Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

Clayton Family wrote:
Many years ago I saw a ufo in southern calif, but not close up- still 
it did not behave according to the laws of physics I grew up with- it 
did the sudden change of direction and accellerated much faster than 
anything I had ever seen, faster than was possible. Almost like it 
disappeared, then reappeared much  much farther away.  This sounds 
like it was a much closer view. 




VMANN:  aether physics is suppressed.  not only for military industrial 
considerations, but for pharmaceutical undistrial considerations as 
well.  thomas townsend brown was levitating disc shaped metallic objects 
as early as 1926.  he called it "electrogravitics."  heh.

vigilus haufniensis
wilhelm reich was disabling these craft in 1957.  can you imagine the 
shock and horror at langley?  LOL.



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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

http://www.conspiracycentral.net:6969/index.html?search=lyne&top_submit_search_button=Search

william lyne materials, free!




Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
I don't doubt the reports.These could be remotely-operated 
unmanned experimental military vehicles.  That would allow for the 
acceleration.  If there's nothing alive inside, no worries.


Where do they come from and where do they go?   There could be bases 
on the dark side of the moon for all we know. . .




On Thursday, Jan 24, 2008, at 12:58 Asia/Tokyo, brooks76009 wrote:



I live about 40 miles northeast of Stephenville and am very familiar 
with the
community geography.and people. I, personally, know three of the 
people who got a very good view of this occurrence..one is a law 
enforcement officer, one is a teaching academic..and one is an 
aeronautical design engineer who presently works at Lockheed- Fort 
Worth. These gentlemen are quite stable.objective, and 
intelligent. Each had a slightly different physical view of the 
phenomena.and were geographically located in different parts of 
the area. None of them had any type of camera equipment on-hand at 
the time of the event. While none of them could state, with categoric 
certainty, what the objects were.they were quite positive WHAT 
THEY WERE NOT. They were not flares; not aircraft of know design or 
capability; not weather phenomena; not reflected light emanations or 
figments of imagination. Each insisted that the G-forces reflected by 
the sudden directional changes and the extreme velocity acceleration 
phenomena..were BEYOND the li! mits of endurance of any life form 
as advanced as human beings (at least, not employing any 
presently-known gravity-cancellation system available to the general 
science community). according to my aero-engineer friendand 
his specialty is AERODYNAMICS. The local military authorities have 
tried to follow the "party line", issuing ambivalent comments 
insulting to the intelligence of a child. The local metroplex media 
(Star Telegram and Dallas Morning News, etc.) ---with the exception 
of the small-town periodicals, have attempted to create an ambiguous, 
even humorous, slant. The people of Stephenville are not overly 
pleased with this treatment by the large urban media. Stephenville is 
not a "hick" town. It is a city of about 35,000 people and the home 
of Tarleton Universitywhich is a very creditable member of the 
Texas A&M University system .

Brooks Bradley










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Subject : Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas

Date : Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:38:25 -0600

From : "leslie1053" 

To : 



Seems they have questioned if the real thing but I don't know. I live in

Texas so let me know if you hear anything. I live on the East side 
tho by


La.

Leslie

- Original Message -

From: "Sandee George"

To:

Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas





> Hi there to all, anyone heard about the above ? I was just told and

> googled it, boy are there reports

> all over the place, I wonder why Texas at this time !!!??? LOL

> Sandee

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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I don't doubt the reports.These could be remotely-operated unmanned 
experimental military vehicles.  That would allow for the acceleration. 
 If there's nothing alive inside, no worries.


Where do they come from and where do they go?   There could be bases on 
the dark side of the moon for all we know. . .




On Thursday, Jan 24, 2008, at 12:58 Asia/Tokyo, brooks76009 wrote:



I live about 40 miles northeast of Stephenville and am very familiar 
with the
community geography.and people. I, personally, know three of the 
people who got a very good view of this occurrence..one is a law 
enforcement officer, one is a teaching academic..and one is an 
aeronautical design engineer who presently works at Lockheed- Fort 
Worth. These gentlemen are quite stable.objective, and 
intelligent. Each had a slightly different physical view of the 
phenomena.and were geographically located in different parts of 
the area. None of them had any type of camera equipment on-hand at the 
time of the event. While none of them could state, with categoric 
certainty, what the objects were.they were quite positive WHAT 
THEY WERE NOT. They were not flares; not aircraft of know design or 
capability; not weather phenomena; not reflected light emanations or 
figments of imagination. Each insisted that the G-forces reflected by 
the sudden directional changes and the extreme velocity acceleration 
phenomena..were BEYOND the li! mits of endurance of any life form 
as advanced as human beings (at least, not employing any 
presently-known gravity-cancellation system available to the general 
science community). according to my aero-engineer friendand 
his specialty is AERODYNAMICS. The local military authorities have 
tried to follow the "party line", issuing ambivalent comments 
insulting to the intelligence of a child. The local metroplex media 
(Star Telegram and Dallas Morning News, etc.) ---with the exception of 
the small-town periodicals, have attempted to create an ambiguous, 
even humorous, slant. The people of Stephenville are not overly 
pleased with this treatment by the large urban media. Stephenville is 
not a "hick" town. It is a city of about 35,000 people and the home of 
Tarleton Universitywhich is a very creditable member of the Texas 
A&M University system .

Brooks Bradley










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Subject : Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas

Date : Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:38:25 -0600

From : "leslie1053" 

To : 



Seems they have questioned if the real thing but I don't know. I live 
in


Texas so let me know if you hear anything. I live on the East side tho 
by


La.

Leslie

- Original Message -

From: "Sandee George"

To:

Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas





> Hi there to all, anyone heard about the above ? I was just told and

> googled it, boy are there reports

> all over the place, I wonder why Texas at this time !!!??? LOL

> Sandee

>

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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

read william lyne.  he's on google video too.




brooks76009 wrote:


I live about 40 miles northeast of Stephenville and am very familiar 
with the
community geography.and people. I, personally, know three of the 
people who got a very good view of this occurrence..one is a law 
enforcement officer, one is a teaching academic..and one is an 
aeronautical design engineer who presently works at Lockheed- Fort 
Worth. These gentlemen are quite stable.objective, and 
intelligent. Each had a slightly different physical view of the 
phenomena.and were geographically located in different parts of 
the area. None of them had any type of camera equipment on-hand at the 
time of the event. While none of them could state, with categoric 
certainty, what the objects were.they were quite positive WHAT 
THEY WERE NOT. They were not flares; not aircraft of know design or 
capability; not weather phenomena; not reflected light emanations or 
figments of imagination. Each insisted that the G-forces reflected by 
the sudden directional changes and the extreme velocity acceleration 
phenomena..were BEYOND the li! mits of endurance of any life form 
as advanced as human beings (at least, not employing any 
presently-known gravity-cancellation system available to the general 
science community). according to my aero-engineer friendand 
his specialty is AERODYNAMICS. The local military authorities have 
tried to follow the "party line", issuing ambivalent comments 
insulting to the intelligence of a child. The local metroplex media 
(Star Telegram and Dallas Morning News, etc.) ---with the exception of 
the small-town periodicals, have attempted to create an ambiguous, 
even humorous, slant. The people of Stephenville are not overly 
pleased with this treatment by the large urban media. Stephenville is 
not a "hick" town. It is a city of about 35,000 people and the home of 
Tarleton Universitywhich is a very creditable member of the Texas 
A&M University system .

Brooks Bradley










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*Date : *Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:38:25 -0600

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Seems they have questioned if the real thing but I don't know. I
live in

Texas so let me know if you hear anything. I live on the East side
tho by

La.

Leslie

- Original Message -

From: "Sandee George"

To:

Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas





> Hi there to all, anyone heard about the above ? I was just told and

> googled it, boy are there reports

> all over the place, I wonder why Texas at this time !!!??? LOL

> Sandee

>

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>

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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment

[Clayton Family]

Thanks for the comments. My inlaws are from that area, more near 
Dublin. Do you know the Parks family? Jack Parks is my uncle, they have 
a dairy farm out there.   I agree with your assessment about the area- 
it has much more of a college town feel.  I fondly remember the Dr 
Pepper store in Dublin, it was still open last time we were out there.


Many years ago I saw a ufo in southern calif, but not close up- still 
it did not behave according to the laws of physics I grew up with- it 
did the sudden change of direction and accellerated much faster than 
anything I had ever seen, faster than was possible. Almost like it 
disappeared, then reappeared much  much farther away.  This sounds like 
it was a much closer view.


