Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor ....

[bbanever]

Hi Cindy,

   I give my dogs the enzymes for health reasons... one dog did have several 
fatty tumors, an 11 year old Ridgeback.  They are 1/4 the size originally after 
about 4 months on the enzymes.  My other dog, a Bichon Frise, is 10 and suffers 
from hemolytic anemia.  After being transfused on 3 separate occasions as well 
as being on steroids and immunosuppresive drugs for several months, I decided 
to take matters into my own hands lest he die from the drugs.  He is on the 
enzymes as well as Dell Immune V, raw skim milk, Green Mush (powdered grass and 
green juice), natural vitamin C with bioflavinoids (pure acerola berry powder), 
and an all natural vitamin mineral supplement (Rx Essentials).  I also give the 
Ridgeback MMS (a 4 drop solution) 1x per day as she suffers from a rare 
"genetic" disease called DM whereby here spinal cord is shrinking causing here 
to loose control of her hind legs.  It has helped tremendously but she is not 
cured.   I think it is either viral in nature or perhaps some sort of prion 
disease.  Both dogs get natural or organic food in the form of Solid Gold 
kibble and organic chicken or turkey daily.  The reason for giving the enzymes 
to the Bichon is to dissolve foreign proteins on the surface of his rbc's, 
preventing his immune system from attacking them.  Something is working... he's 
never, and I mean never been in better health and his PCV hovers between 40 and 
43.
  - Original Message - 
  From: ch...@tx.rr.com 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 7:46 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor 


  Hi, bbanever,

  Are you dogs prone to Fatty Tumors and are you saying you think this product 
helps?

  Thanks,

  Cindy


Subject:
   Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor 
   
  You might also try proteolytic enzymes.  A good one is Vitalzyme with 
serrapeptase.   My dogs get them every day.   

Re: CS>Biological Warfare Testing

[Kurt Milkowski]

Yep , not bad. All part of the chemtrail program. I don't lnow why this guy 
seems so concerned by what we are spraying on other populations. He should 
focus more on whats going on here at home.
   
  Kurt

"Jonathan B. Britten"  wrote:
  http://smirkingchimp.com/print/11371/

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CS>Thank You !

[JuGargo]

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my questions about our  
Boxer's fatty tumor. I am taking many of your suggestions and implementing  
them at this time and have ordered supplements to help alleviate the  problem.  
 
Thank you so much,
 
Judy



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CS>Biological Warfare Testing

[Jonathan B. Britten]

http://smirkingchimp.com/print/11371/

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CS>CS nebulizer What if?

[Ian Davies]

 Hi Cindy,

 I was thinking about nebulizing the restuarants or cinemas or
kithchens when they were closed, not when there were people there, would
that be a problem for friendly bacteria?

Might not be a bad idea doing it while the people are there too :-)


Cheers,
Ian

Hi, Ian,

I just read a article in the Wall Street Journal, which I'll forward after
this message, and they brought up the concern of cleaning too much.  If I'm
remembering correctly 90 +% of the "bugs" are good guys so we don't want to
kill them off.  I've also heard living with an animal, although
obviously filthier but healthier.

I can tend to be a germofobe, like I hate sitting in public chairs such as
movie theaters or airplanes, and dislike shaking hands (hugs are fine!) but
that would interfere with living life.

Take care,

Cindy

Ionic Silver nebulized restaurants and kitchens

Re: CS>Silver article

[Marshall Dudley]

You are producing the optimum ratio of colloidal to ionic silver, about 
15% colloid, 85% ionic.  Colloidal alone will not promote healing, nor 
prevent scarring and ionic alone will not kill bacteria as well, and can 
cause argyria. You need both, and that is what the generators produce. 
You can't do better than that.


Marshall

kayedoe wrote:
While I was reviewing additional 
information at  www.silver-colloids.com 
 I ran across this statement in the 
freq. asked questions.


 http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html
Advice on making colloidal silver

We do not provide advice on making colloidal silver at home. Many 
companies sell colloidal silver generators and dozens of web sites 
provide information for experimenters and home hobbyists. *All the 
machines sold for making colloidal silver use an electrolysis process 
and make ionic silver. There are no machines sold that are capable of 
making true colloidal silver. *Please do not email questions seeking 
advice on buying, selecting, using, or making this type of equipment, 
we cannot provide any help, sorry.


