Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[Paula Perry]

sol,
Thanks for the link. That is really cool!
Paula

- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination


 This is an interesting and fun and essentially free way to test if you 
 are magnesium deficient.
 http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/sf/TasteTests.htm
 
 My personal experience is you can test deficient in something, and 
 supplement it and feel even worse.
 Nobody talks much about the balance between these minerals. I might 
 actually make up all 3 test solutions and keep them in the fridge and 
 test daily for a while. I think it would be interesting to see how much 
 how they taste to me varies from day to day, or week to week.
 
 FWIW, my sodium test was indeterminate (at the amount of salt in 8 oz 
 water, had I quadrupled the amount of salt it would have tasted 
 delicious to me, the saltier the better--this is how I tell how much 
 salt in water to take), magnesium says I'm deficient, and potassium says 
 I don't need any extra. The potassium chloride I had to spit out, no way 
 I could have swallowed it.
 Kinda fun.
 sol
 
 
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RE: CSPlunged!

[Ode Coyote]

$20 for a $1.50 jug of water is crazy.

  Check by the Chemist for de-ionized water.
I've heard that auto parts stores sell distilled water for topping off car 
batteries  in the UK
Not for human consumption is due to its not having been sterilize with 
Ozone or Peroxide, but making the CS will sterilize it, no problem.


Ode


At 11:47 AM 5/22/2008 +0100, you wrote:

Thanks for that BobL.  The DW I have ordered is about £10 ($20) per five 
litres so that is ok for now.  It is supposed to be 0.0ppm TDS but I have 
been told this is nigh on impossible, but if it is almost that it should 
be ok.  Their delivery is slow though.  I will see how it works out and if 
no good, will seek other options.  As it is, this will still be better 
than the £11 ($22) per 500mls I've been paying for CS. TA Dee


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From: mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.combob Larson
Date: 22/05/2008 01:23:02
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSPlunged!

you'll do fine.  don't be discouraged if you mess up a few times... just
make use of that which you wouldn't drink in other ways around the
homestead.

at $8US /liter for the DW (if i recall that right) you gotta get away from
that a.s.a.p.
consider a Reverse Osmosis water filter with de-ionizer cartridges to
install under the sink.  if needbe, you can get a garden hose adapter and
use it anywhere but it's nice to have RO available from it's own spigot on
the sink top.  the de-ionizer will make it real nice, almost as pure as
distilled but it doesn't trap or kill microbes (which will be dead already
if you water supply is chlorinated as most is).  then an economical
countertop pitcher style distiller won't have much to do at all.  and
flouride will be gone too.
the RO water is great to drink/cook with if trace minerals are added back
into it via Concentrace or the like.

i'm using RO  de-ionized water without distilling for my CS and it makes
better CS than any of the DW available from the grocery stores except that
from Whole Foods (strangely they're also the cheapest too).

cheers,
bobL

 -Original Message-
 From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.orgmailto:d...@deetroy.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:11 PM
 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSPlunged!


 Just thought I'd tell you all that I've finally plucked up
 courage and ordered my generator so am quite excited although a
 bit nervous about it!  Lord knows what sort of mess I'll make of
 it, but nevertheless, nothing ventured nothing gained, as the
 saying goes... I've also ordered some distilled water so hope
 that goes ok, and who knows, I may end up getting my own
 distiller!  Brave talk indeed for a mechanically challenged OAP!  Dee


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CSLyme Disease

[marmar845]

-- Original message from "SJY" you...@relia.net: --


There have been many posts over the years (Marsha, Brooks, etc) regarding Lyme disease treatments with CS  other products. I have not saved them because it was not a concern. But it turns out my wife probably has had it for years without realizing it, so now it is a concern.

I would appreciate anyone posting or reposting remedies for Lyme disease. You can send them to the list of directly to me if you wish.

