CSTetrasilver Tetroxide
Is anyone familiar with this type of silver in this statement?: Dr. Boyd E. Graves postulates that AIDS was the culmination of _biowarfare_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biowarfare) research conducted by the U.S. Government (and later, by the Soviet government) throughout the 20th century. He believes AIDS was developed and proliferated for the primary purpose of wiping out blacks, homosexuals, and other social groups considered to be excess population. Dr. Graves has also suggested that _Gulf War syndrome_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome) may be related to AIDS which was spread by contaminating soldiers with vaccines, and that an effective cure for AIDS has already been developed and patented but is being withheld. The evidence Graves cites that AIDS was developed in U.S. was based on a 1971 Special Virus Cancer Flow Chart that he obtained through the _Freedom of Information Act_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act) . Graves claims to have contracted AIDS, but was cured by a single injection of Tetrasilver Tetroxide (Ag404) - NOT _colloidal silver_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver) (see U.S. Patent #5,676,977 Method of curing AIDS with tetrasilver tetroxide molecular crystal devices held by _Marantech_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marantechaction=edit) . Graves, however, admits his diagnosis may have been a false positive. However, the claims made in the patent have not been investigated by any mainstream scientific body.
RE: CSWD 40 Warning
Jonathan, Ed, I do keep an eye on things and jump in when I hear something I can identify as risky... But I very seldom have to do so because other list members usually do the job of pointing out potential hazards before I do, as they have in this thread. Be well, Mike D. JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWD 40 Warning
JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWD 40 Warning
The teaser advertising the book looks like they are in favor of wd40. I did not buy the book. In past years RD was more ethical than average. RD once refused to run an adv until the price of the product was lowered to what RD considered was reasonable. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: CSWD 40 Warning And their opinion about this practice is . . . . ? Please advise. JBB On Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 04:57 Asia/Tokyo, James McCourt, Ph.D. wrote: There is space given to the wd40 recommendation in a Readers Digest publication they are currently mailing out. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: CSWD 40 Warning There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see the link below. http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an ingredient. I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWD 40 Warning
Ed, JBB, venerable Moderator Mike, Since the subject of WD40 as a benign remedy for Arthritis etc. was brought forth for discussion on the Open CS list moving it to the OT would be a diservice to those who might be led or left with the impression that suggesting such a remedy is safe and without ramifications. mho. It would be prudent for anyone suggesting or condoning such a remedy to provide something, anything, other than heresay testimonials that would refute the obvious danger of using known toxins to improve a condition that is treatable with safer choices. Carol Ann Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Blab-away for as little as 1ยข/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
CSLichen Planus
Not to change the subject of wd40 or anything, but has anyone had experience with Lichen Planus.? It is normally expressed in skin eruptions, but can also be located in mucus membranes. My sister has it on her chest and is now wondering if it can be the cause of (her MD's) concerns with her colon, (just had a colonoscopy no results yet) and very recent severe reactions to seafood. She also has HH (iron overload) and I am wondering if there is any if anyone here knows more than the usual stuff you get when googling a medical term. And it's the weekend so the list is slow and I thought a new question might be appros today.
CSCS on vegtables, fruit's, flowers
I am just so impressed using cs on my usually fragile foods that go bad so fast...aspargarus, strawberrie's, grapes, rasberrie's, sprayed stay nice and firm for much longer. I picked a huge bunch of lilac's three days ago and put a healthy dose of silver in the vase and they are still just like when I picked them and they usually do not last for me for three dayslook forward to experimenting with other thing'sdebbie
CSDangers of Colloidal Silver
I pulled this off another group on Yahoo. I found it very distributing, not because I believe it is true but because I don't know how to rebut it. The two links in the post are to an article written by a self-styled Health Consultant warning of the dangers of CS. The first major error I noticed in the article was linking argyria to the use of CS. Anyone who spends any time researching Colloidal Silver knows argyria has never been associated with use of CS. As far as I understand it, this is a (possible) outcome of excessive (whatever that is) intake of silver proteins. Also, the author seems to have a problem with the makers of Sea Silver (??!!) which I think can easily be dismissed. What bothers me is what he has to say about silver toxicity and it's build up in the body. I don't have an easy answer to that and I was hoping someone on the list may be able to better address this. One other thing - the person who posted this link seems to be hostile towards those that make CS equipment - this is not my view point at all and I am only including it because it is part of the original post. Chuck Here it is: Date: Fri May 5, 2006 11:42pm(PDT) Subject: Colds and Influenza - General tips for COLDS and FLU Posted by : Annie A... Although most who have tried Colloidal Silver, swear by its efficacy, I can't help wondering why Jonathan Campbell - Health Consultant in the USA is so totally opposed to its use. :shock: His reasoning may be viewed here: The Silver Hoax :frown: http://www.cqs.com/#silver Silver - The Dark Side of a New Health Craze :evil: http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm In any case, it's definitely not as simple to make oneself, as is so often falsely advertised by CS device manufacturers. Best you judge for yourself through adequate research available on the Net. @nnie :wink:
