Re: CS>Fw: [Ntl_news] Wayne Fugitt

[Indi]

He will be sorely missed, here and no doubt everywhere he was known.
Wayne, may your journey into eternity be filled with love and adventure.

Blessings Always,
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:55:45PM -0700, Deborah Gerard wrote:
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>  Subject: [Ntl_news] Wayne Fugitt
>  To: ntl_n...@tcbunch.com
>  Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:52 PM
> 
> 
>  It is with deep regret that I inform everyone of the passing this
>  morning of Mr Wayne Fugitt. He passed away sitting at his computer.
>  He was my friend and will be missed.
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Re: CS>Fw: [Ntl_news] Wayne Fugitt

[Bob Banever]

Deborah,

I am so sorry to hear of Wayne's passing.  We are all friends in cyberspace 
and it hurts when one of us must leave.  Such is life, and may he rest in peace.

   Bob
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  Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:52 PM



  It is with deep regret that I inform everyone of the passing this 
morning of Mr Wayne Fugitt. He passed away sitting at his computer.
  He was my friend and will be missed.
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Re: CS>Fw: [Ntl_news] Wayne Fugitt

[slickpicker]

Damn.  What a character!


 Deborah Gerard  wrote: 

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It is with deep regret that I inform everyone of the passing this morning of Mr 
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CS>R.I.P. Wayne Fugitt

[Hanneke]

I am just staring blankly at my monitor after just learning of Wayne's passing.

May he Rest in Peace.

Hanneke




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CS>Fw: [Ntl_news] Wayne Fugitt

[Deborah Gerard]

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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[john freese]

Yes. Thank you.

--- On Fri, 7/31/09, sms  wrote:


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Subject: Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 4:59 AM


John, 
I have saved quite a few posts on tinnitus remedies over the years. Would
you like me to forward some of the remedies to you. 
S-Max 

From: john freese 
Date: 7/30/2009 8:10:13 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT) 

Thank you for all the suggestions. John. 





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Re: CS>Phages in Popular Science (April 2009)

[Smitty]

> Early this year he fell and a large patch (size of a quarter) of the graft
> was peeled off of his knee and wouldn't heal again. It left a huge, deep
> crater.


That's great that you avoided surgery.
By the way. . . .Is your son diabetic ?
I have a friend who is & his wounds don't heal.


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Re: CS>Phages in Popular Science (April 2009)

[mhale]

Hi Jean,
CS has done as much for my 8 yo son.
We spent 4 months at the Shriner's hospital 3 years ago so that he could 
recover from meningococcal.
He had terrible blisters and sores on his legs from his immune system attacking 
the bacterial invasion.
He ended up having huge skin grafts on his legs where they had to go in and 
carve out the dead masses.
They flushed his wounds twice a day with a special water. (I vaguely remember 
one of the nurses mentioning silver something or another once but, I was in a 
daze most of the time praying, staring at the life monitor and watching the IV 
drip.)
To shorten the story up, he is now a very active and happy child.
A couple of years ago a sore developed on one of the skin grafts on his ankle 
that would not heal and the doctor made an appointment to surgically remove the 
sore and do another skin graft.
I went to the local health food store (that had saved my life many years ago) 
and asked advise.
The gave me comfry root and golden seal root which I mixed together in equal 
parts with just enough Thuja oil to make a paste. I applied it twice a day with 
a bandage for a week and it cleared up.
I can't tell you how happy I was that the surgery was averted.
Early this year he fell and a large patch (size of a quarter) of the graft was 
peeled off of his knee and wouldn't heal again. It left a huge, deep crater.
I went back for more herbs and Thuja Oil and they were out of Thuja Oil. They 
showed me the SS CS gel and I tried it.
It worked faster and better than the herbs. It started looking better almost 
immediately. Within 24 hours anyway.
He is now bouncing around like nothing happened.
I stand ready with my CS generator, water distiller, reverse-osmosis machine 
and gelling compound.
Offering a prayer of thanks,
Mike






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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:24:01 PM
Subject: CS>Phages in Popular Science (April 2009)

Hi Smitty,

Yes, that is the article.

My thought was, why couldn't CS do every bit as much?

Here is a link for more information.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Bacteriophages&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Searc
h

Thank you,

Jean

CS>Phages in Popular Science (April 2009)

[Jean Baugh]

Hi Smitty,

Yes, that is the article.

My thought was, why couldn't CS do every bit as much?