 Please post to the list -- for the benefit of new members, and also to refresh the memories of others. I was bitten by a Lyme tick two weeks ago, and even though have had electro-stim treatment, am still nervous about it. MA

RE: CSWater conductivity [car stuff] (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ode Coyote]

  If you've gotten a 40% gain with CS in the injector water, you may have 
proven the value of combustion catalysts and how little it takes.

I would expect more like a 5 or 10% gain.
Have you had the same results without the CS??

It would take a very big Browns gas [HHO] generator to make any difference 
if it was being used as a fuel and take much more power to make than 
you'll ever get out of it.
However, as a combustion interface to thermally connect gasoline globules 
to get the flame front to spread well, could make burning *all* the gas in 
the fuel / air charge while in the cylinder more likely...like having lots 
of twigs in the bonfire to get the logs going.
 Some folks add a touch of Acetone [a volatile] to their gas for that 
purpose and report a gain, particularly in winter when the intake air is 
cold and gasoline doesn't vaporize as well.

I would think that HHO would be a very good 'volatile'

My Geo Metro was made to run effectively rich on 87 octane [thus cooler 
combustion temperatures]  by retarding the timing to 5 degrees BTDC vs the 
more usual 10-12 degrees in order to keep NOX emissions down without 
rolling back the 9.5 to 1 compression ratio.
Bumping that up to 10-12 degrees adds available  power and gets better 
mileage and doesn't ping or knock on regular gas , keeps a valve burning 
tendency at bay and cleans up the fluffy carbon deposits in the tail pipe 
and keeps the Cat Converter clean. [but it won't pass the NOX sniffers that 
way]

Carbon in the tail pipe is a sure sign of wasted fuel.

There's been some talk of using H2O2 in the water injector. [adding some 
alcohol is pretty much a tradition]


www.eagle-research.com has an O2 sensor offset device that enables dialing 
in mixture at the dash for around $60.

It's open source so that anyone can legally produce them.

This may be a bit odd, but it does apply to the group if it uses CS and 
anyone drives. [Drivers financial health related, holds the Oil Companies 
back a little like holding back expensive doctor visits]


Ode



At 10:31 AM 5/22/2008 -0400, you wrote:


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Do not know if the engine will ever see any of the silver as the plate
Will be making a form of Hydrogen gas, it is called Brown's gas as it
will also have
Oxygen with it. Some of the Silver may get carries away to engine, I do
not know.
The extra Oxygen and fuel means you have to trick your car into running
leaner.
The interesting fact is that with a Hydrogen Generator on an Old Vintage
car
The hydrogen makes the gas burn so completely that an old (1950's ) car
could
Pass today's California emission requirements (or so I have read in
numerous places).
I do not believe every thing I read but am interested enough to try it
out as
The costs are cheap enough especially when I do it my self.
I have run the water injection on my boat engines with great success and
am looking for
Either a different water injection system or in combination with the
hydrogen.
When I run the water injection I put several ounces of CS in the
distilled water
to make sure nothing grows in it, water injection allows you to advance
timing with out knock.
When you have a twin 318 engines in a 28 foot boat and only get 1 to
1.25 miles
Per gallon I need all the help I can get. I got a 40% increase in fuel
economy
With the water injection. Enough as this does not apply directly to our
group,
But it may give some in our groups some ideas to check out and save some
money.
Money is getting real tight with current fuel prices. If any one has
questions
Or wants to continue this write me direct. NOTE I am no dummy as I test
engines
On a Dynamometer for a living and have a wealth of experience (30 years)
both personally
And with others.
Bob



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Re: CSLyme Disease

[kmilkowski]

I use the salt vitamin c protocol along with MMS. Been using salt/c almost 2 
years, highly effective for me. MMS is pretty new out there, but it seems to 
work also. I also have a photon genie, which is an electro-medical device, the 
thing really kicks ass.

Kurt
 marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: 
 
 -- Original message from SJY you...@relia.net: 
 -- 
 There have been many posts over the years (Marsha, Brooks, etc) regarding 
 Lyme disease treatments with CS  other products.  I have not saved them 
 because it was not a concern.  But it turns out my wife probably has had it 
 for years without realizing it, so now it is a concern.
  
