RE: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[Cinder Ella]

Bob that information is really helpful because I had no idea how much a gram of 
salt was.
  Doris

ransley  wrote:
  Mary- 

This is very good and I too am now using salt for de-calcification myself.

The only thing I need to say is that anyone using any salt or brine therapy
needs to do one or more of three things to keep track of exactly how much
salt one is taking:

Use an actual 1/4 teaspoon measuring spoon because that is approximately one
gram;

Buy a capsule making device for size "00" capsules (if you can take them)
because 1- 00 cap is approximately one gram;

Or buy a small digital scale that weighs in thousandths of grams.

Salt therapy is great but salt overdose is not; I did it quite accidentally
before I started carefully measuring my salt. Too much depletes potassium
and that is really dangerous and not fun at all.

Daddybob 

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DEAR DADDYBOB
I MAKE A SLURRY FROM REALSALT WITH WATER AND PUT IT INTO MY MORNING DRINKS,
I ALSO USE IT AS A DEOD.AND AS A TRANSDERMAL SPRAY I PUT ALMOND OIL IN IT
AND SPRAY ALL OVER THE SKIN. HUGE AMT OF MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE. I DISCOVERED
THIS WHEN TREATING MY MOTHER'S CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE, IT REALLY DOES
DISOLVE THE PLAQUE OR CALCIFICATION OF THE VALVES. JUST FANTASTIC. ONE
TEA. OF THE SLURRY IS 1000MIL OF MC. WHENEVER SHE GETS A LITTLE DIZZY,WEIRD
TALKING, BREATHING HARD ETC, I SPRAY HER HANDS AND UNDER HER ARMS WAIT 20
MINUTES YOU CAN VISABLY SEE THE DIFFERANCE.
I ALSO DISCOVERED THAT ALL FOUR OF MY REALTIVES WHO HAD CHF ALSO TOOK LARGE
AMTS OF CALCIUM(DOC. ORDERS) OVER THE YEARS AND THIS CALCIFIES THE VALVES
BUT MC DOES A GREAT JOB OF DISOLVING PLAQUE FROM JOINTS AND VALVES.
I HOPE THIS IS OF VALUE TO ANY AND ALL.
A GREAT MAGASIUM SITE IS WWW.MGWATER.COM.
I HAD A SEVERE BRAIN INJURY FOR 10 YRS, I DISCOVERED MC AND TO MY AMAZMENT
ALL OF MY SYMPTOMS ARE LISTED ON THAT SITE. SO I BEGAN. ALL OF MY SYMPTOMS
ARE DISAPPEARING OR HAVE DISAPPEARED. I AM NOW TELLING OTHERS WHO HAVE
TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY TO LOOK INTO THIS AMAZING PRODUCT.
MARY


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CS>RE: CS.now body bugs>now salt

[Cinder Ella]

I've tried taking salt for a liver/gallbladder cleanse and I vomitted violently 
so hard and so much that I was bleeding internally.  I hate the taste of salt.  
If I go swimming in the ocean and the water touches my lips I get sick.  So I 
thought it was all in my mind and I encapsulated the salt into vegetable gel 
caps.  I then swallowed them and drank lots of water to dilute.. I 
vomitted even worse and so hard again that I was bleeding.  I have tried this 3 
times and 3 times I have failed although I personally know about 6 people who 
have been successful.  
  Doris

ransley  wrote:
  
>How much salt are you talking about?<

You start out at 4 grams each of salt and vitamin c, taken in four separate
doses. You gradually move up to a maximum of a gram of salt and a gram of c
per 12 pounds body weight per day. The time you between those two can be
weeks or months depending on your individual reaction.

For more info google "lyme strategies".

I cannot stress enough that I would avoid any corn source vitamin C, and I
do not prefer any pure ascorbic acid myself, I prefer mineral ascorbates.

If one is truly sick, one will be amazed and dismayed at what one will see
coming out of one's body.

Daddybob



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Re: CS>Animals and CS

[sol]

Craig Chamberlin wrote:

Why not mix it with some saline and inject it between the skin and muscle,
 cats (and maybe dogs, don't have them so don't know) will absorb the 
stuff fairly quickly.

This is how a dehydrated cat is treated.
So you could get a lot of it into the cat.

Don't know about injecting directly into a lump.  I have always felt 
that if cancer is contained in a lump and getting smaller, DON"T poke a 
hole in it.  I lost a mother-in-law, because an itchy surgeon wanted to 
remove a cancerous lump in her brain, which was responding to radiation 
therapy, but not fast enough for him.  He guaranteed her a normal full 
life.  Yeah, right..can you say metastasized and dead within 6 months.  
This was back in 1988.


Exactly why I'd use a mix of EIS/DMSO applied topically.

