date:20091020

Hello All,

 

Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid function
with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? I've been
having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper). I've got an
appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I certainly
would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and possibly a
diagnosis. 

 

Suggestions, comments, thoughts etc. would be appreciated :-)

 

Lisa

Re: CSGetting Started

2009-10-20 Thread Jeff Maahs

It looks like EC meters are much less expensive than what I had seen 
previously. One of the sites given to me earlier had a meter but it was well 
over $100. 

I hate to be a pain but would  a meter such as this one on ebay 
(http://tinyurl.com/yzzzvbn) be appropriate for these solutions?

Jeff









From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 6:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started



   You can use a voltmeter to tell when to stop, but only on a given setup 
that's always the same as referenced by an EC meter.
Current, electrode spacing and surface exposure have to be constants for 
voltage to tell you anything.
  In *making* CS, the voltage is nearly irrelevant, so it needn't be a 
constant.

  A PPM meter is an EC meter that dilutes the info it gets to suit salt 
water.

Ode

Re: CSOne of my clients is on Larry King - tonight

Reminds me of when I worked at a vets and we had a temporary vet  
arrive.  When informed of his workload he said, ' Ok, by the way, what  
vaccine are we flogging at the moment, I hope its one with a holiday  
perk attached!'  dee


On 19 Oct 2009, at 19:54, sol wrote:

Not to continue this topic too long, but just out of curiosity, does  
anyone have any info if Farrah Fawcet was informed of any  
alternatives?

sol
FWIW, though I do not totally agree with his ending take on diet I  
have been reading the book Heart Frauds and the history of how the  
very inaccurate angiograms and problematic balloon angioplasties and  
CABG surgeries became the gold standard of heart care is amazing.  
All about the money, just as in cancer care viz:
I also recently read somewhere of an alternative cancer center that  
was proposed but couldn't get off the ground because they could not  
attract an oncologist to be on staff. All the oncologists they  
interviewed only wanted to discuss what their chemo bonus would  
be. Apparently when the interviewees were apprised there would be no  
chemo bonuses because there would be no chemo, none were  
interested

sol





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Re: CSQuackbusters sue each other

I have read some of this but get lost in legal jargon.  What was the  
case actually *about?*  I know it involved those quackbusters on the  
internet but what were they suing Bolen *for*?  dee


On 19 Oct 2009, at 21:25, Marshall Dudley wrote:


This is getting funny:
*

FEATURE ARTICLE*


Quackbusters Sue Each Other - All is Not Well in Scumville ...

http://bolenreport.com/feature_articles/feature_article079.htm

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CSfrozen shoulder

2009-10-20 Thread kath


Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen shoulder.  My
husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better after
three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really limited
and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the result
of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and acupuncture
with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
Thanks,
Kathy


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Re: CSBreast cancer , Help ! Mercury?


Why is the magnescent iodine so much more expensive than Lugols?  dee

On 20 Oct 2009, at 08:28, Rowena wrote:

For me, definitely Black Salve (cansema)  DMSO, but it is painful  
to DIY.  However, it does get the whole thing out without laying  
waste to al lthe countryside around it.  Iodine esp Magnascent.  magnascent.com 
 has another mix, a Cayce/Hoxsey mix which includes the nascent  
iodine.  The herbs which are specific, findable on line.   
Frequencies (Frex) and energy (Godzilla and upwards).

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Re: CSCS and hunting season (UNCLASSIFIED)


You kill me Ode rofl!  dee

On 20 Oct 2009, at 11:47, Ode Coyote wrote:




 I think that scent is pheromones, not just sweat and bacteria.  
[Both instinked and outstinked ]

I doubt CS  will alter those pheromones.
We used to go hug a billy goat. [pew-ee ! ]

Imagine that there is a growling tiger running down a path..the herd  
defends itself by choosing one of their number to run through the  
forest at full tilt in the dark, missing every tree, then jump down  
the tigers throat and choke it to death.


Put on a car suit and run through the woods on a asphalt path at 55  
MPH making glass-pack muffler noises.be sure to protect your  
grill area from impact. [at least till the charcoal is ready]


Ode





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Re: CSfrozen shoulder

Have you tried supplements and or exercise for the lymph system?  This  
is something that a friend of mine has just had for five months, and  
after all the tests, this is what they have decided it is, and not  
frozen shoulder as they thought.  Lots of CS for infection and  
supplements like arabingalactan for the immune system.  I have had a  
bout of this and this is what I am doing and it seems to be working.   
Often lymph disfunction is thought to be poor circulation - like hands  
and feet 'going dead' while you are asleep, this is not poor  
circulation but blocked lymphs.  dee


On 20 Oct 2009, at 13:39, kath wrote:



Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen  
shoulder.  My
husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better  
after
three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really  
limited
and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the  
result
of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and  
acupuncture

with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
Thanks,
Kathy


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Re: CSintroduction

2009-10-20 Thread lostrin

Hello everyone,

I am Janet, mother of two homeschooled girls and wife to a wonderful
man, Lloyd.  We live in Orillia, a mid-sized town about 90 minutes
north of Toronto so it's really all about the snow for half the year.

I find this list to be quite informative and I'm learning some things
already.  We follow quite an alternative and holistic lifestyle.  I've
found that CS has worked dramatically in a couple of cases, once when
my younger dd had a staph infection and in another case when my older
dd had strep.

Just last week, little dd stabbed dh in the eye with a screwdriver
accidentally and a drop or two of CS cleared up the eyeball gash
surprisingly quickly.

Thank you for having me,

Kind regards,

Janet


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Re: CSfrozen shoulder

2009-10-20 Thread Del

Well, I don't know if this will help, but it is interesting and might be 
useful.


http://drbenkim.com:80/articles-frozen-shoulder.htm

Del
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From: kath kathy.she...@verizon.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: CSfrozen shoulder




Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen shoulder. 
My

husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better after
three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really 
limited

and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the result
of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and 
acupuncture

with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
Thanks,
Kathy


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Re: CSfrozen shoulder

2009-10-20 Thread Del


I should also have mentioned DMSO in my first reply.
I have been applying DMSO to my shoulder and it helps with inflammation and 
pain.
I also use Topricin with the DMSO (usually right after applying DMSO), it 
helps with the inflammation and reduces itching and drying of the skin from 
the DMSO.
I use the following brand of DMSO, which is on the expensive side but is a 
good one to start with for a beginner (like me) because it has few of the 
reported side effects:


http://www.dmso.bz/pages/1/index.htm

Del


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: CSfrozen shoulder




Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen shoulder. 
My

husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better after
three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really 
limited

and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the result
of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and 
acupuncture

with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
Thanks,
Kathy


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RE: CSCS and thyroid

2009-10-20 Thread Nenah Sylver

[Lisa] Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid
function with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else?
I've been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper).
I've got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I
certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and
possibly a diagnosis.

 

== 

Lisa,

I'm one of the most do-it-yourself people around. However, I can tell you
from personal experience that thyroid disorders are among the few conditions
that one should NOT self-treat.

 

The situation you describe, where you're alternately hypo and now possibly
hyper, sounds like it might be an autoimmune condition affecting your
thyroid. In autoimmune conditions, the body attacks various tissues. In
Hashimoto's thyroiditis, an autoimmune condition affecting the thyroid,
there are two sets of antibodies that the body has produced.

 

Metagenics makes two nutritional products, one for each set of antibody
markers, to help stabilize and overcome the autoimmune component of thyroid
disorders. It's reasonable to assume that the presence of mycoplasma and
other bacteria without cell walls (or other genetically engineered
pathogens) inside the tissues have caused the body to attack itself.
However, whether CS would help can only be seen with experimentation, as the
CS must touch pathogens in order to work. I'm not sure CS could reach inside
the cell wall to a transformed microbe; does anyone know?