Here is a link for more information.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Bacteriophages&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Searc
h

Thank you,

Jean



>>  Has anyone else read the Popular Science article in the April 2009 issue,
>>  about phages (bacteriophages)?
> 
> Is this the article ?
> 
> http://www.popsci.com/category/tags/bacteriophages
> 
> Smitty
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Re: CS>Phages in Popular Science (April 2009)

[Smitty]

>  Has anyone else read the Popular Science article in the April 2009 issue,
>  about phages (bacteriophages)?

Is this the article ?

http://www.popsci.com/category/tags/bacteriophages

Smitty


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Re: CS>Project [censored] again?

[Indi]

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:30:26AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>
>  Did I say someone shouldn't say or post something...anything..ever?
> 

Indirectly, yes. 

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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[Ruth Bertella]

S-Max,

I'd like to get these also, please.

Thanks in advance!
Ruth
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  Subject: Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)


  John, 
  I have saved quite a few posts on tinnitus remedies over the years. Would
  you like me to forward some of the remedies to you. 
  S-Max 

Re: CS>using microwave parts

[Pierre Genton]

Marshall-

That is really great information.

I was told that I required 'bigger' electrodes and not smaller ones.?? Now
that I think about it all HVAC systems do seem to have skinny tiny bits of
electrodes sticking out of glass tubes just as you describe it.
 I am not sure what the voltage I am using is but it is somewhere between 3
and 6,000 volts DC.
 My max amp draw was 3 to 400ma using 14 guage wires submerged about 5
inches each.
 and yes, things do heat up in hurry that is for sure.

I will have to run some more tests again now but this time exposing only a
tiny bit of the electrodes as you suggest. A good weekend project.

many thanks


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> For the high voltage generation of CS, you use very small electrodes, not
> large ones. You use large ones for low voltage CS.  The trick it to get the
> high density of silver ions away from the electrode before they can
> aggregate sufficiently.  For low voltage that is done by Browning movement
> and stirring, thus the very limited 1 mA per square inch. For high voltage
> systems, you want a huge gradient near the electrode, so that the ions are
> sucked away from the electrode by the electric field.  I am not sure what
> size you would want for 500 volts, but for 10,000 volts I found that the
> electrodes should be about .03 square inch each.  With the system I was
> using with 100 mA of current, that gave a density of about 3 amps per square
> inch.  I am not sure 450 volts is enough to provide the necessary gradient
> to prevent larger particle size.  The way I kept the electrode that small
> was to feed some 14 gauge silver wire into glass tubes, and only allow about
> 1/8 inch to protrude from the end under the water.  Then I mounted it so
> that the tip of the two electrodes were about 1 inch apart.  You may find
> that keeping it cool is a problem because of the high power.
>
> Marshall
>
> Pierre Genton wrote:
>
>>  Thanks for the warning about the cap. I made sure I discharged that
>> before going into the electronics too far.
>>
>>  Yes, I heard that the microwave electronics produced pulsed DC.
>> At this stage I am looking for evidence of the system being able to
>> produce small enough particles before I have a large electrode fabricated
>> just for the purpose. Just seems I couldn't make a big enough electrode
>> practically to be able to make small particles but I don't really know.
>>
>> Boy sure would be good to make a fine quality CS this way since it is so
>> fast at a quart under 2 minutes . However safety and quality are the main
>> requirements for any system and product.
>>
>> Thanks for the tips and any other comments on this or other systems are
>> welcomed.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Ode Coyote > odecoy...@windstream.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> A microwave magnetron runs on HVDC and the box has a power level
>>function to pulse it.
>> Watch that cap! [ZAP]
>>
>>Ode
>>
>>
>>At 11:46 AM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous.  The voltages
>>are high, the capacitances big, and currents unlimited.  There
>>has been some discussion of using microwave transformers, but
>>I thought those were for HVAC not HVDC.  I see no way to
>>produce small particle CS using high voltage DC as the
>>currents would be way over the optimum of 1 mA/in^2
>>
>>Marshall
>>
>>Pierre Genton wrote:
>>
>>Hi-
>>
>> I am new to the group here. I was referred to this list
>>by a fellow who says there was some experience here
>>amongst your ranks using microwave transformers and
>>capacitors etc to make CS using high voltage DC.
>>I wanted to go to the archives to have a look around but
>>that section is not functioning at the moment and so I
>>thought I'd just ask the group instead.
>> I have been using low dc Volt system for making a fine
>>quality CS for 5 years already. Because of demand from
>>family and friends I need to increase my production.
>>
>> I found some instructions on the internet from a kind
>>fellow on how to connect the microwave components together
>>to create such a system but not much more details then
>>that unfortunately.  I tried it and the initial results
>>are encouraging. I only have a TDS meter on hand and so am
>>not really sure about the quality of the product. Also I
>>only had wire type of electrodes and did not have the
>>wider pieces of silver and so I fear I am making too large
>>of particles.
>>
>> Has anybody here used this type of system and if so have
>>they had their product analyzed for true ppm, particle
>>size and  % of ionic/colloid content etc. ?
>>
>>an