Dehydrated cats and other animals are treated with subcutaneous 
fluids...meaning Lactated Ringer's, or Normosol. I don't trust 
anything else, and would never myself use a homemade solution of any 
kind for subQ.


sol


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RE: CS>two amounts with one adaptor ( OR Many )

[CWFugitt]

Evening Dan,

>> At 01:13 PM 2/19/2007, you wrote:


Don't have time for a detailed argument, but look over the formula
below.


  I certainly don't expect an argument.  I expect you to state facts, as 
you did.  I accept them or tell you why I don't.



 The voltage is not part of the equation, although it will affect
how fast the process progresses.  Both cells have the same current,
being in series, so the amount of silver released is the same.
   OK... I do not understand the Faraday Equation because I have not 
tried to or studied it..yet.


I think I can understand it.   It appears that Ohms law does not apply, but 
I think it does.


After some analysis of the process,  I have an explanation of the fact that 
Ohms law does apply and the Faraday equation  can be true also.  I don't 
believe one contradicts the other.


Will explain that in another message.

Thanks for the message and will study the equation.

Wayne




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Re: CS>Animals and CS

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi sol,

One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it 
into their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their 
drinking water.


Why not mix it with some saline and inject it between the skin and 
muscle, cats (and maybe dogs, don't have them so don't know) will absorb 
the stuff fairly quickly.  This is how a dehydrated cat is treated.  So 
you could get a lot of it into the cat.


If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts 
EIS on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver 
into the tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 
1/9 mix is well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually 
up to a 50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some 
animals, like some people will have more sensitive skin and will not 
be able to tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually.


Don't know about injecting directly into a lump.  I have always felt 
that if cancer is contained in a lump and getting smaller, DON"T poke a 
hole in it.  I lost a mother-in-law, because an itchy surgeon wanted to 
remove a cancerous lump in her brain, which was responding to radiation 
therapy, but not fast enough for him.  He guaranteed her a normal full 
life.  Yeah, right..can you say metastasized and dead within 6 months.  
This was back in 1988.


FWIW,

Craig


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Re: CS>Animals and CS

[sol]

One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into 
their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water.


If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS 
on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the 
tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is 
well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 
50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like 
some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to 
tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually.


For more info check out
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
and take a look through the Files and search the messages for past posts 
on the subject.


Personally, I never get any list in digest form. Actually getting 
individual messages is much simpler and easier to handle. And replying 
is much easier as well.

sol


djphe...@att.net wrote:

We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old.  About two years ago 
we took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and 
feline leukemia.  This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 
inches in diameter.  A veterinarian from another state told us that if 
it was hard, it was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot 
where the immunizations were given.  He said this can happen and not 
show up for months or even a year afterwards.  We started giving him a 
little silver in his water every day and in the first week, we noticed 
his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, but couldn't tell any 
difference in the lump.  After a couple weeks, we "thought" the lump 
seemed softer, but weren't sure.  Then after another month, we were sure 
it was smaller.  Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 1/2 
inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putti! ng 
the silver in his water.  The other day I even saw him run up the 
stairs!  He hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it 
would work if we gave a shot right in the lump
Another question or request  I take the digest form of the list, and 
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it, it would make it so much easier to find and read the messages in the 
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Re: CS>CS and Stinky Sneakers

[Carlos P�rez]

At home, we use plenty of limes and lemons. We take a squeezed (or new) half 
and rub it under arms. The best deodorant we have found, it easily lasts a 
full day, and it is free, just one step between the kitchen and the compost 
pile. This might have something to do with the GSE.


Carlos



From: "Del" 
Reply-To: "Del" 
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Stinky Sneakers
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:34:05

Foot and underarm odor is mostly caused by bacteria buildup in confined, 
damp spaces.


I tried cs on underarm odor and it was not effective for me (can't use any 
commercial deodorant due to skin irritation - probably a good thing, 
considering what is in them).  What did turn out to be very effective was 
to put between 250 to 300 drops of GSE (Grapefruit Seed Extract) in 8 
ounces of distilled water and use it as a daily deodorant spray.  Voila! No 
more odor (most of the time) and no irritation.


If the sneakers are infected, then they are re-infecting your feet every 
time you wear them.  To stop this, spray the sneakers liberally with this 
GSE solution and spray your feet as well before putting them on.  I am 
betting this will gradually get rid of the odor.


If not, then it is time for new sneakers.  And keep spraying your feet to 
prevent new shoes from suffering the same fate.


Del
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  Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:50 PM
  Subject: CS>CS and Stinky Sneakers


  I've used cs to spray in the insides of stinky sneakers.  This is caused 
by bacteria from what I know and the stink won't go away.  Previously I've 
thrown the soles into the washing machine and washed them by hand with 
every soap and every possible cleaner known to man.  Why isn't cs working?  
How can I get rid of the stinky sneaker smell?