I wonder what they want- unless they are after cows- there were quite a 
lot of them in the area. Otherwise not much there but farmland.


Kathryn

On Jan 23, 2008, at 9:58 PM, brooks76009 wrote:



 I live about 40 miles northeast of Stephenville and am very familiar 
with the
community geography.and people. I, personally, know three of the 
people who got a very good view of this occurrence..one is a law 
enforcement officer, one is a teaching academic..and one is an 
aeronautical design engineer who presently works at Lockheed- Fort 
Worth. These gentlemen are quite stable.objective, and 
intelligent. Each had a slightly different physical view of the 
phenomena.and were geographically located in different parts of 
the area. None of them had any type of camera equipment on-hand at the 
time of the event. While none of them could state, with categoric 
certainty, what the objects were.they were quite positive WHAT 
THEY WERE NOT. They were not flares; not aircraft of know design or 
capability; not weather phenomena; not reflected light emanations or 
figments of imagination. Each insisted that the G-forces reflected by 
the sudden directional changes and the extreme velocity acceleration 
phenomena..were BEYOND the limits of endurance of any life form as 
advanced as human beings (at least, not employing any presently-known 
gravity-cancellation system available to the general science 
community). according to my aero-engineer friendand his 
specialty is AERODYNAMICS. The local military authorities have tried 
to follow the "party line", issuing ambivalent comments insulting to 
the intelligence of a child. The local metroplex media (Star Telegram 
and Dallas Morning News, etc.) ---with the exception of the small-town 
periodicals, have attempted to create an ambiguous, even humorous, 
slant. The people of Stephenville are not overly pleased with this 
treatment by the large urban media. Stephenville is not a "hick" town. 
It is a city of about 35,000 people and the home of Tarleton 
Universitywhich is a very creditable member of the Texas A&M 
University system .

 Brooks Bradley



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Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans

[Leslie]

That is true. I remember being told that by someone
really looking into it.
--- mborg...@att.net wrote:

> I do not know where but someone once said to use a
> black lite, the fibers will show up under the lite.
> Mary
> 
> -- Original message from "leslie1053"
> : -- 
> 
> 
> > I had been told it was through fibers in cotton
> sheets, even q tips! ??? I 
> > would be interested in finding out about where?? 
> > Thanks, 
> > Leslie 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:40 AM 
> > Subject: Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans 
> > 
> > 
> > >I have no idea. I simply came across that page
> while searching. 
> > > 
> > > Marshall 
> > > 
> > > mborg...@att.net wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> dear marshall, 
> > >> 
> > >> thank you for the update, this is truly scarey.
> 
> > >> 
> > >> I read through some of coffee-cup's info but i
> did not come across how 
> > >> they aquired the morgellions. Do you know? 
> > >> 
> > >> Mary 
> > >> 
> > >> -- Original message from Marshall
> Dudley 
> > >> : -- 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> > *It is time for an update (re: morgellons* 
> > >> > 
> > >> > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1079393 
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Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans

[mborgert]

I do not know where but someone once said to use a black lite, the fibers will 
show up under the lite.
Mary

-- Original message from "leslie1053" : 
-- 


> I had been told it was through fibers in cotton sheets, even q tips! ??? I 
> would be interested in finding out about where?? 
> Thanks, 
> Leslie 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:40 AM 
> Subject: Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans 
> 
> 
> >I have no idea. I simply came across that page while searching. 
> > 
> > Marshall 
> > 
> > mborg...@att.net wrote: 
> >> 
> >> dear marshall, 
> >> 
> >> thank you for the update, this is truly scarey. 
> >> 
> >> I read through some of coffee-cup's info but i did not come across how 
> >> they aquired the morgellions. Do you know? 
> >> 
> >> Mary 
> >> 
> >> -- Original message from Marshall Dudley 
> >> : -- 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > *It is time for an update (re: morgellons* 
> >> > 
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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment

[brooks76009]

