Re: CS>Toenail fungus

[Del]

I did that for months (as mentioned previously):
No result.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Diane Mackey 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Toenail fungus


  Del,

  Like you, I tried many things to get rid of toenail fungus and you wouldn't 
believe what workedVicks Vapor Rub!  I put it on right out of the shower, 
tried to keep my feet exposed to the air, sprayed H202 in my shoes daily, and 
within a month, saw new clean nails growing with a nice pink bed underneath.  
It has now been three months, and the toenails are looking great and the fungus 
infected parts of the nail are almost all cut off.  

  Diane 

  A VETERAN
  Whether on active duty, retired, national guard or reserve, is someone who, 
at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United 
States of America, " for an amount of "up to and including my life."
  That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no 
longer understand it.
  Author unknown.

- Original Message - 
From: Del 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: CS>Toenail fungus


Hi:

I have had toenail fungus for most of my life on my left big toe.  
I have tried many things to get rid of it, but nothing worked.
Recently, I realized that the fungus was spreading to my other left toes.
I did more research and decided to try a combination of two parts DMSO with 
8 parts SSKI.
I have been saturating all my left toenails with this twice a day for a few 
weeks now (maybe 5 weeks).
Suddenly, it looks like some of the smaller nails are getting ready to 
break off.
Actually, I consider this a positive development, since I never got any 
reaction from anything I tried before.
The literature that recommended this treatment said the you should cut back 
the nails as they died until nothing was left anyway.
I am also taking olive leaf and oregano oil internally to attack from 
within in addition to the external treatment.
Has anyone on the list beaten toenail fungus and, if so, what was the 
process like?
How will I know if I have finally succeeded?  When a new, healthy nail 
grows in, I suppose?

Del







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FW: CS>Brooks post Teeth Whitener

[Dianne France]

 




This didn't go thru so I shortened it and trying again.
 




This is what I could find by Brooks on teeth whitening.  Dianne

 

CS>Best Teeth Whitener Found...FOR PENNIES.‏




From:


silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com on behalf of Brooks Bradley 
(brooks76...@lycos.com) 


Sent:

Sun 4/05/09 9:02 PM


To: 

silver-list@eskimo.com

Several times during recent years we have conducted examinations of commercial 
products 
designed to whiten teeth. We experienced very limited success. However, 
recently, we completed a somewhat more detailed investigation and were able to 
find a single product which, did, indeed, 
display an excellent ability to whiten teeth, quickly---and to do so without 
attendant pain or discomfort...at least such was our results. I feel somewhat 
professionally uncomfortable, even juvenile, in stating the name of the 
productCelebrity Sexy Teeth. In spite of its rather sophomoric identifier, 
this substance did, indeed, produce whitening improvements up to 8 shades 
among the volunteer populationsometimes within 10 to 12 days. Some of the 
other products had cost prices which would equal over $600.00 for a full 
treatment regime. None of these highly-hyped 
products equaled...or even approachedthe effectiveness of the Celebrity 
product. All of the products which exhibited any useful effect, contained 
varying percentages of hydrogen peroxide. 
However, and this is the reason for my submitting this email.we were able 
for a cost of mere pennies, to produce a simple mixture that was SUBSTANTIALLY 
more powerful than the Celebrity product (which, by the way, was not overly 
expensive). Our homemade solution was produced in light of the fact that we had 
determined the PRINCIPAL advantage of the Celebrity product seemed to lie in 
its superior ability to rapidly affect the deeper regions of the 
enamel.than did any of its competitors. After simple variations in strength 
ratios between common commercial, drugstore hydrogen peroxide, and DMSOwe 
arrived at an acceptable compromise between user comfort---and rapid results. 
Our most acceptable mixture (all parameters considered) turned out to be one of 
approximately 80% (by volume) of 3.5% Hydrogen Peroxide (the standard drugstore 
variety) and 20% DMSO (full strength parent solution). One easy way for the 
novice to mix is to pour about 2 tablespoons o! f H202 in a very small glass 
and about 1 teaspoon of DMSO. Caution: As DMSO is highly hygroscopic, one 
should always pour the DMSO into the parent diluent. The actual method-of-use 
of this solution is at the discretion of the experimenter. Some persons simply 
hold about a teaspoon of the solution in their mouth and brush their teeth with 
a toothbrush for about 20 seconds. However, many persons are intolerant of the 
bitterness of this percentage of DMSO and/or cannot tolerate the gag-reflex 
sometimes presenting. Therefore, the most acceptable method among a majority of 
our volunteers was to simply use a common Q-Tip swab which had been enlarged by 
adding enough additional cotton to about double the sizedip it into the 
solution and "generously paint" the front surface of the front teeth. 
Effectiveness was enhanced by keeping the top lip above the treated surface for 
about 2 minutes. It was, also, worthwhile to paint the teeth a second time 
about 60 seconds into ea! ch protocol. A second 2 minute application became 
standard procedure for the volut!
 eers during the course of this research investigation. 
Some of the volunteers utilized stronger H202 solutions (up to 6%) and some 
employed much stronger DMSO fractions (+20%). However, the one outlined above 
proved to be most effective.and was DEFINITELY SUPERIOR to the commercial 
Celebrity product-which was the only one of the commercial variety to yield 
acceptable results during our investigations. 
None of the volunteers experienced any untoward side-effects, whatsoever, while 
using the "paint on" method just outlined. A majority of our participants 
enjoyed quite rapid whitening and in shorter time-spans than with the Celebrity 
product. Incidentlyat about 1/50th the cost. 
I hope some of the list membership will find this information of value. 
  