  Doris


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RE: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[ransley]

 Like I said, google Lyme Strategies. Go to Marc Fett's site and buy his
book. Most of the people using this are Lymies. My daughter was one, we
nixed it mostly this way. I don't have lyme but I did the protocol anyway.
It was a Godsend for me. You don't have to have lyme for it to help you. DB

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

I find this salt therapy very intesting..totally new to me. I am
aware that Chinese Medicine considers salt vital to health but that is all I
know. Do you have references, sources, books, etc. on this therapy? Veronca





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Re: CS>Our Medical System

[James McCourt, Ph.D.]

Our hospital system is evil and they know it. Best example I can think of is
what happens when you want to see your hospital documents to plan ahead. You
can ask ahead all you want but you will be refused a full set. Not
personally, but I have seen this several times in and out of family.
Hospitals demand that patients sign off on new and unseen documents just
before surgery. Just how analytical and cogent are you when you are scared
out of your wits and facing a deadly procedure. At the time you should be
calm and centered you are being stressed to the point of physical and mental
rape by the hospital that you are now essentially a prisoner within. May it
be done unto them as they have done unto others. Amen.


- Original Message - 
From: "Pat" 
To: "silver list" 
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:14 PM
Subject: CS>Our Medical System


> I know there is plenty of room for improvement in our medical system, but
from what I've heard about some others, ours is far better.  A doctor I know
became very ill while on vacation in Ireland.  He was on a stretcher in the
hallway of the hospital all night.  He said their medical system seemed
third world.  A woman I know needed carpal tunnel surgery while living in
England.  She had to wait months and couldn't chose her doctor.  She had to
sign some release before surgery (was tricked into it by the doctor); the
surgery itself was botched and she needs another one.
>
> I want the best of care for each person.   Butit's costing more and
more.  Do we have rights to the most advanced care even if we can't pay for
it?  For example, if I can afford the best care which was available 30 years
ago, maybe I should be satisfied with that (after all, before we knew all
the new procedures, that was what we expected).  There is no way medicare
can keep up.  My father in law had a heart bypass surgery when he was 89.
Coronary care was almost empty and in need of paying patients.  The doctor
likes to keep busy.  Today's medical profession will not give up and will
not let anyone go.  My aunt had pneumonia (think she was around 90) and
begged to be allowed to go.  They saved her with IV antibiotics so she could
go back to the nursing home and lie in bed unable to see or hear and peeing
in her shoes.  Oops, this email was supposed to be about how good our
medical system is here.  Well, they know how to save us, now they need to
learn how to let us go !
>  when we're ready.
>
>
Pat
>
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RE: CS>two amounts with one adaptor ( OR Many )

[Dan Nave]

Wayne,

Don't have time for a detailed argument, but look over the formula
below.  The voltage is not part of the equation, although it will affect
how fast the process progresses.  Both cells have the same current,
being in series, so the amount of silver released is the same.

Dan


1. Faraday's equation for electrolysis

m = k*I*t

where:
m = mass in grams
k = electrochemical equivalent = 0.001118
I = current in amps
t = time in seconds

This formula tells us exactly how much silver was liberated from the
electrode (anode) and is determined by k = a constant, I = current, and
t = time.

[You can ignore this - just use the constant.  
"k", the electrochemical equivalent, is derived from the chemical
equivalent for silver which is the atomic weight in grams of silver
divided by the valence number times the number of coulombs (ampseconds)
required to liberate this amount of silver:
k = atomic weight of silver/valence # *coulombs to liberate
   = 107.88/1*96500
   = 107.88/96500
   = 0.001118
This is from Bob Lee's post of 4-11-98]

Conversion factors:
Sec = hrs*3600 ;convert hours to seconds
I = ma/1000 ;convert milliamps to amps

So, the variables for this equation are the amount of current and the
time of the reaction.

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From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>two amounts with one adaptor ( OR Many )

Morning Dan,

 >> At 09:42 AM 2/19/2007, you wrote:

I was anxious to see your reply and comments because you always provide
the points I left out, and do a better job explaining the details.

This is an interesting applications.  I think one of two other list
members are using multiple containers and processes other than Terry.


>  Actual concentration of *useable* silver may vary somewhat due to 
> variations in the cells and
>the electrode geometry, stirring, and things like this.

   True, the units should be as precision and identical as possible.
This 
is true of all aspects even the amount of starter solution.   It should
be 
measured more precisely than if only one process is used.
I think we all agree that parallel is superior to series for a number of

reasons.


>With two cells in series, the current will be equal in both cells.
>Because this is an electrolysis circuit, the amount of silver released
>is directly proportional to the amount of current going through the
cell
>(silver electrode).  Therefore, the two cells will always be exactly
>*equal* in concentration of released silver.

 I have a little problem with that statement.  You even mentioned
that 
the processes will vary a little.

Agreeing the current will be equal, .. however the current value is
not 
what determines the work load going on in each cell.

