Re: CSCS ppm ( EC and ppm )

[Dee]

Hi Wayne, how comes your posts change fonts all the time?  Do you do this
your self or is it your program?  It's just that it can be confusing as to
who said what!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 05/07/2008 04:25:27
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS ppm ( EC and ppm )
 
Evening Jim,

  At 12:43 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote:

Dear Wayne:
  As I have said, no ppm meter exists in the world today.  Just because
many people use the EC meter and call the results ppm metes does not  a ppm
meter exist.
 
Actually there are at least two scientific instruments that directly measure
silver concentration.  One is a probe similar to a pH probe that
specifically measures silver concentration.  The other is a photo
spectrometer.  Neither one is cheap.   I have been to Frank Key’s lab
several times and the device he uses burns the silver sample in a plasma
then measures the frequency spectrum emitted and the magnatude in relation
to a certified standard.

   Interesting indeed.

I made the statement that some high priced instruments exist that will
measure a single salt.
Possibly these fancy devices would be covered by that.

I am not the only person that says this about ppm meters, many others have
said the same thing.



 
It just so happens that the collidal silver made by my generator shows that
uS is a 1 to 1 realation to PPM using the Hanna PWT tester.  Other EC meters
probably will be different.  See the test report at 

  How did you manage that ?  Looks like that would depend on the water as
much as the CS.

http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator .

   

Re: CSHigh Tech Repellant System

[mborgert]

Mike,
We use to have the same problem, we solved it by using apple slices coated in cement and sugar.
Took a while.
Mary
-- Original message from "M. G. Devour" mdev...@eskimo.com: --  Sharon wrote:   Oh, how I wish! I've thrown mothballs, chlorine tabs, smoke bombs, and,   believe it or not, dried coyote urine under the shed where those fat   varmints thrive! They picked up the chlorine tabs, and the mothballs, and literally threw   them back out the holes!   Which turns this into an engineering problem... How 'bout putting those  kinds of things in a sturdy metal container with holes in it and  anchoring it under there on a chain or a pole? If they can't get at it  to move it, they might decide not to live with it.   Of course, if you *do* get them to move, you might want to take a look  around first and think about where they might decide to move *TO!*Back up to the house, watching from the deck, I swear those *%*^   groundhogs came out from under the shed (they've hollowed it out under   there) and waved at me.   A truly Disney-esque image!   Be well,   Mike D.   [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]  [mdev...@eskimo.com ]  [Speaking only for myself... ]--  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.   Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org   To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com   Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com   The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...   List maintainer: Mike Devour   

Re: CSHigh Tech Repellant System

[Faith Gagne]

That's pretty ghastly.  Faith G.


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  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:06 AM
  Subject: Re: CSHigh Tech Repellant System


  Mike,
  We use to have the same problem, we solved it by using apple slices coated in 
cement and sugar.
  Took a while.
  Mary
-- Original message from M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com: 
-- 


 Sharon wrote: 
  Oh, how I wish! I've thrown mothballs, chlorine tabs, smoke bombs, and, 
  believe it or not, dried coyote urine under the shed where those fat 
  varmints thrive! 
  
  They picked up the chlorine tabs, and the mothballs, and literally 
threw 
  them back out the holes! 
 
 Which turns this into an engineering problem... How 'bout putting those 
 kinds of things in a sturdy metal container with holes in it and 
 anchoring it under there on a chain or a pole? If they can't get at it 
 to move it, they might decide not to live with it. 
 
 Of course, if you *do* get them to move, you might want to take a look 
 around first and think about where they might decide to move *TO!* 
 
  Back up to the house, watching from the deck, I swear those *%*^ 
  groundhogs came out from under the shed (they've hollowed it out under 
  there) and waved at me. 
 
 A truly Disney-esque image! 
 
 Be well, 
 
 Mike D. 
 
 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] 
 [mdev...@eskimo.com ] 
 [Speaking only for myself... ] 
 
 
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CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Dee,

At 06:50 AM 7/5/2008, you wrote:
Hi Wayne, how comes your posts change fonts all the time?  Do you do this 
your self or is it your program?  It's just that it can be confusing as to 
who said what!  Dee


NO, I do  not change anything.

They all look the same when they come back to me.

My program keeps the same font as the message I quote, I believe.

I virtually never change it, ... unless someone uses pale blue, 
bogus colors and very small text.

Then I change it so I can see it better.

The message in question, from Jim, did in fact have pale blue and some 
unusual font.

But I did not change it.

Likely it goes back to Jim, the font he selected, or used by his mailer.

I have used the same program for 20 years.  It seldom throws me or you a curve.

It only throws BACK, what was Thrown at it.

It has one nice setting...

Quote all
Quote None
Quote Selected ... I can select one line or one paragraph of your 
message and that is exactly what it will quote.


So many people are still using bogus, two bit, off the wall software, and 
don't even know how to use that.


( not talking about you of course. )

Some like a   Stufffed IN BOX   But I rather have a  Stuffed Bell Pepper.

Who would disagree with that ?   grin

Wayne












---Original Message---

From: mailto:cwa...@netdoor.comWayne Fugitt
Date: 05/07/2008 04:25:27
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS ppm ( EC and ppm )

Evening Jim,

  At 12:43 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote:
Dear Wayne:
  As I have said, no ppm meter exists in the world today.  Just because 
many people use the EC meter and call the results ppm metes does not  a 
ppm meter exist.


Actually there are at least two scientific instruments that directly 
measure silver concentration.  One is a probe similar to a pH probe that 
specifically measures silver concentration.  The other is a photo 
spectrometer.  Neither one is cheap.   I have been to Frank Key's lab 
several times and the device he uses burns the silver sample in a plasma 
then measures the frequency spectrum emitted and the magnatude in relation 
to a certified standard.

   Interesting indeed.

I made the statement that some high priced instruments exist that will 
measure a single salt.

Possibly these fancy devices would be covered by that.

I am not the only person that says this about ppm meters, many others have 
said the same thing.




It just so happens that the collidal silver made by my generator shows 
that uS is a 1 to 1 realation to PPM using the Hanna PWT tester.  Other EC 
meters probably will be different.  See the test report at


  How did you manage that ?  Looks like that would depend on the water as 
much as the CS.
http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generatorhttp://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator 
.




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Re: CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Smitty]

 Hi Wayne, how comes your posts change fonts all the time?  Do you do this
 your self or is it your program?  It's just that it can be confusing as to
 who said what!  Dee

I don't see any changes. I'm running Safari on a G5 Mac.

Smitty


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RE: CSCS ppm ( EC and ppm )

[Jim Meissner yahoo]

Dear Wayne:

 

You are quite right the water you start with has an affect.  My premise is
that I always start with pure water around 1 to 2 uS.

 

Many years ago when I was more active on this group someone proposed uS to
PPM ratio and I do not remember what that was and who did the research.  

 

The fact that colloidal silver made with my generator has this 1 to 1
relationship is pure luck and I did not find out about it until Frank Key
made the measurement.

 

Jim Meissner   www.MeissnerResearch.com 

  _  

From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS ppm ( EC and ppm )

 

Evening Jim,

  At 12:43 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote:



Dear Wayne:
  As I have said, no ppm meter exists in the world today.  Just because
many people use the EC meter and call the results ppm metes does not  a ppm
meter exist.
 
Actually there are at least two scientific instruments that directly measure
silver concentration.  One is a probe similar to a pH probe that
specifically measures silver concentration.  The other is a photo
spectrometer.  Neither one is cheap.   I have been to Frank Keys lab
several times and the device he uses burns the silver sample in a plasma
then measures the frequency spectrum emitted and the magnatude in relation
to a certified standard.

   Interesting indeed.

I made the statement that some high priced instruments exist that will
measure a single salt.
Possibly these fancy devices would be covered by that.

I am not the only person that says this about ppm meters, many others have
said the same thing.





 
It just so happens that the collidal silver made by my generator shows that
uS is a 1 to 1 realation to PPM using the Hanna PWT tester.  Other EC meters
probably will be different.  See the test report at 


  How did you manage that ?  Looks like that would depend on the water as
much as the CS.



http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator .


   Maybe I should have said, no Standard ppm  meter 
or..   No off the shelf ppm meter, that one could afford and use exists.

The EC meters that are showing ppm have internal calculations much like the
people on the list are using.

Back to your original statement,

 Actually there are at least two scientific instruments that directly
measure silver concentration.

I am fully aware that any machine, device or instrument can be designed and
built to
accomplish virtually any purpose or virtually any task.

And,   I have no doubt that every think you say is  100 % correct.

My only slight difference and problem is that one would consider these
highly sophisticated instruments, costing many thousands of dollars to be a
ppm meter.
They appear to be a single purpose instrument.

I don't think you even said that they were ppm meters.  grin

It disturbs me that the instrument industry is talking about combining EC
and ppm
 and having only one unit.  Not sure what they could call it.

I believe that many would never accept it. ppm is an absolute.  EC is also,
but they are not the same thing, and never will be.  In rare cases, pure
water and one item, and they will be close, as you stated.

Wayne

Re: CSHemp Oil

[Faith Gagne]

I can be a skeptical person, but this video or series of videos is 
incredible.  Thanks very much for sharing it.  I am impressed.  I wish I 
could help in this fight.  Faith G.



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Pretty good informatin on the healing properties of hemp oil.

http://www.youtube.com/chrychek


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Re: CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Dee]

Well now this post came through with your text  all the same size, while
mine is slightly smaller as I wrote it, but the one from Jim had all
different fonts where yours started off the same as in this email and then
changed size to small at the end.  All very strange.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 07/05/08 14:33:52
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSFonts and Bogus Software
 
Morning Dee,

At 06:50 AM 7/5/2008, you wrote:

Hi Wayne, how comes your posts change fonts all the time?  Do you do this
your self or is it your program?  It's just that it can be confusing as to
who said what!  Dee 

NO, I do  not change anything.

They all look the same when they come back to me.

My program keeps the same font as the message I quote, I believe.

I virtually never change it, ... unless someone uses pale blue,
bogus colors and very small text.
Then I change it so I can see it better.

The message in question, from Jim, did in fact have pale blue and some
unusual font.
But I did not change it.

Likely it goes back to Jim, the font he selected, or used by his mailer.

I have used the same program for 20 years.  It seldom throws me or you a
curve.

It only throws BACK, what was Thrown at it.

It has one nice setting...

Quote all
Quote None
Quote Selected ... I can select one line or one paragraph of your
message and that is exactly what it will quote.

So many people are still using bogus, two bit, off the wall software, and
don't even know how to use that.

( not talking about you of course. )

Some like a   Stufffed IN BOX   But I rather have a  Stuffed Bell Pepper


Who would disagree with that ?   grin

Wayne











 
---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 05/07/2008 04:25:27
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS ppm ( EC and ppm )
 
Evening Jim,

  At 12:43 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote:
Dear Wayne:
  As I have said, no ppm meter exists in the world today.  Just because
many people use the EC meter and call the results ppm metes does not  a ppm
meter exist.
 
Actually there are at least two scientific instruments that directly measure
silver concentration.  One is a probe similar to a pH probe that
specifically measures silver concentration.  The other is a photo
spectrometer.  Neither one is cheap.   I have been to Frank Key’s lab
several times and the device he uses burns the silver sample in a plasma
then measures the frequency spectrum emitted and the magnatude in relation
to a certified standard.
   Interesting indeed.

I made the statement that some high priced instruments exist that will
measure a single salt.
Possibly these fancy devices would be covered by that.

I am not the only person that says this about ppm meters, many others have
said the same thing.


 
It just so happens that the collidal silver made by my generator shows that
uS is a 1 to 1 realation to PPM using the Hanna PWT tester.  Other EC meters
probably will be different.  See the test report at 

  How did you manage that ?  Looks like that would depend on the water as
much as the CS.
http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator .

   

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Re: CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Dee,

At 02:43 PM 7/5/2008, you wrote:
Well now this post came through with your text  all the same size, while 
mine is slightly smaller as I wrote it, but the one from Jim had all 
different fonts where yours started off the same as in this email and then 
changed size to small at the end.  All very strange.  Dee

   Yes, Indeed it is.

The message that came back to me from the list, had all the same sized 
font.


And the one you quoted, had all the same sized font.

But, In Jims message, his quotes were blue and small, and mine all the same 
sized.


I can only deduct that your mailer does not interpert all the codes exactly 
right.  Some do, and some don't, . I think.


Wayne

Re: CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Pat]

I sure hate to comment on computer problems here since I'd rather keep this 
list about CS and other helpful natural substances, but I just have to mention 
that Wayne seems to be having the same problem I have when using Eudora.  Once 
I quote something, my font changes to whatever font is in the quote.  I haven't 
found a way to change it back.  Here on Yahoo mail I can just change it easily 
(if I'm using rich text rather than plain text).  



Evening Jim,

  At 12:43 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote:

Dear
Wayne:
  As I have said,
no ppm meter exists in the world today.  Just because many people
use the EC meter and call the results ppm metes does not  a ppm
meter exist.
 
Actually there are at least two scientific instruments that directly
measure silver concentration.  One is a probe similar to a pH probe
that specifically measures silver concentration.  The other is a
photo spectrometer.  Neither one is cheap.   I have been
to Frank Key’s lab several times and the device he uses burns the silver
sample in a plasma then measures the frequency spectrum emitted and the
magnatude in relation to a certified standard.
   Interesting indeed.

I made the statement that some high priced instruments exist that will
measure a single salt.
Possibly these fancy devices would be covered by that.

I am not the only person that says this about ppm meters, many others
have said the same thing.



 
It just so happens that the collidal silver made by my generator shows
that uS is a 1 to 1 realation to PPM using the Hanna PWT tester. 
Other EC meters probably will be different.  See the test report at 
  How did you manage that ?  Looks like that would depend on
the water as much as the CS.

http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator .
   Maybe I should have said, no Standard ppm  meter 
or..   No off the shelf ppm meter, that one could afford and use exists.

The EC meters that are showing ppm have internal calculations much like the 
people on the list are using.

Back to your original statement,

 Actually there are at least two scientific instruments that directly measure 
 silver concentration.

I am fully aware that any machine, device or instrument can be designed and 
built to
accomplish virtually any purpose or virtually any task.

And,   I have no doubt that every think you say is  100 % correct.

My only slight difference and problem is that one would consider these
highly sophisticated instruments, costing many thousands of dollars to
be a ppm meter.
They appear to be a single purpose instrument.

I don't think you even said that they were ppm meters.  grin

It disturbs me that the instrument industry is talking about combining EC and 
ppm
 and having only one unit.  Not sure what they could call it.

I believe that many would never accept it. ppm is an absolute.  EC is
also, but they are not the same thing, and never will be.  In rare
cases, pure water and one item, and they will be close, as you stated.

Wayne




  

Re: CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Pat,


At 10:33 PM 7/5/2008, you wrote:
I sure hate to comment on computer problems here since I'd rather keep 
this list about CS and other helpful natural substances,


  That is impossible. If you have messed up fonts and Can't read the messages.

but I just have to mention that Wayne seems to be having the same problem 
I have when using Eudora.


  That is NO Problem.  It is a Fact of Life.  ( NO problem that I see to 
my knowledge )


  If the font was good enough to send to the list, and the person that 
wrote the message

selected it.

 I am not going to change it for love or money.

 Once I quote something, my font changes to whatever font is in the 
quote.  I haven't found a way to change it back.


  Yes, that is exactly what it should to.
  Not change it BACK... Not change it at all.

  I can change it to anything I want, . in a New York Minute, 
or a few seconds.


 Here on Yahoo mail I can just change it easily (if I'm using rich text 
rather than plain text).


   I doubt seriously that Yahoo can do anything that Eudora cannot do.

   Someone, somehow, changed my font. Not me.  It always  comes back to me 
perfect.


I don't know who changed the font to blue and the size.  Not me.
Quoted in your message is the first time this has happened, so I can only 
deduct that

You did it,  Accidently, Intentionally, or Unknowingly.

And I think you are wrong saying I HAVE ANY PROBLEM.

It must be your Yahoo settings.  grin

Wayne

=== My words but not my font or the color.  How Come  ?

I am fully aware that any machine, device or instrument can be designed 
and built to

accomplish virtually any purpose or virtually any task.

And,   I have no doubt that every think you say is  100 % correct.

My only slight difference and problem is that one would consider these 
highly sophisticated instruments, costing many thousands of dollars to be 
a ppm meter.

They appear to be a single purpose instrument.

I don't think you even said that they were ppm meters.  grin

It disturbs me that the instrument industry is talking about combining EC 
and ppm

 and having only one unit.  Not sure what they could call it.

I believe that many would never accept it. ppm is an absolute.  EC is 
also, but they are not the same thing, and never will be.  In rare cases, 
pure water and one item, and they will be close, as you stated.


Wayne

Re: CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Pat]

That was just the way the email came in (to yahoo mail).  I'd started using 
this instead of my Eudora since I didn't want it chiming to let me know when I 
got all this list mail.  In Eudora, if I'm typing in a large font and then 
paste a paragraph of tiny print from some other source, my font after that will 
match the quoted paragraph's font.

   Pat


  

Re: CSFonts and Bogus Software

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 11:31 PM 7/5/2008, you wrote:

That was just the way the email came in (to yahoo mail).


That is the way Yahoo displayed it.

 I'd started using this instead of my Eudora since I didn't want it 
chiming to let me know when I got all this list mail.


I wonder why you set it to do that, then can't turn it off.
Should take a few seconds.

In Eudora, if I'm typing in a large font and then paste a paragraph of 
tiny print from some other source, my font after that will match the 
quoted paragraph's font.

   Your mailers are a disaster for you, no matter what.

Likely that stupid Rich Text is half of your problems.

Most of the problems are YOU, not the mailer.

I will not say anything else.

Wayne

===



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