 

Supplementation with the proper thyroid hormone is paramount. An article I
wrote an article on Hypothyroidism Type 2 was published in the December 2008
issue of Townsend Letter. While it does not address autoimmune problems of
the thyroid per se, it will give you enough information so you can see how
complex the situation is. You can read the article here:

http://www.nenahsylver.com/holistic_health_hypothyroidism.html 

 

There are other articles you can link to as well about the thyroid gland.

 

Before I see an endocrinologist, I would ask what success s/he has had with
natural therapies, and if s/he has used any nutritional supplements in
combination with thyroid hormone-and also what types of thyroid hormone are
being used.

 

Good luck. Let us know how you fare.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

 The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com

Re: CSfrozen shoulder

2009-10-20 Thread jr orrilia

Does anyone in your area do Bowen Therapy?  This type of therapy has helped me 
a great deal in dealing with shoulder pain.  It is a very healing therapy. 
Orrilia

From: kath kathy.she...@verizon.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 8:39:05 AM
Subject: CSfrozen shoulder

Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen shoulder.  My
husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better after
three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really limited
and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the result
of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and acupuncture
with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
Thanks,
Kathy

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Re: CSCS and hunting season (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-10-20 Thread ZZekelink

 
In a message dated 10/20/2009 8:56:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
d...@deetroy.org writes:

Put on a  car suit and run through the woods on a asphalt path at 55  
 MPH  making glass-pack muffler noises.be sure to protect your  
  grill area from impact. [at least till the charcoal is ready]

  Ode




YE HAA{{ but don't forget to roll the windows down  }}  Lois

Re: CSCS and thyroid


Low Dose Naltrexone has been known to decrease the need for
Thyroid supplement in hypothyroidism. It is also said to be a
general hormone balancer. But there is not a lot of clearly
defined information. You just have to get on some of the lists
and talk to people who are using it. There are a couple of
thyroid lists where people are using it:

Thyroid Forum
LDN Discussion
http://www.ahsta.com

Thyroid List
Many on this list take LDN
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones 

Thyroid-Adrenals List
Help distinguishing between Thyroid and Adrenal Issues ~ 
many on the list take LDN



Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Lisa wrote:

Hello All,

 

Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid function 
with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? I’ve 
been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo…now possibly hyper). 
I’ve got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: 
however, I certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for 
tests/results and possibly a diagnosis.


 


Suggestions, comments, thoughts etc. would be appreciated J

 


Lisa




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Re: CSfrozen shoulder


I have used DMSO which helps break down scar tissue and
is antinflammatory. I use 20-30% DMSO which I dilute with
EIS just because it never hurts to get a little silver.

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


kath wrote:

Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen shoulder.  My
husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better after
three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really limited
and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the result
of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and acupuncture
with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
Thanks,
Kathy


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RE: CSCS and thyroid

I'm on the Yahoo LDN group (not much traffic there) and my LDN is on its
way...ordered about 2 weeks ago. Thanks for the other info...will look at
those later today. I do belong to a hypothyroidism group and also
HormonesandHealth-Naturally. I guess what I need first is a diagnosis so I
know what I'm dealing with.

Garnet you're a plethora of information -- glad to know you virtually :o)

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:gar...@grandecom.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and thyroid

Low Dose Naltrexone has been known to decrease the need for
Thyroid supplement in hypothyroidism. It is also said to be a
general hormone balancer. But there is not a lot of clearly
defined information. You just have to get on some of the lists
and talk to people who are using it. There are a couple of
thyroid lists where people are using it:

Thyroid Forum
LDN Discussion
http://www.ahsta.com

Thyroid List
Many on this list take LDN
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones 

Thyroid-Adrenals List
Help distinguishing between Thyroid and Adrenal Issues ~ 
many on the list take LDN


Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Lisa wrote:
 Hello All,
 
  
 
 Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid function 
 with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? I've 
 been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper). 
 I've got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: 
 however, I certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for 
 tests/results and possibly a diagnosis.
 
  
 
 Suggestions, comments, thoughts etc. would be appreciated J
 
  
 
 Lisa
 


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Re: CSfrozen shoulder

2009-10-20 Thread sms

Oh, good suggestion Orrilia!

Kathy,
Here is the Bowen Practitioner Therapist list.  
That is how I found my more than excellent practitioner.

http://www.bowendirectory.com/ 
S-Max
  
From: jr orrilia
Date: 10/20/2009 7:25:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSfrozen shoulder
 
Does anyone in your area do Bowen Therapy?  This type of therapy has helped
me a great deal in dealing with shoulder pain.  It is a very healing therapy
 Orrilia





From: kath kathy.she...@verizon.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 8:39:05 AM
Subject: CSfrozen shoulder


Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen shoulder.  My
husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better after
three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really limited
and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the result
of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and acupuncture
with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
Thanks,
Kathy


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Re: CSfrozen shoulder

2009-10-20 Thread Dan Nave

Surprisingly, Hulda Clark's liver flush has been known to help with
shoulder pain etc.

It might help.  Depends on what's really happening.

Dan
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:39 AM, kath kathy.she...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi, just wondering if anyone has ideas for treatment of frozen shoulder.  My
 husband has both shoulders affected, one is finally getting better after
 three years of pain and immobility, and the other one is now really limited
 and painful.  The doctors say just give it time, and that it is the result
 of poor circulation to the area.  He tried physical therapy and acupuncture
 with limited results, but hit a plateau very quickly with both.
 Thanks,
 Kathy


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CSCS and thyroid

2009-10-20 Thread sms

 
Lisa,
You might consider joining the Iodine List.
3257 members
The purpose and function of the list is to discuss Iodine and Thyroid Health

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/
S-Max
 CS and thyroid
-
 
[Lisa] Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid
function with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else?
Ive been having issues (originally diagnosed at hyponow possibly hyper).
Ive got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I
certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and
possibly a diagnosis.

CS(LL) This is OT but could be helpful--I'm trying it today

2009-10-20 Thread ZZekelink

I have pneumonia in my right lung. {{ as well as a unary tract infection   
a gastric problem }} guess I'm a mess--- Wonder if it would be a good idea  
to add some EIS to the mix ???   A couple drops of DMSO ???Lois
 
 
 
White Pine Needle Tea:  Healing 
Pine needle tea has  been around a  very long time. It was first used by 
Native American’s for  its healing properties. In fact they introduced pine 
needle tea to the early  settlers (in Canada and New England) as a cure for 
scurvy, which is caused by  lack of vitamin C. 
Pine needle tea is  great for colds, chest congestion and upper respiratory 
illnesses, though it is  also rumored to help with many other ailments as 
well. You can do your own  search on the web to find out more. It is packed 
with antioxidants, vitamin C  and vitamin A. 
I want  to give thanks to Grandmother Bobbie for introducing me to pine 
needle tea and  its healing effects. I experienced its healing first hand. This 
tea made my  chest congestion disappear in less than a day. I thought for 
sure I was going to  get bronchitis or pneumonia! But instead, I drank pine 
needle tea and it helped  heal my chest and sinuses. I could literally feel 
my chest “loosen up” and my  breathing became much easier. 
Luckily pine trees  are found in abundance all over the U.S. so it’s an 
easy and free tea that you  can make at home. We just happen to have a white 
pine tree in our back yard, so  it’s very easy to make this tea all year 
round, even in the midst of  winter.  
1/2 cup of pine  needles--green young needles are best..  
*   1.5 pints of  water  
*   Bring water to  boil in a stainless steel pan (do not use aluminum) 
 
*   Add the pine  needles, reduce heat to a simmer for 20 minutes to 
overnight.  
*   Strain needles  and drink warm or cold  
*   you can also put  them in unbleached tea bags  
*   The tea should be  red in color with a little oil floating on top.  
You can add honey or cinnamon if you like, (since I have type 2  diabetes I 
add cinnamon). It really doesn’t taste like pine; it has a very  mild 
flavor.White pine needles have 5 needles on  each sprig…
but you can use any pine or fir tree (though the recipe  may differ).