As one becomes more conductive, the resistance will be lower, and the 
wattage will vary with this proportion ( lower than the other unit with
a 
higher resistance ).  If one becomes highly conductive, then a
proportional 
increase in wattage will result in the other unit.

I do believe they will vary a small amount, but likely too little to be 
significant.   One batch may be 12 ppm and the other 15 ppm.

>The problem with series brewing is that the initial startup will be
>slower, with approximately half of the voltage being available at
>startup for each cell (two cell brew).  If one cell is slower to start,
>the other must track it since the current is equal in both cells and is
>limited by the slower cell.  It may take more than two times as long to
>brew as a single cell.
You are almost saying, ( hinting at ) the point I am making.
We need to be very careful when teaching the beginners the theory.  The 
theory we are talking about applies not only to CS process, but all
circuits.

We would not want them to think the current alone determines the
wattage. ( 
Work Performed )
( This is true when only one load exists in the circuit )

As the resistance changes within the process, the wattage will change
also 
in proportion to the
square of the current times the resistance.

Since we agree the parallel setup will have less problems, this is a bit

trivia.

>Brewing cells in parallel will result in all cells brewing in about the
>same amount of time (assuming that the power supplies can regulate the
>voltage, and provide enough current if it has current control).  There
>will be some variation in the final concentrations as some cells will
>brew faster and some slower.


The simple solution would be to mix all batches together to form one

ppm concentration.


I look at everything as a theoretical design and a mechanical design.

One can have a perfect theoretical design and a less than perfect 
mechanical design.
Or Vice Versa,  a perfect mechanical design and flawed theoretical
design.

I hope we get some facts of the process that Faith uses

CS>Animals and CS

[djphelps]

We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old.  About two years ago we 
took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and feline 
leukemia.  This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 inches in 
diameter.  A veterinarian from another state told us that if it was hard, it 
was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot where the immunizations 
were given.  He said this can happen and not show up for months or even a year 
afterwards.  We started giving him a little silver in his water every day and 
in the first week, we noticed his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, 
but couldn't tell any difference in the lump.  After a couple weeks, we 
"thought" the lump seemed softer, but weren't sure.  Then after another month, 
we were sure it was smaller.  Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 
1/2 inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putting the 
silver in his water.  The other day I even saw him run up the stairs!  He
 hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it would work if we 
gave a shot right in the lump
Another question or request  I take the digest form of the list, and 
sometimes it seems like there's a ton of extra gobbledy gook in it and some 
messages are repeated 3 or 4 times -- sometimes the whole digest is repeated -- 
 I wonder if when we "reply" to a message if we could  delete most of the post 
except for what's needed?  If that's what causes it, it would make it so much 
easier to find and read the messages in the right order.  Thanks everyone. 
Debbie

CS>Vitamin C and Salt Protocol

[Dan Nave]

 

-Original Message-
From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

 
>How much salt are you talking about?<

You start out at 4 grams each of salt and vitamin c, taken in four
separate doses. You gradually move up to a maximum of a gram of salt and
a gram of c per 12 pounds body weight per day. The time you between
those two can be weeks or months depending on your individual reaction.

For more info google "lyme strategies".

I cannot stress enough that I would avoid any corn source vitamin C, and
I do not prefer any pure ascorbic acid myself, I prefer mineral
ascorbates.

If one is truly sick, one will be amazed and dismayed at what one will
see coming out of one's body.

Daddybob



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RE: CS>CS and Stinky Sneakers

[Dan Nave]

I found that mothballs have absolutely no effect on squirrels.
 
Also, don't use mothballs unless you want every man who smells you to
think of a urinal...
 
Dan
 
 



From: JES AM & PM [mailto:homestea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Stinky Sneakers


Doris;
 
unless you have MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) (as I do)  put one
moth ball in each sneaker overnight (or in a mud room type of
environment); then take out the moth ball, still leaving in a mud room
type of environment and the smell should be gone... 
 
p.s.  
Moth balls are also great to keep squirrels and field mice out of your
attic or house... LOL 
(I learned the hard way...3 sets of flour later and all my corn meal
half eaten - they ate everything but the vodka - have no idea why? maybe
because it was in glass?) LOL 
 
Jeannine the Baroness

 
On 2/17/07, Cinder Ella  wrote: 

I've used cs to spray in the insides of stinky sneakers.  This
is caused by bacteria from what I know and the stink won't go away.
Previously I've thrown the soles into the washing machine and washed
them by hand with every soap and every possible cleaner known to man.
Why isn't cs working?  How can I get rid of the stinky sneaker smell? 
Doris



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RE: CS>two amounts with one adaptor ( OR Many )

[CWFugitt]

Morning Dan,

>> At 09:42 AM 2/19/2007, you wrote:

I was anxious to see your reply and comments because you always provide the 
points I left out, and do a better job explaining the details.