 I would appreciate anyone posting or reposting remedies for Lyme disease.  
 You can send them to the list of directly to me if you wish.
  
  Please post to the list -- for the benefit of new members, and also to 
 refresh the memories of others.  I was bitten by a Lyme tick two weeks ago, 
 and even though have had electro-stim treatment, am still nervous about it.  
 MA


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Re: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret)

[mborgert]

Wayne,
Which are the best?
There are many out there, I am confused.
Mary
-- Original message from Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com: --  At 08:17 AM 5/22/2008, you wrote:  A small water injector alone, increases power and economy, reduces NOX  emissions, allows using a more efficient higher compression ratio with  lower octane fuels and keeps carbon deposits at bay.   Glad to see a few talking about these devices. I though they were all  obsolete,  or the people that knew about them were obsolete.   I was installing these injectors in the 60's. The technology and  origin dates back to the 50's and even into the 40's. Nothing new for sure.   Someone mentioned leaning out the fuel mixture.   It anyone has spent enough time around a race track, they well know the  hazards and problems of monkeyi
ng with fuel mixtures. Considering the  theory of the internal combustion engine, the fuel serves some other  important tasks.   I had one vehicle lean out, all by itself. Awesome economy.   Then, a valve over heated and dropped, then cracked the head, requiring a  new engine.   If one does not understand all this, beware of monkeying with fuel mixtures.   Anyone that has raced for 20 or 25 years should be able to explain it very  well.   Now, what government engines used water injectors ? Maybe that is the  Top Secret part, or it might be Unclassified by now.   I still wonder what in the Heck, anything Classified or Unclassified is  doing on this list.   Wayne   ===--  The Silver List is a moderated forum for 
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Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[Faith Gagne]

I plan to try these tests.  thanks Sol.  Faith g.

- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination


This is an interesting and fun and essentially free way to test if you 
are magnesium deficient.

http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/sf/TasteTests.htm

My personal experience is you can test deficient in something, and 
supplement it and feel even worse.
Nobody talks much about the balance between these minerals. I might 
actually make up all 3 test solutions and keep them in the fridge and 
test daily for a while. I think it would be interesting to see how much 
how they taste to me varies from day to day, or week to week.


FWIW, my sodium test was indeterminate (at the amount of salt in 8 oz 
water, had I quadrupled the amount of salt it would have tasted 
delicious to me, the saltier the better--this is how I tell how much 
salt in water to take), magnesium says I'm deficient, and potassium says 
I don't need any extra. The potassium chloride I had to spit out, no way 
I could have swallowed it.

Kinda fun.
sol


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Re: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret)

[Faith Gagne]

And worth it too, in my opinion.  Faith G.


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret)



Wayne wonders:

I still wonder what in the Heck, anything Classified or Unclassified is
doing on this list.


That's something we're going to simply have to accept if we're to enjoy 
the contributions of Bob Medwith. Obviously the servers he's posting 
through at work tack that stuff on.


Be well,

Mike D.
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[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[George Knoll]

Brooks,

What type of  Magnesium or brand would you suggest one take or consume.

George

- Original Message - 
From: Brooks Bradley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 5/22/2008 9:03:01 PM 
Subject: Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination


Dear Dee, 
I cannot offer a reliable answer to your question about magnesium oil because 
of so many possible variables (e.g. the 
actual composition of the compound being applied; the transporting fraction, 
the total surface area being treated, the length of time involved for the 
protocol, etc.) My SHORT observation is that anything less than an UNREASONABLE 
long-time saturation of large body surfaces. would not be a concern 
if I was utilizing almost any of the magnesium oil preparations offered by the 
legitimate commercial market. 
We do not give medical advice on any circumstance. However, I do, on occasion, 
relate comments on what 
I would do for MYSELFunder certain circumstances. Bearing such in mind, I 
will hazard a comment. Since over-dosing on ingested magnesium is 
not a common condition.when coupled with the fact that a majority of adults 
(men in particular)are markedly deficient in dietary intake of magnesium, 
it would appear unlikely to pose a health threat for an adult to consume a 
total of 1500 mg daily (if uncertain, the addition of 400 mg of calcium would 
mitigate against the the probability of systemic imbalance. As a matter of 
fact, I consume 2000 mg of magnesium daily with only a 500 mg dose of 
calcium 
and have done so for 15 yearswith no evidence of difficulty. Our experience 
has been that TOO HIGH calcium fractions are FAR MORE common that the reverse. 
Others may have experienced different results. Magnesium is a very forgiving 
element; loose stools being the most obvious indication of high oral intake. 
One reason for high calcium titers is the high volume of calcium ingested in 
today's average western diet. There is, in my opinion, far too much calcium 
added to purchased foodstuffs. Magnesium demonstrates a very low toxic 
challenge, compared to other metals in its periodic groupplus the fact that 
it is one of the STAR PERFORMERS in the firmament of cardiovascular well-being. 
My apologies for being unable to supply a more definitive address to your 
question. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 

br





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Subject : Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

Date : Thu, 22 May 2008 11:41:43 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)

From : Dee  d...@deetroy.org

To : silver-list@eskimo.com



Thank you Brooks for this posting. Can you tell me if it is possible to 

*over* dose on magnesium. I am trying to get my husband to rub mag oil in 

and also to take things like spirulina, because he had a slight 'leakage' 

into the brain at one point. I also take mag citrate (400mgs) and rub in 

mag oil to help stiffness. Would this be too much in your opinion? Many 

thanks. Dee 





---Original Message--- 





From: Brooks Bradley 


Date: 22/05/2008 00:54:48 


To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 


Subject: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination 





The recent commentary on Magnesium by list members prompts me to a comment 


on determining the actual levels of magnesium in the human body. To wit: 

since magnesium (to quote Dr. Russell Blaylock) is mostly an intracellular 

ionmeaning that normal blood levels will tell nothing of tissue levels. 

This circumstance calls attention to the fact that even NORMAL titers of 

magnesium in the bloodstream in no way guarantee satisfactory levels in the 

tissue beds of the body. In point of fact, one could be expressing SEVERE 

systemic tissue level magnesium deficiency while a current blood level test 

might indicate normal concentrations. This circumstance can greatly 

complicate the issue.because most doctors, presently, utilize blood 

levels to assess magnesium deficiency. 


One thing you can count on is.if the blood levels ARE low, the tissue 

levels will be distinctly, possibly dangerously, lower. 


I have a suggestion for any (especially men) who have had by-pass surgery, 
strokes 
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CSNebulizing and lungcancer

[Hanneke]

Tonight I was asked if  nebulizing would be  a good idea for lung cancer.

Although I am familiar with the CS/DMSO  for respiratory problems, 
and emphysema, a search in my archives didn't come up with any 
results  for lung cancer.  Would anyone know?


Hanneke


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Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[Dee]

Thank you very much for such an in depth reply Brooks, I very much
appreciate your help.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Brooks Bradley
Date: 23/05/2008 03:02:55
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination
 
Dear Dee, 
I cannot offer a reliable answer to your question about magnesium oil
because of so many possible variables (e.g. the 
actual composition of the compound being applied; the transporting fraction,
the total surface area being treated, the length of time involved for the
protocol, etc.) My SHORT observation is that anything less than an
UNREASONABLE long-time saturation of large body surfaces. would not be a
concern 
if I was utilizing almost any of the magnesium oil preparations offered by the 
legitimate commercial market. 

Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[Dee]

Brilliant site Sol,..Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: sol
Date: 23/05/2008 04:30:15
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination
 
This is an interesting and fun and essentially free way to test if you
are magnesium deficient.
http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/sf/TasteTests.htm
 
My personal experience is you can test deficient in something, and
supplement it and feel even worse.
Nobody talks much about the balance between these minerals. I might
actually make up all 3 test solutions and keep them in the fridge and
test daily for a while. I think it would be interesting to see how much
how they taste to me varies from day to day, or week to week.
 

RE: CSPlunged!

[Dee]

The trouble is Ode, that here in the UK the distilled water is not so good,
even the stuff you get in the chemist which is pretty expensive too.  My
friend makes her CS and she was buying from the chemist, but the silver came
out pale yellow so she then had to get a distiller.  Mind you, it may not
have been de-ionised water so I will check.  But knowing UK prices it will
probably be expensive. Thanks for your input.  Dee

---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 23/05/2008 12:05:56
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSPlunged!
 
$20 for a $1.50 jug of water is crazy.
 
   Check by the Chemist for de-ionized water.
I've heard that auto parts stores sell distilled water for topping off car
batteries  in the UK
Not for human consumption is due to its not having been sterilize with
Ozone or Peroxide, but making the CS will sterilize it, no problem.
 
Ode
 
 

RE: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret) (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

When I have an engine Running on a test stand it runs for 10 hours a
day,
I put in 11 to 12 hours to get  the one cycle done (test is 400 hours) 
Plus all the full and part load power curves on various Fuels
I spend some time on my computer, any thing I send out goes though our
system.
I work at TACOM  Tank Automotive Command in Warren Mi (US Army)
I am blessed that that I can get on computer other wise I would go nuts
Sitting here.  


I spend a lot of time looking up supplies for other projects and learned
a few things in process.
I ordered and received one of those LED light arrays 1/2 880 and 1/2 660
from the LED man 
I will be trying it out over the next few weeks and I will report back,
Hoping it will stop some pain.
I never did catch where some put the array to shrink his Prostate, any
one remember.
Not all fun and games when I do my 100 Maintained I go home with my
pants Black from soot and oil.
I go straight to the washer in basement and My wife throws down a change
of pants cause this
Stuff will get all over. I have learned every thing at work from Air
Cond to Electrical and Plumbing to
Welding. I have been researching the ON DEMAND Hydrogen Generator for
gas and Diesels, I may just buy a cheap one to start.
Hence I have posted occasionally the current limiters that together with
any DC wall plug in you can make 
A CS generator for less than $5. I think I will post the Current
limiters again.
   Stay Well I look at it any day you Wake up on the Right Side of the
Grass is a GOOD DAY
Some just better than others
PS my other Handle for home is sickleave48045   SICK LEAVE is my boat
name

   Bob
   



-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret)

And worth it too, in my opinion.  Faith G.


- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret)


 Wayne wonders:
 I still wonder what in the Heck, anything Classified or Unclassified
is
 doing on this list.
 
 That's something we're going to simply have to accept if we're to
enjoy 
 the contributions of Bob Medwith. Obviously the servers he's posting 
 through at work tack that stuff on.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
 [mdev...@eskimo.com]
 [Speaking only for myself...   ]
 
 
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Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 



Subject: CSBrewing CS
To all (especially new members) 
You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power
supply using 
a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents
610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp 
You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver 
closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating.  You can
use almost any voltage, lower voltage just might take longer.
Once you have some CS you can use a little to seed a new batch.
I have my own Water Distiller, (I always wonder if you could use the
distiller for some hard stuff), 
With the Aluminum coils I would be afraid to try.
Bob

 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[Clayton Family]

Thanks for posting this link, it looks like fun, and makes good sense!  
This is a keeper.


Kathryn


On May 22, 2008, at 10:29 PM, sol wrote:

This is an interesting and fun and essentially free way to test if you 
are magnesium deficient.

http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/sf/TasteTests.htm

My personal experience is you can test deficient in something, and 
supplement it and feel even worse.
Nobody talks much about the balance between these minerals. I might 
actually make up all 3 test solutions and keep them in the fridge and 
test daily for a while. I think it would be interesting to see how 
much how they taste to me varies from day to day, or week to week.