Re: CSCS and thyroid

2009-10-20 Thread Del

On the other hand...
My wife was diagnosed as hypo-thyroid.
Her doctor wanted her to take synthroid.
She researched the side effects and decided no way!
Instead, she took a natural, organic hormone recommended by Jonathan Wright 
(Naturoid or something like that?).
This gave her some scary chest pains, so she discontinued it.
After more research, she took between 1 and 2 tablespoons of virgin coconut oil 
per day.
After a few months of this, her thyroid test was back to normal.
She still takes a teaspoon per day for maintenance.

Del
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:20 AM
  Subject: RE: CSCS and thyroid


  [Lisa] Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid 
function with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? 
I've been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper). I've 
got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I 
certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and 
possibly a diagnosis.

   

  == 

  Lisa,

  I'm one of the most do-it-yourself people around. However, I can tell you 
from personal experience that thyroid disorders are among the few conditions 
that one should NOT self-treat.

   

  The situation you describe, where you're alternately hypo and now possibly 
hyper, sounds like it might be an autoimmune condition affecting your thyroid. 
In autoimmune conditions, the body attacks various tissues. In Hashimoto's 
thyroiditis, an autoimmune condition affecting the thyroid, there are two sets 
of antibodies that the body has produced.

   

  Metagenics makes two nutritional products, one for each set of antibody 
markers, to help stabilize and overcome the autoimmune component of thyroid 
disorders. It's reasonable to assume that the presence of mycoplasma and other 
bacteria without cell walls (or other genetically engineered pathogens) inside 
the tissues have caused the body to attack itself. However, whether CS would 
help can only be seen with experimentation, as the CS must touch pathogens in 
order to work. I'm not sure CS could reach inside the cell wall to a 
transformed microbe; does anyone know?

   

  Supplementation with the proper thyroid hormone is paramount. An article I 
wrote an article on Hypothyroidism Type 2 was published in the December 2008 
issue of Townsend Letter. While it does not address autoimmune problems of the 
thyroid per se, it will give you enough information so you can see how complex 
the situation is. You can read the article here:

  http://www.nenahsylver.com/holistic_health_hypothyroidism.html 

   

  There are other articles you can link to as well about the thyroid gland.

   

  Before I see an endocrinologist, I would ask what success s/he has had with 
natural therapies, and if s/he has used any nutritional supplements in 
combination with thyroid hormone-and also what types of thyroid hormone are 
being used.

   

  Good luck. Let us know how you fare.

   

  Nenah

   

  Nenah Sylver, PhD

  author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

  now available in HARDCOVER

   The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

  www.nenahsylver.com

CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines


http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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CSthyroid issues

2009-10-20 Thread Shirley Reed

   Is anyone researching using Lugol's Iodine for help with thyroid issues??  
Pretty good info out there.  Brownstein has a book called Iodine:  Why You Need 
It; Why You Can't Live Without It   good reading and will be challenging for 
some in places.  But what to do is pretty clear along with when things don't go 
exactly right. Low iodine status is clearly (imho) a huge factor in hypo and 
hyper thyroid too, but cancer is the biggie that seems to respond so well to 
sufficient iodine.  At least in prevention, maybe not quite as much so, in 
treatment.  My opinion, which I think is an informed and considered one.  pj


  


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Re: CS(LL) This is OT but could be helpful--I'm trying it today


For lung infections I use DMSO 20% and EIS 80% in a nebulizer
for ten minutes every hour or so.

Urinary tract infections really do benefit from the sugar 
Mannose,
which is what is in cranberry juice, and prevents the 
bacteria from

sticking to the bladder walls.

Not sure what type of gastric problem but aloe vera juice 
can sure

soothe an irritated or inflamed tummy. DMSO orally has been used
to treat stomach ulcers.

Garnet

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Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
I have pneumonia in my right lung. {{ as well as a unary tract infection 
 a gastric problem }} guess I'm a mess--- Wonder if it would be a good 
idea to add some EIS to the mix ???   A couple drops of DMSO ???Lois
 


*White Pine Needle Tea: Healing*

 

Pine needle tea has been around a  very long time. It was first used by 
Native American’s for its healing properties. In fact they introduced 
pine needle tea to the early settlers (in Canada and New England) as a 
cure for scurvy, which is caused by lack of vitamin C.


 

Pine needle tea is great for colds, chest congestion and upper 
respiratory illnesses, though it is also rumored to help with many other 
ailments as well. You can do your own search on the web to find out 
more. It is packed with antioxidants, vitamin C and vitamin A.


   I want to give thanks to Grandmother Bobbie for introducing 
me to pine needle tea and its healing effects. I experienced its healing 
first hand. This tea made my chest congestion disappear in less than a 
day. I thought for sure I was going to get bronchitis or pneumonia! But 
instead, I drank pine needle tea and it helped heal my chest and 
sinuses. I could literally feel my chest “loosen up” and my breathing 
became much easier.


 Luckily pine trees are found in abundance all over the U.S. so 
it’s an easy and free tea that you can make at home. We just happen to 
have a white pine tree in our back yard, so it’s very easy to make this 
tea all year round, even in the midst of winter. 


1/2 cup of pine needles--green young needles are best..

*

  1.5 pints of water

*

  Bring water to boil in a stainless steel pan (do not use aluminum)

*

  Add the pine needles, reduce heat to a simmer for 20 minutes to
  overnight.

*

  Strain needles and drink warm or cold

*

  you can also put them in unbleached tea bags

*

  The tea should be red in color with a little oil floating on top. 
  You can add honey or cinnamon if you like, (since I have type 2

  diabetes I add cinnamon). It really doesn’t taste like pine; it
  has a very mild flavor./White pine needles have 5 needles on each
  sprig…
   but you can use any pine or fir tree (though the recipe may differ)./

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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

2009-10-20 Thread Clayton Family


Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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Re: CSBreast cancer , Help ! Mercury?

2009-10-20 Thread Tony Moody

Hi Dee,

I looked into and bought some of the equipment to make Magnascent. Beside 
the equipment, it is very expensive on both time and electric power. 
Whereas lugols is a compound; a mixture of some reagents with no special 
equipment required.

OK,
Tony

On 20 Oct 2009 at 13:43, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSBreast cancer , Help ! Mercu

 Why is the magnescent iodine so much more expensive than Lugols?  dee
 
 On 20 Oct 2009, at 08:28, Rowena wrote:
 
  For me, definitely Black Salve (cansema)  DMSO, but it is painful  to
  DIY.  However, it does get the whole thing out without laying  waste to
  al lthe countryside around it.  Iodine esp Magnascent.  magnascent.com 
   has another mix, a Cayce/Hoxsey mix which includes the nascent  
  iodine.  The herbs which are specific, findable on line.   
  Frequencies (Frex) and energy (Godzilla and upwards).
  heal-me.com.au and
 
 
 
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RE: CSthyroid issues

2009-10-20 Thread Gina Moore

You've gotten a lot of good info on thryoid!  I've been studying thyroid and
adrenal issues for a little over a year, and everything that has been said
here is consistent with what I've found!  Just do your research and find out
what works for you.  Coconut oil is fantastic for thyroid, and the sites you
were given are the same sites I go to.  Here's one more...
http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/

I will agree that thyroid is not really a good do-it-yourself type of thing.
You need proper testing (Free T3 and Reverse T3, along with the typical TSH
and T4 that docs order) at the very least.   It's hard to find a good doc,
but try first!