 I live about 40 miles northeast of Stephenville and am very familiar with the
community geography.and people.  I, personally, know three of the people who got a very good view of this occurrence..one is a law enforcement officer, one is a teaching academic..and one is an aeronautical design engineer who presently works at Lockheed- Fort Worth.  These gentlemen are quite stable.objective, and intelligent.  Each had a slightly different physical view of the phenomena.and were geographically located in different parts of the area.  None of them had any type of camera equipment on-hand at the time of the event.  While none of them could state, with categoric certainty, what the objects were.they were quite positive WHAT THEY WERE NOT.  They were not flares; not aircraft of know design or capability;  not weather phenomena;  not reflected light emanations or figments of imagination.  Each insisted that the G-forces reflected by the sudden directional changes and the extreme velocity acceleration phenomena..were BEYOND the li!
 mits of endurance of any life form as advanced as human beings (at least, not employing any presently-known gravity-cancellation system available to the general science community). according to my aero-engineer friendand his specialty is AERODYNAMICS.  The local military authorities have tried to follow the "party line", issuing ambivalent comments insulting to the intelligence of a child.  The local metroplex media (Star Telegram and Dallas Morning News, etc.) ---with the exception of the small-town periodicals, have attempted to create an ambiguous, even humorous, slant.  The people of Stephenville are not overly pleased with this treatment by the large urban media.  Stephenville is not a "hick" town.  It is a city of about 35,000 people and the home of Tarleton Universitywhich is a very creditable member of the Texas A&M University system .   
 Brooks Bradley





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 Date : Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:38:25 -0600
 From : "leslie1053" 
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Seems they have questioned if the real thing but I don't know. I live in 
Texas so let me know if you hear anything. I live on the East side tho by 
La.
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandee George" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas


> Hi there to all, anyone heard about the above ?I was just told and
> googled it, boy are there reports
> all over the place, I wonder why Texas at this time !!!???   LOL
> Sandee
>
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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas

[leslie1053]

Seems they have questioned if the real thing but I don't know. I live in 
Texas so let me know if you hear anything. I live on the East side tho by 
La.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandee George" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas



Hi there to all, anyone heard about the above ?I was just told and
googled it, boy are there reports
all over the place, I wonder why Texas at this time !!!???   LOL
Sandee

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset


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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas

[Sandee George]

Hi there to all, anyone heard about the above ?I was just told and
googled it, boy are there reports
all over the place, I wonder why Texas at this time !!!???   LOL
Sandee

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset


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Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans

[leslie1053]

I had been told it was through fibers in cotton sheets, even q tips! ??? I 
would be interested in finding out about where??

Thanks,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans



I have no idea. I simply came across that page while searching.

Marshall

mborg...@att.net wrote:


dear marshall,

thank you for the update, this is truly scarey.

I read through some of coffee-cup's info but i did not come across how 
they aquired the morgellions.  Do you know?


Mary

-- Original message from Marshall Dudley
: --


> *It is time for an update (re: morgellons*
>
> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1079393
>
> Marshall
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Re: CS>Forst batch failure,Me too!

[Arnold Beland]

Have a look at :
http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

The last few pics show what happens when I used H2O2 to clean up.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Harold MacDonald" 

To: "Bruce Anderson" ; 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Forst batch failure,Me too!


About a month ago I did almost the same thing,except for the headache.Mine 
was a small emergency.
Then I finally remembered, the batch [2 US quarts]had run about 10 hours 
over ,and it looked OK until I put a few drops of 35% H2O2 in it ,then it 
went the same milky white .I've let some of it sit, and now it is 
gradually clearing,some slight sedimentation occuring.

What did I make?
I don't have any meter to test with,yet.
This is the first time this has happened to me.
Harold
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Anderson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: CS>Forst batch failure



TO:  Old hand CS-ers and Chemistry types;
First, the history:
I make 2gal.+ batches using 1ma DC and 60" of wetted  #14, .999 silver 
wire.  I normally stop when I get about 20ppm on the PWT.

This time I stopped at 15 because I didn't want to let run overnight.
The next morning I restarted the batch.  So far so good.  But then, I 
developed a splitting headache and completely forgot the batch.
I remembered it eight hours later.  It was over 25 on the PWT.,  it was 
clear with a hint of yellow, had a fine tyndel  with a few sparkles.

NOW THE KICKER:
I thought to add H2O2 to create mostly ionic silver.  But when I added 
1oz of H2O2, the batch turned a milky gray-white.


Did I use too much H2O2?  and what did I make? (other than a mess).
TIA;
Bruce A.