 
Having recently purchasing a silvergen, to make my own EIS - CS at 
home this struck me. This created some confusion for me, so I wanted 
to get feedback from group members. Am I to understand that I am not 
making colloidal silver at all? If not, what am I producing with the 
silvergen unit.
 
Thanks,

Mary



On 12/2/07, Clayton Family > wrote:

> here's one link, by Marshall:
>
>   http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/dark-side-rebutal.htm
>
> here's Wayne's list of cs info:
>
> http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/
>
>
 




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Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor ....

[chaha]

Hi, bbanever,

Are you dogs prone to Fatty Tumors and are you saying you think this product 
helps?

Thanks,

Cindy


  Subject:
 Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor 
 
You might also try proteolytic enzymes.  A good one is Vitalzyme with 
serrapeptase.   My dogs get them every day.   

Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[WordsJunkie]

Hey there Deb:)

Yep, I'm cheap, LOL. And they're just about the lowest I can find on some 
things. Every once in a while eBay or Amazon will beat them but not often. My 
friends call me frugal, LMAO. I tell em I'm just cheap. I'll pinch Lincoln til 
he screams for mercy. If I came into a fortune tomorrow, I'd still be cheap, 
Hehehehe. I just don't see any sense in spending a dime more than I have to for 
anything, no matter how much money I have on hand. Now that doesn't mean I'll 
sacrifice quality, sometimes I have to spend a little more to get good quality, 
but if I can get good quality for less, I say why not? :)


Liz:)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics


  I have dealt with them for years and never have any problems they have great 
customer service too... deb

  WordsJunkie  wrote: 
Try Swanson's, Google it.

They have good products at decent prices.


- Original Message - 
From: "Clayton Family" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics


> Thanks. I looked, but they don't carry it. Oh well. I guess I will 
> stick with Primal Defense for now.
> 
> On Dec 2, 2007, at 5:28 PM, faith gagne wrote:
> 
>> Try Vita Cost online. Google it.
>>
>> Faith G.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:36 PM
>> Subject: CS>Nature's biotics
>>
>>
>>> I was just about to buy some, when it hit me that I was about to pay 
>>> nearly 50 bucks for a small bottle of 
> 
> 
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> 
>> 
> 
>






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Re: CS>sebaceous cysts

[Dee]

I thought the little fatty bumps around the eyes were called milia? Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: jessie70 

Date: 04/12/2007 18:31:00 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CS>sebaceous cysts 

 

Are these the same fatty growths you have been discussing? If so I know they
are harmless although depending on where they are located you may want them
removed for cosmetic reasons. My aunt had tiny ones all around her eyes and
I know a dermatologist who would just put a needle in them to drain any
fluid. I don't know how safe it is to have a needle inserted around the eye
though... Jess 

 


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CS>sebaceous cysts

[jessie70]

Are these the same fatty growths you have been discussing? If so I know they
are harmless although depending on where they are located you may want them
removed for cosmetic reasons. My aunt had tiny ones  all around her eyes and
I know a dermatologist who would just put a needle in them to drain any
fluid. I don't know how safe it is to have a needle inserted around the eye
though... Jess

Re: CS>CS

[sol]

Personally, my opinion is that many people with allergies (particularly 
respiratory allergies) have chronic infections of bacteria, virus, or 
fungus such as chronic mold infection deep in the sinuses. This doesn't 
account for all allergic reactions, but CS would certainly help with 
those due to chronic infections. I personally don't believe CS does 
anything to the immune system but lighten the load. The trick is to get 
the infectious load down to where the person's immune system can control 
or eliminate it, or to use enough silver, delivered to the source of the 
infection to knock it out if the immune system cannot function adequately.
A vet once told me no antibiotic (conventional) will ever kill any 
infection completely, that at some point the body's immune system must 
kick in and finish the infection off, or keep it under control. If the 
immune system cannot, then the infection will always return and probably 
the pathogens will develop resistance to the antibiotic over time.
I imagine that the same might be the case with at least some infections 
and silver. But the good side is silver is non-toxic, doesn't have the 
adverse effects of conventional abx, and if you make your own, you can 
take/use all you need for as long as you want or need it.

sol

Dee wrote:

So you think it could help allergic reactions then Kathryn?  I didn't think
it could but then, CS helps in all sorts of ways that you wouldn't think, i
e.. My friend was taking it for a sore throat, and the swelling she got in
her feet at night stopped!  I can't explain it either!  