Check out all the sites you've been given.  You'll find a ton of info and
can make a better decision on what will work for you.  Monitor your symptoms
daily so you can get a feel for where you are (temps, BP, pulse...
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/temperature/).  Be sure to address any
adrenal problems that may become apparent.  Taking your temp can help you
determine adrenal/thyroid status.  I do it everyday!

Good luck!
Gina


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CSOT OT Computer Stuff OT OT

2009-10-20 Thread sms

Does anyone know how to Export YEARS of Incredimail folders and files
containing thousands of documents to another mail client?
I need some techy help.  I investigated much online and it's a whole
different language to which my brain is not wired.  So if any of you techys
out there in Silverlistlandia know how to do this can you kindly e-mail me
privately.
Thank you very much.
S-Max

Re: CSintroduction


Welcome to the list Janet.  dee

On 20 Oct 2009, at 14:11, lostrin wrote:


Hello everyone,

I am Janet, mother of two homeschooled girls and wife to a wonderful
man, Lloyd.  We live in Orillia, a mid-sized town about 90 minutes
north of Toronto so it's really all about the snow for half the year.

I find this list to be quite informative and I'm learning some things
already.  We follow quite an alternative and holistic lifestyle.  I've
found that CS has worked dramatically in a couple of cases, once when
my younger dd had a staph infection and in another case when my older
dd had strep.

Just last week, little dd stabbed dh in the eye with a screwdriver
accidentally and a drop or two of CS cleared up the eyeball gash
surprisingly quickly.

Thank you for having me,

Kind regards,

Janet


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Re: CSfrozen shoulder

Maybe because it helps clear the lymphs, which run right up between  
the shoulders.  dee


On 20 Oct 2009, at 15:49, Dan Nave wrote:


Surprisingly, Hulda Clark's liver flush has been known to help with
shoulder pain etc.

It might help.  Depends on what's really happening.

Dan
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Re: CSQuackbusters sue each other

They sued Bolen and Clark and others for libel for telling the truth. It 
was a SLAPP suit and recognized as such by the court. (that is a suit 
without merit which is simply filed to try to stop someone from doing 
something legal by harassment and costs).  They ( Barrett, the Canadian 
Guy, and the attorney filing the suite who was also part of the suit) 
lost that suit, and the judge found that it was a slapp suite, and ruled 
that they had to pay for all the costs, about $30,000.  One of the 
parties in the original suit was the Canadian guy who runs the Canadian 
equivalent of quackbusters, and had been successful in preventing 
various health advocates such as Clark from speaking in Canada by 
threats of bodily harm.  Anyway, on appeal 2 of the 3 judgments were 
supported, but the judgment against the Canadian was overturned.  An 
offer was made to the attorney that if the Canadian guy dropped out of 
the lawsuit then they would drop him from the creditors who owed the 
$30,000 on the slapp suit since most likely the supreme court would find 
in favor of the original court.  The attorney did not inform the 
Canadian of this offer, which he would have accepted, and appealed to 
the California supreme court without his concent, at a cost of around 
$300,000.  They lost on all 3 counts, and a slapp aware was granted on 
the $300,000 against the 3 plaintiffs.  Then the plaintiff's attorney 
split up the costs assigned to the 3 so that almost all the cost went to 
the Canadian, who was then sued in Canadian court and lost.  So he is 
suing the attorney for filing a suit that he did not authorize, and then 
assigning almost all the charges from that suit to him to pay.  But he 
may not get his money even if he wins, the attorney has it seems gone 
bankrupt (monetarily as well as morally), even losing his house.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I have read some of this but get lost in legal jargon.  What was the 
case actually *about?*  I know it involved those quackbusters on the 
internet but what were they suing Bolen *for*?  dee


On 19 Oct 2009, at 21:25, Marshall Dudley wrote:


This is getting funny:
*

FEATURE ARTICLE*


Quackbusters Sue Each Other - All is Not Well in Scumville ...

http://bolenreport.com/feature_articles/feature_article079.htm

Marshall





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Re: CSthyroid issues

I have been using Lugols but I just had a communication from Mercola  
and he says NOT to use Lugols for thyroid as it will only make it  
worse.  Comments?  dee


On 20 Oct 2009, at 17:05, Shirley Reed wrote:

  Is anyone researching using Lugol's Iodine for help with thyroid  
issues??  Pretty good info out there.  Brownstein has a book called  
Iodine:  Why You Need It; Why You Can't Live Without It   good  
reading and will be challenging for some in places.  But what to do  
is pretty clear along with when things don't go exactly right. Low  
iodine status is clearly (imho) a huge factor in hypo and hyper  
thyroid too, but cancer is the biggie that seems to respond so well  
to sufficient iodine.  At least in prevention, maybe not quite as  
much so, in treatment.  My opinion, which I think is an informed and  
considered one.  pj






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Re: CSQuackbusters sue each other

Thanks for the info Marshall, but what were they telling the truth  
*about*?  Or has this got lost in the mists of time lol?  dee


On 20 Oct 2009, at 19:07, Marshall Dudley wrote:

They sued Bolen and Clark and others for libel for telling the  
truth. It was a SLAPP suit and recognized as such by the court.  
(that is a suit without merit which is simply filed to try to stop  
someone from doing something legal by harassment and costs).  They  
( Barrett, the Canadian Guy, and the attorney filing the suite who  
was also part of the suit) lost that suit, and the judge found that  
it was a slapp suite, and ruled that they had to pay for all the  
costs, about $30,000.  One of the parties in the original suit was  
the Canadian guy who runs the Canadian equivalent of quackbusters,  
and had been successful in preventing various health advocates such  
as Clark from speaking in Canada by threats of bodily harm.  Anyway,  
on appeal 2 of the 3 judgments were supported, but the judgment  
against the Canadian was overturned.  An offer was made to the  
attorney that if the Canadian guy dropped out of the lawsuit then  
they would drop him from the creditors who owed the $30,000 on the  
slapp suit since most likely the supreme court would find in favor  
of the original court.  The attorney did not inform the Canadian of  
this offer, which he would have accepted, and appealed to the  
California supreme court without his concent, at a cost of around  
$300,000.  They lost on all 3 counts, and a slapp aware was granted  
on the $300,000 against the 3 plaintiffs.  Then the plaintiff's  
attorney split up the costs assigned to the 3 so that almost all the  
cost went to the Canadian, who was then sued in Canadian court and  
lost.  So he is suing the attorney for filing a suit that he did not  
authorize, and then assigning almost all the charges from that suit  
to him to pay.  But he may not get his money even if he wins, the  
attorney has it seems gone bankrupt (monetarily as well as morally),  
even losing his house.


Marshall




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RE: CSthyroid issues

2009-10-20 Thread Gina Moore

I would like know what he said, just for my own knowledge!

I know that if you take iodine or thyroid hormones without first supporting
adrenals, you can have a very bad reaction.  It's because the adrenal
hormone cortisol is needed to process the thyroid/iodine, and if there isn't
enough, it will make you have hypERthyroid like reaction - heart palps,
anxiety, nervousness, etc...  This is why you need to check adrenals and
thyroid together!  They go hand in hand.