This is an interesting applications.  I think one of two other list members 
are using multiple containers and processes other than Terry.



 Actual concentration of *useable* silver may vary somewhat due to 
variations in the cells and

the electrode geometry, stirring, and things like this.


  True, the units should be as precision and identical as possible.  This 
is true of all aspects even the amount of starter solution.   It should be 
measured more precisely than if only one process is used.
I think we all agree that parallel is superior to series for a number of 
reasons.




With two cells in series, the current will be equal in both cells.
Because this is an electrolysis circuit, the amount of silver released
is directly proportional to the amount of current going through the cell
(silver electrode).  Therefore, the two cells will always be exactly
*equal* in concentration of released silver.


I have a little problem with that statement.  You even mentioned that 
the processes will vary a little.


Agreeing the current will be equal, .. however the current value is not 
what determines the work load going on in each cell.


As one becomes more conductive, the resistance will be lower, and the 
wattage will vary with this proportion ( lower than the other unit with a 
higher resistance ).  If one becomes highly conductive, then a proportional 
increase in wattage will result in the other unit.


I do believe they will vary a small amount, but likely too little to be 
significant.   One batch may be 12 ppm and the other 15 ppm.



The problem with series brewing is that the initial startup will be
slower, with approximately half of the voltage being available at
startup for each cell (two cell brew).  If one cell is slower to start,
the other must track it since the current is equal in both cells and is
limited by the slower cell.  It may take more than two times as long to
brew as a single cell.

   You are almost saying, ( hinting at ) the point I am making.
We need to be very careful when teaching the beginners the theory.  The 
theory we are talking about applies not only to CS process, but all circuits.


We would not want them to think the current alone determines the wattage. ( 
Work Performed )

( This is true when only one load exists in the circuit )

As the resistance changes within the process, the wattage will change also 
in proportion to the

square of the current times the resistance.

Since we agree the parallel setup will have less problems, this is a bit 
trivia.



Brewing cells in parallel will result in all cells brewing in about the
same amount of time (assuming that the power supplies can regulate the
voltage, and provide enough current if it has current control).  There
will be some variation in the final concentrations as some cells will
brew faster and some slower.



   The simple solution would be to mix all batches together to form one 
ppm concentration.



I look at everything as a theoretical design and a mechanical design.

One can have a perfect theoretical design and a less than perfect 
mechanical design.

Or Vice Versa,  a perfect mechanical design and flawed theoretical design.

I hope we get some facts of the process that Faith uses.

Wayne




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Re: CS>Cats (and dogs), use of CS for

[sol]

Yes, there is a CS list for pets
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/

Since it is a yahoo group the archives are intact, and can be searched. 
As so far as I know no vet has ever published anything, the only thing I 
personally have that verges on hard evidence in the sense your vet means is
"Cadbury's Story" (in the Files of the SilverPets list) which is an 
owner account of a vet using EIS/DMSO and Acticoat (silver impregnated 
bandage material) plus conventional antibiotics to treat severe dental 
absceses in a rabbit.

HTH at least a little,
sol

T. J. Garland wrote:

I  would like to collect information from vets, care providers, and 
breeders on the use of CS with cats and dogs or any other animals.  My 
veterinarian has expressed interest in learning but is definitely a 
"hard science" type so will not be moved by simple anecdotal evidence.  
If you have references you think we might use,  please help.  Is there 
an animal CS list?

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Re: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[Doug Honthaas]

I find this salt therapy very intesting..totally new to me. I am 
aware that Chinese Medicine considers salt vital to health but that is all I 
know. Do you have references, sources, books, etc. on this therapy? Veronca





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From: "ransley" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Fibers, now body bugs





How much salt are you talking about?<


You start out at 4 grams each of salt and vitamin c, taken in four 
separate
doses. You gradually move up to a maximum of a gram of salt and a gram of 
c

per 12 pounds body weight per day. The time you between those two can be
weeks or months depending on your individual reaction.

For more info google "lyme strategies".

I cannot stress enough that I would avoid any corn source vitamin C, and I
do not prefer any pure ascorbic acid myself, I prefer mineral ascorbates.

If one is truly sick, one will be amazed and dismayed at what one will see
coming out of one's body.

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CS>Marine Kelp Rabbits and People

[Kurt Voitel]

Just ordered the Marine Kelp.  

 

The distributor sent me an email with suggested amounts below:

 

Average intake levels on a free choice basis (per head per day)
Cattle (Beef and Dairy) - 1 to 3 oz
Goats and Sheep - 1/2 oz
Horses - 1/2 oz

 

Cats – ¼ teaspoon per day

Dogs – ½ to 1 teaspoon per day



I would like to add Marine Kelp to a pet Rabbits diet.

 

Does anyone have a recommend amount for a Rabbit?