I think I must have had an infected gland or something, as I had the weird 
bubble' in my cheek, but I don't really know what it was, only that it
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Re: CS>Silver article

[faith gagne]

All colloidal silver begins life as an ion.  

Of course they won't provide advice on making CS at home.  they want you to buy 
it from them.

Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: kayedoe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:06 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Silver article


  While I was reviewing additional information at  www.silver-colloids.com I 
ran across this statement in the freq. asked questions. 

   http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html
  Advice on making colloidal silver 

  We do not provide advice on making colloidal silver at home. Many companies 
sell colloidal silver generators and dozens of web sites provide information 
for experimenters and home hobbyists. All the machines sold for making 
colloidal silver use an electrolysis process and make ionic silver. There are 
no machines sold that are capable of making true colloidal silver. Please do 
not email questions seeking advice on buying, selecting, using, or making this 
type of equipment, we cannot provide any help, sorry. 
  

  Having recently purchasing a silvergen, to make my own EIS - CS at home this 
struck me. This created some confusion for me, so I wanted to get feedback from 
group members. Am I to understand that I am not making colloidal silver at all? 
If not, what am I producing with the silvergen unit. 

  Thanks, 
  Mary



  On 12/2/07, Clayton Family  wrote:
  > here's one link, by Marshall:
  > 
  >   http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/dark-side-rebutal.htm
  > 
  > here's Wayne's list of cs info:
  > 
  > http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/
  > 
  > 
   

Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[Deborah Gerard]

I have dealt with them for years and never have any problems they have great 
customer service too... deb

WordsJunkie  wrote:  Try Swanson's, Google it.

They have good products at decent prices.


- Original Message - 
From: "Clayton Family" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics


> Thanks. I looked, but they don't carry it. Oh well. I guess I will 
> stick with Primal Defense for now.
> 
> On Dec 2, 2007, at 5:28 PM, faith gagne wrote:
> 
>> Try Vita Cost online. Google it.
>>
>> Faith G.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:36 PM
>> Subject: CS>Nature's biotics
>>
>>
>>> I was just about to buy some, when it hit me that I was about to pay 
>>> nearly 50 bucks for a small bottle of 
> 
> 
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> 
>> 
> 
>



   
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CS>Christmas Trees

[Marshall Dudley]

Everyone remember that using colloidal silver to water your tree will 
make it last for months, probably in excess of 6 months if you were to 
keep it that long. Best tree preservative there is.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Silver article

[Clayton Family]

Hi Mary,

The people that are selling that want you to believe that ionic silver 
is not as good as a colloid. This is not true. Ionic silver works very 
well.  There is the confusion because of the terminology, not to 
mention the selling hype.


If you look it up, a colloid is a size term. Like mm, or inches- really 
more like sand, silt, clay, colloid. These are all size designations. A 
colloidal particle can be made of anything at all, just a small enough 
size. You can buy colloidal oatmeal at the drugstore for your skin. So 
a colloid of silver is a very small particle of silver. This is much 
bigger than an ion of silver, which is one atom of silver. Tiny.


You are making ionic silver, which many on this list call Electrically 
Isolated Silver, to distinguish it from the colloid particle silver.  
In your jar there is probably 85% ionic and 15% colloid. The reason 
being that ions do not like to stay ionic, and when they bump into each 
other, they stick together, becoming a colloid. If you read Marshall's 
info page, it is all explained there as well.


Kathryn


On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:06 AM, kayedoe wrote:

While I was reviewing additional 
information at  www.silver-colloids.com I ran across this statement in 
the freq. asked questions.


  http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html
Advice on making colloidal silver

We do not provide advice on making colloidal silver at home. Many 
companies sell colloidal silver generators and dozens of web sites 
provide information for experimenters and home hobbyists. All the 
machines sold for making colloidal silver use an electrolysis process 
and make ionic silver. There are no machines sold that are capable of 
making true colloidal silver. Please do not email questions seeking 
advice on buying, selecting, using, or making this type of equipment, 
we cannot provide any help, sorry.