Gina

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSthyroid issues

I have been using Lugols but I just had a communication from Mercola  
and he says NOT to use Lugols for thyroid as it will only make it  
worse.  Comments?  dee

On 20 Oct 2009, at 17:05, Shirley Reed wrote:

   Is anyone researching using Lugol's Iodine for help with thyroid  
 issues??  Pretty good info out there.  Brownstein has a book called  
 Iodine:  Why You Need It; Why You Can't Live Without It   good  
 reading and will be challenging for some in places.  But what to do  
 is pretty clear along with when things don't go exactly right. Low  
 iodine status is clearly (imho) a huge factor in hypo and hyper  
 thyroid too, but cancer is the biggie that seems to respond so well  
 to sufficient iodine.  At least in prevention, maybe not quite as  
 much so, in treatment.  My opinion, which I think is an informed and  
 considered one.  pj





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Re: CSCS and thyroid





Hi Lisa,

I became hypo-thyroid in May 2007...Had saliva tests to confirm it,
began taking this glandular (with thyroxin removed):

http://tinyurl.com/yg6r5fz

Then I discovered high-dosage iodine (brand name is Iodoral) and worked
up to 75mg of Iodoral a day...and had to stop taking the glandular in a
period of three months.

You have been given the link to the iodine and thyroid list, but I will
repeat it here:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

Stephanie was running the list, it has very high traffic, but very good
information.

The high dosage iodine has significant benefits for the entire body,
including detoxing fluorines, bromines, chlorines.

Highly recommended...and I know that our fearless leader was doing this
as well.

Kind regards,

Craig

Lisa wrote:

  
  
  

  
  Hello All,
  
  Has anybody had any
experience (or luck) in normalizing
thyroid function with CS? Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or
anything
else? Ive been having issues (originally diagnosed at hyponow
possibly hyper). Ive got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of
the month: however, I certainly would like to self-treat and use the
dr. for
tests/results and possibly a diagnosis. 
  
  Suggestions, comments,
thoughts etc. would be appreciated J
  
  Lisa
  






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Re: CSthyroid issues


Baloney...

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

and

http://www.iodine4health.com/

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
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and he says NOT to use Lugols for thyroid as it will only make it 
worse.  Comments?  dee



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Re: CSthyroid issues


Hi Gina, I've sent you the info privately.  dee

On 20 Oct 2009, at 19:31, Gina Moore wrote:


I would like know what he said, just for my own knowledge!

I know that if you take iodine or thyroid hormones without first  
supporting

adrenals, you can have a very bad reaction.  It's because the adrenal
hormone cortisol is needed to process the thyroid/iodine, and if  
there isn't
enough, it will make you have hypERthyroid like reaction - heart  
palps,
anxiety, nervousness, etc...  This is why you need to check adrenals  
and

thyroid together!  They go hand in hand.

Gina

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Re: CSthyroid issues

Can you qualify that please?  I know that people advocate iodine but  
it would be nice to know the science behind it, and also *why* Mercola  
should have made such a remark.  He advocates seaweed type things  
instead.  dee


On 20 Oct 2009, at 20:04, Craig Chamberlin wrote:


Baloney...

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

and

http://www.iodine4health.com/

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Re: CSthyroid issues


Hi Dee,

It is a huge subject, and it is qualified at the iodine4health 
site...including why seaweed isn't necessarily a great choice.  Did you 
read the iodine4health site?  It includes pros and cons.


Regards,

Craig

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Can you qualify that please?  I know that people advocate iodine but 
it would be nice to know the science behind it, and also *why* Mercola 
should have made such a remark.  He advocates seaweed type things 
instead.  dee



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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

2009-10-20 Thread arthur rambo

For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is suspected,  
started feeling something come on very soon after getting home; have been 
taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head feeling keeps recurring, 
but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the past with success 
in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( 
I was not in a place with people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble with all 
this c. 
   
   




From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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Re: CSQuackbusters sue each other

I think basically an expose'  on the quackbusters operation.  Bolan 
especially can be pretty liberal with his comments using words like scum 
and so forth.  I think basically the courts found that the use of such 
derogatory terms were merited by the actions of quackbusters and associates.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Thanks for the info Marshall, but what were they telling the truth 
*about*?  Or has this got lost in the mists of time lol?  dee


On 20 Oct 2009, at 19:07, Marshall Dudley wrote:

They sued Bolen and Clark and others for libel for telling the truth. 
It was a SLAPP suit and recognized as such by the court. (that is a 
suit without merit which is simply filed to try to stop someone from 
doing something legal by harassment and costs).  They ( Barrett, the 
Canadian Guy, and the attorney filing the suite who was also part of 
the suit) lost that suit, and the judge found that it was a slapp 
suite, and ruled that they had to pay for all the costs, about 
$30,000.  One of the parties in the original suit was the Canadian 
guy who runs the Canadian equivalent of quackbusters, and had been 
successful in preventing various health advocates such as Clark from 
speaking in Canada by threats of bodily harm.  Anyway, on appeal 2 of 
the 3 judgments were supported, but the judgment against the Canadian 
was overturned.  An offer was made to the attorney that if the 
Canadian guy dropped out of the lawsuit then they would drop him from 
the creditors who owed the $30,000 on the slapp suit since most 
likely the supreme court would find in favor of the original court.  
The attorney did not inform the Canadian of this offer, which he 
would have accepted, and appealed to the California supreme court 
without his concent, at a cost of around $300,000.  They lost on all 
3 counts, and a slapp aware was granted on the $300,000 against the 3 
plaintiffs.  Then the plaintiff's attorney split up the costs 
assigned to the 3 so that almost all the cost went to the Canadian, 
who was then sued in Canadian court and lost.  So he is suing the 
attorney for filing a suit that he did not authorize, and then 
assigning almost all the charges from that suit to him to pay.  But 
he may not get his money even if he wins, the attorney has it seems 
gone bankrupt (monetarily as well as morally), even losing his house.


Marshall




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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines


C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is 
suspected,  started feeling something come on very soon after getting 
home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head 
feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've 
done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able 
to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with 
people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble 
with all this c.
  
  



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Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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Re: CSthyroid issues

2009-10-20 Thread Dan Nave

What Mercola acutally wrote was this:

Getting Your Iodine Levels Up

If you are iodine deficient, I recommend adding sea vegetables to your diet.

The best source of organically bound iodine that I know of is
non-commercially harvested seaweeds. The dose is about 5 grams a day
or about one ounce per week, so a pound would last about two months.

It is typically better to obtain a nutrient from a natural food
whenever possible than from a supplement, so use supplements only as a
last resort.

Some patients also report that they respond better to food-based forms
of iodine -- like seaweeds -- than the supplement forms. However, if
you are going to use a supplement I would strongly advise using
supersaturated iodine (SSKI) which is available as an inexpensive
prescription. Typically 1-3 drops a day are all that are required.

Please avoid using Lugol’s solution or iodine, as that will actually
worsen your thyroid condition.

Keeping your iodine levels optimal is particularly important if you
are a women that is contemplating pregnancy, or are already pregnant
Make sure you are taking seaweed or a prenatal vitamin with the right
amount and form of iodide, not iodine, to help protect your baby.



On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Craig Chamberlin
craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:
 Hi Dee,

 It is a huge subject, and it is qualified at the iodine4health
 site...including why seaweed isn't necessarily a great choice.  Did you read
 the iodine4health site?  It includes pros and cons.