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CS>re

[faith gagne]

Does anyone use Zeolite?  Thanks.  Faith G.

Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans

[Marshall Dudley]

I have no idea. I simply came across that page while searching.

Marshall

mborg...@att.net wrote:


dear marshall,

thank you for the update, this is truly scarey.

I read through some of coffee-cup's info but i did not come across how 
they aquired the morgellions.  Do you know?


Mary

-- Original message from Marshall Dudley
: --


> *It is time for an update (re: morgellons*
>
> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1079393
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: CS>Pain

[Clayton Family]

A young dr told my mother she had "high" blood pressure and 
cholesterol, and they gave her a rx. She told me about it, and I 
advised her to get a home monitor to see if it was a probelm all the 
time, and to check into the drugs and see what the side effects were. 
It turns out that it was addicting!  She was shocked, and further 
investigation on her part showed her pressure to be normal at home.


Now she does not trust what they tell her- she looks into it herself.

I am proud of her!

Oh, and I remember when the drug companies did not have to put warnings 
in their ads- people were dying, so then they were required to put in 
warnings of the adverse side effects. I too, am amazed at how people 
disregard the warnings and take them anyway.


Kathryn

On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Dee wrote:

Well they put me on one called Simvastatin about four years ago.  I 
only
took it for a month because it caused memory loss and back pain.  This 
was
when I went into it and researched and found how dangerous it can be.  
They

put me on it because my sugar and cholesterol levels were up slightly
(ha-haa) and I didn't know any better then.  My doctor knew the risks
because I could tell by her face when I told her and she told me to 
leave it

off.

My sugar levels are down now because I have lost two stone and don't 
eat
sweet things.  The cholesterol I couldn't care less about because I 
happen
to know that elevated cholesterol is perfectly normal in a 54 year 
old.  Dee



---Original Message---
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 23/01/2008 17:10:40
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Pain

Isn't Lipitor the one I have been seeing advertised on TV lately where
They give all these horrible side effects, including death, then top it
Off with:

"The FDA has stated that it that for SOME people the benefits MAY
Outweigh the risks". They somehow make that sound like a glowing
Testimonial, but it made me think that there is no way I would ever 
take

That stuff. How can anyone listen to an ad like this and even consider
Taking it?

Marshall



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RE: CS>Pain

[Dan Nave]

Since it seems to respond to temperature, the following might be
helpful.
 
Get 2 buckets, or other containers, big enough to put your foot and
ankle into.  Fill one with hot water (but not hot enough to burn your
skin) and the other with cold water and put plenty of ice cubes into it.
Put your foot/ankle into the hot bucket for a minute or two until it
really warms up and then switch it to the cold bucket.  Initially spend
less time in the cold bucket, but switch the foot from hot to cold and
back as many times as possible, staying maybe 30 seconds to one minute
in each temperature.  Do, say, 7 cycles.  Generally, stop after soaking
in the hot bucket so your foot remains warm.  You may have to add
additional hot water to the hot bucket, or ice to the cold bucket, but
use your judgment.  Also, do this for several days, at least once a day.
 
This will increase the circulation to this area, and the hot and cold
cycling will flush blood in and out of the area and should help to
remove any toxins, etc from the area and bring healing substances to the
area through the increased blood flow.
 
If you need more magnesium, you could add a half cup of "Nigari"
(magnesium chloride) or Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to the hot
water.  The Nigari would be more effective.  This tends to soften the
tissues and dilate the blood vessels.
 
Dan




From: sickleave48...@aol.com [mailto:sickleave48...@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Pain



I have pain in my left  ankle when  it gets cold. I usually does
not get cold during day at work. In evening sitting around in evening it
gets cold and starts to hurt. I had a circulation test done it was good
as a fact left leg was slightly better than right (go figure). I have
arthritis, I had X-rays they show nothing. I take several Meds. Advair
Diskus for my as ma, terazosin for blood pressure, triamterene/hctz cap,
lipitor for cholesterol,
tramadol hcl tab for arthritis and a 24 antihistamine (and nasal
spray). I also take allergy shots on a regular basis and Venom shots as
I am allergic to bees, wasps and hornets. I do use my nebulizer at least
once a week with CS in it. This ancle pain is annoying, could it just be
from the arthritis? I am open to ideas and solutions. I have a pair of
thermal boot inserts I wear as slippers around the house and to bed. At
night I can get away with just covering my left leg (with boot insert
on) this keeps leg warm and stops pain. Even Motrin 800 do not stop the
anchle from hurting. SICK LEAVE, Bob  