 
Having recently purchasing a silvergen, to make my own EIS - CS at 
home this struck me. This created some confusion for me, so I wanted 
to get feedback from group members. Am I to understand that I am not 
making colloidal silver at all? If not, what am I producing with the 
silvergen unit.

 
Thanks,
Mary



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CS>WSJ: Debugging the House

[M. G. Devour]

>From Cindy, ch...@tx.rr.com ... Forwarded by request...


--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date sent:  Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:25:25 -0800
From:   
To: "Silver List" 
Subject:WSJ: Debugging the House

WSJ:  Domestic Science:  

Debugging the House
>From vacuums to towels, new products for the microbe-phobic

By JUNE FLETCHER
December 1, 2007; Page W7

There's nothing like an open house to spread a little seasonal cheer --
not to mention germs that can cause colds, coughs and the flu.

That's the sort of thinking that some manufacturers are counting on 
this
year. Just in time for the holidays: a slew of new cleaning products
aimed at germ-phobic homeowners. Advertisements for Whirlpool's new 
Duet
steam washer say the appliance "sanitizes without the need for bleach."
Bissell is promoting its $250 Healthy Home Vacuum, infused with
germ-killing Microban, with the tagline "Worried your holiday guests
will bring uninvited germs into your home?" And Agion Technologies has
enlisted Florence Henderson for its new Web site, a "Brady Bunch" spoof
called ThatsRevolting.com. Web visitors can play Spot the Germs in her
virtual house, 

including E. coli and the headline-grabbing Methicillin-resistant
Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA). It's all to promote a $15 spray called
SilverClene24, which uses silver ions to disrupt the respiration,
metabolic and reproductive capabilities of bacteria, viruses and fungi.

After an outbreak of MRSA in her town two months ago, Penny Schutz, a
Trumbull, Conn., advertising professional, bought a bottle of the
cleaner and now she says she sprays it on everything from doorknobs to
countertops. She's not sure that it works, but with two
elementary-school-age sons, and guests over every week during the
holiday season, Ms. Schutz figures she can't be too careful. "I feel
safer," she says.

Q&A: GERM EXPERT



Dr. Elaine L. Larson answers questions about which anti-germ products
are necessary, and which are just overkill.

Many common organisms can be dangerous or even deadly: Some 3,000 germs
are known to cause human illness, says John Sinnott, director of
Infectious Disease and International Medicine at the University of 
South
Florida and Tampa General Hospital.

Even so, trying to wipe out all of the bacteria in your house isn't
advisable, experts say. Science writer Jessica Snyder Sachs, author of
"Good Germs, Bad Germs," says 99.9% of all germs are harmless to 
humans,
and some are even beneficial. "Our bodies are covered with microbes, 
and
many protect us against the bad guys," she says.

Supermarket shelves are already packed with germ-killing sprays and
wipes, and textile and carpet makers have been rolling out rugs that
destroy odor-causing bacteria. Two hundred new antibacterial nonfood
products have been launched in the United States so far this year, up
from 170 last year, according to Mintel Global New Products Database.

EXTREME CLEANING



Manufacturers are using a number of technologies to rub out those
microscopic creatures that share our homes.

  METHOD 
 WHAT IT DOES 
 COMMENT 

  Silver Ions 
 Disrupts microbes' metabolism and reproductive capabilities. 
 Silver ions kill a wide variety of germs, including MRSA, but not
 some deadly bacteria, like the one that causes tuberculosis. Can 
be
 incorporated into spray-on cleaners, or built into products 
ranging
 from curling irons to diaper bags. 

  Copper Oxide 
 Damages a microbe's cell wall and stops it from multiplying. 
 Copper is most effective when it's oxidized. It inhibits the 
growth
 of many antibiotic-resistant bugs, as well as viruses and fungi.
 Like silver, it can be pricey. 

  Steam 
 Vaporized water essentially cooks microbes. 
 Moist heat has long been used as an efficient and cheap way to 
kill
 germs. But high temperatures must be sustained for several 
minutes.
 

  Triclosan 
 Disrupts cell membranes and inhibits respiration. 
 The antibacterial, anti-fungal chemical is frequently used in
 liquid soaps, deodorants -- even toothpastes -- as well as 
cleaning
 supplies. But researchers fear that overuse could create germs 
that
 are resisitant to it. 