 Regards,

 Craig

 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

 Can you qualify that please?  I know that people advocate iodine but it
 would be nice to know the science behind it, and also *why* Mercola should
 have made such a remark.  He advocates seaweed type things instead.  dee


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Re: CSthyroid issues

Hi Dan,

Actually, there are over 20,000 case studies that are discussed at the
iodine4health.com site, which are in direct contradiction to what you
are saying about Lugol's. Iodoral is Lugol's in pill form and a lot
easier to take.

Also the history of Lugol's use for many, many problems goes back a
very long time.

Take a look at the iodine site, you will find it interesting. These
folks are doing more research on the use of what amounts to Lugol's
being used in humans, than perhaps any other supplement.

Regards,

Craig

Dan Nave wrote:

What Mercola acutally wrote was this:

Getting Your Iodine Levels Up

If you are iodine deficient, I recommend adding sea vegetables to your diet.

The best source of organically bound iodine that I know of is
non-commercially harvested seaweeds. The dose is about 5 grams a day
or about one ounce per week, so a pound would last about two months.

It is typically better to obtain a nutrient from a natural food
whenever possible than from a supplement, so use supplements only as a
last resort.

Some patients also report that they respond better to food-based forms
of iodine -- like seaweeds -- than the supplement forms. However, if
you are going to use a supplement I would strongly advise using
supersaturated iodine (SSKI) which is available as an inexpensive
prescription. Typically 1-3 drops a day are all that are required.

Please avoid using Lugol’s solution or iodine, as that will actually
worsen your thyroid condition.

Keeping your iodine levels optimal is particularly important if you
are a women that is contemplating pregnancy, or are already pregnant
Make sure you are taking seaweed or a prenatal vitamin with the right
amount and form of iodide, not iodine, to help protect your baby.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Craig Chamberlin
craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:

Hi Dee,

It is a huge subject, and it is qualified at the iodine4health
site...including why seaweed isn't necessarily a great choice. Did you read
the iodine4health site? It includes pros and cons.

Regards,

Craig

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Can you qualify that please? I know that people advocate iodine but it
would be nice to know the science behind it, and also *why* Mercola should
have made such a remark. He advocates seaweed type things instead. dee

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CSfrozen shoulder treatment

2009-10-20 Thread Anomie

Myofascial Trigger Point Therapy is very very effective for Frozen  
shoulder!   I am in the Pittsburgh PA area if I can help anyone with  
it there!
This is a note that I send out in response to requests for therapists  
in a persons area. VERY effective for all kinds of pain issues. It  
has changed my life for the better, I used to get migraines and was  
dx with Fibromyalgia and Myofascial Pain!


If I can answer questions, please contact me directly... I dont  
always check this very very busy forum...


Sadly the training programs are few and far between, this means there  
are not enough well trained therapists. You will find them listed in  
the member directory that can be found at http:// 
www.myofascialtherapy.org/. You will see a blue box on the left side.  
Hopefully you may be able to see someone close to you in that listing.


You can also email the therapists there and ask if they know of  
anyone close to you if they are not close enough. There may be  
someone that they know that is good, but not in our organization.  
Another possibility is to send me another note and I will post your  
request on our professional email group which includes some therapist  
that are not on the website listing.


You may also find some help by joining the myotherapy yahoo group  
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/myotherapy/On this group  
there are other folks with myofascial pain and therapists that are  
doing trigger point work. You can ask questions and request help.  
This group is not affiliated with the NAMTPT in any way.


You can try  to find a therapist at
http://www.myopainseminars.com/seminars/travell/series_grads
 http://www.bonnieprudden.com/helpline.html
http://www.nmtcenter.com/practitioner/

Our website also lists several training programs and you might try  
contacting them for a lead.


I can't personally vouch for any practitioners listed in these sites  
but it is a good start.  Ask them about their training. I hope this  
helps.


Another possibility is to come to the training programs yourself or  
encourage a friend or loved one to do so. That may sound far- 
reaching, but that is actually what most of us have done. So many  
MTPT where having pain themselves (some debilitating) and found it so  
extremely helpful that we changed our lives and went to school to  
learn to help ourselves and others! (part of class is working on each  
other)


You can also look for  books by Claire Davies  Trigger Point Therapy  
Workbook and Frozen Shoulder Workbook... big help for self care.



Please let me know if I can help you further or if you are having  
problems.  cm...@zbzoom.net




In Service
Mary Jo


The Universe has always been generous with me, offering me the best  
of all possibilities. Abundance is within my reach and it is grinning  
at us!

Re: CSthyroid issues

2009-10-20 Thread Deborah Gerard

there is a Iodine group on yahoo if you would like that,
debbie

From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 12:05:26 PM
Subject: CSthyroid issues

  Is anyone researching using Lugol's Iodine for help with thyroid issues??  
Pretty good info out there.  Brownstein has a book called Iodine:  Why You Need 
It; Why You Can't Live Without It  good reading and will be challenging for 
some in places.  But what to do is pretty clear along with when things don't go 
exactly right. Low iodine status is clearly (imho) a huge factor in hypo and 
hyper thyroid too, but cancer is the biggie that seems to respond so well to 
sufficient iodine.  At least in prevention, maybe not quite as much so, in 
treatment.  My opinion, which I think is an informed and considered one.  pj

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Re: CSthyroid issues

2009-10-20 Thread Dan Nave

Hi Craig,

I wasn't saying anything about Lugol's.

However, on reading Mercola's comments, which I have no investment in
(of any sort, neither financial or emotional), it appears that he is
making a distinction between iodine and iodide.  Lugol's apparently
has both in it.  Whether this is a valid concern, I am not able to
discern...  That being said, it appears that even he is not able to be
consistent in his references to iodine and iodide in his own
writing...

I haven't been able to read it yet, but the site you indicated, under
Iodine Chemistry may speak to this issue.

Dan


On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Craig Chamberlin
craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:
 Hi Dan,

 Actually, there are over 20,000 case studies that are discussed at the
 iodine4health.com site, which are in direct contradiction to what you are
 saying about Lugol's.  Iodoral is Lugol's in pill form and a lot easier to
 take.

 Also the history of Lugol's use for many, many problems goes back a very
 long time.

 Take a look at the iodine site, you will find it interesting.  These folks
 are doing more research on the use of what amounts to Lugol's being used in
 humans, than perhaps any other supplement.

 Regards,

 Craig

 Dan Nave wrote:

 What Mercola acutally wrote was this:
 Getting Your Iodine Levels Up
 If you are iodine deficient, I recommend adding sea vegetables to your diet.
 The best source of organically bound iodine that I know of is
 non-commercially harvested seaweeds. The dose is about 5 grams a day
 or about one ounce per week, so a pound would last about two months.
 It is typically better to obtain a nutrient from a natural food
 whenever possible than from a supplement, so use supplements only as a
 last resort.
 Some patients also report that they respond better to food-based forms
 of iodine -- like seaweeds -- than the supplement forms. However, if
 you are going to use a supplement I would strongly advise using
 supersaturated iodine (SSKI) which is available as an inexpensive
 prescription. Typically 1-3 drops a day are all that are required.
 Please avoid using Lugol’s solution or iodine, as that will actually
 worsen your thyroid condition.
 Keeping your iodine levels optimal is particularly important if you
 are a women that is contemplating pregnancy, or are already pregnant
 Make sure you are taking seaweed or a prenatal vitamin with the right
 amount and form of iodide, not iodine, to help protect your baby.
 On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Craig Chamberlin
 craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:


 Hi Dee,
 It is a huge subject, and it is qualified at the iodine4health
 site...including why seaweed isn't necessarily a great choice.  Did you read
 the iodine4health site?  It includes pros and cons.
 Regards,
 Craig
 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


 Can you qualify that please?  I know that people advocate iodine but it
 would be nice to know the science behind it, and also *why* Mercola should
 have made such a remark.  He advocates seaweed type things instead.  dee


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Re: CSthyroid issues


Hi Dan,

I see now that it was in the quote from Mercola...I didn't see that:)

My mistake.

