Re: CS> Ehrlichiosis - more thoughts.
The Rifeforum is a carefully structured forum, where you only contact the forum, not the members, so to speak. It's good for looking back in the archives under subject headings. I tend to prefer the yahoo Rife group. On both, I think they like to know who you are and why you are interested before you are accepted as a member. A sort of vetting, I guess. Probably discourages people who just want to wreak havoc and gather addresses? Rowena I just tried to sign into the Rife Forum, but I lack what they call a "Valid Reference". I wrote "Rowena" and they considered it not valid. How do you appear in the forum? The Rife community might be an excellent source of >information for you; they have real experts, professionals, from all over >the world. >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frexchat/ >http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp - FDS >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/ >http://www.rifeforum.com > >http://www.royalrife.com >http://www.nenahsylver.com >http://rifeforlife.com >http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow >http://magpulser.com >http://frequencyresearch.org/ >http://www.truerife.com >http://www.zerozerotwo.org/ > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: FW: CS>Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD
I live in Michigan and have a awesome doc who has given me intravenous H202 ...I only did it a couple of times but each time I did it I felt really good my head and sinuses cleard right away.deb Dan Nave wrote: From my reading, I believe that intravenous H2O2 may be effective. The concentration of H2O2 used is very low and it seems to have some effect at the lung surface producing bubbling that loosens deposits and allows them to be thrown off. You would have to find a physician of some sort who would be willing to do it... See attached section at end of post. I'll try to send the whole article in the next post. Hope it is short enough to go through. Dan > --- > * From: * Scott[SMTP:scottie592...@yahoo.com] > * Sent: * Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:53:21 AM > * To: * Silver List > * Subject: * CS>Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD > > Hey, Folks > > My wife was diagnosed with early-stage COPD about 3 years ago and > continued to smoke cigarettes. She is now in a non-reversible, advanced > stage of COPD and continues to smoke. She can hardly breathe, the > doctors will not put her on oxygen, she takes colloidal silver daily > (2oz. of 5-10PPM) and almost daily - H2O2 (digestable, food grade - > 35% hydrogen peroxide, 5 drops in a 16 oz bottle of water). She is only > 46 y.o. and my lifemate. I do not want to lose her. Are there any > suggestions you folks have to cure or slow down the COPD? She does have > a plan in place to quit smoking and she begins that this next week. > Thanks again for your input. > > Scott Young <>< > Dr. Farr has shown that hydrogen peroxide stimulates enzyme systems throughout the body. This triggers an increase in the metabolic rate, causes small arteries to dilate and increase blood flow, enhances the body´s distribution and consumption of oxygen and raises body temperature (Proceedings of the International Conference on Bio-Oxidative Medicine 1989, 1990, 1991). We are just beginning to learn exactly how H202 works. It was reported to work as far back as 1920. The English medical journal, Lancet, then reported that intravenous infusion was used successfully to treat pneumonia in the epidemic following World War I. In the 1940´s Father Richard Willhelm, the pioneer in promoting peroxide use, reported on the compound being used extensively to treat everything from bacterial-related mental illness to skin disease and polio. Father Willhelm is the founder of "Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxide" (ECHO, a nonprofit organization dedicated to educating the public on the safe use and therapeutic benefits of hydrogen peroxide.) Much of the interest in hydrogen peroxide waned in the 1940´s when prescription medications came on the scene. Since that time there has been little economic interest in funding peroxide research. After all, it is dirt cheap and non-patentable. Even still, in the last 25 years, over 7,700 articles relating to hydrogen peroxide have been written in the standard medical journals. Thousands more, involving its therapeutic use, have appeared in alternative health publications. The number of conditions helped by hydrogen peroxide is astounding. The reported dangers and side effects are few and often conflicting. Let´s look at several conditions that seem to respond especially well to H202 therapy. First, keep in mind that there are two methods of administering the peroxide-orally and intravenously. While most conditions respond remarkably to oral ingestion, emphysema is one condition in which intravenous infusion can be a godsend. Emphysema involves destruction of the alveoli (the small air sacs in the lungs). Although chemical fumes and other irritants can cause the destruction, it is most often the result of smoking. As the disease progresses, the patient finds it more and more difficult to breathe. A wheel chair and supplemental oxygen become necessary as the disease progresses. Lack of adequate oxygen reaching the tissues forces the heart to pump more forcefully. This leads to high blood pressure, enlargement of the heart itself and eventually heart failure. Conventional medicine offers little help for emphysema. There is no cure. The best that can be hoped for is symptomatic relief and the prevention of any serious complications that might result in death. H202 therapy can offer more. Using 1 ounce of 35% peroxide per 1 gallon of non-chlorinated water in a vaporizer improves nighttime breathing tremendously. But intravenous infusion holds the real key to relief. It has the ability to cleanse the inner lining of the lungs and restore the ability to breathe. We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus
Re: CS>CS storage
Terryso we make it in glass and store it in plastic isn't there a concern of the plastic leaking gases into the liquid?...thanks deb Terry Chamberlin wrote: Carlos said, >Can I store for a long time my CS at home in corked clear, amber and/or, even more common, dark green color normal wine bottles..< It's actually better to store CS in soda pop bottles (or that type of plasic). If CS is stored in glass, the silver tends to adhere to the glass sides, detracting from the silver in the liquid. See: http://www.asapsolution.com/testresults.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: CS>I WON!!!!!
But I too am needy oh rich one :) His Child wrote: Why not? He is so needy and so benevolent with his foundation and all ;>) His --- Deborah Gerard wrote: > NOT AS IN BILL! > > cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Nope! > Turning it all over to the Gates Foundation! > > Chuck > _Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious > animal on earth > > On 9/16/2006 12:25:51 AM, Deborah Gerard > (devorah...@yahoo.com) wrote: > > Dude...are you gonna share? > > > > cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: WooHoo!!! > > I WON! > > > > Chuck > > > > _The real world is only a special case > > > > > -- > > >FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT > > >MICROSOFT LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL > > >PROMOTIONS PRIZE AWARD > > >REF Nº: MIC25993189SP06 > > >BATCH Nº:1007581900 > > > > > >ATTN WINNER, > > > > > >We wish to congratulate you over your success in > our > > >MICROSOFT LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL WORLD GAMING > BOARD > > >computer balloting Sweep stake held on the > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > - > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Re: CS>Fw: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture - potassium iodide
. and potassium iodide can be found in Lugol's Iodine, together with iodine. cheers Hanneke~Australia At 01:17 AM 18/09/2006, you wrote: sski is potassium iodide, jim Bill Missett wrote: To Jim, Craig, Mike, Zeb, Harold and Hannah: Many thanks for your suggestions. I have some DMSO and will start applying immediately. What is SSKI? Bill ur message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 15/09/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 15/09/2006
Re: CS>silver comparisons
In terms of particle size how does this compare to homemade CS. BY the way anybdy knows how Argentum 23 is made. Ode Coyote wrote: Argentum 23 is ionic silver at around 15 PPM If you make ionic silver at around 15 PPM the equivalency is one to one. Ions don't come with brand labels. ode At 02:06 PM 9/11/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know how much silver Argentum 23 equals how much quality >homemade silver? If Nancy is still on the list I know she's famaliar with >both but the e-mail I have for is not working. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/443 - Release Date: 9/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/443 - Release Date: 9/11/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: CS>Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD
Dear Scott, If your wife chooses to continue to smoke, it will kill her no matter how helpful any therapy is that anyone might suggest. I know you know that, but I have to say it anyway. I understand addiction at least to the extent that I experience it with food. It is, finally, to choose whether to live or die. You have to make that decision every day, every hour. No one can do it for you. In addition to the other very good suggestions you are receiving, Google the search terms 'Linus Pauling therapy patent' and you will bring up an immense number of hits. Familiarize yourself with the details of this protocol and the anecdotes regarding results in cardiovascular disease. It ought to give your wife hope that she can recover much of what she has lost, if she chooses to live. Scott, I pray you'll both have long years yet together. Be well! Mike D. > Hey, Folks > > My wife was diagnosed with early-stage COPD about 3 years ago and > continued to smoke cigarettes. She is now in a non-reversible, > advanced stage of COPD and continues to smoke. She can hardly > breathe, the doctors will not put her on oxygen, she takes colloidal > silver daily (2oz. of 5-10PPM) and almost daily - H2O2 (digestable, > food grade - 35% hydrogen peroxide, 5 drops in a 16 oz bottle of > water). She is only 46 y.o. and my lifemate. I do not want to lose > her. Are there any suggestions you folks have to cure or slow down > the COPD? She does have a plan in place to quit smoking and she > begins that this next week. Thanks again for your input. > > Scott Young <>< [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>I WON!!!!!
Why not? He is so needy and so benevolent with his foundation and all ;>) His --- Deborah Gerard wrote: > NOT AS IN BILL! > > cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Nope! > Turning it all over to the Gates Foundation! > > Chuck > _Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious > animal on earth > > On 9/16/2006 12:25:51 AM, Deborah Gerard > (devorah...@yahoo.com) wrote: > > Dude...are you gonna share? > > > > cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: WooHoo!!! > > I WON! > > > > Chuck > > > > _The real world is only a special case > > > > > -- > > >FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT > > >MICROSOFT LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL > > >PROMOTIONS PRIZE AWARD > > >REF Nº: MIC25993189SP06 > > >BATCH Nº:1007581900 > > > > > >ATTN WINNER, > > > > > >We wish to congratulate you over your success in > our > > >MICROSOFT LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL WORLD GAMING > BOARD > > >computer balloting Sweep stake held on the > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > - > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CS>Re: FW: CS>Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD
From my reading, I believe that intravenous H2O2 may be effective. The concentration of H2O2 used is very low and it seems to have some effect at the lung surface producing bubbling that loosens deposits and allows them to be thrown off. You would have to find a physician of some sort who would be willing to do it... See attached section at end of post. I'll try to send the whole article in the next post. Hope it is short enough to go through. Dan --- * From: * Scott[SMTP:scottie592...@yahoo.com] * Sent: * Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:53:21 AM * To: * Silver List * Subject: * CS>Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD Hey, Folks My wife was diagnosed with early-stage COPD about 3 years ago and continued to smoke cigarettes. She is now in a non-reversible, advanced stage of COPD and continues to smoke. She can hardly breathe, the doctors will not put her on oxygen, she takes colloidal silver daily (2oz. of 5-10PPM) and almost daily - H2O2 (digestable, food grade - 35% hydrogen peroxide, 5 drops in a 16 oz bottle of water). She is only 46 y.o. and my lifemate. I do not want to lose her. Are there any suggestions you folks have to cure or slow down the COPD? She does have a plan in place to quit smoking and she begins that this next week. Thanks again for your input. Scott Young <>< Dr. Farr has shown that hydrogen peroxide stimulates enzyme systems throughout the body. This triggers an increase in the metabolic rate, causes small arteries to dilate and increase blood flow, enhances the body´s distribution and consumption of oxygen and raises body temperature (Proceedings of the International Conference on Bio-Oxidative Medicine 1989, 1990, 1991). We are just beginning to learn exactly how H202 works. It was reported to work as far back as 1920. The English medical journal, Lancet, then reported that intravenous infusion was used successfully to treat pneumonia in the epidemic following World War I. In the 1940´s Father Richard Willhelm, the pioneer in promoting peroxide use, reported on the compound being used extensively to treat everything from bacterial-related mental illness to skin disease and polio. Father Willhelm is the founder of "Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxide" (ECHO, a nonprofit organization dedicated to educating the public on the safe use and therapeutic benefits of hydrogen peroxide.) Much of the interest in hydrogen peroxide waned in the 1940´s when prescription medications came on the scene. Since that time there has been little economic interest in funding peroxide research. After all, it is dirt cheap and non-patentable. Even still, in the last 25 years, over 7,700 articles relating to hydrogen peroxide have been written in the standard medical journals. Thousands more, involving its therapeutic use, have appeared in alternative health publications. The number of conditions helped by hydrogen peroxide is astounding. The reported dangers and side effects are few and often conflicting. Let´s look at several conditions that seem to respond especially well to H202 therapy. First, keep in mind that there are two methods of administering the peroxide-orally and intravenously. While most conditions respond remarkably to oral ingestion, emphysema is one condition in which intravenous infusion can be a godsend. Emphysema involves destruction of the alveoli (the small air sacs in the lungs). Although chemical fumes and other irritants can cause the destruction, it is most often the result of smoking. As the disease progresses, the patient finds it more and more difficult to breathe. A wheel chair and supplemental oxygen become necessary as the disease progresses. Lack of adequate oxygen reaching the tissues forces the heart to pump more forcefully. This leads to high blood pressure, enlargement of the heart itself and eventually heart failure. Conventional medicine offers little help for emphysema. There is no cure. The best that can be hoped for is symptomatic relief and the prevention of any serious complications that might result in death. H202 therapy can offer more. Using 1 ounce of 35% peroxide per 1 gallon of non-chlorinated water in a vaporizer improves nighttime breathing tremendously. But intravenous infusion holds the real key to relief. It has the ability to cleanse the inner lining of the lungs and restore the ability to breathe. We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers to this as the "Alka-Seltzer effect.") The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off. As the pero
Re: CS>colloidal platinum
www.acufinder.com - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: Re: CS>colloidal platinum Hello, I have a friend who was experiencing major hot flashes and sweating. She told me she changed her diet and the problem was reduced significantly. Last I heard, whatever symptoms were flaring are gone. E. From: Kandee Edge Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>colloidal platinum Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 06:12:44 -0700 (PDT) I don't know...I suppose she should find out. She's just started menopause really hard in the last 6 months and the headaches are ruling her life. Everything revolves around them. She's been taking some medication, but she wants to come off it because she's not suppose to take it but 7 times a month and she needs something everyday practically. I'll ask her if she's had a doctor mention the manganese...as far as the neck alignment...she's never seen a chiropractor, so it's possible too. She never had the headaches until menopause started, so that's why she never considered any neck problems. Kandee --- Deborah Gerard wrote: > Your mom isn't lacking in maganse or her neck is out > of alignment maybe?...debbie > > Kandee Edge wrote: Does > anyone know anything about colloidal platinum? > My mom read something about it's effects on curing > menopausal headaches. I've only read about silver, > how do the other metals measure up as a colloidal? > > Kandee > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > - > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > PC-to-Phone call rates. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006
Re: CS>Re: FW: CS>HVAC CS
Hi Dan, I am aware of this. I am trying to get myself some electrodes thanks. Now that you have brought it to my attention I will make greater effort to achieve this. Thanks again. Dan Nave wrote: Xeender wrote: > --- > * From: * Xeender[SMTP:xeender_gro...@yahoo.com] > * Sent: * Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:03:35 PM > * To: * silver-list@eskimo.com > * Subject: * CS>HVAC CS > > Does anybody know where I can find reliable information on HVAC or DC > systems for generating CS. > I wish to experiment with this type of CS generation. > Thanks. __ Xeender, Here is a method for a high voltage CS maker. If you are not familiar with using high voltage electricity, I caution you to NOT attempt this method because high voltage can kill you. This is a serious warning... (Method from Duncan Crow) Also, "Ole Bob" described a similar method in his CS book. See below: CHEAP HOMEMADE HIGH-VOLUME COLLOIDAL SILVER MAKER Posted on Saturday 14 September @ 14:20:14 | | You want the capacity to make 40 quarts of strong Colloidal Silver an hour with a machine you can easily build in an hour?? This unit makes about 35 or 36 PPM CS using distilled and about 42 PPM with reverse osmosis water. It has worked reliably for years, the primarily ionic silver it generates has saved lives, and although I sell the stuff on my website for a fraction of the cost of the competition, I also tell you right here how to make your own machine for peanuts. For the power, this is about the simplest unit you could ever build. The unit makes 1 liter of 42 PPM in 1.5 minutes or less using reverse osmosis water; with this kind of power,continuous production is possible with a spaghetti tube adding and removing water at a trickle. I have re-wired a microwave oven to make my CS. It gives about 3600 volts pulsed DC current. I use an rolled-out piece of fine silver bar 5.25 inches long and 1.25 wide for the electrode. This allows reduced power DENSITY and still lots of power. The electrodes are spaced parallel for a wide-mouth jar, about 2.25 apart, giving ample RESISTANCE to the current. There are 2 wires going to the magnetron. When you disconnect the magnetron you'll only be using the heavier wire from the capacitor; the silver electrode usually goes to chassis ground to complete the circuit. The other electrode is copper wire. If you're not running 120 volts the wiring inside may be a bit different. I'm not an electrician but I found using the high-voltage wire and bypassing or removing the magnetron easy to do. The magnetron can be broken apart to give you 2 useful-sized ceramic magnets for magnetizing water or something. Get someone a bit adept at the job and make sure (s)he bleeds the capacitor properly. Space the electrodes parallel with a plastic lid and plastic spacer; at that voltage you have to ensure the electrodes never touch. The wires go inside the oven to the make the CS. (Hint: for the the smaller microwave ovens, lay them on their side so you can get a decent sized jar inside) The first CS maker done this way will take perhaps an hour, the rest, 20 minutes, and makes the old (free) microwave into a much more noble device than it was new. The safeties and timer still work and it only operates when the door is shut. Total cost, a bit of high-voltage wire and the one-ounce rolled-out silver ingot, is well under $40 CDN, and I used expensive copper-core spark plug wires for the high-voltage part. The CS remains clear (not yellow, not cloudy) for many months unless it's somehow tainted. If I make it any stronger it can trigger easily and plate the inside of the jar with silver. Don't ask for a diagram. If you need a diagram for this you shouldn't be in there. Get a friend to do it. Keep in mind that the dangerous part is in the construction, not the use of the beast, and be stupid at your own risk. Go ahead and circulate this note. Duncan Crow -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
RE: CS>CS storage
Thank you, Terry, We at home do not consume any type of soda pops, but there should not be any problem at all collecting them from practically everybody else!!! That also answers the other part of my question regarding shipment. Regards, Carlos From: Terry Chamberlin Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS storage Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Carlos said, >Can I store for a long time my CS at home in corked clear, amber and/or, even more common, dark green color normal wine bottles..< It's actually better to store CS in soda pop bottles (or that type of plasic). If CS is stored in glass, the silver tends to adhere to the glass sides, detracting from the silver in the liquid. See: http://www.asapsolution.com/testresults.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: CS> Ehrlichiosis - more thoughts.
Rowena, I just tried to sign into the Rife Forum, but I lack what they call a "Valid Reference". I wrote "Rowena" and they considered it not valid. How do you appear in the forum? Carlos From: "Rowena" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS> Ehrlichiosis - more thoughts. Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:50:26 +0800 Carlos, I had a look at the frequencies available on the Frex program, and although they don't have Ehrlichiosis, they do have Rickettsia ( 129, 632, 943, 1062, 549, 720, 726, 521.2, 2084.8, 4170, ). Rather than try to explain anything about it, I'll direct you to some sites. Some of the people on this CS forum are experts and will be a far better source of help than I, but it is rather off topic for this group, tolerant though Mike is of our wanderings. The Rife community might be an excellent source of information for you; they have real experts, professionals, from all over the world. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frexchat/ http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp - FDS http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/ http://www.rifeforum.com http://www.royalrife.com http://www.nenahsylver.com http://rifeforlife.com http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow http://magpulser.com http://frequencyresearch.org/ http://www.truerife.com http://www.zerozerotwo.org/ Re homeopathy - one could also make one's own remedies, but the question is, using what? I have read about people making preparations from their own blood or urine, using the homeopathic method. I think if I were desperate enough I might try the urine one, probably by mixing a small quantity in alcohol, then doing the homeopathic succussion process on that until there was no more of the original substance left, just the frequencies or memory or whatever one wants to call the product. Another way might be to use a flea or tick from a dog likely to have Ehrlichiosis, but that might be a better medicine for a dog than a human. I am no expert, I merely read these things. I'm glad you are going to try the wire-and-battery germkiller; it is so simple, and who knows what the results may be. Another thing might be to look into the salt-and-Vitamin C protocol people with Lyme disease are using. For instance, adding pharmaceutical (not table) grade sodium chloride to water, or using Himalayan salt or Celtic sea salt or other whole undamaged salt, and drinking it appears to make the body inhospitable for spirochetes and other unwelcome guests, and they even exit via the skin. Who knows - you might be able to write a chapter on Erlichiosis and Salt. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ Sauna therapy might also make the body inhospitable for them, or outright kill them. For instance, a Far Infrared Sauna. Again, a bit off topic, but there's plenty of info out there, or ask me and I will send you what I have offlist. Nenah Sylver, who wrote a book about saunas, may know whether there are cases of Ehrlichiosis improved by sauna. http://www.lymesite.com/Integrated%20approach%20DAN.htm: Specifically targeted to Bb, Babesiosis, Ehrlichiosis and specific viruses:ImmunFactor 2Chisolm Biological Laboratory 800-664-1333 (very expensive) http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/tfdefense-canine-lyme-disease-symptoms-treatment.html?kbid=1222 has a veterinary preparation including some homeopathic stuff; might be worth finding out about. "Watch what the (holistic) vets are doing". http://www.geocities.com/ojoronen/OZ.HTM says: Ozone is effective for the treatment of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, typhus, ehrlichiosis and trench fever. (There are plenty of ozone experts here). http://www.lymeinfo.net/alt.html http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/032044.html Klinghardt www.neuraltherapy.com For this aspect of treatment we use pulsed electromagnetic fields (KMT-microbial inhibition frequencies), niacin in high doses (12) herbs, minerals, bee venom (6) and - sometimes - antiparasitic medication and antibiotics. The KMT microcurrent technology is new and revolutionary(17). The instruments are FDA approved for pain control. Designed by Japanese engineers they use 4 different - but simultaneously applied - high frequency superimposed biological waveforms. The interference pattern is creating thousands of harmonics which are then manipulated into the specific published microbial inhibition frequencies ( against Bb, mycoplasma etc.). This stealthy microcurrent travels freely through the body reaching every tissue. The instrument measures the skin conductance over a 100 times/second adjusting the amperage constantly (so that the body never creates habituation/resistance against it). The microbes are inhibited in their metabolic and sexual activity and gradually die out or disappear from the body. The instrument looks not much different than a TENS unit and is applied via 4 electrodes to the skin or used by translating the electric field into a vector force field using signal enhancer technology. The
CS>CS storage
Carlos said, >Can I store for a long time my CS at home in corked clear, amber and/or, even more common, dark green color normal wine bottles..< It's actually better to store CS in soda pop bottles (or that type of plasic). If CS is stored in glass, the silver tends to adhere to the glass sides, detracting from the silver in the liquid. See: http://www.asapsolution.com/testresults.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS overdose
>I have a question...if I have CS at 3-5 ppm, how much should I take daily as a preventative. Is there a limit before it's dangerous?< YES! YES! Never drink more than a gallon per day (unless you are a very large person who works out in the hot sun each day and sweats alot - then you can drink more). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>colloidal platinum
I have lost the natural curve in my neck and am working on going to a Chriopractor that will address that. But loosing that curve can cause alot of stress on the neck and upper back thus muscle spasms then headachesdebbie Kandee Edge wrote: I don't know...I suppose she should find out. She's just started menopause really hard in the last 6 months and the headaches are ruling her life. Everything revolves around them. She's been taking some medication, but she wants to come off it because she's not suppose to take it but 7 times a month and she needs something everyday practically. I'll ask her if she's had a doctor mention the manganese...as far as the neck alignment...she's never seen a chiropractor, so it's possible too. She never had the headaches until menopause started, so that's why she never considered any neck problems. Kandee --- Deborah Gerard wrote: > Your mom isn't lacking in maganse or her neck is out > of alignment maybe?...debbie > > Kandee Edge wrote: Does > anyone know anything about colloidal platinum? > My mom read something about it's effects on curing > menopausal headaches. I've only read about silver, > how do the other metals measure up as a colloidal? > > Kandee > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > - > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates. - Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: CS>colloidal platinum
Hello, I have a friend who was experiencing major hot flashes and sweating. She told me she changed her diet and the problem was reduced significantly. Last I heard, whatever symptoms were flaring are gone. E. From: Kandee Edge Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>colloidal platinum Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 06:12:44 -0700 (PDT) I don't know...I suppose she should find out. She's just started menopause really hard in the last 6 months and the headaches are ruling her life. Everything revolves around them. She's been taking some medication, but she wants to come off it because she's not suppose to take it but 7 times a month and she needs something everyday practically. I'll ask her if she's had a doctor mention the manganese...as far as the neck alignment...she's never seen a chiropractor, so it's possible too. She never had the headaches until menopause started, so that's why she never considered any neck problems. Kandee --- Deborah Gerard wrote: > Your mom isn't lacking in maganse or her neck is out > of alignment maybe?...debbie > > Kandee Edge wrote: Does > anyone know anything about colloidal platinum? > My mom read something about it's effects on curing > menopausal headaches. I've only read about silver, > how do the other metals measure up as a colloidal? > > Kandee > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > - > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: CS> Ehrlichiosis - more thoughts.
Carlos, I had a look at the frequencies available on the Frex program, and although they don't have Ehrlichiosis, they do have Rickettsia ( 129, 632, 943, 1062, 549, 720, 726, 521.2, 2084.8, 4170, ). Rather than try to explain anything about it, I'll direct you to some sites. Some of the people on this CS forum are experts and will be a far better source of help than I, but it is rather off topic for this group, tolerant though Mike is of our wanderings. The Rife community might be an excellent source of information for you; they have real experts, professionals, from all over the world. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frexchat/ http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp - FDS http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rife/ http://www.rifeforum.com http://www.royalrife.com http://www.nenahsylver.com http://rifeforlife.com http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow http://magpulser.com http://frequencyresearch.org/ http://www.truerife.com http://www.zerozerotwo.org/ Re homeopathy - one could also make one's own remedies, but the question is, using what? I have read about people making preparations from their own blood or urine, using the homeopathic method. I think if I were desperate enough I might try the urine one, probably by mixing a small quantity in alcohol, then doing the homeopathic succussion process on that until there was no more of the original substance left, just the frequencies or memory or whatever one wants to call the product. Another way might be to use a flea or tick from a dog likely to have Ehrlichiosis, but that might be a better medicine for a dog than a human. I am no expert, I merely read these things. I'm glad you are going to try the wire-and-battery germkiller; it is so simple, and who knows what the results may be. Another thing might be to look into the salt-and-Vitamin C protocol people with Lyme disease are using. For instance, adding pharmaceutical (not table) grade sodium chloride to water, or using Himalayan salt or Celtic sea salt or other whole undamaged salt, and drinking it appears to make the body inhospitable for spirochetes and other unwelcome guests, and they even exit via the skin. Who knows - you might be able to write a chapter on Erlichiosis and Salt. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ Sauna therapy might also make the body inhospitable for them, or outright kill them. For instance, a Far Infrared Sauna. Again, a bit off topic, but there's plenty of info out there, or ask me and I will send you what I have offlist. Nenah Sylver, who wrote a book about saunas, may know whether there are cases of Ehrlichiosis improved by sauna. http://www.lymesite.com/Integrated%20approach%20DAN.htm: Specifically targeted to Bb, Babesiosis, Ehrlichiosis and specific viruses:ImmunFactor 2Chisolm Biological Laboratory 800-664-1333 (very expensive) http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/tfdefense-canine-lyme-disease-symptoms-treatment.html?kbid=1222 has a veterinary preparation including some homeopathic stuff; might be worth finding out about. "Watch what the (holistic) vets are doing". http://www.geocities.com/ojoronen/OZ.HTM says: Ozone is effective for the treatment of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, typhus, ehrlichiosis and trench fever. (There are plenty of ozone experts here). http://www.lymeinfo.net/alt.html http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/032044.html Klinghardt www.neuraltherapy.com For this aspect of treatment we use pulsed electromagnetic fields (KMT-microbial inhibition frequencies), niacin in high doses (12) herbs, minerals, bee venom (6) and - sometimes - antiparasitic medication and antibiotics. The KMT microcurrent technology is new and revolutionary(17). The instruments are FDA approved for pain control. Designed by Japanese engineers they use 4 different - but simultaneously applied - high frequency superimposed biological waveforms. The interference pattern is creating thousands of harmonics which are then manipulated into the specific published microbial inhibition frequencies ( against Bb, mycoplasma etc.). This stealthy microcurrent travels freely through the body reaching every tissue. The instrument measures the skin conductance over a 100 times/second adjusting the amperage constantly (so that the body never creates habituation/resistance against it). The microbes are inhibited in their metabolic and sexual activity and gradually die out or disappear from the body. The instrument looks not much different than a TENS unit and is applied via 4 electrodes to the skin or used by translating the electric field into a vector force field using signal enhancer technology. The KMT frequencies are designed to not only interfere with the reproductive mechanism of the microbes and parasites, but also to awaken the immune system, entrain the white cells to recognize the invaders and at the same time help to absorb and shuttle the effective medication to the body compartment, where the in
Re: CS>Fw: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture
I'm still using some that's over 20 years old. Suspect that as it's used as a preservative for human organs it keeps, also. Chuck _Of course, the Constitution isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than what we have now On 9/17/2006 11:57:03 AM, Bill Missett (miss...@prodigy.net.mx) wrote: > Jim: > > Thanks! The DMSO I am using is old -- at least 14 years. Is there a > shelf > life for this stuff? Is it still effective at that age? It > doesn't give > me that chemicall taste, nor does it smell stronglly. > > I don't > beieve it's generally available in Mexico but I'll check with some > of the local vets. > > Bill > - Original Message - > From: "Acmeair" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: CS>F -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD
My husband was diagnosed with COPD about six months ago although he'd been having lung problems for 10 years. It was getting so bad that I thought I would lose him. Three times in a month he just lose consciousness because he was either choking or couldn't get his breath. I had to wail on his back and scream at the top of my lungs to get him back. All his doctor was doing was giving him the regular inhalant medicines to use with a nebulizer and that helped for about twenty minutes and then he couldn't breath again. Inhaling CS with DMSO and H2O2 wasn't helping either. He was coughing up about two cups of phlegm every day. Then on one visit his doctor said it was too bad it wasn't ten years ago, then he could have gotten some iodine. If you take about 6-8 drops in a glass of water twice a day it will really clear up the phlegm in your lungs. But he said it was illegal for him to prescribe it anymore since it was used in the Oklahoma City bomb. I asked him if I could find it on the internet would he OK a prescription and he said no, he didn't want to get involved with it. To make a long story short, I finally found a place called NukeMeds that does sell it (adulterated with blue dye, red dye, artificial raspberry flavor and saccharine) but I bought it anyway and after using it for about two weeks it started to get better. Now he uses the nebulizer once a day and I'm trying to get him to quit it altogether. On our last doctor visit, the doctor said his lungs were clear. He hasn't been this good in years. He's almost 82 years old and he's out building a new chicken pen right now. It worked for him anyway and it's worth a try. Mary Webber Scott wrote: Hey, Folks My wife was diagnosed with early-stage COPD about 3 years ago and continued to smoke cigarettes. She is now in a non-reversible, advanced stage of COPD and continues to smoke. She can hardly breathe, the doctors will not put her on oxygen, she takes colloidal silver daily (2oz. of 5-10PPM) and almost daily - H2O2 (digestable, food grade - 35% hydrogen peroxide, 5 drops in a 16 oz bottle of water). She is only 46 y.o. and my lifemate. I do not want to lose her. Are there any suggestions you folks have to cure or slow down the COPD? She does have a plan in place to quit smoking and she begins that this next week. Thanks again for your input. Scott Young <>< - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
CS>Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD
Hey, Folks My wife was diagnosed with early-stage COPD about 3 years ago and continued to smoke cigarettes. She is now in a non-reversible, advanced stage of COPD and continues to smoke. She can hardly breathe, the doctors will not put her on oxygen, she takes colloidal silver daily (2oz. of 5-10PPM) and almost daily - H2O2 (digestable, food grade - 35% hydrogen peroxide, 5 drops in a 16 oz bottle of water). She is only 46 y.o. and my lifemate. I do not want to lose her. Are there any suggestions you folks have to cure or slow down the COPD? She does have a plan in place to quit smoking and she begins that this next week. Thanks again for your input. Scott Young <>< - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Re: CS>Fw: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture
Jim: Thanks! The DMSO I am using is old -- at least 14 years. Is there a shelf life for this stuff? Is it still effective at that age? It doesn't give me that chemicall taste, nor does it smell stronglly. I don't beieve it's generally available in Mexico but I'll check with some of the local vets. Bill - Original Message - From: "Acmeair" To: Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: CS>Fw: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture sski is potassium iodide, jim Bill Missett wrote: To Jim, Craig, Mike, Zeb, Harold and Hannah: Many thanks for your suggestions. I have some DMSO and will start applying immediately. What is SSKI? Bill - Original Message - From: "Acmeair" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: Re: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/message/18921 part of message 18921- "Dupuytren's contracture" and "Peyronie's disease" are two "fibrotic" conditions that can be helped considerably by SSKI. In Dupuytren's contracture, thickening (fibrosis) occurs along one of the tendons in the palm in the hand, pulling the related finger down towards the palm. As the problem progresses, the finger often can't be straightened any more. In Peyronie's disease, a very similar thickening occurs along the shaft of the penis, making erections increasing "curved" and painful. In both cases, rubbing SSKI into the thickened tissue at least twice daily softens and lessens the fibrotic area over a period of several months, allowing for more normal function. For these conditions, it's additionally helpful to take para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA) 2 grams, three times daily, and to rub a mixture of Vitamin E and DMSO into the thickened areas, also. However, if "caught early", SSKI alone will often "do the job". (It's also advisable to have glucose-insulin tolerance test done, as there's an unusually high incidence of "insulin resistance" in people with Dupuytren's contracture or Peyronie's disease. "Keloids" are abnormally thick scars, sometimes as much as an inch thick, that can form after injury. Although anyone can get a keloid, they're more common among blacks than other ethnic groups. Rubbing SSKI into a keloid at least twice daily will ultimately flatten them down to a "normal scar", but it can take many months to a year for particularly bad ones. The treatment goes faster if SSKI is mixed "50-50" with DMSO. Bill Missett wrote: Jim, Thanks for the advice, but that ain't me, babe. I stopped smoking cigarettes in 1978, stopped drinking (again) earlier this year, and I have taken megadoses of vitamins for decades. (Right now a max dosage multiple vit/min., plus 1g C, 500mg magnesium daily plus others.) I don't know what resource you researched, but none of what you say is correct. DC is an inherited condition, through the mother (she has it) to male heirs only (2 brothers do too), of predominantly northern European descent (we're Irish). I also have used my hands a lot, since I'm a lifelong daily journalist/writer. The surgery technique is brutal, essentially ripping the palms and fingers open and stripping off the fibrous tumors, and then stitching it back up. Takes many months for full restoration of use. HOWEVER, there are several doctors in the U.S. who have learned a relatively new French technique which is done as outpatient office procedures. The doctor I'm seeing is in Idaho, an ER surgeon, and he was a DC victim who found this French technique. It's done with local anesthetic and reportedly has little down time. It will be a $2500 office visit. That said, I'd still like to do it by taking potassium magnesium, and vit. c, or anything else for that matter, which might preclude surgery from being a necessity, which it is fast approaching. CS doesn't help. (Mandatory CS reference.) Bill - Original Message - From: "Acmeair" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture i did research on the 'net for this disease for a friend. he had already had the operation on one hand, and the other was curling. he also was having heart arrythmia's. he drank a lot, and smoked. basically, all of his health issues pointed at a defficiency of potassium, magnesium, vitamin c. you can lead a horse to water, as the saying goes. he just had the second hand operated on. google it, and search all your health sites. jim Bill Missett wrote: Does anyone on either list have any experience/remedies for Dupuytren's Contracture? (It's a relatively benign hereditary condition in which the tendons to the fingers become covered with fibrous tumors, which cause the fingers to bend, or contract, eventually into a curl.) I'm facing surgery for this condition in the fall, and would like to know of any holistic treatments possible. TIA, Bill Missett -- The Silver List is
Re: CS>Fw: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture
sski is potassium iodide, jim Bill Missett wrote: To Jim, Craig, Mike, Zeb, Harold and Hannah: Many thanks for your suggestions. I have some DMSO and will start applying immediately. What is SSKI? Bill - Original Message - From: "Acmeair" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: Re: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/message/18921 part of message 18921- "Dupuytren's contracture" and "Peyronie's disease" are two "fibrotic" conditions that can be helped considerably by SSKI. In Dupuytren's contracture, thickening (fibrosis) occurs along one of the tendons in the palm in the hand, pulling the related finger down towards the palm. As the problem progresses, the finger often can't be straightened any more. In Peyronie's disease, a very similar thickening occurs along the shaft of the penis, making erections increasing "curved" and painful. In both cases, rubbing SSKI into the thickened tissue at least twice daily softens and lessens the fibrotic area over a period of several months, allowing for more normal function. For these conditions, it's additionally helpful to take para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA) 2 grams, three times daily, and to rub a mixture of Vitamin E and DMSO into the thickened areas, also. However, if "caught early", SSKI alone will often "do the job". (It's also advisable to have glucose-insulin tolerance test done, as there's an unusually high incidence of "insulin resistance" in people with Dupuytren's contracture or Peyronie's disease. "Keloids" are abnormally thick scars, sometimes as much as an inch thick, that can form after injury. Although anyone can get a keloid, they're more common among blacks than other ethnic groups. Rubbing SSKI into a keloid at least twice daily will ultimately flatten them down to a "normal scar", but it can take many months to a year for particularly bad ones. The treatment goes faster if SSKI is mixed "50-50" with DMSO. Bill Missett wrote: Jim, Thanks for the advice, but that ain't me, babe. I stopped smoking cigarettes in 1978, stopped drinking (again) earlier this year, and I have taken megadoses of vitamins for decades. (Right now a max dosage multiple vit/min., plus 1g C, 500mg magnesium daily plus others.) I don't know what resource you researched, but none of what you say is correct. DC is an inherited condition, through the mother (she has it) to male heirs only (2 brothers do too), of predominantly northern European descent (we're Irish). I also have used my hands a lot, since I'm a lifelong daily journalist/writer. The surgery technique is brutal, essentially ripping the palms and fingers open and stripping off the fibrous tumors, and then stitching it back up. Takes many months for full restoration of use. HOWEVER, there are several doctors in the U.S. who have learned a relatively new French technique which is done as outpatient office procedures. The doctor I'm seeing is in Idaho, an ER surgeon, and he was a DC victim who found this French technique. It's done with local anesthetic and reportedly has little down time. It will be a $2500 office visit. That said, I'd still like to do it by taking potassium magnesium, and vit. c, or anything else for that matter, which might preclude surgery from being a necessity, which it is fast approaching. CS doesn't help. (Mandatory CS reference.) Bill - Original Message - From: "Acmeair" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture i did research on the 'net for this disease for a friend. he had already had the operation on one hand, and the other was curling. he also was having heart arrythmia's. he drank a lot, and smoked. basically, all of his health issues pointed at a defficiency of potassium, magnesium, vitamin c. you can lead a horse to water, as the saying goes. he just had the second hand operated on. google it, and search all your health sites. jim Bill Missett wrote: Does anyone on either list have any experience/remedies for Dupuytren's Contracture? (It's a relatively benign hereditary condition in which the tendons to the fingers become covered with fibrous tumors, which cause the fingers to bend, or contract, eventually into a curl.) I'm facing surgery for this condition in the fall, and would like to know of any holistic treatments possible. TIA, Bill Missett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Bill Misset-fibrous fingers
Bill, Have you checked out Serrapeptase, CMO (Cetyl Myristoleate), and Colostrum? Here are three links that may provide additional help and pointers. http://tinyurl.com/kccll http://www.handcenter.org/newfile16.htm http://www.msm-info.com/ Sash -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>colloidal platinum
Have her try 25,000 IU of natural fish oil Vitamin A, and 800 IU of natural Alpha Tocopherol Vitamin E. Make sure it isn`t tocopheryl, with a "y",`cause that is artificial. (Thanks to folks on this list I learned about that, and so I went and got the good stuff for myself!!) These vitamins make the blood vessels stretchy, thus easing the headaches, which are initiated by the hormones and their imbalance at this time of life. My daughter got them at menarche, age 13, and the docs wanted to give her a bunch of medications, whereas the lady at a healthfood store said to try the vitamins. They worked!! Marshalee > > I don't know...I suppose she should find out. She's > just started menopause really hard in the last 6 > months and the headaches are ruling her life. > Everything revolves around them. She's been taking > some medication, but she wants to come off it because > she's not suppose to take it but 7 times a month and > she needs something everyday practically. > > I'll ask her if she's had a doctor mention the > manganese...as far as the neck alignment...she's never > seen a chiropractor, so it's possible too. She never > had the headaches until menopause started, so that's > why she never considered any neck problems. > > Kandee > > --- Deborah Gerard wrote: > > > Your mom isn't lacking in maganse or her neck is out > > of alignment maybe?...debbie > > > > Kandee Edge wrote: Does > > anyone know anything about colloidal platinum? > > My mom read something about it's effects on curing > > menopausal headaches. I've only read about silver, > > how do the other metals measure up as a colloidal? > > > > Kandee > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > > Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > > http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: > > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > > currently down... > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > > PC-to-Phone call rates. > >
CS>Fw: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture
To Jim, Craig, Mike, Zeb, Harold and Hannah: Many thanks for your suggestions. I have some DMSO and will start applying immediately. What is SSKI? Bill - Original Message - From: "Acmeair" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: Re: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/message/18921 part of message 18921- "Dupuytren's contracture" and "Peyronie's disease" are two "fibrotic" conditions that can be helped considerably by SSKI. In Dupuytren's contracture, thickening (fibrosis) occurs along one of the tendons in the palm in the hand, pulling the related finger down towards the palm. As the problem progresses, the finger often can't be straightened any more. In Peyronie's disease, a very similar thickening occurs along the shaft of the penis, making erections increasing "curved" and painful. In both cases, rubbing SSKI into the thickened tissue at least twice daily softens and lessens the fibrotic area over a period of several months, allowing for more normal function. For these conditions, it's additionally helpful to take para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA) 2 grams, three times daily, and to rub a mixture of Vitamin E and DMSO into the thickened areas, also. However, if "caught early", SSKI alone will often "do the job". (It's also advisable to have glucose-insulin tolerance test done, as there's an unusually high incidence of "insulin resistance" in people with Dupuytren's contracture or Peyronie's disease. "Keloids" are abnormally thick scars, sometimes as much as an inch thick, that can form after injury. Although anyone can get a keloid, they're more common among blacks than other ethnic groups. Rubbing SSKI into a keloid at least twice daily will ultimately flatten them down to a "normal scar", but it can take many months to a year for particularly bad ones. The treatment goes faster if SSKI is mixed "50-50" with DMSO. Bill Missett wrote: Jim, Thanks for the advice, but that ain't me, babe. I stopped smoking cigarettes in 1978, stopped drinking (again) earlier this year, and I have taken megadoses of vitamins for decades. (Right now a max dosage multiple vit/min., plus 1g C, 500mg magnesium daily plus others.) I don't know what resource you researched, but none of what you say is correct. DC is an inherited condition, through the mother (she has it) to male heirs only (2 brothers do too), of predominantly northern European descent (we're Irish). I also have used my hands a lot, since I'm a lifelong daily journalist/writer. The surgery technique is brutal, essentially ripping the palms and fingers open and stripping off the fibrous tumors, and then stitching it back up. Takes many months for full restoration of use. HOWEVER, there are several doctors in the U.S. who have learned a relatively new French technique which is done as outpatient office procedures. The doctor I'm seeing is in Idaho, an ER surgeon, and he was a DC victim who found this French technique. It's done with local anesthetic and reportedly has little down time. It will be a $2500 office visit. That said, I'd still like to do it by taking potassium magnesium, and vit. c, or anything else for that matter, which might preclude surgery from being a necessity, which it is fast approaching. CS doesn't help. (Mandatory CS reference.) Bill - Original Message - From: "Acmeair" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>Dupuytren's Contracture i did research on the 'net for this disease for a friend. he had already had the operation on one hand, and the other was curling. he also was having heart arrythmia's. he drank a lot, and smoked. basically, all of his health issues pointed at a defficiency of potassium, magnesium, vitamin c. you can lead a horse to water, as the saying goes. he just had the second hand operated on. google it, and search all your health sites. jim Bill Missett wrote: Does anyone on either list have any experience/remedies for Dupuytren's Contracture? (It's a relatively benign hereditary condition in which the tendons to the fingers become covered with fibrous tumors, which cause the fingers to bend, or contract, eventually into a curl.) I'm facing surgery for this condition in the fall, and would like to know of any holistic treatments possible. TIA, Bill Missett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Containers for sending CS ?
Hello, all, I want to send CS to members of my family (secong generation Guinea Pigs!) by airplane (and also car) to Caracas. What type of containers should I use? Could the plastc quart/gallon ones in which I get the Bi-distilled water serve? Another question: Can I store for a long time my CS at home in corked clear, amber and/or , even more common, dark green color normal wine bottles, which I can easily collect from friends and recycle? For short term and small quantities I am using recycled beer bottles of the same colors, with good results (it appears!!). What about gallon plastic Bi-distilled water containers? The wine corks give the CS a touch of wine flavour, but I do not mind it. I already have a collection of test tubes filled from different batches with date of ellaboration that I am keeping as references of the behaviour of the product as time goes by. I can clearly see my learning process in it!! Regards, Carlos _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://www.windowsonecare.com/trial.aspx?sc_cid=msn_hotmail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>colloidal platinum ( Headaches )
Morning Kandee, just started menopause really hard in the last 6 months and the headaches are ruling her life. Everything revolves around them. It does not take much to Cause or Cure a Headache. My son-in-law had headaches for years, regularly. He often went to the emergency room because of the headaches. For some reason, he started taking one package of Emergen'C per day. ( About 15 different items in the pack ) Headaches relate to circulation, electrolytes, minerals ( major, minor, and trace ) energy, and of course adequate water intake. Without all of these, one is likely to get a headache. Of course stress and other things causes an imbalance in all these things. Adelle Davis stated that stress increased the requirement of some nutrients up to 50 times. We know she was wrong about a few things, but right about many. Of course the problem could be the blood brain barrier, but no matter what ails a person, without enough water, they cannot expect to eliminate the problem. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Rowena, More on Ehrlichiosis.
Rowena, Thank you for your response. So far I have not found any homeopathic remedy for Ehrlichiosis. As Mike Devour suggested to me on 9/14, I think that a microelectricity germ killer devise might be able to help very much by "zapping" these bacteriae if the right frequency and method is applied. I have not had the time to look into that yet, but I will probably do it today. In the meantime, I keep increasing the ammount of my daily CS intake, mainly increasing the frequency of doing it, since I understand that this gives better results that the same ammount in one drink. By now I am taking around a tablespoonfull about every two hours along the day, which ammounts to around 7-8 TBSP per day. I hope that sometime soon I will find several CS persons with experience in Ehrlichiosis. I am amazed that no one has appeared yet, being such a common disease in USA (and everywhere)!!!. In Venezuela the most common vector for Ehrlichiosis is the Rypicephalus sanguineous tick, which is the most common one found in dogs. I got contagied from my German Shepherd working dogs at our farm a decade ago. In dogs it is very common in USA also, together with Dermocenter variabilis. In urban areas all over the world dogs usually become reservoirs for Ehrlichia chaffeensis and others. Even though we are also affected by HME and HGE, in Venezuela most infections are due to Venezuelan Human Ehrlichia (VHE), similar, but not identical, to E. canis, and Venezuelan Human Platelet Rickettsia (VHPR), similar, but not identical, to E.platys. Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis are very difficult to diagnose. The simplest method is through the use of a blood Buffy coat smear, but the possibilities of detection are only reasonable in the acute state of the disease, and very small in chronic cases (like mine). In any case, it takes a very skilled and well trained microscopist in this specific field of Ehrlichiosis, which is normally not the case even in the best laboratories anyplace. Better results are obtained by the use of Indirect Inmunofluorescense and Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) but very few laboratories are prepared to do them. I will keep all of you informed about my war agaist my choronic Ehrlichiosis. It did not kill me in the beginning (it almost did!) and, as I have gotten to know the enemy better every day, I keep it well under control, but I would much prefer to have it totally wiped out. I feel CS will help me do it. Regards, Carlos From: "Rowena" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS>Intestinal flora damaged by CS? Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:36:04 +0800 Yes, you have a wonderful diet. The coconut too will give you wonderful healing and pathogen killing factors. Virgin coconut oil is being used to treat all manner of diseases. Have you looked into getting a homeopathic remedy? I would have thought there would be a specific remedy available over the counter as a preparation from the pathogen itself, but a classical homeopath would choose the most similar remedy and one using a computer assisted diagnosis would be able to create one for you from the bioenergetic frequencies associated with the pathogen. (http://www.taracentre.com.au/ - click on Evaluation and Screening - Electro-Dermal screening. There may be something similar near where you live) Rowena http://www.homeopathicmd.com/articles_3.html Ehrlichiosis: Human Monocytic Ehrlichiosis (HME) is caused by the organism Ehrlichia chaffeensis and is transmitted primarily by the lone star tick (Amblyomma americanum), but can also be transmitted by the American dog tick (Dermacentor variabilis). Whereas, the organism that causes Human Granulocytic Ehrlichiosis (HGE) has not yet been identified, but is known to be carried by the same tick that carries Lyme disease and Babesiosis (Ixodes Scapularis). Symptoms of HME or HGE include an acute febrile illness accompanied by headache, malaise, myalgia, fatigue, vomiting, anemia and rigors. Symptoms may mimic the flu, viral hepatitis, aseptic meningitis, pneumonia and cholecystitis. Less common symptoms may include cough, sore throat, diarrhea, lymphadenopathy, rash, seizures, abdominal pain and confusion. Untreated, mortality rate is up to 5% for HME, and about 7-10% for HGE. Diagnosis of Ehrlichiosis is made by examination of the blood from a peripheral smear. Since the Ehrlichial organisms are obligate intracellular parasites, they cannot be easily detected with the usual methods. Diagnosis currently depends upon direct visualization of the characteristic inclusion bodies in the white blood cells (monocytic or granulocytic) from an infected host.(15,16).. A search through Murphy's Repertory (20) reveals three medicines under Lyme disease: Arsenicum album, Mercurius and Thuja. Expanding the search through the MacRepertory and ReferenceWorks programs, reveals four additional medicines: Carcinosin, Lac caninum, Ledum, and Syphilinum. I also include
Re: CS>colloidal platinum
I don't know...I suppose she should find out. She's just started menopause really hard in the last 6 months and the headaches are ruling her life. Everything revolves around them. She's been taking some medication, but she wants to come off it because she's not suppose to take it but 7 times a month and she needs something everyday practically. I'll ask her if she's had a doctor mention the manganese...as far as the neck alignment...she's never seen a chiropractor, so it's possible too. She never had the headaches until menopause started, so that's why she never considered any neck problems. Kandee --- Deborah Gerard wrote: > Your mom isn't lacking in maganse or her neck is out > of alignment maybe?...debbie > > Kandee Edge wrote: Does > anyone know anything about colloidal platinum? > My mom read something about it's effects on curing > menopausal headaches. I've only read about silver, > how do the other metals measure up as a colloidal? > > Kandee > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are > currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > - > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates.