Re: CS>Pain

[Dee]

Well they put me on one called Simvastatin about four years ago.  I only
took it for a month because it caused memory loss and back pain.  This was
when I went into it and researched and found how dangerous it can be.  They
put me on it because my sugar and cholesterol levels were up slightly
(ha-haa) and I didn't know any better then.  My doctor knew the risks
because I could tell by her face when I told her and she told me to leave it
off.

My sugar levels are down now because I have lost two stone and don't eat
sweet things.  The cholesterol I couldn't care less about because I happen
to know that elevated cholesterol is perfectly normal in a 54 year old.  Dee
 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Marshall Dudley 

Date: 23/01/2008 17:10:40 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Pain 

 

Isn't Lipitor the one I have been seeing advertised on TV lately where 

They give all these horrible side effects, including death, then top it 

Off with: 

 

"The FDA has stated that it that for SOME people the benefits MAY 

Outweigh the risks". They somehow make that sound like a glowing 

Testimonial, but it made me think that there is no way I would ever take 

That stuff. How can anyone listen to an ad like this and even consider 

Taking it? 



Marshall 

 


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Re: CS>Pain

[Carol Ann]

Yes Marshal! 
Thats the commercial where you see Dr Jarvik, the inventor of  the artificial 
heart, look  you straight in the face and tell you how wonderful the drug 
is.
The wager is that IF Dr. Jarvik being who he issays its safe...by golly, it 
must be so, regardless of the risks. 

Btw, he is now being investigated by a congressional panel for the possibility 
of dispensing medical advice without a license.  They have expressed the 
concern  that celebrities, by virtue of their popularity, (name brand assoc 
marketing) are being employed by big pharma  to deceive, or lull  the public.  
For profit.  Geeze, who wuld a thought?   I guess thats why these people are 
elected...to observe the obvious.  

I know of only one person on Lipitor - imagineas a prophylactic (because 
his doctor reminded him that his Dad died at 85 from a heart attack) who has 
NOT stated that eventually, either or mysterious pain, confusion, memory 
impairment,  and brain fog symptoms develop. 

Marshall Dudley  wrote: Isn't Lipitor the one I have 
been seeing advertised on TV lately where 
they give all these horrible side effects, including death, then top it 
off with:

"The FDA has stated that it that for SOME people the benefits MAY 
outweigh the risks". They somehow make that sound like a glowing 
testimonial, but it made me think that there is no way I would ever take 
that stuff.  How can anyone listen to an ad like this and even consider 
taking it?

Marshall

Gene Wolfe wrote:
> Bob, have you considered that all the medications that you are taking 
> have side effects. One that certainly does, and is probably 
> unnecessary is Lipitor. 


Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
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Re: CS>Pain

[Marshall Dudley]

Isn't Lipitor the one I have been seeing advertised on TV lately where 
they give all these horrible side effects, including death, then top it 
off with:


"The FDA has stated that it that for SOME people the benefits MAY 
outweigh the risks". They somehow make that sound like a glowing 
testimonial, but it made me think that there is no way I would ever take 
that stuff.  How can anyone listen to an ad like this and even consider 
taking it?


Marshall

Gene Wolfe wrote:
Bob, have you considered that all the medications that you are taking 
have side effects. One that certainly does, and is probably 
unnecessary is Lipitor. There is a front page article in Business Week 
this week about Lipitor. http://tinyurl.com/2fp4pc It definitely has 
many side effects. I took statins for many years, and quit when I 
started having strange pains. Then I found it does very little good 
for most people, but does great good for the companies that make it.