  Ultraviolet Light 
 Destroys a microbe's DNA and prevents it from reproducing. 
 The light must directly hit germs to deactivate them, so it kills
 only what's on the surface. Can damage unprotected eyes or skin. 


Whirlpool spokeswoman Audrey Reed-Granger says that the company's
studies suggest that demand for such products has never been higher.
"It's reached a fever pitch," she says. At a recent promotional event 
in
Atlanta touting the $1,500 front-loading Duet washer and matching 
$1,300
dryer, both of which hit stores in October, the company washed the
clothes of Mike Rowe, host of Discovery Channel's "Dirty Jobs." The
steam function can also be used to clean germ m

CS>Glutathione for Austism

[chaha]

I was watching Good Morning America this morning and there was a story on about 
a boy with autism who got experimental treatment of injection of Glutathione 
and had much improvement.  Here are portions of the article - left out some 
parts because the sister helped raise money for the study.  

Cindy

 
v With an experimental autism treatment

v parents were impressed with changes they saw after Evan was injected with 
an amino acid and antioxidant called Glutathione

v His day-to-day life was filled with struggles. His mother heard it might 
help minimize his temper tantrums.

v family tried several things to help when they finally stumbled upon one 
that seemed to have drastic and dramatic results. 

v For the first time in his life, he was able to dress himself. 

v "It has made a life-changing difference. Is Evan cured? No. Is he better? 
Yes," said his mother 

v But doctors are skeptical of Evan's changes because no scientific 
evidence is available to support the claims made by Glutathione proponents. 
Yet, after seeing Evan's progress, doctors at Kosair Children's Hospital in 
Louisville, Ky., agreed to try the treatment on other patients. 

v I have to tell you, I was very skeptical," said Dr. Steven Wright, of 
Kosair Children's Hospital. 

v The four patients the hospital tested saw improvements too, but four 
patients are not a scientific study. 

v "There really is very little that can be generalized from a story about 
three or four individuals besides the interest in pursuing some real research 
on the topic," said Dr. Peter Gerhardt, of the Organization for Autism 
Research. 

v A larger study would cost at least $200,000 

v "Physicians at Kosair plan to begin the Glutathione studies on 50 patients in 
January," said Leslie Buddeke, of Kosair Children's Hospital Foundation.
 

CS>Treating Lipomas

[chaha]

My dog's breed gets sebaceous cysts too.  I hate those things.  Have tried the 
Lugol's but didn't try it with the DMSO.  My female has one very near her eye.  
It's tiny but am taking her in today to have it removed before it gets large as 
they have gotten huge when I've tried cleaning them.In most cases it costs 
about $100 every time I've taken her in.  My male is a couple years younger and 
hasn't required sugery for them yet.  

Thanks for all who have contributed stories of trying to treat them.

Cindy

CS>Nebulizer Files in Acrhive _What if?

[chaha]

Hi, Ian,

I just read a article in the Wall Street Journal, which I'll forward after this 
message, and they brought up the concern of cleaning too much.  If I'm 
remembering correctly 90 +% of the "bugs" are good guys so we don't want to 
kill them off.  I've also heard living with an animal, although obviously 
filthier but healthier.  

I can tend to be a germofobe, like I hate sitting in public chairs such as 
movie theaters or airplanes, and dislike shaking hands (hugs are fine!) but 
that would interfere with living life.  

Take care,

Cindy

Ionic Silver nebulized restaurants and kitchens

Re: CS>Silver article

[kayedoe]

While I was reviewing additional information at  www.silver-colloids.com I
ran across this statement in the freq. asked questions.

 http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html
Advice on making colloidal silver

We do not provide advice on making colloidal silver at home. Many companies
sell colloidal silver generators and dozens of web sites provide information
for experimenters and home hobbyists. *All the machines sold for making
colloidal silver use an electrolysis process and make ionic silver. There
are no machines sold that are capable of making true colloidal silver. *Please
do not email questions seeking advice on buying, selecting, using, or making
this type of equipment, we cannot provide any help, sorry.


Having recently purchasing a silvergen, to make my own EIS - CS at home this
struck me. This created some confusion for me, so I wanted to get feedback
from group members. Am I to understand that I am not making colloidal silver
at all? If not, what am I producing with the silvergen unit.