 

Thanks in advance.  Kurt

 

RE: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[ransley]

Mary- 

This is very good and I too am now using salt for de-calcification myself.

The only thing I need to say is that anyone using any salt or brine therapy
needs to do one or more of three things to keep track of exactly how much
salt one is taking:

Use an actual 1/4 teaspoon measuring spoon because that is approximately one
gram;

Buy a capsule making device for size "00" capsules (if you can take them)
because 1- 00 cap is approximately one gram;

Or buy a small digital scale that weighs in thousandths of grams.

Salt therapy is great but salt overdose is not; I did it quite accidentally
before I started carefully measuring my salt. Too much depletes potassium
and that is really dangerous and not fun at all.

Daddybob 

-Original Message-
From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

DEAR DADDYBOB
I MAKE A SLURRY FROM REALSALT WITH WATER AND PUT IT INTO MY MORNING DRINKS,
I ALSO USE IT AS A DEOD.AND AS A TRANSDERMAL SPRAY I PUT ALMOND OIL IN IT
AND SPRAY  ALL OVER THE SKIN.  HUGE AMT OF MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE.  I DISCOVERED
THIS WHEN TREATING MY MOTHER'S CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE, IT REALLY DOES
DISOLVE THE PLAQUE OR CALCIFICATION OF THE VALVES.  JUST FANTASTIC.  ONE
TEA. OF THE SLURRY IS 1000MIL OF MC.  WHENEVER SHE GETS A LITTLE DIZZY,WEIRD
TALKING, BREATHING HARD ETC, I SPRAY HER HANDS AND UNDER HER ARMS WAIT 20
MINUTES YOU CAN VISABLY SEE THE DIFFERANCE.
I ALSO DISCOVERED THAT ALL FOUR OF MY REALTIVES WHO HAD CHF ALSO TOOK LARGE
AMTS OF CALCIUM(DOC. ORDERS) OVER THE YEARS AND THIS CALCIFIES THE VALVES
BUT MC DOES A GREAT JOB OF DISOLVING PLAQUE FROM JOINTS AND VALVES.
I HOPE THIS IS OF VALUE TO ANY AND ALL.
A GREAT MAGASIUM SITE IS WWW.MGWATER.COM.
I HAD A SEVERE BRAIN INJURY FOR 10 YRS, I DISCOVERED MC AND TO MY AMAZMENT
ALL OF MY SYMPTOMS ARE LISTED ON THAT SITE. SO I BEGAN.  ALL OF MY SYMPTOMS
ARE DISAPPEARING OR HAVE DISAPPEARED.  I AM NOW TELLING OTHERS WHO HAVE
TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY TO LOOK INTO THIS AMAZING PRODUCT.
MARY
 

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RE: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[ransley]

 
>How much salt are you talking about?<

You start out at 4 grams each of salt and vitamin c, taken in four separate
doses. You gradually move up to a maximum of a gram of salt and a gram of c
per 12 pounds body weight per day. The time you between those two can be
weeks or months depending on your individual reaction.

For more info google "lyme strategies".

I cannot stress enough that I would avoid any corn source vitamin C, and I
do not prefer any pure ascorbic acid myself, I prefer mineral ascorbates.

If one is truly sick, one will be amazed and dismayed at what one will see
coming out of one's body.

Daddybob



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RE: CS>two amounts with one adaptor ( OR Many )

[Dan Nave]

With two cells in series, the current will be equal in both cells.
Because this is an electrolysis circuit, the amount of silver released
is directly proportional to the amount of current going through the cell
(silver electrode).  Therefore, the two cells will always be exactly
*equal* in concentration of released silver.  Actual concentration of
*useable* silver may vary somewhat due to variations in the cells and
the electrode geometry, stirring, and things like this.

The problem with series brewing is that the initial startup will be
slower, with approximately half of the voltage being available at
startup for each cell (two cell brew).  If one cell is slower to start,
the other must track it since the current is equal in both cells and is
limited by the slower cell.  It may take more than two times as long to
brew as a single cell.

Brewing cells in parallel will result in all cells brewing in about the
same amount of time (assuming that the power supplies can regulate the
voltage, and provide enough current if it has current control).  There
will be some variation in the final concentrations as some cells will
brew faster and some slower.  Also, in the worst case, or if many are
brewed in parallel with a current limit, if some cells brew faster or if
the electrode geometry is different between cells their current density
will end up being higher.  This will affect the final concentrations and
may have an effect on the final quality of the CS, perhaps some would be
more prone to yellow than others, etc.  However, this is still a viable
way to make CS if one is so inclined.

Dan

-Original Message-
From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 10:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>two amounts with one adaptor ( OR Many )

Good Morning Faith and Luz,

 >> At 08:13 AM 2/17/2007, you wrote:

>I am a bit tired of buying three 9 volts batteries repeatedly, and we 
>are changing to a 30 volts adaptor (400 milli amps).

   You could build one of my Telephone Line Generator, ( works at 50,
52, 
of 54 VDC ) and never have to buy a battery again.Plus, you have a 
higher voltage that speeds up the process.

 >>  Can we make two amounts of C S with the glasses put in series -
with one 30 volts adaptor? We >>have all the requirements for making
more C S, and for the time-factor we would like to create C S this way.

You are building a TWO LOAD, series circuit.

The current at all points in a Series Circuit is the same.

Any applied voltage will be divided between these loads.

If they are equal, the voltage drop  ( and Wattage, power, work ) will
be the equal.

It will be hard to keep them both exactly equal, so one process will get
more power and work faster.

If you are precision enough in all details, they might be equal.   If I
did 
it, I would use a voltmeter across each to observe the difference that
develops as the process progresses.

It is not a bad idea.

Consider this...   You could run them in Parallel instead of 
Series.  In the parallel manner, the applied voltage will be equal, and
the results, time, conductivity, ect would be more uniform.

If the voltage source has enough power, you could run 3, 5, 19, or 100
batches at the same time.
I think Terry does it this way and can make a number of gallons at the
same time.

If you don't know and understand the above, you need to study a bit
before starting the project.

I am sure the other  Techno Freaks on the list will have slightly
different ideas.  They should be similar to what I have told you,
because everything I said is "Etched in Stone".

Keep us posted.

The best thing about current and voltage is that there are a set of
rules that always hold true.
The simplest form of this is called  "Ohms Law".You can search for
this 
and find many explanations.

Wayne





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Re: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[mborgert]

DEAR DADDYBOB
I MAKE A SLURRY FROM REALSALT WITH WATER AND PUT IT INTO MY MORNING DRINKS, I 
ALSO USE IT AS A DEOD.AND AS A TRANSDERMAL SPRAY I PUT ALMOND OIL IN IT AND 
SPRAY  ALL OVER THE SKIN.  HUGE AMT OF MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE.  I DISCOVERED THIS 
WHEN TREATING MY MOTHER'S CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE, IT REALLY DOES DISOLVE THE 
PLAQUE OR CALCIFICATION OF THE VALVES.  JUST FANTASTIC.  ONE TEA. OF THE SLURRY 
IS 1000MIL OF MC.  WHENEVER SHE GETS A LITTLE DIZZY,WEIRD TALKING, BREATHING 
HARD ETC, I SPRAY HER HANDS AND UNDER HER ARMS WAIT 20 MINUTES YOU CAN VISABLY 
SEE THE DIFFERANCE.
I ALSO DISCOVERED THAT ALL FOUR OF MY REALTIVES WHO HAD CHF ALSO TOOK LARGE 
AMTS OF CALCIUM(DOC. ORDERS) OVER THE YEARS AND THIS CALCIFIES THE VALVES BUT 
MC DOES A GREAT JOB OF DISOLVING PLAQUE FROM JOINTS AND VALVES.
I HOPE THIS IS OF VALUE TO ANY AND ALL.
A GREAT MAGASIUM SITE IS WWW.MGWATER.COM.
I HAD A SEVERE BRAIN INJURY FOR 10 YRS, I DISCOVERED MC AND TO MY AMAZMENT ALL 
OF MY SYMPTOMS ARE LISTED ON THAT SITE. SO I BEGAN.  ALL OF MY SYMPTOMS ARE 
DISAPPEARING OR HAVE DISAPPEARED.  I AM NOW TELLING OTHERS WHO HAVE TRAUMATIC 
BRAIN INJURY TO LOOK INTO THIS AMAZING PRODUCT.
MARY
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From: "Doug Honthaas" 
> How much salt are you talking about?
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "ransley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:00 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>Fibers, now body bugs
> 
> 
> >> I do not understand the salt internally. How much?<
> >
> >>Why not DE internally?  It is used internally on dogs all the time.<
> >
> >
> > Salt should be non-heat-treated full mineral salt, such as Realsalt brand,
> > or any naturally hand-harvested sea salt (not Hain), or any of the many
> > "Himalayan" salts. It should be done according the salt-c protocol for 
> > Lyme.
> > DO NOT USE TABLE SALT OR SALT TABLETS. Salt drives out all parasites in 
> > the
> > body. You wll not get rid of all disease until you rid yourself of
> > parasites. You should not take this and CS at the same time because of
> > interaction risk. I've been there and done all this.
> >
> > CS will kill disease, I've done it. Beck protocol will kill disease, I've
> > done it. Then the disease came back. Salt drove parasites out of me. End 
> > of
> > disease. Hulda Clark was right but her cures are too complicated. Salt
> > works, fast cheap easy.
> >
> > DE will only kill intestinal parasites, not bodily parasites. Salt gets 
> > 'em
> > all, and gets the intestinal ones real quick.
> >
> > DE externally will kill insect infestations of the skin. I used it to kill
> > scabies when many told me it wouldn't work. It works, quick and 
> > comfortably.
> >
> > If you are afraid of salt, according to the modern paradigm, then get over
> > it. Not trying to be rude, but it's late and I'm sleepy.
> >
> > I'm also very, very well after years of searching these groups for info 
> > that
> > culminated in my use of salt, along with Lakhovsky type devices. I believe
> > that salt will fill your body with electrolytes that will make such 
> > devices
> > much more effective.
> >
> > Daddybob
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Re: CS>Cats (and dogs), use of CS for