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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Annie B Smythe]

I have a DMSO honey blend, that I bought a while back. Would honey 
affect the solution at all? And what amounts of of each, DMSO and CS, do 
you mix together? And do you have to dilute more with distilled water? 
Thanks:)



Annie




Garnet wrote:

I mix DMSO with EIS and store it until it is used up. There's
no reason not to as far as I can tell.

Garnet

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Peter Converse wrote:

Hi Folks,
 
If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at 
the time of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be 
o.k. over time, such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth 
swishing?
 
many thanks,
 
Peter
 
 



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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Peter Converse]

TW,

Good point! Anyone know if the tooth whitening formula has a shelf life or 
needs to be fresh? (or CS/DMSO, for that matter)


Peter

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Cc: "Peter Converse" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?


I have wondered the same thing about Brooks Bradley's CS/hydrogen peroxide 
tooth-whitening solution.


TW
 Peter Converse  wrote:

=
Hi Folks,

If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the 
time of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. 
over time, such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?


many thanks,

Peter






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RE: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Lisa]

FAR OUT!!!

Will be trying this VERY soon :)

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?


 Brooks' original post:

"Several times during recent years we have conducted examinations of
commercial products 
designed to whiten teeth. We experienced very limited success. However,
recently, we completed a somewhat more detailed investigation and were
able to find a single product which, did, indeed, 
display an excellent ability to whiten teeth, quickly---and to do so
without attendant pain or discomfort...at least such was our results. I
feel somewhat professionally uncomfortable, even juvenile, in stating
the name of the productCelebrity Sexy Teeth. In spite of its rather
sophomoric identifier, this substance did, indeed, produce whitening
improvements up to 8 shades 
among the volunteer populationsometimes within 10 to 12 days. Some
of the other products had cost prices which would equal over $600.00 for
a full treatment regime. None of these highly-hyped 
products equaled...or even approachedthe effectiveness of the
Celebrity product. All of the products which exhibited any useful
effect, contained varying percentages of hydrogen peroxide. 
However, and this is the reason for my submitting this email.we were
able for a cost of mere pennies, to produce a simple mixture that was
SUBSTANTIALLY more powerful than the Celebrity product (which, by the
way, was not overly expensive). Our homemade solution was produced in
light of the fact that we had determined the PRINCIPAL advantage of the
Celebrity product seemed to lie in its superior ability to rapidly
affect the deeper regions of the enamel.than did any of its
competitors. After simple variations in strength ratios between common
commercial, drugstore hydrogen peroxide, and DMSOwe arrived at an
acceptable compromise between user comfort---and rapid results. Our most
acceptable mixture (all parameters considered) turned out to be one of
approximately 80% (by volume) of 3.5% Hydrogen Peroxide (the standard
drugstore variety) and 20% DMSO (full strength parent solution). One
easy way for the novice to mix is to pour about 2 tablespoons o! f H202
in a very small glass and about 1 teaspoon of DMSO. Caution: As DMSO is
highly hygroscopic, one should always pour the DMSO into the parent
diluent. The actual method-of-use of this solution is at the discretion
of the experimenter. Some persons simply hold about a teaspoon of the
solution in their mouth and brush their teeth with a toothbrush for
about 20 seconds. However, many persons are intolerant of the bitterness
of this percentage of DMSO and/or cannot tolerate the gag-reflex
sometimes presenting. Therefore, the most acceptable method among a
majority of our volunteers was to simply use a common Q-Tip swab which
had been enlarged by adding enough additional cotton to about double the
sizedip it into the solution and "generously paint" the front
surface of the front teeth. Effectiveness was enhanced by keeping the
top lip above the treated surface for about 2 minutes. It was, also,
worthwhile to paint the teeth a second time about 60 seconds into ea! ch
protocol. A second 2 minute application became standard procedure for
the voluteers during the course of this research investigation. 
Some of the volunteers utilized stronger H202 solutions (up to 6%) and
some employed much stronger DMSO fractions (+20%). However, the one
outlined above proved to be most effective.and was DEFINITELY
SUPERIOR to the commercial Celebrity product-which was the only one
of the commercial variety to yield acceptable results during our
investigations. 
None of the volunteers experienced any untoward side-effects,
whatsoever, while using the "paint on" method just outlined. A majority
of our participants enjoyed quite rapid whitening and in shorter
time-spans than with the Celebrity product. Incidentlyat about
1/50th the cost. 
I hope some of the list membership will find this information of value. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley"

-Original Message-
From: slickpic...@cox.net [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Max Schanfarber
Subject: Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

I don't have Brooks' detailed instructions, but it involved coating the
teeth for 2 min. sessions using a mixture of 2 TBS of hydrogen peroxide
and 1 TSP of DMSO.  There were some precautions and variations but that
was the essence as I recall.  

Perhaps someone could re-post the original B. Bradley message?

 Max Schanfarber  wrote: 


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RE: CS>EIS/CS Colour...phooee

[Neville Munn]

Yes Marshall, my explanations probably aren't the best but I go by the 
'clarity' of colour if you like, if that colour (which is seldom I may add) is 
a 'clear' or 'distinct' colour and not cloudy or such then my assumption 
follows that which was stated earlier.  May be wrong there but that's how I 
judge quality.
 
But here's something to ponder...that 'tea' coloured solution I spoke of was 
brewed in a 2 litre crystal jug and I believe something happened between the 
lead in that crystal and the electrolysis process, am going to repeat one day 
and if result is the same then I know the lead in the crystal glassware is 
having some effect on end result.  I may be right off the mark there but can't 
think of another reason why this should have occurred on that occasion.

N.
 
> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:31:27 -0500
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>EIS/CS Colour...phooee
> 
> Teh quantity of particles changes the darkness of the color, the more 
> particles the darker, thus light yellow, yellow, amber and dark amber 
> would all be essentially the same particle size. Particle size changes 
> the color, with the color absorbed going to longer wavelengths as the 
> particle size increases. Be mindful that the color seen is the 
> complement of the color absorbed, so as it moves from violet to blue to 
> green in absorption, you see light yellow to gold, to orange, then red. 
> Multiple sizes will absorb in multiple wavelengths giving more of a 
> brown or black.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Neville Munn wrote:
> > The following would support my view, or I support theirs, 
> > whichever, regarding colour...
> > 
> > Quote: "True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the silver 
> > content in the form of nanometer sized
> > particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to 
> > appear dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown. 
> > It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size or 
> > contamination, that gives these products
> > such colour." End quote. This comes from an article from CSL. 
> > Probably depends on which published material one wants to believe, I 
> > believe this, and my own visual observations over all else, not to 
> > mention my tested samples of course.
> > 
> > That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit, 
> > however, our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that 
> > limit. Unless 'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of my 
> > container...it's all good, and the above quote is relevant.
> > 
> > N.
> >
> > 
> > Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live For more of what happens online 
> > 
> 
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RE: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Norton, Steve]

 Brooks' original post:

"Several times during recent years we have conducted examinations of
commercial products 
designed to whiten teeth. We experienced very limited success. However,
recently, we completed a somewhat more detailed investigation and were
able to find a single product which, did, indeed, 
display an excellent ability to whiten teeth, quickly---and to do so
without attendant pain or discomfort...at least such was our results. I
feel somewhat professionally uncomfortable, even juvenile, in stating
the name of the productCelebrity Sexy Teeth. In spite of its rather
sophomoric identifier, this substance did, indeed, produce whitening
improvements up to 8 shades 
among the volunteer populationsometimes within 10 to 12 days. Some
of the other products had cost prices which would equal over $600.00 for
a full treatment regime. None of these highly-hyped 
products equaled...or even approachedthe effectiveness of the
Celebrity product. All of the products which exhibited any useful
effect, contained varying percentages of hydrogen peroxide. 
However, and this is the reason for my submitting this email.we were
able for a cost of mere pennies, to produce a simple mixture that was
SUBSTANTIALLY more powerful than the Celebrity product (which, by the
way, was not overly expensive). Our homemade solution was produced in
light of the fact that we had determined the PRINCIPAL advantage of the
Celebrity product seemed to lie in its superior ability to rapidly
affect the deeper regions of the enamel.than did any of its
competitors. After simple variations in strength ratios between common
commercial, drugstore hydrogen peroxide, and DMSOwe arrived at an
acceptable compromise between user comfort---and rapid results. Our most
acceptable mixture (all parameters considered) turned out to be one of
approximately 80% (by volume) of 3.5% Hydrogen Peroxide (the standard
drugstore variety) and 20% DMSO (full strength parent solution). One
easy way for the novice to mix is to pour about 2 tablespoons o! f H202
in a very small glass and about 1 teaspoon of DMSO. Caution: As DMSO is
highly hygroscopic, one should always pour the DMSO into the parent
diluent. The actual method-of-use of this solution is at the discretion
of the experimenter. Some persons simply hold about a teaspoon of the
solution in their mouth and brush their teeth with a toothbrush for
about 20 seconds. However, many persons are intolerant of the bitterness
of this percentage of DMSO and/or cannot tolerate the gag-reflex
sometimes presenting. Therefore, the most acceptable method among a
majority of our volunteers was to simply use a common Q-Tip swab which
had been enlarged by adding enough additional cotton to about double the
sizedip it into the solution and "generously paint" the front
surface of the front teeth. Effectiveness was enhanced by keeping the
top lip above the treated surface for about 2 minutes. It was, also,
worthwhile to paint the teeth a second time about 60 seconds into ea! ch
protocol. A second 2 minute application became standard procedure for
the voluteers during the course of this research investigation. 
Some of the volunteers utilized stronger H202 solutions (up to 6%) and
some employed much stronger DMSO fractions (+20%). However, the one
outlined above proved to be most effective.and was DEFINITELY
SUPERIOR to the commercial Celebrity product-which was the only one
of the commercial variety to yield acceptable results during our
investigations. 
None of the volunteers experienced any untoward side-effects,
whatsoever, while using the "paint on" method just outlined. A majority
of our participants enjoyed quite rapid whitening and in shorter
time-spans than with the Celebrity product. Incidentlyat about
1/50th the cost. 
I hope some of the list membership will find this information of value. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley"

-Original Message-
From: slickpic...@cox.net [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Max Schanfarber
Subject: Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

I don't have Brooks' detailed instructions, but it involved coating the
teeth for 2 min. sessions using a mixture of 2 TBS of hydrogen peroxide
and 1 TSP of DMSO.  There were some precautions and variations but that
was the essence as I recall.  

Perhaps someone could re-post the original B. Bradley message?

 Max Schanfarber  wrote: 


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Re: CS>Getting Started

[Craig Chamberlin]

Get her one for Thanksgiving:)

Jeff Maahs wrote:

  
  
  Thank you for your help.
  
The more I learn about this the more I think the Silver puppy is the
way to go for consistent batches. I'll have to see if my wife will get
me one for Christmas. :)
  
Jeff
  
  






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Re: CS>Getting Started

[Jeff Maahs]

Thank you for your help.

The more I learn about this the more I think the Silver puppy is the way to go 
for consistent batches. I'll have to see if my wife will get me one for 
Christmas. :)

Jeff






From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 9:21:01 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Getting Started



  Conductivity [uS] is conductivity, so 442, NaCl and KCl is irrelevant.
The uS conductivity number closely corresponds to the PPM number ..after the 
conductivity stops dropping...up to around 30 uSas derived by $$ Atomic 
Absorption Spectrophotometer tests $$ done on samples averaging 12 PPM @ 87% 
ionic as the middle of a range.
Little or no Tyndall Effect, [as seen in a laser beam] fudge the number down 
some...heavy dense TE fudge it up some, to compensate for the unreadable 
particulates.