Re: CS>using microwave parts

[Marshall Dudley]

For the high voltage generation of CS, you use very small electrodes, 
not large ones. You use large ones for low voltage CS.  The trick it to 
get the high density of silver ions away from the electrode before they 
can aggregate sufficiently.  For low voltage that is done by Browning 
movement and stirring, thus the very limited 1 mA per square inch. For 
high voltage systems, you want a huge gradient near the electrode, so 
that the ions are sucked away from the electrode by the electric field.  
I am not sure what size you would want for 500 volts, but for 10,000 
volts I found that the electrodes should be about .03 square inch each.  
With the system I was using with 100 mA of current, that gave a density 
of about 3 amps per square inch.  I am not sure 450 volts is enough to 
provide the necessary gradient to prevent larger particle size.  The way 
I kept the electrode that small was to feed some 14 gauge silver wire 
into glass tubes, and only allow about 1/8 inch to protrude from the end 
under the water.  Then I mounted it so that the tip of the two 
electrodes were about 1 inch apart.  You may find that keeping it cool 
is a problem because of the high power.


Marshall

Pierre Genton wrote:
 
Thanks for the warning about the cap. I made sure I discharged that 
before going into the electronics too far.


 Yes, I heard that the microwave electronics produced pulsed DC.
At this stage I am looking for evidence of the system being able to 
produce small enough particles before I have a large electrode 
fabricated just for the purpose. Just seems I couldn't make a big 
enough electrode practically to be able to make small particles but I 
don't really know.


Boy sure would be good to make a fine quality CS this way since it is 
so fast at a quart under 2 minutes . However safety and quality are 
the main requirements for any system and product.


Thanks for the tips and any other comments on this or other systems 
are welcomed.
 

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Ode Coyote > wrote:




 A microwave magnetron runs on HVDC and the box has a power level
function to pulse it.
 Watch that cap! [ZAP]

Ode


At 11:46 AM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote:

Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous.  The voltages
are high, the capacitances big, and currents unlimited.  There
has been some discussion of using microwave transformers, but
I thought those were for HVAC not HVDC.  I see no way to
produce small particle CS using high voltage DC as the
currents would be way over the optimum of 1 mA/in^2

Marshall

Pierre Genton wrote:

Hi-

 I am new to the group here. I was referred to this list
by a fellow who says there was some experience here
amongst your ranks using microwave transformers and
capacitors etc to make CS using high voltage DC.
I wanted to go to the archives to have a look around but
that section is not functioning at the moment and so I
thought I'd just ask the group instead.
 I have been using low dc Volt system for making a fine
quality CS for 5 years already. Because of demand from
family and friends I need to increase my production.

 I found some instructions on the internet from a kind
fellow on how to connect the microwave components together
to create such a system but not much more details then
that unfortunately.  I tried it and the initial results
are encouraging. I only have a TDS meter on hand and so am
not really sure about the quality of the product. Also I
only had wire type of electrodes and did not have the
wider pieces of silver and so I fear I am making too large
of particles.

 Has anybody here used this type of system and if so have
they had their product analyzed for true ppm, particle
size and  % of ionic/colloid content etc. ?

any information on this will be appreciated.

best regards,

PG50




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Re: CS>using microwave parts

[Pierre Genton]

Thanks for the warning about the cap. I made sure I discharged that before
going into the electronics too far.

 Yes, I heard that the microwave electronics produced pulsed DC.
At this stage I am looking for evidence of the system being able to produce
small enough particles before I have a large electrode fabricated just for
the purpose. Just seems I couldn't make a big enough electrode practically
to be able to make small particles but I don't really know.

Boy sure would be good to make a fine quality CS this way since it is so
fast at a quart under 2 minutes . However safety and quality are the main
requirements for any system and product.

Thanks for the tips and any other comments on this or other systems are
welcomed.