[Dee]

silverp...@yahoo.com I think.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: T. J. Garland
Date: 02/19/07 13:15:17
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Cats (and dogs), use of CS for
 
I  would like to collect information from vets, care providers, and breeders
on the use of CS with cats and dogs or any other animals.  My veterinarian
has expressed interest in learning but is definitely a "hard science" type
so will not be moved by simple anecdotal evidence.  If you have references
you think we might use,  please help.  Is there an animal CS list?
Thanks, Noble Metals Wife
 
 
 
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Re: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[Marshall Dudley]

ccdirectt wrote:
Are they talking about Morgellons 
  
No morgellons is the fiber disease. These are parasitic bugs, and what 
is weird is that those that have this seem to have a wide variety of 
them, not just one type.  Did you watch the video?


Marshall

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Re: CS>Fibers, now body bugs

[Marshall Dudley]

DE is great for killing parasites in the digestive tract, but these are 
apparently living in the skin.


Marshall

dbl...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

Why not DE internally?  It is used internally on dogs all the time.
Nancy...



Assuming this is real, stopping it is simple: salt internally, 
diatomaceous
earth externally. Interesting that they called scabies a 
misdiagnosis. Just

what do they think scabies is/are? It's bugs, although a specific type.

DB

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Re: CS>Cats (and dogs), use of CS for

[dblack]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/

Nancy...


I  would like to collect information from vets, care providers, and 
breeders on the use of CS with cats and dogs or any other animals.  My 
veterinarian has expressed interest in learning but is definitely a "hard 
science" type so will not be moved by simple anecdotal evidence.  If you 
have references you think we might use,  please help.  Is there an animal 
CS list?

Thanks, Noble Metals Wife





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CS>Cats (and dogs), use of CS for

[T. J. Garland]

I  would like to collect information from vets, care providers, and breeders 
on the use of CS with cats and dogs or any other animals.  My veterinarian 
has expressed interest in learning but is definitely a "hard science" type 
so will not be moved by simple anecdotal evidence.  If you have references 
you think we might use,  please help.  Is there an animal CS list?
Thanks, Noble Metals Wife 




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Re: CS>Our Medical System------ OT

[Dee]

Oh and what I meant to say was, that at least if you *are* in England, you
will be treated whether you have money or *not*.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Dee
Date: 19/02/2007 09:41:32
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Our Medical System-- OT
 
I think medical care is everyones right, after all, without our taxes the
ruling bodies wouldn't make such a nice fat living would they?  I live in
the UK and have paid taxes and national insurance all my life, so am
entitled to health care whatever the cost.  I do say they give priority to
private patients, but their care is NO better, and in some cases, worse.  I
know a lot of people complain about the health service here, but where I
live, it is excellent.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
<<  A woman I know needed carpal tunnel surgery while living in England. 
She had to wait months and couldn't chose her doctor.  She had to sign some
release before surgery (was tricked into it by the doctor); the surgery
itself was botched and she needs another one.>>
 

Re: CS>Our Medical System------ OT

[Dee]

I think medical care is everyones right, after all, without our taxes the
ruling bodies wouldn't make such a nice fat living would they?  I live in
the UK and have paid taxes and national insurance all my life, so am
entitled to health care whatever the cost.  I do say they give priority to
private patients, but their care is NO better, and in some cases, worse.  I
know a lot of people complain about the health service here, but where I
live, it is excellent.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Pat
Date: 19/02/2007 03:15:29
To: silver list
Subject: CS>Our Medical System
 
I know there is plenty of room for improvement in our medical system, but
from what I've heard about some others, ours is far better.  A doctor I know
became very ill while on vacation in Ireland.  He was on a stretcher in the
hallway of the hospital all night.  He said their medical system seemed
third world.  A woman I know needed carpal tunnel surgery while living in
England.  She had to wait months and couldn't chose her doctor.  She had to
sign some release before surgery (was tricked into it by the doctor); the
surgery itself was botched and she needs another one.
 
I want the best of care for each person.   Butit's costing more and more.  
Do we have rights to the most advanced care even if we can't pay for it?  For 
example, if I can afford the best care which was available 30 years ago, maybe 
I should be satisfied with that (after all, before we knew all the new 
procedures, that was what we expected).