Thanks,
Mary



On 12/2/07, Clayton Family  wrote:
> here's one link, by Marshall:
>
>  http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/dark-side-rebutal.htm
>
> here's Wayne's list of cs info:
>
> http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/
>
>

Re: CS>urinary tract infection

[Del]

My experience indicates that CS, especially with some D-Mannose dissolved in 
it, is powerful medicine for prostate and other urinary infections. Drink a 
lot of it.  As regards prostate enlargement, I have found a combination of 
zinc and saw-palmetto supplementation effective.


Del
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>urinary tract infection



I have not found CS to have any significant effect on swollen prostate.

Marshall

Ted Mozell wrote:
Hi Group,  Was  this for prostate problems ? Does  c s work for prostate 
problems also can cs be used in enemas .Thanks Ted

*/Dan Nave /* wrote:

A while back several people were talking about injecting CS into the
bladder without using a catheter tube. They were using a turkey 
baster
of some sort of large syringe without a needle in order to do it. 
They

seemed to get it to work without much trouble. I'd rather try that
than
catheterizing myself...

Dan


> -Original Message-
> From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:52 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>urinary tract infection
>
> i know that we have had good posts regarding urinary tract
> infections, including bladder problems. with the archives
> down, i could use some help from members that have used CS,
> or whatever, to solve the problem.
>
> a daughter of a friend has a problem with this, and is having
> some pain while relieving herself.
>
> any responses on this sure will be appreciated. thank you, jim
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Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[Carol Ann]

Hi Dee,
sorry for the mish mash in the way the info was initially sent.  you sorted it 
out nicely.  Thank you. :)

Dee   wrote: That's a really good site, Carol Ann.  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Carol Ann 

Date: 04/12/2007 13:44:01 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics 

 

http://ezinearticles.com/?5-Different-Types-of-Vitamin-C&id=418566 

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20710626/ 

 

Updated 5:07 p.m. ET, Mon., Sept. 10, 2007 

WASHINGTON - Vitamin C can impede the growth of some types of tumors
although not in the way some scientists had suspected, researchers reported
on Monday. 

The new research, published in the journal Cancer Cell, supported the
general notion that vitamin C and other so-called antioxidants can slow
tumor growth, but pointed to a mechanism different from the one many experts
had suspected. 

 

http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/Vitamin_C.shtml 

Natural vs. Synthetic ascorbic acid: Natural and synthetic ascorbic acid are
chemically identical. As assessed by at least two studies, there appears to
be no clinically significant difference in the bioavailability and
bioactivity of natural ascorbic acid and synthetic ascorbic acid?? 

http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/data/data7.htm. 

 

 

 


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Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[Dee]

That's a really good site, Carol Ann.  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Carol Ann 

Date: 04/12/2007 13:44:01 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics 

 

http://ezinearticles.com/?5-Different-Types-of-Vitamin-C&id=418566 

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20710626/ 

 

Updated 5:07 p.m. ET, Mon., Sept. 10, 2007 

WASHINGTON - Vitamin C can impede the growth of some types of tumors
although not in the way some scientists had suspected, researchers reported
on Monday. 

The new research, published in the journal Cancer Cell, supported the
general notion that vitamin C and other so-called antioxidants can slow
tumor growth, but pointed to a mechanism different from the one many experts
had suspected. 

 

http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/Vitamin_C.shtml 

Natural vs. Synthetic ascorbic acid: Natural and synthetic ascorbic acid are
chemically identical. As assessed by at least two studies, there appears to
be no clinically significant difference in the bioavailability and
bioactivity of natural ascorbic acid and synthetic ascorbic acid?? 

http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/data/data7.htm. 

 

 

 


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Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[Carol Ann]

http://ezinearticles.com/?5-Different-Types-of-Vitamin-C&id=418566

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20710626/
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WASHINGTON  - Vitamin C can impede the growth of some types of tumors although 
not in the way some scientists had suspected, researchers reported on Monday. 
The new research, published in the journal Cancer Cell, supported the general 
notion that vitamin C and other so-called antioxidants can slow tumor growth, 
but pointed to a mechanism different from the one many experts had suspected. 

http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/Vitamin_C.shtml
 Natural vs. synthetic ascorbic acid: Natural and synthetic ascorbic acid   
  are chemically identical. As assessed by at least two studies, there 
appears to be no clinically significant difference in the bioavailability 
and bioactivity of natural ascorbic acid and synthetic ascorbic acid??
http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/data/data7.htm.
 


Dee   wrote: Opinions seem to vary on this subject Leslie.  I 
always used to use Ester C
which was the buffered kind, but a lot of people seem to think just ascorbic
acid is best, but I now use one which is a food state form from Higher
Nature.  Actually its not technically food state, but is what they can
TrueFood but it uses all components of vit C i.e. Flavenoids etc.,  HTH Dee 


---Original Message--- 

 

From: leslie1053 

Date: 03/12/2007 23:48:40 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics 

 

Since we are talking nature products, has anyone figured out the best Vit C 

To take. Someone recently mentioned buffered C but haven't seen it 

Advertised. I used to order the asorbic acid from beyond a century but they 

Say it is artificial and not the best to take. 

 


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Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

[Shelli]

Thanks Leslie. Are these the same as
sebaceous cysts?

leslie1053 wrote:

  
  
  
  actually I just took my fingers and
applied. The first time I took something to tie around my arm, but came
off during the night so haven't bothered since.It might work better if
you could compress (?) it.
   
  Leslie
  
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From:
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To:
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Sent:
Monday, December 03, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject:
Re: CS>Treating Lipomas


I am using DMSO with CS; forgot to
mention the CS earlier. Before this I swabbed straight iodine on it. It
looks like it has moved down a little going more underneath my arm. 
 
I'll let ya'll know.
Thanks,
Leslie

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  From:
  Hanneke 
  To:
  silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent:
Monday, December 03, 2007 7:11 PM
  Subject:
Re: CS>Treating Lipomas
  
  
Hi Leslie,
  
How long have you been using the DMSO on the fatty tumor? 
  
My experience about  2 years ago with putting DMSO on lipomas  looked
initially promising but in the end the size didn't reduce. My skin got
rather irritated, red, itchy, and scaly  which are rather normal side
effects of putting undiluted DMSO on skin. They are minor effects
though.
  
  
Only yesterday, Rowena - also a member on this list - send me the
following (thanks Rowena):
  
15. Sebaceous cysts are cysts which contain oily, fatty
material. They 
usually appear rather suddenly on the face or in the groin
or labia. Rubbing 
in SSKI mixed 50-50 with DMSO will almost always persuade
these cysts to go 
away in a week or two; it appears that the iodide
"dissolves" the fatty, 
oily material contained in the cysts, allowing your body to
slowly re-absorb 
and dispose of it. The famous chemistry professor Louis
Feiser made a point 
of demonstrating to all the medical students that iodine
and iodide would 
make oils, fats, and waxes (cholesterol is actually a wax)
more soluble in 
water. This known action of iodide might likely explain why
it might be 
needed in patients with lipomas.  http://panaminstitute.com/de-iodine.htm
  

  
I had applied iodine (Lugol's) for a period of time with no results,
and the DMSO alone with no results.
Now I have made a 50-50  Lugols/DMSO solution, only a tiny bit as it
goes a long way, and am going to give that a go for 2 weeks, 3 weeks if
I have the impression that changes are occurring. It is worth trying.  
The only solution for getting rid of them is removal by surgery.  For
some that is doable if one has only a few. 
  
Keep us informed Leslie how you go with it.
  
Hanneke
  
  
  
At 09:21 AM 4/12/2007, you wrote:
  I didn't know what a
lipoma was so missing this discussion but I have a fatty tumor that I
have been putting DMSO on but cannot tell any difference yet.
I will be very interested to know if something might work better.

Thanks,
Leslie
  
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Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor ....

[Dee]

I think the BlockBuster All Clear does this.  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: leslie1053 

Date: 04/12/2007 02:48:42 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor  

 

Yes, I would be interested in learning if anything you might injest would
get rid of tumors?? Wonder if that might be cancer treatments. I would start
at least putting CS in the water for your boxer and rub the DMSO on the
outside. They say you can take that internally but I don't know how. 

 


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Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[Dee]

Opinions seem to vary on this subject Leslie.  I always used to use Ester C
which was the buffered kind, but a lot of people seem to think just ascorbic
acid is best, but I now use one which is a food state form from Higher
Nature.  Actually its not technically food state, but is what they can
TrueFood but it uses all components of vit C i.e. Flavenoids etc.,  HTH Dee 


---Original Message--- 

 

From: leslie1053 

Date: 03/12/2007 23:48:40 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics 

 

Since we are talking nature products, has anyone figured out the best Vit C 

To take. Someone recently mentioned buffered C but haven't seen it 

Advertised. I used to order the asorbic acid from beyond a century but they 

Say it is artificial and not the best to take. 