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Ode Coyote wrote:

>
>
>  A microwave magnetron runs on HVDC and the box has a power level function
> to pulse it.
>  Watch that cap! [ZAP]
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 11:46 AM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous.  The voltages are high, the
>> capacitances big, and currents unlimited.  There has been some discussion of
>> using microwave transformers, but I thought those were for HVAC not HVDC.  I
>> see no way to produce small particle CS using high voltage DC as the
>> currents would be way over the optimum of 1 mA/in^2
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> Pierre Genton wrote:
>>
>>> Hi-
>>>
>>>  I am new to the group here. I was referred to this list by a fellow who
>>> says there was some experience here amongst your ranks using microwave
>>> transformers and capacitors etc to make CS using high voltage DC.
>>> I wanted to go to the archives to have a look around but that section is
>>> not functioning at the moment and so I thought I'd just ask the group
>>> instead.
>>>  I have been using low dc Volt system for making a fine quality CS for 5
>>> years already. Because of demand from family and friends I need to increase
>>> my production.
>>>
>>>  I found some instructions on the internet from a kind fellow on how to
>>> connect the microwave components together to create such a system but not
>>> much more details then that unfortunately.  I tried it and the initial
>>> results are encouraging. I only have a TDS meter on hand and so am not
>>> really sure about the quality of the product. Also I only had wire type of
>>> electrodes and did not have the wider pieces of silver and so I fear I am
>>> making too large of particles.
>>>
>>>  Has anybody here used this type of system and if so have they had their
>>> product analyzed for true ppm, particle size and  % of ionic/colloid content
>>> etc. ?
>>>
>>> any information on this will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>>
>>> PG50
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: CS>microwave CS

[Pierre Genton]

Hi -

Thanks for the info.

Sounds like you have an interesting system. I am attracted to the idea of
HVAC CS on account of producing those smaller particles it is attributed to
having. Are you avoiding arcing as to avoid putting excess nitrogen into the
solution or? I hear said that we don't want any nitrogen as part of our
batches.
 I was wondering then what happens when both electrodes are completely
submerged in your system?

 Say, thanks for those links you gave me. There is some good info in there.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Indi  wrote:

> I use the HVAC cone method myself, with an extremely crude setup but it
> works
> quite well. I just use a neon sign transformer which is rated for 12.5KV AC
> at 300 milliamps (though in fact the average output is more like 4.8KV), a
> one gallon glass jar with a glass lid (from the container store online),
> and
> 14ga . silver wire for electrodes. I use about a half-pint of my
> previous
> batch as starter and top the gallon jar off with distilled water. The
> transformer
> is plugged into a variac, so I can power it up slowly for safety. The
> trickiest
> part is to guard against arcing, but I've gotten pretty good at adjusting
> the electrodes every couple of hours to maintain the cone. The bottom
> electrode is about two feet long, and coiled at the bottom of the jar.
> This setup makes a gallon of good, clear CS in 20-24 hours.
> I don't have much faith in "PPM meters" or "EC meters", and calculation via
> Faraday's law is iffy unless you have perfectly controlled and tightly
> monitored current so I don't bother with those. I planned to early on, but
> then found this setup works fine with a little care and attention.
> Besides, I can tell what good CS tastes like (tastes like silver, of
> course)
> and that works fine for me.
>
> I found some helpful information at
> http://www.silvermedicine.org/bob-berger-silver.html
> and at
> http://fugitt.com/cs_notes/
>
> HTH,
> --
> indi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:42:15AM +0700, Pierre Genton wrote:
> >Hi all-
> >
> >Thanks for your comments on using the microwave components. I have
> tried a
> >few batches using the microwave electronics and fear I am ending up
> with
> >too large of particles. Even though I use only small electrodes
> now(wire)
> >I cannot imagine getting the electrodes big enough to reduce the
> current
> >density. I measured approx 300 ma of current. I would need an�
> electrode
> >about 100 times bigger than the one I now use. any suggestions ?
> >
> >�Has anyone here used just the microwave transformer alone for making
> HVAC
> >CS?
> >
> >Yesterday just for fun I tried a batch using 240 VAC . After some 20
> hrs I
> >have a crystal clear CS at about� 8ppm. I have no idea what the
> quality is
> >but I am betting the particles are really tiny. The red laser pen
> shows a
> >fairly light beam through the solution.
> >
> >�Anybody have any comments on HVAC� and their favorite ways of making
> it ?
> >
> >thanks
> >�
>
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Re: [Fwd: Re: CS>[Fwd: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against Probiotics...]]

[Dan Nave]

I second that...