I find Mercola's inconsistency to be disturbing and his statement very 
misleading.  The body requires both iodine and potassium iodide which is 
why Lugol's or Iodoral are great supplements.  Having said that, I 
believe sol is highly allergic to iodine yet Brownstein (he is part of 
the group) has only found (at last reading) person who was allergic and 
that was over come.  Be interesting if she we close enough to Brownstein 
could examine her:)


Yes, Iodoral is 5mg iodine and 7.5mg potassium iodide, Lugol's is made 
with 5g iodine, 10g iodide and mixed with 85  ml distilled water...and 
ends up at the same ratio because of a chemical reaction which I don't 
understand.


Regards,

Craig

Dan Nave wrote:

Hi Craig,

I wasn't saying anything about Lugol's.

However, on reading Mercola's comments, which I have no investment in
(of any sort, neither financial or emotional), it appears that he is
making a distinction between iodine and iodide.  Lugol's apparently
has both in it.  Whether this is a valid concern, I am not able to
discern...  That being said, it appears that even he is not able to be
consistent in his references to iodine and iodide in his own
writing...

I haven't been able to read it yet, but the site you indicated, under
Iodine Chemistry may speak to this issue.

Dan
  




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CSMercola's Newsletters

I unsubbed from Mercola's newsletters after his technical 
writers
published misinformation about CS. If they can not be 
bothered to fact

check I am not going to bother reading his newsletter.

It's too bad as he was a good info source when he first 
started out.

Guess it was to be expected in some ways.

Garnet

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Re: CSMercola's Newsletters

2009-10-20 Thread Day Sutton

I still subscribe.  He is a good source of information.  I just ignore
his ignorance of CS.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Garnet gar...@grandecom.net wrote:
 I unsubbed from Mercola's newsletters after his technical writers
 published misinformation about CS. If they can not be bothered to fact
 check I am not going to bother reading his newsletter.

 It's too bad as he was a good info source when he first started out.
 Guess it was to be expected in some ways.

 Garnet

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Re: CSGetting Started

2009-10-20 Thread john freese

http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-TDS-EZ-Meter-Tester-Water-ppm-Purity-Filter_W0QQitemZ270411724544QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef5cb7700

From: Jeff Maahs j_ma...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 7:18:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started

It looks like EC meters are much less expensive than what I had seen 
previously. One of the sites given to me earlier had a meter but it was well 
over $100. 

I hate to be a pain but would  a meter such as this one on ebay 
(http://tinyurl.com/yzzzvbn) be appropriate for these solutions?

Jeff

From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 6:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started

  You can use a voltmeter to tell when to stop, but only on a given setup 
that's always the same as referenced by an EC meter.
Current, electrode spacing and surface exposure have to be constants for 
voltage to tell you anything.
  In *making* CS, the voltage is nearly irrelevant, so it needn't be a 
constant.

  A PPM meter is an EC meter that dilutes the info it gets to suit salt 
water.

Ode

Re: CSMercola's Newsletters


Good, I will rely on people who do want to wade through
and find the pearls to pass them on! :-)))

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Day Sutton wrote:

I still subscribe.  He is a good source of information.  I just ignore
his ignorance of CS.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Garnet gar...@grandecom.net wrote:

I unsubbed from Mercola's newsletters after his technical writers
published misinformation about CS. If they can not be bothered to fact
check I am not going to bother reading his newsletter.

It's too bad as he was a good info source when he first started out.
Guess it was to be expected in some ways.

Garnet

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CSLichen Planus and CS

2009-10-20 Thread Silver Smith

*Has anyone had experience with Lichen Planus.?  I have a friend whose wife
had used some of my CS (EIS)  (15-20ppm'ish clear, made with LVDC) **to
overcome a sinus infection.  They called and asked for some more.  About the
time they received the new batch, the husband called and said his wife had
been diagnosed with Lichen Planus and he was wondering IF the CS could have
caused it since his wife had used the CS about the same time the Lichen
Plaus broke out?

Could the CS CAUSE or CURE the Lichen Planus?

Any CS-Lichen Planus info is greatly appreciated.

SS
***

Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines


Marshall,

How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative every 
day.


Bob
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines



C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is suspected, 
started feeling something come on very soon after getting home; have been 
taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head feeling keeps 
recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the 
past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working 
with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked 
alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble with 
all this c.



*From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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RE: CSGetting Started

2009-10-20 Thread Neville Munn


I use several meters, EC, PPM etc and I got a couple of ordinary ppm meters 
(for family) from over USA way for about 14 dollars each on ebay.  My 
comparison records to EC meters etc are quite adequate, just double the reading 
on a ppm meter gets me in the ballpark as a home producer, commercial solutions 
would probably need more accurate testing equipment, but for the home producer 
they're fine, at least one isn't 'feeling their way around in the dark', meters 
are a false sense of security anyway without laboratory analysis, but what the 
heck, near enough g.

 

N.
 


Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:15:20 -0700
From: jrf...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started
To: silver-list@eskimo.com





http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-TDS-EZ-Meter-Tester-Water-ppm-Purity-Filter_W0QQitemZ270411724544QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef5cb7700





From: Jeff Maahs j_ma...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 7:18:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started



It looks like EC meters are much less expensive than what I had seen 
previously. One of the sites given to me earlier had a meter but it was well 
over $100. 

I hate to be a pain but would  a meter such as this one on ebay 
(http://tinyurl.com/yzzzvbn) be appropriate for these solutions?

Jeff









From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 6:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started



  You can use a voltmeter to tell when to stop, but only on a given setup 
that's always the same as referenced by an EC meter.
Current, electrode spacing and surface exposure have to be constants for 
voltage to tell you anything.
  In *making* CS, the voltage is nearly irrelevant, so it needn't be a 
constant.

  A PPM meter is an EC meter that dilutes the info it gets to suit salt 
water.

Ode





  
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QUESTION: RE: (fwd)Chuck's eye concoction--WAS Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes

Hi All

I made Mike's recipe after receiving my Eyebright from Doc Christopher.
Is it really supposed to burn so terribly bad?!?!?! I measured it exactly...
1 oz CS, 1 tsp MSM powder, 15 drops of Eyebright Tincture and a couple
dropperfulls of 99% DMSO -- which wound up being two dropperfuls that were
about half way filled.

I don't have an eyecup so I used the dropper and got maybe one or two drops
in each eye...I have to say, it burnt like hell! What can I do to make it
not sting so badly? Dilute with more CS (rather EIS)?

And how often do I do this...once at night?

THANK YOU! 

Lisa

P.S. I did find that 5 drops in distilled water (Doc's suggestion) stung
just a little bit...but the above really stung badly (so much so that I
don't know if I can do it again...however, if it will improve my eyes I
could talk myself into it maybe once a day). Help!