Gene


At 05:24 PM 1/22/2008, you wrote:
I have pain in my left  ankle when  it gets cold. I usually does not 
get cold during day at work. In evening sitting around in evening it 
gets cold and starts to hurt. I had a circulation test done it was 
good as a fact left leg was slightly better than right (go figure). I 
have arthritis, I had X-rays they show nothing. I take several Meds. 
Advair Diskus for my as ma, terazosin for blood pressure, 
triamterene/hctz cap, lipitor for cholesterol,
tramadol hcl tab for arthritis and a 24 antihistamine (and nasal 
spray). I also take allergy shots on a regular basis and Venom shots 
as I am allergic to bees, wasps and hornets. I do use my nebulizer at 
least once a week with CS in it. This ancle pain is annoying, could 
it just be from the arthritis? I am open to ideas and solutions. I 
have a pair of thermal boot inserts I wear as slippers around the 
house and to bed. At night I can get away with just covering my left 
leg (with boot insert on) this keeps leg warm and stops pain. Even 
Motrin 800 do not stop the anchle from hurting. SICK LEAVE, Bob  



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Re: CS>Soy Products, Some of the Greatest Foods in the World

[faith gagne]

That looks like a beautiful site.  Havent had time to read it yet, but I 
will read it.  Thanks.  Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Soy Products, Some of the Greatest Foods in the World



Try this one: It really tells how good for you Soy is  and why.
http://www.drwong.us/ArchivedHealthArticles.htm


Dee wrote:


Very good site and endorsing what I said, I believe.  Dee


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From: Ronald (& Susan) Hart
Date: 22/01/2008 18:59:13
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Soy Products, Some of the Greatest Foods in the World

One of the best collections of information I've seen on Soy.

http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/


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Re: CS>Healthy Body

[faith gagne]

Kirsteen, I love your Thurber quote.  Hope you are feeling well.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kirsteen Wright" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:45 AM
Subject: CS>Healthy Body



Em - no thanks, I don't think I'll bother but it does remind me of one
of my favourite Thurber verses

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread
But the angels are all in heaven - and none of the fools are dead



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Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans

[mborgert]

dear marshall,
thank you for the update, this is truly scarey.
I read through some of coffee-cup's info but i did not come across how they 
aquired the morgellions.  Do you know?
Mary

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> *It is time for an update (re: morgellons* 
> 
> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1079393 
> 
> Marshall 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Pain

[Gene Wolfe]

Bob, have you considered that all the medications that you are taking 
have side effects. One that certainly does, and is probably 
unnecessary is Lipitor. There is a front page article in Business 
Week this week about Lipitor. http://tinyurl.com/2fp4pc It definitely 
has many side effects. I took statins for many years, and quit when I 
started having strange pains. Then I found it does very little good 
for most people, but does great good for the companies that make it.

Gene


At 05:24 PM 1/22/2008, you wrote:
I have pain in my left  ankle when  it gets cold. I usually does not 
get cold during day at work. In evening sitting around in evening it 
gets cold and starts to hurt. I had a circulation test done it was 
good as a fact left leg was slightly better than right (go figure). 
I have arthritis, I had X-rays they show nothing. I take several 
Meds. Advair Diskus for my as ma, terazosin for blood pressure, 
triamterene/hctz cap, lipitor for cholesterol,
tramadol hcl tab for arthritis and a 24 antihistamine (and nasal 
spray). I also take allergy shots on a regular basis and Venom shots 
as I am allergic to bees, wasps and hornets. I do use my nebulizer 
at least once a week with CS in it. This ancle pain is annoying, 
could it just be from the arthritis? I am open to ideas and 
solutions. I have a pair of thermal boot inserts I wear as slippers 
around the house and to bed. At night I can get away with just 
covering my left leg (with boot insert on) this keeps leg warm and 
stops pain. Even Motrin 800 do not stop the anchle from hurting. 
SICK LEAVE, Bob

Re: CS>Pain

[craehow...@juno.com]

Have you tried using DMSO on the area.  It comes in Gel and Liquid I prefer the 
liquid on these type of things.  Good Luck.
 
connie

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Re: CS>vitamins to ole

[C.C. Stewart]

What "blanket statement" did I make?

I simply related our experiences over many, many years (in 
reply to Nancy's enquiry about experiences of others on the list 
concerning joint problems and diet).

Any one diet does NOT work for everyone. But a person whose 
"belief" is more important to them than their health will not be open 
to changing, regardless of how many serious health problems they 
develop.
 
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:24:53 -0600 Clayton Family 
writes:

> These kinds of blanket statements about vegetarian diets are so 
> bogus it is hard to understand why people insist on making them.