Dan

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> NEVER ! hold a cat while starting a chain-saw
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>> what is agar?  dee
>> On 27 Jul 2009, at 17:43, Marshall Dudley wrote:
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Re: CS>Silver plate

[Marshall Dudley]

zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
Just go out & put them on the railroad tracks. Let the train do the 
flattening---We did that with pennies when we were kids & It did a 
Great job.. :-)  Lois



You know, I must have done that a dozen times with pennies, and never 
ever once could find the penny after the train ran over it.


Marshall


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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2009 #391 Tinnitus .

[djaja]

Drinking more water and less saltand no stress 

http://ringinginears.net/2007-10-10/tinnitus-treatments-in-israel/

medicine who cause tinnitus.

Trudy


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Re: CS>Electrolytes

[Ode Coyote]

 And your digestive system turns *all of it* into Glucose. [Blood sugar]
 So what's the big deal?
..how much, how fast.

Ode



At 12:40 PM 7/30/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Wikipedia states that corn syrup is 100% glucose,

while high fructose corn syrup ranges from approximately 55% fructose
and 45% glucose to approximately 42% fructose and 58% glucose.

It also says that table sugar is a disaccharide of glucose and fructose.

Dan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

"High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) ­ called isoglucose[1] in Europe aand
glucose-fructose in Canada ­ comprises any of a group of corn syrupps
that has undergone enzymatic processing to convert its glucose into
fructose and has then been mixed with pure corn syrup (100% glucose)
to produce a desired sweetness. In the United States, HFCS is
typically used as a sugar substitute and is ubiquitous in processed
foods and beverages, including soft drinks, yogurt, cookies, salad
dressing and tomato soup.[2]

"The most widely used types of high-fructose corn syrup are: HFCS 55
(mostly used in soft drinks), approximately 55% fructose and 45%
glucose; and HFCS 42 (used in many foods and baked goods),
approximately 42% fructose and 58% glucose.[3] HFCS-90, approximately
90% fructose and 10% glucose, is used in small quantities for
specialty applications, but primarily is used to blend with HFCS 42 to
make HFCS 55. [4]"

Table Sugar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_sugar

Sucrose (common name: table sugar, also called saccharose) is a
disaccharide of glucose and fructose with an α (alpha) 1,2 glycosidic
linkage. The molecular formula of sucrose is C12H22O11. Its systematic
name is β-D-fructofuranosyl-(2â†'1)-α-D-glucopyranoside (ending in
"oside", because it's not a reducing sugar). It is best known for its
role in human nutrition and is formed by plants but not by other
organisms including animals.



On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Sugar, both cane and beet is sucrose. Corn Syrup is fructose.
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> Marshall


> Jean Baugh wrote:
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>> Hi Dee,
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>> I have two bottles of corn syrup. Â One is corn syrup, water, potassium
>> sorbate, vanilla and citric acid. Â The other is light corn syrup, water,
>> high fructose corn syrup, salt and vanilla. Â Actually, neither one of 
them

>> sound good.
>> Perhaps someone who knows chemicals could tell us if there is a difference
>> between sugar and corn syrup?
>>
>>
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> Sugar, both cane and beet is sucrose. Corn Syrup is fructose.
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Re: CS>Gel Powder

[Ode Coyote]

  A blender.
But emulsions aren't particularly long lasting. [Italian salad dressing]
 Shake well before use.
 Something that increases the specific gravity of the oil to match that of 
the water or the water made as light as the oil will make an emulsion into 
something similar to a colloid.
 A thickener in the water [gel powder] will help prevent stratification. 
[Like making Gravy with fat drippings ]


Ode



At 01:15 PM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote:

Cows do it all the time.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emulsion

No idea what to use to create an emulsion of essential oil and CS though...


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indi

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:10:36PM -0500, Dan Nave wrote:
> I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God,
> all things are possible...
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> > What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder?
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Re: CS>Gel Powder

[Ode Coyote]

  You can, with a molecular interface substance that will mix with either.
Like...Alcohol.
 DMSO as another organic solvent, might work...not hard to find out.

ode



At 12:10 PM 7/30/2009 -0500, you wrote:

I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God,
all things are possible...

Dan

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Scotty wrote:
> What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder?
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Re: CS>Project [censored] again?

[Ode Coyote]

 Did I say someone shouldn't say or post something...anything..ever?
Never.

..I pointed out a factual conflict, do with it as you may.

So, not happy to see someone speak out against censorship?
OK, there ya go finding more reasons to not be happy.
..but happy to have *someone else* stick their neck out.