FWIW, my sodium test was indeterminate (at the amount of salt in 8 oz 
water, had I quadrupled the amount of salt it would have tasted 
delicious to me, the saltier the better--this is how I tell how much 
salt in water to take), magnesium says I'm deficient, and potassium 
says I don't need any extra. The potassium chloride I had to spit out, 
no way I could have swallowed it.

Kinda fun.
sol



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Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[Clayton Family]

Brooks,  Thank you very much for your valuable input on this topic. I 
am saving your responses in my archive.  -Kathryn


On May 22, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote:


 Dear Dee,
 I cannot offer a reliable answer to your question about magnesium 



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RE: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret) (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 
There are some very costly and expensive water injection systems out
there.
No engines here that use water injection I have been playing with it on
my boat engines for a few years.
Yes as for leaning your fuel mixture yes you have to be careful and know
what you are doing.
When you add Hydrogen generator it makes Hydrogen and an extra oxygen
which your car computer
intercepts and pours in more gas. That is why you have to trick the
computer to composite for the
extra Fuel (Hydrogen) you add. I have a friend that drives large over
the road trucks (Semi) and he told
me of a Co that put the Hydrogen generators on all their trucks. On most
Diesel trucks you do not have 
to trick the computer or engines as you do on Gas engines. I talked with
some one that ran a 100 hp
diesel engine at 100 hp then added the hydrogen from a generator the HP
jumped to 140HP 
this was on a test with Calibrated equipment. You have to remember it is
not just the extra fuel you 
are adding it makes what you have burn so much better. I have read that
if you put the right size Hydrogen
Generator on a car from the 50's it would burn the fuel so completely
that it would pass Today's California Emissions.
 
 Bob

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From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:31 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater Injector, (CLASSIFIED, Top Secret)


Wayne,
Which are the best?
There are many out there, I am confused.
Mary

-- Original message from Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com:
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 At 08:17 AM 5/22/2008, you wrote: 
 A small water injector alone, increases power and economy, reduces
NOX 
 emissions, allows using a more efficient higher compression ratio
with 
 lower octane fuels and keeps carbon deposits at bay. 
 
 Glad to see a few talking about these devices. I though they were all 
 obsolete, 
 or the people that knew about them were obsolete. 
 
 I was installing these injectors in the 60's. The technology and 
 origin dates back to the 50's and even into the 40's. Nothing new for
sure. 
 
 Someone mentioned leaning out the fuel mixture. 
 
 It anyone has spent enough time around a race track, they well know
the 
 hazards and problems of ! monkeyi ng with fuel mixtures. Considering
the 
 theory of the internal combustion engine, the fuel serves some other 
 important tasks. 
 
 I had one vehicle lean out, all by itself. Awesome economy. 
 
 Then, a valve over heated and dropped, then cracked the head,
requiring a 
 new engine. 
 
 If one does not understand all this, beware of monkeying with fuel
mixtures. 
 
 Anyone that has raced for 20 or 25 years should be able to explain it
very 
 well. 
 
 Now, what government engines used water injectors ? Maybe that is the 
 Top Secret part, or it might be Unclassified by now. 
 
 I still wonder what in the Heck, anything Classified or Unclassified
is 
 doing on this list. 
 
 Wayne 
 
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Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination

[Faith Gagne]

Yes Brooks, me too.  Faith G.


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSTrue Magnesium Level Determination


Brooks,  Thank you very much for your valuable input on this topic. I 
am saving your responses in my archive.  -Kathryn


On May 22, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote:


 Dear Dee,
 I cannot offer a reliable answer to your question about magnesium 



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Re: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Faith Gagne]

Home made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)Hi Bob.  Have you told us what brand water 
distiller you have?  Or did you make it yourself.  Thanks.  Faith g.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:34 PM
  Subject: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)


  Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
  Caveats: NONE 





  Subject: CSBrewing CS 
  To all (especially new members) 
  You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply 
using 
  a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 
from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp 
  You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure 
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver 

  closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating.  You can use 
almost any voltage, lower voltage just might take longer.