> On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:23 AM, C.C. Stewart wrote:
> > Quite the opposite. As a vegetarian for 9 years, I developed
> > arthritis so bad that I had great difficulty going up and down
> > the stairs in my house. When I went back to eating meat (and
> > stopped eating much grain except rice), the arthritis went away
> > completely. I have no health problems at all now. When I get
> > my physicals, the doctors and lab techs are always amazed at
> > my perfect numbers!
> >
> > On the other hand, my husband, who remains a vegetarian after
> > 35+ years, is an Ibuprophen addict. He has so many aches and
> > pains that he takes the Ibuprophen in anticipation! He has quite
> > a repertoire of other bad health problems, as well, for which he
> > has to take medications. Still, he refuses to change his diet.
 
 


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CS>Healthy Body

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Jan 22, 2008 3:59 PM, Wayne Fugitt  wrote:
> Morning Kirsteen,
>
> >
>   I survived wading around with snakes and alligators in the swamps !
>
>   So,  you won't try that either ?
>
>   I might not, if I had it to do over.
>
>   So, we do not know if it is "young and fearless"
> or .  Stupid ?   Maybe both.

Em - no thanks, I don't think I'll bother but it does remind me of one
of my favourite Thurber verses

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread
But the angels are all in heaven - and none of the fools are dead

so I'm quite happy to settle for young and fearless :-)

>   Another one  of my original statements you can ponder...
>
> "The greatest advantage of being healthy is that you can eat anything you
> want,  anytime you want to do it"


Ah but there in lies the rub. I'm not healthy, anything but. About 18
months ago, I was struck down with Myalgic Encphomeyelitis, a fairly
severe case. Now I'm mostly housebound, often bedbound and severely
limited in what I can do or handle.

Now when I developed this, I was following a whole food, unprocessed
mainly organic diet, was extremely healthy, excercised regularly,
loved my work and have always been a follower of positive thinking. -
go figure.
>
> Give the body some real work once in a while. It might amaze you.   
>
These days, sometimes sitting up in bed is about as much as my body
can handle, try to 'give it some real work' and I relapse big time

Cheers
Kirsteen


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Re: CS>Soy Products, Some of the Greatest Foods in the World

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Dee,

You did like Day, ..
Put the quoted text at the distant bottom, ... worthless for sure

At 07:47 AM 1/22/2008, you wrote:

http://www.worldwidehealthcenter.net/articles-14.html 
maybe you should read this article Wayne.  Dee


>>I wonder where you people get all this bogus and untruthful information?

  So, Now I know where you get it.

  I did read most of the article and scanned the rest.

It is mostly about Frauds of the Food Industry.

I guess the Genius Doctor that wrote it, like you and others, believes all 
the cholesterol fraud and crap.  It mentioned that too much.


If you want to bet your life on one article, go ahead.

The whole article is intermixed with main stream ideas, half truths,
and suggestions that people eat too much soy.  Nothing of value to most of us.

I have always said, .. Soy as the main source of protein is a 
disaster, as are other sources.


Dig deep in proteins and amino acids, and you will find,

Milk beats all others, in many tests, .. hands down, not question 
about it.


I used to drink a gallon of milk per day, 6 raw eggs,  all the soy protein 
I wanted,  desiccated liver,   REAL cooked liver, and steaks so big they 
covered a platter and hung off on some sides.


So, .. tell me all about protein and amino acids.

I can't be sure, but I think your body chemistry is highly compromised.
So, .. you likely do not need to eat soy,  and 1000 other things.

Again, along with me, 1,000,000 ( or several million ) more healthy people 
have eaten tons of soy,  usually as supplements, NOT as the main protein 
source.


Anyone is a fool that has used soy or any other single food as the
only protein source.

Wayne

Re: CS>Soy Products, Some of the Greatest Foods in the World

[Dave]

Try this one: It really tells how good for you Soy is  and why.
http://www.drwong.us/ArchivedHealthArticles.htm


Dee wrote:

Very good site and endorsing what I said, I believe.  Dee  




---Original Message--- 




From: Ronald (& Susan) Hart 

Date: 22/01/2008 18:59:13 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Soy Products, Some of the Greatest Foods in the World 




One of the best collections of information I've seen on Soy. 




http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ 





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