 


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Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

[Dee]

I did this on a small lipoma that my dog had, but I mixed the DMSO with
silver.  He then kind of nibbled at it, and I managed to squeeze all the pus
stuff out; repeatedly putting on the mixture, and it just went away and
never came back.  This hadn't happened before because when the vet took one
off, it just came back again.  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: leslie1053 

Date: 03/12/2007 22:52:08 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Treating Lipomas 

 

I didn't know what a lipoma was so missing this discussion but I have a 

Fatty tumor that I have been putting DMSO on but cannot tell any difference 

Yet. 

 

I will be very interested to know if something might work better. 

 

Thanks, 

Leslie 


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Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2007 #585

[Dee]

I couldn't open this.  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: ABC OSLO 

Date: 03/12/2007 22:51:07 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2007 #585 

 

That article is probably "Quackbusters" - that is retired doctors ,payd by
Big Pharma to make claims on the net that good , natural things are
dangerous .and guess why ? 

So you can be sure that everything they say is bad , is WORKING good !!!
Otherwise they would not bother. 

Gerd 

 

 

 


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Re: CS>Nebulizer Files in Acrhive _What if?

[Dee]

Good idea Ian!  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Ian Davies 

Date: 03/12/2007 21:27:39 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CS>Nebulizer Files in Acrhive _What if? 

 

Evening Wayne, 

 

II know nothing about inventing, electronics or nebulizers but an apparatus
which sprayed nebulized silver into kennels of an evening or into an
isolated reduced space which each dog (or other animal) had to spend X
amount of time in, might prove a remarkable help to any kennel or zoo. What
about in hospitals? If ionic silver was in the air constantly MRSA might
become history. Ionic Silver nebulized restaurants and kitchens. 

 

Excuse me, I let my imagination go at times. 

 

Cheers, 

Ian 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[WordsJunkie]

PayPal is great and you have double protection. I use it for eBay. When you 
use your CC you're protected anyway (even if you use PayPal)because you can 
dispute or do a chargeback if the item you paid for is defective or it isn't 
delivered.


Liz:)

I know that I can dispute charges on my bank debit card just like a CC too, 
because it has a MasterCard logo:) I know because I've done it. A non eBay 
company made charges to my MasterCard/Debit/ATM for unsatisfactory goods, I 
sent the goods back and they didn't want to refund, so, I called the number 
on my card. The Card Company sent me the paperwork to fill out. Less than 30 
days later I had my money back. No muss no fuss.


I don't make chargebacks as a rule, but it's nice to know that I can if I 
really need to.


Don't forget any dispute for ANYTHING having to do with CC's have to be IN 
WRITING. I don't care what the customer rep tells you verbally on the phone. 
If you read the small print in the agreement with your CC company it HAS to 
be IN WRITING. Write it out, make a certified notarized copy for your 
records, and send the original registered(signature required), Delivery 
confirmation, or return receipt, so that you have proof of delivery. You can 
also send mail with a mailing confirmation that proves you sent it.


Okay that's an end to my .02 worth:)

Liz:)


- Original Message - 
From: "Smitty" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics



thanks, Smitty, I got a hit. It is in Malaysia, and charges no
shipping. But how to tell if it is safe to use the site?  I feel  kinda
dumb, but I am not very experienced at web shopping.


You might use PayPal. . . they are pretty fool proof.
If you don't have an account with them, set one up. Then you
can use it instead of your charge card.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[WordsJunkie]

Try Swanson's, Google it.

They have good products at decent prices.


- Original Message - 
From: "Clayton Family" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics


Thanks. I looked, but they don't carry it.  Oh well. I guess I will 
stick with Primal Defense for now.


On Dec 2, 2007, at 5:28 PM, faith gagne wrote:


Try Vita Cost online.  Google it.

Faith G.


- Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: CS>Nature's biotics


I was just about to buy some, when it hit me that I was about to pay 
nearly 50 bucks for a small bottle of 



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Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

[M1marine]

Try MMS.



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