  Once you have some CS you can use a little to seed a new batch. 
  I have my own Water Distiller, (I always wonder if you could use the 
distiller for some hard stuff), 
  With the Aluminum coils I would be afraid to try. 
  Bob 

   
  Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
  Caveats: NONE 

RE: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 
I have a Love unit, I do not fill it past 3 quarts it seems to a better
product this way (at least on mine).
I stock piled some distilled water (with Cs in it) it keeps better just
in case water goes out.
If I made a still it would not be for water, just kidding because I can
count the drinks I have each year with digits 
left from toes and fingers. I could make on for car fuel but it is a lot
of work unless you have the raw material 
and go solar.
 
 Bob
 

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From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)


Hi Bob.  Have you told us what brand water distiller you have?  Or did
you make it yourself.  Thanks.  Faith g.
 

- Original Message - 
From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA
mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil AMC 
To: cs mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:34 PM
Subject: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE 
  



Subject: CSBrewing CS 
To all (especially new members) 
You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power
supply using 
a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents
610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp 
You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver 

closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating.  You can
use almost any voltage, lower voltage just might take longer.

Once you have some CS you can use a little to seed a new batch. 
I have my own Water Distiller, (I always wonder if you could use the
distiller for some hard stuff), 
With the Aluminum coils I would be afraid to try. 
Bob 


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE 

 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

Re: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Faith Gagne]

Home made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)Thanks Bob.  I think you mentioned the 
Love unit before..Are you in Ca.?  I hear it's real 'green' out there, 
alternative energy wise.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:49 PM
  Subject: RE: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)


  Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

  Caveats: NONE


  I have a Love unit, I do not fill it past 3 quarts it seems to a better 
product this way (at least on mine).
  I stock piled some distilled water (with Cs in it) it keeps better just in 
case water goes out.
  If I made a still it would not be for water, just kidding because I can count 
the drinks I have each year with digits 
  left from toes and fingers. I could make on for car fuel but it is a lot of 
work unless you have the raw material 
  and go solar.

   Bob




--
  From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:49 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)


  Hi Bob.  Have you told us what brand water distiller you have?  Or did you 
make it yourself.  Thanks.  Faith g.

- Original Message - 
From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC 
To: cs 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:34 PM
Subject: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE 
  




Subject: CSBrewing CS 
To all (especially new members) 
You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply 
using 
a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 
from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp 
You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure 
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver 

closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating.  You can use 
almost any voltage, lower voltage just might take longer.

Once you have some CS you can use a little to seed a new batch. 
I have my own Water Distiller, (I always wonder if you could use the 
distiller for some hard stuff), 
With the Aluminum coils I would be afraid to try. 
Bob 


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE 


  Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

  Caveats: NONE

RE: CSHome made CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Gene Wolfe]

Hi, Bob. I bought a Love unit, and I have not been able to get water 
from it better than 5.6 uS on a COM-100 tester. My SilverGen says no 
thanks and will not run. I tried to cut down the speed with a Variac 
and still got 5.6. I also tried 1/2 gal. after your last post and got 
5.6. When I called in the guy said I could ship it back and if it 
distilled water they would ship it back. No thanks.


Any suggestions would be appreciated before I trash the thing.

Gene

At 02:49 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote:

I have a Love unit, I do not fill it past 3 quarts it seems to a 
better product this way (at least on mine).
I stock piled some distilled water (with Cs in it) it keeps better 
just in case water goes out.
If I made a still it would not be for water, just kidding because I 
can count the drinks I have each year with digits
left from toes and fingers. I could make on for car fuel but it is a 
lot of work unless you have the raw material

and go solar.

 Bob