Beyond 30 uS water solubility limits create conditions where conductivity 
measuring is **pretty** much useless but can still offer some hints when taken 
before it drops.

Using constant current means a linear ion emission rate, so plotting 
conductivity rise over time at a given current, you can extend that line past 
30 uS where it starts going non linear with unreadable particle formation and 
predict PPM as uS that can't be read.
But a second uS drop back chart would make that a lot more accurate and that's 
probably not linear and would take many time stabilized batches to compile.

Some say that Faraday Equations correspond with conductivity measurements, but 
Faraday doesn't account for waste products...ie  "where" the silver is.
Obviously, not all of it stays in the water. [Yet another chart to average in? ]

BUT

In the REAL world where application is pure common sense intuition and no 
dosing recommendations make any sense at all because every person and every 
application is unique, "ballpark" is good enough.
It's nearly impossible to over do and the major difference is just water.
A particle too big to get out, never gets in and the sizes range all over the 
place in any given batch.  Your body has a great and intelligent filtration 
system if IT is working properly...and if it isn't, you'll likely be having 
some other much more serious problems than turning blue.

A Claymore mine and a sniper rifle do the same job when the scenery doesn't 
care.

Do what works and if it doesn't, do it different till it does..and if it STILL 
doesn't, do something else as well. [Like, toss in some DMSO and eat a lot of 
carrots]

When you forget that you need to, you are done. [Until something reminds you, 
if it does ]

Ode



At 06:17 PM 11/3/2009 -0800, you wrote:
> Just unpacked my brand spanking new COM-100. Many cool features that I know 
> nothing about. It's neat that the instructions actually mention CS.
> 
> Can someone give me the short lesson?
> 
> I'm thinking I want the mode at µS and 442. This is different than the ppm 
> that is talked about. Is there any conversions I have to do for say a 10 ppm 
> solution? Please help me understand.
> 
> Thank you,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ode Coyote 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 4:48:39 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Getting Started
> 
> 
> 
>   HM Digital makes a decent PPM meter [TDS3] ..but a PPM meter isn't what
> you want...they are designed to meter "salt water" and silver water isn't
> salt water.
> Looks like this one is on the low end of their line.
>   A PPM meter is useful for CS ...but not very.
> 
>   Try an HM Digital EC3
> http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-EC-3-Temp-Water-Conductivity-Tester-Meter_W0QQitemZ220494392013QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33567d6acd
> 
> or COM-100
> 
> Ode
> 
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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[slickpicker]

I don't have Brooks' detailed instructions, but it involved coating the teeth 
for 2 min. sessions using a mixture of 2 TBS of hydrogen peroxide and 1 TSP of 
DMSO.  There were some precautions and variations but that was the essence as I 
recall.  

Perhaps someone could re-post the original B. Bradley message?

 Max Schanfarber  wrote: 

=
I'm new here...What is the tooth-whitening solution?

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM,   wrote:
> I have wondered the same thing about Brooks Bradley's CS/hydrogen peroxide 
> tooth-whitening solution.
>
> TW
>  Peter Converse  wrote:
>
> =
> Hi Folks,
>
> If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the time 
> of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. over time, 
> such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?
>
> many thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Indi

[cking001]

Godfather Mike made her an offer she couldn't refuse...

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paranoid, and the other one is out to get him 


On 11/4/2009 1:40:07 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> has anyone heard from Indi?  I was just wondering as she hasn't posted
> in a while. dee
> 


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Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[cking001]

Personally, I think the fuss about sea salt is really about processed
over unprocessed.

Table salt has been heated and bleached and additions incorporated for
free flowing, etc.
Raises suspicions...

Sea salt, essentially unprocessed, with trace minerals.
Sounds better, tastes better.
Various sources (seas) give various flavors due to natural location
differences.

Price differences are meaningless to me, as a pound of salt lasts me
about 5 years.

Chuck
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On 11/4/2009 7:28:59 AM, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@windstream.net) wrote:
 
> Sea salt.  From what modern sea?
> Rock salt from a mine formed by an old sea drying up...wouldn't
> want to
> miss out on all those old volcanoes.
> 


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Re: CS>Indi

[MaryAnn Helland]

Dee -- Indi voluntarily left the list several months ago -- rather than comply 
with Mike's request to *play nice*.  MA





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 12:40:07 PM
Subject: CS>Indi

has anyone heard from Indi?  I was just wondering as she hasn't posted in a 
while. dee


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CS>Indi

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

has anyone heard from Indi?  I was just wondering as she hasn't posted  
in a while. dee



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Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[Peter Converse]

Ode,

That was priceless!! Classic Ode! You really had me in stitches!!

Thanks a million for today's best healing modality (better than CS prolly),

Peter


- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?


  Yea, then there's that person waiting for a diesel bus that complains 
that somebody down the street is smoking a cigarette.
 Deadly second hand smoke vs a million times as much first hand diesel 
fume.


Sea salt.  From what modern sea?
 Rock salt from a mine formed by an old sea drying up...wouldn't want to 
miss out on all those old volcanoes.


Must protest Depleted Uranium as I drink from my well drilled into 
radioactive Granite and live in a radioactive brick house seeping Radon 
gas into the basement.


 Saber tooth tiger or tar pit.  What's a health conscious mastodon to do?
all those toxic buttercups. and wound up flash frozen with a belly 
ache.


Ah yes, the good old safe days...you know, back when everything was 
organic and people commonly had goiters, scurvy and rickets.

...and a twice weekly workout was running from the wolves.

200 years ago, cancer death rates were low...because everything else was 
so dangerous that almost no one lived long enough to die of it.