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 In order to stave off multiple requests about the eyecare formula I
 use, I dug out of my archives a post from last year that includes it.
 Mike was really pushing to get it right.
 1 oz CS
 1 tsp MSM powder
 15 drops Dr. Christopher's
 Eyebright Formula Tincture
 A couple dropperfulls of 99% DMSO
 
 Note :Dr. Christopher's Eyebright Formula Tincture contains cayenne so
 it will sting a bit.
One question: I can't tolerate anywhere near that much MSM, has anyone 
tried the formula with say, 1/8 to 1/4 tsp MSM and found it still 
effective?
sol


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RE: CSGetting Started

I think I got that *same* one on ebay - so you're saying we double that
number? (Coming out at about 12-14ppm it would be twice that)?

 

L

 

  _  

From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGetting Started

 

I use several meters, EC, PPM etc and I got a couple of ordinary ppm meters
(for family) from over USA way for about 14 dollars each on ebay.  My
comparison records to EC meters etc are quite adequate, just double the
reading on a ppm meter gets me in the ballpark as a home producer,
commercial solutions would probably need more accurate testing equipment,
but for the home producer they're fine, at least one isn't 'feeling their
way around in the dark', meters are a false sense of security anyway without
laboratory analysis, but what the heck, near enough g.
 
N.
 

  _  

Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:15:20 -0700
From: jrf...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-TDS-EZ-Meter-Tester-Water-ppm-Purity-Filter_W
0QQitemZ270411724544QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef5cb770
0

 

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From: Jeff Maahs j_ma...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 7:18:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started

It looks like EC meters are much less expensive than what I had seen
previously. One of the sites given to me earlier had a meter but it was well
over $100. 

I hate to be a pain but would  a meter such as this one on ebay
(http://tinyurl.com/yzzzvbn) be appropriate for these solutions?

Jeff





 

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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 6:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started



  You can use a voltmeter to tell when to stop, but only on a given setup 
that's always the same as referenced by an EC meter.
Current, electrode spacing and surface exposure have to be constants for 
voltage to tell you anything.
  In *making* CS, the voltage is nearly irrelevant, so it needn't be a 
constant.

  A PPM meter is an EC meter that dilutes the info it gets to suit salt 
water.

Ode




 

 

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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines


One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.

This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.

Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.

She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
a preventative and libido booster.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,

How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative 
every day.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines



C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is 
suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting 
home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head 
feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've 
done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was 
able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place 
with people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble 
with all this c.



*From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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Re: CSGetting Started

2009-10-20 Thread Jeff Maahs

I just got back after buying this one - http://tinyurl.com/ygwxnvh(ZeroWater 
Z-Tester TDS Meter). They didn't have the meter by itself but for $5 more I had 
to get their purifying jug that comes with the meter. Oh well.

I just measured my latest batch and it shows 9ppm so being a TDS meter it's 
about 20ppm?

Jeff





From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 8:00:15 PM
Subject: RE: CSGetting Started

 
I think I got that *same* one on ebay – so you’re
saying we double that number? (Coming out at about 12-14ppm it would be twice
that)?
 
L
 


 
From:Neville Munn
[mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009
7:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGetting Started
 
I use several meters, EC, PPM etc and I got a couple
of ordinary ppm meters (for family) from over USA  way
for about 14 dollars each on ebay.  My comparison records to EC
meters etc are quite adequate, just double the reading on a ppm meter gets me
in the ballpark as a home producer, commercial solutions would probably need
more accurate testing equipment, but for the home producer they ' re fine, at 
least one isn ' t ' feeling their way around in the
dark ' , meters are a false sense of
security anyway without laboratory analysis, but what the heck, near enough
g.
 
N.
 


 
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:15:20
-0700
From: jrf...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-TDS-EZ-Meter-Tester-Water-ppm-Purity-Filter_W0QQitemZ270411724544QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef5cb7700
 


 
From:Jeff
Maahs j_ma...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009
7:18:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started
It looks like EC meters are much
less expensive than what I had seen previously. One of the sites given to me
earlier had a meter but it was well over $100. 

I hate to be a pain but would  a meter such as this one on ebay 
(http://tinyurl.com/yzzzvbn) be appropriate
for these solutions?

Jeff




 


 
From:Ode
Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009
6:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started



  You can use a voltmeter to tell when to stop, but only on a given setup 
that ' s always the same as referenced
by an EC meter.
Current, electrode spacing and surface exposure have to be constants for 
voltage to tell you anything.
  In *making* CS, the voltage is nearly irrelevant, so it needn ' t be a 
constant.

  A PPM meter is an EC meter that dilutes the info it gets to suit
salt 
water.

Ode



 
 


 
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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines


That is GREAT news.  We have to spread the word here in America now.

Cheers.
- Original Message - 
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines



Thanks, Dad!

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody??

Thanks Ode.

Bob
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody??

At 05:09 PM 10/19/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Ode,

 Would MMS oxidize the silver ions/particles in the blood, thus 
rendering it ineffective?

 ##  There are those that say this happens anyway..and those that say 
trace Ammonia in the blood serves a function of converting ions into 
metallic particles with a Fulminating stage.

 Note that Chlorine Dioxide doesn't react with Ammonia.
 Note also that Silver Chloride will also kill germs..just not as 
effectively as the pure metal nano-particle or ion.

 Burned or starved... Dead is dead.
 Burned AND starved, still dead.

Ode

 Although chlorine dioxide has chlorine in its name,
its chemistry is radically different from that of chlorine. When reacting 
with other substances, it is weaker and more selective. For
example, it does not react with ammonia or most organic compounds. 
Chlorine dioxide oxygenates products rather than

chlorinating them 

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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines


Garnet,

   Thanks.  That 50,000mg dose seems like alot.   Any info on safety or 
side effects at that dosage?


   Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines



One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.

This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.

Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.

She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
a preventative and libido booster.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,

How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative every 
day.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines



C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is 
suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting 
home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head 
feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've 
done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able 
to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with 
people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble 
with all this c.



*From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

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 http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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CSRe: gastric problems/ulcers

2009-10-20 Thread claire


 Not sure what type of gastric problem but aloe vera juice
 can sure
 soothe an irritated or inflamed tummy. DMSO orally has been used
 to treat stomach ulcers.

 Garnet

FWIW: My husband had stomach problems (constant gas/bloating) all his
adult life as well as a duodenal sp? ulcer. Both were cured years ago by
drinking CS alone (before we knew about the benefits of DMSO).

Claire


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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Hi Gina,

   Yes upon further investigation I see that it is actually recommended to 
take 100 - 200,000 mg. a day  for seven days depending on weight if you have 
the flu.   Maintenance dose is much lower 5 - 10,000 mg a day.
- Original Message - 
From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

I have taken that much for a few days at a time to get rid of
colds/flu/fever blisters... no negative effects.  They say there is really
no toxicity at any level.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeg-5NDyJ84
Gina

-Original Message-
From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Garnet,

   Thanks.  That 50,000mg dose seems like alot.   Any info on safety 
or

side effects at that dosage?

   Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.

This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.

Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.

She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
a preventative and libido booster.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA

Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,

How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative 
every

day.

Bob
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley
mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:

For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is
suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting
home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head
feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've
done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able
to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with
people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble
with all this c.

*From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines


I guess if you did this every day for a long period of time it
could be a problem. But we are only talking about three
days. I don't know the mechanism but obviously it is to
kick the immune system into gear cause you are sick.

I am just quoting Dr McCandless on the dosing.

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bob Banever wrote:

Garnet,

   Thanks.  That 50,000mg dose seems like alot.   Any info on safety 
or side effects at that dosage?


   Bob
- Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines



One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.

This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.

Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.

She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
a preventative and libido booster.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,

How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative 
every day.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines



C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is 
suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after 
getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; 
the head feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each 
dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu 
so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not 
in a place with people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a 
rumble with all this c.


 


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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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