..I have the absolute power of delete, not the least bit worried about it.
The other absolute power is Mikes...the one and only list cop.

No further discussion.

Ode

At 01:09 PM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote:

Oh, so you must think you're the list cop then? :)

I know the rules too, but frankly when the [characterization censored]
posts start up I'm always happy to see anyone speak up against them.
Nips it in the bud, so to speak.

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indi

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-- Dyslexia of Borg


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>>  - Steve N
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Re: CS>using microwave parts

[Ode Coyote]

  A microwave magnetron runs on HVDC and the box has a power level 
function to pulse it.

 Watch that cap! [ZAP]

Ode


At 11:46 AM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote:
Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous.  The voltages are high, the 
capacitances big, and currents unlimited.  There has been some discussion 
of using microwave transformers, but I thought those were for HVAC not 
HVDC.  I see no way to produce small particle CS using high voltage DC as 
the currents would be way over the optimum of 1 mA/in^2


Marshall

Pierre Genton wrote:

Hi-

 I am new to the group here. I was referred to this list by a fellow who 
says there was some experience here amongst your ranks using microwave 
transformers and capacitors etc to make CS using high voltage DC.
I wanted to go to the archives to have a look around but that section is 
not functioning at the moment and so I thought I'd just ask the group instead.
 I have been using low dc Volt system for making a fine quality CS for 5 
years already. Because of demand from family and friends I need to 
increase my production.


 I found some instructions on the internet from a kind fellow on how to 
connect the microwave components together to create such a system but 
not much more details then that unfortunately.  I tried it and the 
initial results are encouraging. I only have a TDS meter on hand and so 
am not really sure about the quality of the product. Also I only had 
wire type of electrodes and did not have the wider pieces of silver and 
so I fear I am making too large of particles.


 Has anybody here used this type of system and if so have they had their 
product analyzed for true ppm, particle size and  % of ionic/colloid 
content etc. ?


any information on this will be appreciated.

best regards,

PG50




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RE: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[Rob Douglas]

I used to have it bad, couldn't stand silence, it was like a jet plane going
through my head.
 
A few years ago I dechemicalized my diet, to try and rid myself of
migraines.  It worked.  And one of the positive side effects was that the
ringing completely stopped, and has never returned.
 
I am extremely diligent in eating, and will not eat any kind of chemical or
food that is remotely manufactured or processed.  I also stay away from soy
or anything made out of soy (that's a huge task).
 
I never rely on what the food packages tell me, I stick to what information
I can find on the internet or in alt health books.  I err on the side of
caution and avoid those things that are still up for debate, if there is
legitimate information that something could be bad, I avoid it.  Also, I
don't take any vitamins or herbs, just diligently stay away from fake food.
Any kind of food can be home made from scratch.
 
The negative things that have disappeared from my life by doing this makes
it all worth while.  No headaches, no ringing, feel better than I did at 17,
far less tooth problems, rarely tired (unless I earned it with hard work,
and it's a good tired then), sleep like the dead, no more muscle pain, no
more cramping feet (that was horrible), far clearer head, can think far
clearer, problems are all solveable, even mood, smarter, etc.
 
If you want more details, just ask.
 
Thora

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From: john freese [mailto:jrf...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)



Hello, 


Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.)



I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.   


Thank you, John. 



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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[sms]

John, 
I have saved quite a few posts on tinnitus remedies over the years. Would
you like me to forward some of the remedies to you. 
S-Max 

From: john freese 
Date: 7/30/2009 8:10:13 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT) 
 
Thank you for all the suggestions. John. 
 
 
 


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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Maybe proteolytic enzymes can help as they do with most things.  dee
On 31 Jul 2009, at 02:37, jessie70 wrote:

A friend had tinnitus for most of his adult life - from being in an  
elevator shaft that blew up on a building construction site.  
Approximately a year ago he mentioned that B complex + magnesium  
helped to clear it up. He also works out a lot and takes herbs for  
brain circulation. So although he credits the magnesium, I think it  
was probably a combination of herbs like ginkgo, periwinkle, etc. Jess

Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS - speaking of gel

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Good site Kathryn.  At least they are reasonable.  dee

On 30 Jul 2009, at 19:47, Clayton Family wrote:

Speaking of gel, there is a local company that is making and selling  
a product made with aloe vera gel and silver. I have heard that the  
silver process is similar to the sovereign silver, ie ionic. He has  
has good reports from it, so it says on his site, which is ionic  
silver works dot com, all in one word, of course.


Kathryn

On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: