as puzzled as you are. I did look up the site you gave me re alternative medicine places in Minnesota. The only one that is possible at all for me would be the one in Mankato. I haven't driven there in several years. Just get too tired and hands get stiff while driving. I am considering trying out the chiropractor in Winthrop which is just 8 miles away. One lady in our congregation recommended him highly, but I have been to so many of those without significant help, that I have hesitated. Have cut down the Seroquel to 1/2 dose and already felt more sprightly this morning. Dr. didn't want me to cut down for another month, but I am tired of being so tired! LOL. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: debbiegerar...@comcast.netReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.com (Unknown)Subject: CS>Probiotic QuestionDate: Wed, 03 May 2006 03:48:00 + Could someone be so kind to advise me on a good source of pro-biotic...their seems to be so much bad press on some of them I don't know who to trust...thank in advance debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Making Quality CS at Home
> But we get points for our names > being original, right? Yep! > One more CS question, does the temperature of the room where the CS is > brewed affect the brewing in any way? In other words, are there any > major differences between brewing in a hot and humid room compared to > brewing in a cold room? Yes, temperature will certainly effect something in the process, but the results will be in the ballpark and still work. Even as subtle a thing as the state of the tides (lunar position) has been found to have a *measurable* and *repeatable* influence on minor details of the CS generation process, but it's not anything that you would have to worry about in a routine setup. (Yes, I'm serious. Someone was doing carefully controlled measurements of a CS generator setup and could not get repeatable results or explain certain subtle variations in the process until he recognized and accounted for tidal effects. Strange but true.) Other things have a more direct and important effect on the process, such as water quality, cleanliness, geometry, silver purity (99.9% or better), starting and ending current, and so on. Anything you make keeping the major variables under control will be good enough to work with if your basic process is right. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Brewing CS
To all (especially new members) You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply using a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating. Bob
Re: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
ok..have a drink then..if you get really ill, well then you know it's not organic..hahaha. WD40 also, breaks down rust..so there must be an acidic compound to neutralize it. known to free up seazed bolts..many lubricants are out on the market now that smell almost the same and do the same. E. From: Marshall Dudley Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 11:30:16 -0400 Hard to say, searching with google, I find people who say it does, and people who say it doesn't. But being highly penetrating, I would not be surprised if it did. Marshall Kandee Edge wrote: > I read once that WD-40 has no ingredients that are > harmful, even if ingested. I wasn't sure if this was > fact or urban legend. The article stated that the > ingredients to WD-40 are top secret too. Does it > really have DMSO? I'm very curious now. > > Kandee > > --- epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > > yes, WD40 is a industrial lubricant. most likely > > petroleum based. > > > > > > >From: Sandee George > > >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >Subject: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion > > >Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 10:27:51 -0300 > > > > > >Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it > > is a > > >petrolium base product is it not ? > > >Sandee > > > > > >May your troubles be less, your blessings more, > > >and nothing but happiness comes through your door! > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > > Colloidal Silver. > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > > http://silverlist.org > > > > > >To post, address your message to: > > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: > > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > > currently down... > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
Hard to say, searching with google, I find people who say it does, and people who say it doesn't. But being highly penetrating, I would not be surprised if it did. Marshall Kandee Edge wrote: > I read once that WD-40 has no ingredients that are > harmful, even if ingested. I wasn't sure if this was > fact or urban legend. The article stated that the > ingredients to WD-40 are top secret too. Does it > really have DMSO? I'm very curious now. > > Kandee > > --- epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > > yes, WD40 is a industrial lubricant. most likely > > petroleum based. > > > > > > >From: Sandee George > > >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >Subject: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion > > >Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 10:27:51 -0300 > > > > > >Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it > > is a > > >petrolium base product is it not ? > > >Sandee > > > > > >May your troubles be less, your blessings more, > > >and nothing but happiness comes through your door! > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > > Colloidal Silver. > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > > http://silverlist.org > > > > > >To post, address your message to: > > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: > > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > > currently down... > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Point to ponder
Oopsie! Sorry for the misstep, I may have been too high on cabbage juice when I replied to Harold's post. ;) Ok, ok, jokes aside, I do get your point Mike, and thanks for the reminder. And I hope my response to Harold wasn't seen as an attack or too distasteful, and if so, please receive my sincere apologies. Maryau M. G. Devour wrote: Hi gang! Since we have a number of new members getting used to the place, it's time for a reminder from the list owner... Politics (like religion) is a prohibited topic on the main Silver List. Harold's post is not appropriate, and Maryou's response is a perfect illustration of the next tiny step from that first political post to a full blown brouhaha. There is simply *nothing* you can say on either topic that is so innocuous that *somebody* won't disagree or take offense. So, the rule is: Don't post political or religious comments, and don't respond to those posted by others. Not meaning to stomp totally on personal expression in the religious realm, the occasional "God Bless" or other passing references to your own faith is acceptable, but stay off the soap box and don't comment on others' remarks or beliefs. Of course, if you'd like to discuss (not argue or debate) these topics with others of an open minded bent, we have the Silver Off Topic list to take the overflow from here. You can subscribe to it in a similar way to the main list, and I'm happy to allow and help referee our more meandering discussions there. The Silver List Rules and instructions for joining the OT list are at our web site: http://www.silverlist.org ... the address for which is in the footer at the bottom of every list message. If anybody else replies to either Harold's or Maryou's messages before seeing this one, please just ignore them. It may take a day or two for everybody to catch up with their mail. Thank you for your patience and cooperation, everyone. I appreciate the community we have here very much. Be well, Mike D. da list owner, dude! Hi Harold: Just some personal thoughts: :o) The essence of capitalism is indeed good, and is perhaps even a required tool for man to thrive in a material world. However, capitalism would be much better off without credit card companies - I don't mean without a credit system - considering the fraud they represent by being able to 'advance' money they merely create or obtain out of thin air. The evils of fractional reserve are what come to mind. As for the government counting votes...errrmm...ummmactually, when was the last time the government seriously considered counting votes without rigging them? ;) Maryau Harold MacDonald wrote: "Capitalism is responsible for lifting more people out of the mud and mire than any other force in history." "Most people don't appreciate the miracles of capitalism, I can rent a car from someone who doesn't speak English and, when I get home Visa or MasterCard will have it counted to the penny. And the government can't even count the votes in Florida." [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Making Quality CS at Home
Hey, Mike, I thought HE was a she, too! I betcha gets it all the time, huh Maryau?? (BTW my daughter is Robyn!!!) Love you both... Marshalee Hehehe, I do get that a lot. (My mother would have loved your daughter's name, her name is Yvette). But we get points for our names being original, right? One more CS question, does the temperature of the room where the CS is brewed affect the brewing in any way? In other words, are there any major differences between brewing in a hot and humid room compared to brewing in a cold room? Maryau -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Point to ponder/apology
To Mike and all; My apologies for posting the above,off topic and poor taste. Harold
RE: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
I read once that WD-40 has no ingredients that are harmful, even if ingested. I wasn't sure if this was fact or urban legend. The article stated that the ingredients to WD-40 are top secret too. Does it really have DMSO? I'm very curious now. Kandee --- epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: > yes, WD40 is a industrial lubricant. most likely > petroleum based. > > > >From: Sandee George > >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Subject: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion > >Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 10:27:51 -0300 > > > >Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it > is a > >petrolium base product is it not ? > >Sandee > > > >May your troubles be less, your blessings more, > >and nothing but happiness comes through your door! > > > > > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > currently down... > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >
RE: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
yes, WD40 is a industrial lubricant. most likely petroleum based. From: Sandee George Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 10:27:51 -0300 Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it is a petrolium base product is it not ? Sandee May your troubles be less, your blessings more, and nothing but happiness comes through your door! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Point to ponder
Hi There Mike - please remind me how I can subscribe or join the OT list - thanks Sandee May your troubles be less, your blessings more, and nothing but happiness comes through your door! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Poison Ivy - WD40 discussion
Now this is very interesting Marshall - however it is a petrolium base product is it not ? Sandee May your troubles be less, your blessings more, and nothing but happiness comes through your door! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Poison Ivy
It is my understanding that the reason WD-40 has good properties for things like this is that it contains DMSO. Marshall Charles Sutton wrote: > WD-40 > > A friend of mine recomended wd-40 on Poison Oak rashes so I tried it > and the rash was gone within a day. He said the wd-40 has oil leaching > properties which is why it works. Make sure you wash and rinse the > area thoroughly with cold water and soap after rubbing it with wd-40. > -Ian Oppenheim > --Ian Oppenheim (oppen...@nospamyahoo.com) submitted 20/Jul/2001
Re: CS>Making Quality CS at Home
Hey, Mike, I thought HE was a she, too! I betcha gets it all the time, huh Maryau?? (BTW my daughter is Robyn!!!) Love you both... Marshalee > > > You're most welcome, ma'am. > > LOL?!? It's Maryau, as in Mario, with an exotic spelling because my > > mother had an affair with the letter 'y'. Tsk Tsk. ;o) > > Ahh well! You're most welcome *SIR*!! > > > > Mike D. > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Point to ponder
Hi gang! Since we have a number of new members getting used to the place, it's time for a reminder from the list owner... Politics (like religion) is a prohibited topic on the main Silver List. Harold's post is not appropriate, and Maryou's response is a perfect illustration of the next tiny step from that first political post to a full blown brouhaha. There is simply *nothing* you can say on either topic that is so innocuous that *somebody* won't disagree or take offense. So, the rule is: Don't post political or religious comments, and don't respond to those posted by others. Not meaning to stomp totally on personal expression in the religious realm, the occasional "God Bless" or other passing references to your own faith is acceptable, but stay off the soap box and don't comment on others' remarks or beliefs. Of course, if you'd like to discuss (not argue or debate) these topics with others of an open minded bent, we have the Silver Off Topic list to take the overflow from here. You can subscribe to it in a similar way to the main list, and I'm happy to allow and help referee our more meandering discussions there. The Silver List Rules and instructions for joining the OT list are at our web site: http://www.silverlist.org ... the address for which is in the footer at the bottom of every list message. If anybody else replies to either Harold's or Maryou's messages before seeing this one, please just ignore them. It may take a day or two for everybody to catch up with their mail. Thank you for your patience and cooperation, everyone. I appreciate the community we have here very much. Be well, Mike D. da list owner, dude! > Hi Harold: > > Just some personal thoughts: :o) > > The essence of capitalism is indeed good, and is perhaps even a required > tool for man to thrive in a material world. > > However, capitalism would be much better off without credit card > companies - I don't mean without a credit system - considering the fraud > they represent by being able to 'advance' money they merely create or > obtain out of thin air. The evils of fractional reserve are what come > to mind. > > As for the government counting votes...errrmm...ummmactually, when > was the last time the government seriously considered counting votes > without rigging them? ;) > > Maryau > > Harold MacDonald wrote: > > > > > > > > "Capitalism is responsible for lifting more people out of the mud and > > mire than any other force in history." > > > > "Most people don't appreciate the miracles of capitalism, I can rent a > > car from someone who doesn't speak English and, when I get home Visa > > or MasterCard will have it counted to the penny. And the government > > can't even count the votes in Florida." > > > > > > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