Ode

At 09:00 AM 11/3/2009 -0700, you wrote:
I wonder if anyone who has lived or often been close to the Great Salt 
Lake uses Concentrace? SLC is our nearest big city and we get the SLC tv 
stations. The Great Salt Lake is very polluted, Hill AFB is nearby and it 
is not that uncommon for jets on maneuvers to dump excess fuel into the 
lake before returning to the base. Particularly if they are having any 
trouble at all.

I really wonder what else is in the Concentrace besides the minerals.
sol



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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Garnet]

Because DMSO is an anti-oxidant and H2O2 is a strong
oxidizer I would not store the two together as you would
probably end up with water and MSM, from H2O2
giving up one of its oxygen atoms to the DMSO and
forming DMSO2, which is MSM.

I am not a chemist so I can't verify this, however if I
were using them together at all I would mix them up
fresh for each use.

Garnet

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slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

Correction..DMSO/hydrogen peroxide solution.

 sol  wrote: 


=
I make it up ahead of time and use it till it is gone.
sol

Peter Converse wrote:

Hi Folks,
 
If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the 
time of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. 
over time, such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?



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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Garnet]

I mix DMSO with EIS and store it until it is used up. There's
no reason not to as far as I can tell.

Garnet

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Peter Converse wrote:

Hi Folks,
 
If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the 
time of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. 
over time, such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?
 
many thanks,
 
Peter
 
 



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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Max Schanfarber]

I'm new here...What is the tooth-whitening solution?

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM,   wrote:
> I have wondered the same thing about Brooks Bradley's CS/hydrogen peroxide 
> tooth-whitening solution.
>
> TW
>  Peter Converse  wrote:
>
> =
> Hi Folks,
>
> If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the time 
> of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. over time, 
> such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?
>
> many thanks,
>
> Peter
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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[slickpicker]

Correction..DMSO/hydrogen peroxide solution.

 sol  wrote: 

=
I make it up ahead of time and use it till it is gone.
sol

Peter Converse wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>  
> If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the 
> time of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. 
> over time, such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?


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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[slickpicker]

I have wondered the same thing about Brooks Bradley's CS/hydrogen peroxide 
tooth-whitening solution.

TW
 Peter Converse  wrote: 

=
Hi Folks,

If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the time 
of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. over time, 
such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?

many thanks,

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Re: CS>Toenail fungus

[Diane Mackey]

Del,

Like you, I tried many things to get rid of toenail fungus and you wouldn't 
believe what workedVicks Vapor Rub!  I put it on right out of the shower, 
tried to keep my feet exposed to the air, sprayed H202 in my shoes daily, and 
within a month, saw new clean nails growing with a nice pink bed underneath.  
It has now been three months, and the toenails are looking great and the fungus 
infected parts of the nail are almost all cut off.  

Diane 

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That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer 
understand it.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Del 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:08 PM
  Subject: CS>Toenail fungus


  Hi:

  I have had toenail fungus for most of my life on my left big toe.  
  I have tried many things to get rid of it, but nothing worked.
  Recently, I realized that the fungus was spreading to my other left toes.
  I did more research and decided to try a combination of two parts DMSO with 8 
parts SSKI.
  I have been saturating all my left toenails with this twice a day for a few 
weeks now (maybe 5 weeks).
  Suddenly, it looks like some of the smaller nails are getting ready to break 
off.
  Actually, I consider this a positive development, since I never got any 
reaction from anything I tried before.
  The literature that recommended this treatment said the you should cut back 
the nails as they died until nothing was left anyway.
  I am also taking olive leaf and oregano oil internally to attack from within 
in addition to the external treatment.
  Has anyone on the list beaten toenail fungus and, if so, what was the process 
like?
  How will I know if I have finally succeeded?  When a new, healthy nail grows 
in, I suppose?

  Del



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Re: CS>coconut charcoal filters - Kirsteen?

[sol]

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Newsflash: they sent the wrong lead with the distiller, so I will have 
to wait until they send me the correct one for the UK!  Am I surprised?  
 dee


Oh good GRIEF!
sol


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Re: CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[sol]

I make it up ahead of time and use it till it is gone.
sol

Peter Converse wrote:

Hi Folks,
 
If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the 
time of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. 
over time, such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?



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Re: CS>coconut charcoal filters - Kirsteen?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Kirsteen, they sent me the wrong power cord but I got two  
really nice emails from them and hopefully it will arrive tomorrow and  
then I'll be 'away with the mixer' so to speak!  dee


On 4 Nov 2009, at 17:08, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
 wrote:
Hi all, can anyone tell me if it is ok to leave out the filters on  
the distiller?


Hi Dee

Yes I just leave them out. I filter the water first in a filter jug  
then fill up the distiller then just put the cap on without the  
filter in it.


Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>coconut charcoal filters - Kirsteen?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Newsflash: they sent the wrong lead with the distiller, so I will have  
to wait until they send me the correct one for the UK!  Am I  
surprised?   dee


On 4 Nov 2009, at 16:23, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Hi all, can anyone tell me if it is ok to leave out the filters on  
the distiller?  I have just received my OdeV distiller and it says  
to put in the filters in the container, but I'm sure someone  
(Kirsteen?) said they leave them out.  If this is so, do I just put  
the cap with the hole in it on the container and take out the bit  
which holds the filter and then screw the cap on?  I would like to  
use the filters though, when I make drinking water.  dee



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Re: CS>Color of CS

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I gave up using H202 to add to CS Dan, as all I got was murky sludge!   
I used 3% stuff.  dee


On 4 Nov 2009, at 15:52, Dan Nave wrote:


In the past it has been difficult for me to make completely colorless
CS of a reasonable concentration.  While the CS was clear, it usually
acquired a slight yellow tint.  I initially blamed this on the
distilled water, but I think the actual culprit was the H2O2 that I
was using to clean the electrodes and cell.  I intially thought that I
had H2O2 without stabilizers but realized that it did have stabilizers
in it (very small print).  Also, when I added this H2O2 to clear the
CS after it had been made, it often turned cloudy and took at least
twice as much as everyone else was talking about using to clear it.
After getting a bottle of 35% food grade H2O2 without stabilizers, the
CS clears readily with the added H2O2.  I haven't made a batch of CS
since I got the new H2O2 but I suspect it will be easier to get
colorless CS now, right from the start...

Dan




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CS>Premixed CS/DMSO?

[Peter Converse]

Hi Folks,

If using a mixture of CS and DMSO does one need to mix it freshly at the time 
of usage or could one make a larger batch and expect it to be o.k. over time, 
such as making up a pint for repeated daily mouth swishing?

many thanks,

Peter

Re: CS>coconut charcoal filters - Kirsteen?

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> Hi all, can anyone tell me if it is ok to leave out the filters on the
> distiller?
>

Hi Dee

Yes I just leave them out. I filter the water first in a filter jug then
fill up the distiller then just put the cap on without the filter in it.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[sol]

Ode Coyote wrote:

Must protest Depleted Uranium as I drink from my well drilled into 
radioactive Granite and live in a radioactive brick house seeping Radon 
gas into the basement.


Much like I feel about fluoride. I do drink distilled water, but can't 
keep up enough production to always cook with it. There is natural 
fluoride in the water here, thus in the soil, thus in every zucchini or 
cucumber or lettuce we grow...Lots of radon around here too.

sol


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Re: CS>EIS/CS Colour...phooee

[Marshall Dudley]

Teh quantity of particles changes the darkness of the color, the more 
particles the darker, thus light yellow, yellow, amber and dark amber 
would all be essentially the same particle size.  Particle size changes 
the color, with the color absorbed going to longer wavelengths as the 
particle size increases.  Be mindful that the color seen is the 
complement of the color absorbed, so as it moves from violet to blue to 
green in absorption, you see light yellow to gold, to orange, then red.  
Multiple sizes will absorb in multiple wavelengths giving more of a 
brown or black.


Marshall

Neville Munn wrote:
The following would support my view, or I support theirs, 
whichever, regarding colour...
 
Quote: "True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the silver 
content in the form of nanometer sized
particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to 
appear dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown. 
It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size or 
contamination, that gives these products
such colour." End quote.  This comes from an article from CSL.  
Probably depends on which published material one wants to believe, I 
believe this, and my own visual observations over all else, not to 
mention my tested samples of course.
 
That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit, 
however, our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that 
limit.  Unless 'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of my 
container...it's all good, and the above quote is relevant.
 
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CS>coconut charcoal filters - Kirsteen?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Hi all, can anyone tell me if it is ok to leave out the filters on the  
distiller?  I have just received my OdeV distiller and it says to put  
in the filters in the container, but I'm sure someone (Kirsteen?) said  
they leave them out.  If this is so, do I just put the cap with the  
hole in it on the container and take out the bit which holds the  
filter and then screw the cap on?  I would like to use the filters  
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Re: CS>Color of CS

[Dan Nave]

In the past it has been difficult for me to make completely colorless
CS of a reasonable concentration.  While the CS was clear, it usually
acquired a slight yellow tint.  I initially blamed this on the
distilled water, but I think the actual culprit was the H2O2 that I
was using to clean the electrodes and cell.  I intially thought that I
had H2O2 without stabilizers but realized that it did have stabilizers
in it (very small print).  Also, when I added this H2O2 to clear the
CS after it had been made, it often turned cloudy and took at least
twice as much as everyone else was talking about using to clear it.
After getting a bottle of 35% food grade H2O2 without stabilizers, the
CS clears readily with the added H2O2.  I haven't made a batch of CS
since I got the new H2O2 but I suspect it will be easier to get
colorless CS now, right from the start...

Dan

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>  Guy at the auto parts store;  "What kind of vehicle do you have"?
>
> Answer:  A red one.
> ...sorry, we don't sell parts for red freight trains. If you had a blue
> airplane, now.
>
>
> How much current, what sort of voltage, how much electrode , how far apart,
> are they held parallel, for how long, how do you know how strong, in how
> much good or bad a distilled water..."stirred or shaken" ?
>
> If you don't know the answers to those questions, then the answer to the
> question "how" is I don't really know,  but at least I use distilled
> water.
>
> Time does count, for it takes time for some reactions to take place and be
> complete.
>  The questions are, what reactions and how can they be eliminated?
>
>  Have you tried a different distilled water? [Never mind that no two jugs
> are the same except by accident ]
> Might try using a different storage container. [in a clear container, you
> can watch what happens ]
>
> **Usually**  CS goes yellow if you used too much current for too long...but
> that's not the only possible reason.
> There are also a few of different sorts of yellow. ie reflective or
> refractive from particle size and pigmented from oxides and other
> contamination reaction results...which can be, but aren't always related.
>
> Do something different.   If you get different results, that's something to
> look at.
>  But it helps to know what you did, so doing it different can also be a
> known.
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 05:39 AM 11/3/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>> I make it in a clear glass container with distilled water.  When done, it
>> is always mostly clear.  I am wondering since I keep using the same colored
>> glass bottles if it is somehow affecting the color in time?  Thanks Ode.
>>  Orrilia
>>
>>
>> From: Ode Coyote 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:20:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS
>>
>>
>>
>>  How do you make it?
>>
>> Ode
>>
>>
>> At 03:09 PM 11/2/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light yellow
>> > color. When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a dark gold.  Is
>> > this normal?  I store my CS in green or brown colored bottles.  Thanks for
>> > any help given.  Orrilia
>> >
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Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hey, Sol, where do you live?? I`m in Provo!
Marshalee

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, sol  wrote:

> I wonder if anyone who has lived or often been close to the Great Salt Lake
> uses Concentrace? SLC is our nearest big city and we get the SLC tv
> stations. The Great Salt Lake is very polluted, Hill AFB is nearby and it is
> not that uncommon for jets on maneuvers to dump excess fuel into the lake
> before returning to the base. Particularly if they are having any trouble at
> all.
> I really wonder what else is in the Concentrace besides the minerals.
> sol
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[Max Schanfarber]

Well said Ode...I love it.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
>
>  Yea, then there's that person waiting for a diesel bus that complains that
> somebody down the street is smoking a cigarette.
>  Deadly second hand smoke vs a million times as much first hand diesel fume.
>
> Sea salt.  From what modern sea?
>  Rock salt from a mine formed by an old sea drying up...wouldn't want to
> miss out on all those old volcanoes.
>
> Must protest Depleted Uranium as I drink from my well drilled into
> radioactive Granite and live in a radioactive brick house seeping Radon gas
> into the basement.
>
>  Saber tooth tiger or tar pit.  What's a health conscious mastodon to do?
> all those toxic buttercups. and wound up flash frozen with a belly
> ache.
>
> Ah yes, the good old safe days...you know, back when everything was organic
> and people commonly had goiters, scurvy and rickets.
> ...and a twice weekly workout was running from the wolves.
>
> 200 years ago, cancer death rates were low...because everything else was so
> dangerous that almost no one lived long enough to die of it.
>
> Ode
>
> At 09:00 AM 11/3/2009 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if anyone who has lived or often been close to the Great Salt
>> Lake uses Concentrace? SLC is our nearest big city and we get the SLC tv
>> stations. The Great Salt Lake is very polluted, Hill AFB is nearby and it is
>> not that uncommon for jets on maneuvers to dump excess fuel into the lake
>> before returning to the base. Particularly if they are having any trouble at
>> all.
>> I really wonder what else is in the Concentrace besides the minerals.
>> sol
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Re: CS>Getting Started

[Ode Coyote]

  Conductivity [uS] is conductivity, so 442, NaCl and KCl is irrelevant.
 The uS conductivity number closely corresponds to the PPM number ..after 
the conductivity stops dropping...up to around 30 uSas derived by $$ 
Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometer tests $$ done on samples averaging 12 
PPM @ 87% ionic as the middle of a range.
 Little or no Tyndall Effect, [as seen in a laser beam] fudge the number 
down some...heavy dense TE fudge it up some, to compensate for the 
unreadable particulates.


 Beyond 30 uS water solubility limits create conditions where conductivity 
measuring is **pretty** much useless but can still offer some hints when 
taken before it drops.


 Using constant current means a linear ion emission rate, so plotting 
conductivity rise over time at a given current, you can extend that line 
past 30 uS where it starts going non linear with unreadable particle 
formation and predict PPM as uS that can't be read.
 But a second uS drop back chart would make that a lot more accurate and 
that's probably not linear and would take many time stabilized batches to 
compile.


Some say that Faraday Equations correspond with conductivity measurements, 
but Faraday doesn't account for waste products...ie  "where" the silver is.
 Obviously, not all of it stays in the water. [Yet another chart to 
average in? ]


 BUT

In the REAL world where application is pure common sense intuition and no 
dosing recommendations make any sense at all because every person and every 
application is unique, "ballpark" is good enough.

 It's nearly impossible to over do and the major difference is just water.
 A particle too big to get out, never gets in and the sizes range all over 
the place in any given batch.  Your body has a great and intelligent 
filtration system if IT is working properly...and if it isn't, you'll 
likely be having some other much more serious problems than turning blue.


A Claymore mine and a sniper rifle do the same job when the scenery doesn't 
care.


 Do what works and if it doesn't, do it different till it does..and if it 
STILL doesn't, do something else as well. [Like, toss in some DMSO and eat 
a lot of carrots]


 When you forget that you need to, you are done. [Until something reminds 
you, if it does ]


Ode



At 06:17 PM 11/3/2009 -0800, you wrote:
Just unpacked my brand spanking new COM-100. Many cool features that I 
know nothing about. It's neat that the instructions actually mention CS.


Can someone give me the short lesson?

I'm thinking I want the mode at µS and 442. This is different than the ppm 
that is talked about. Is there any conversions I have to do for say a 10 
ppm solution? Please help me understand.


Thank you,
Jeff



From: Ode Coyote 
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Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 4:48:39 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Getting Started



  HM Digital makes a decent PPM meter [TDS3] ..but a PPM meter isn't what
you want...they are designed to meter "salt water" and silver water isn't
salt water.
Looks like this one is on the low end of their line.
  A PPM meter is useful for CS ...but not very.

  Try an HM Digital EC3
http://cgi.ebay.com/HM-Digital-EC-3-Temp-Water-Conductivity-Tester-Meter_W0QQitemZ220494392013QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33567d6acd

or COM-100

Ode





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Re: CS>Would ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?

[Ode Coyote]

  Yea, then there's that person waiting for a diesel bus that complains 
that somebody down the street is smoking a cigarette.

 Deadly second hand smoke vs a million times as much first hand diesel fume.

Sea salt.  From what modern sea?
 Rock salt from a mine formed by an old sea drying up...wouldn't want to 
miss out on all those old volcanoes.


Must protest Depleted Uranium as I drink from my well drilled into 
radioactive Granite and live in a radioactive brick house seeping Radon gas 
into the basement.


 Saber tooth tiger or tar pit.  What's a health conscious mastodon to do?
all those toxic buttercups. and wound up flash frozen with a belly 
ache.


Ah yes, the good old safe days...you know, back when everything was organic 
and people commonly had goiters, scurvy and rickets.

...and a twice weekly workout was running from the wolves.

200 years ago, cancer death rates were low...because everything else was so 
dangerous that almost no one lived long enough to die of it.


Ode

At 09:00 AM 11/3/2009 -0700, you wrote:
I wonder if anyone who has lived or often been close to the Great Salt 
Lake uses Concentrace? SLC is our nearest big city and we get the SLC tv 
stations. The Great Salt Lake is very polluted, Hill AFB is nearby and it 
is not that uncommon for jets on maneuvers to dump excess fuel into the 
lake before returning to the base. Particularly if they are having any 
trouble at all.

I really wonder what else is in the Concentrace besides the minerals.
sol



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Re: CS>Color of CS

[Ode Coyote]

  Guy at the auto parts store;  "What kind of vehicle do you have"?

Answer:  A red one.
...sorry, we don't sell parts for red freight trains. If you had a blue 
airplane, now.



How much current, what sort of voltage, how much electrode , how far apart, 
are they held parallel, for how long, how do you know how strong, in how 
much good or bad a distilled water..."stirred or shaken" ?


If you don't know the answers to those questions, then the answer to the 
question "how" is I don't really know,  but at least I use distilled water.


Time does count, for it takes time for some reactions to take place and be 
complete.

 The questions are, what reactions and how can they be eliminated?

 Have you tried a different distilled water? [Never mind that no two jugs 
are the same except by accident ]
Might try using a different storage container. [in a clear container, you 
can watch what happens ]


**Usually**  CS goes yellow if you used too much current for too long...but 
that's not the only possible reason.
There are also a few of different sorts of yellow. ie reflective or 
refractive from particle size and pigmented from oxides and other 
contamination reaction results...which can be, but aren't always related.


Do something different.   If you get different results, that's something to 
look at.

 But it helps to know what you did, so doing it different can also be a known.

Ode


At 05:39 AM 11/3/2009 -0800, you wrote:
I make it in a clear glass container with distilled water.  When done, it 
is always mostly clear.  I am wondering since I keep using the same 
colored glass bottles if it is somehow affecting the color in 
time?  Thanks Ode.Orrilia



From: Ode Coyote 
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Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:20:11 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Color of CS



  How do you make it?

Ode


At 03:09 PM 11/2/2009 -0800, you wrote:


> Just a question.  When I make my CS, it is clear or a very light yellow 
color. When I open the bottle maybe 2 days later, it is a dark gold.  Is 
this normal?  I store my CS in green or brown colored bottles.  Thanks 
for any help given.  Orrilia

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Re: CS>EIS/CS Colour...phooee

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This would apply if you were certain of what *caused* the yellowing.   
If it were just silver then that would be ok, but what if it is the  
silver agglomerating with something else?  To me if it is mostly  
clear, and then yellow sometimes, it is not certain what has caused  
that colour.  dee


On 3 Nov 2009, at 21:59, Neville Munn wrote:

The following would support my view, or I support theirs, whichever,  
regarding colour...


Quote: "True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the  
silver content in the form of nanometer sized
particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to  
appear dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown.
It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size  
or contamination, that gives these products
such colour." End quote.  This comes from an article from CSL.   
Probably depends on which published material one wants to believe, I  
believe this, and my own visual observations over all else, not to  
mention my tested samples of course.


That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit,  
however, our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that  
limit.  Unless 'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of  
my container...it's all good, and the above quote is relevant.


N.

Re: CS>Toenail fungus

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Arthur.  So you're saying that this is personal experience, not a friend of 
a friend?  And that it actually worked?  Great!!  How long did it take?  Do you 
now have normal nails?  

Now -- is Atomidine liquid?  And is it available at health food stores?  
Thanks.  MA





From: arthur rambo 
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Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:06:49 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Toenail fungus


I used Atomidine (iodine) with DMSO 50/50, on a bandaid each night. Worked 
beautifully. 





From: "Norton, Steve" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:50:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Toenail fungus


Didn't someone on the list cure toenail fungus with EIS and DMSO by soaking in 
a footbath? Did he lose his toenails too?
 - Steve N

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From: julie martin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tue Nov 03 18:44:33 2009
Subject:  CS>Toenail fungus



 i have heard David Wolfe say that the
 fungus does not live only in the nail.  he reports that
 it enters the second joint below the nail.  he has
 suggested that one would need to paint the toe (or finger)
 from the tip of the nail all the way down, up to and
 including the second joint below the affected nail with #1.
 tincture of Pau d' Arco followed immediately by #2.
 DMSO.  one would then wait until the area is completely
 dry before donning socks or shoes.  this experiment
 should continue until the new nail has grown in as any
 remaining fungus can re- root and re- enter the nail. 

 i have heard one person report that after trying many
 things for years this method did in fact work.  i began
 the protocol, but did not complete it and noticed that the
 old nail does at least sometimes pull away from the
 toe.  this was not painful and i found a small new nail
 growing in it's place. 
 julie m



 


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Re: CS>Color of CS

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Point taken MaryAnn.  dee

On 3 Nov 2009, at 20:42, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Hi Dee.  Just wanted to clarify -- it wasn't that "EIS should be  
clear" that I was commenting on -- it was that "EIS should be stored  
in clear glass".  I want you to know that I wasn't intending to be  
critical of what you said, just wanted to clarify that there's  
nothing wrong with storing it in colored glass bottles, and that we  
need to be careful in our choice of words regarding making and  
storing EIS.  People new to the process take things very literally.


You're right -- it would be easy to miss discoloration if you only  
poured a spoon-ful at a time -- that's something that I never do.  I  
seem always to be using at least a cupful.  :-)

MA