CS>Join me in saving the net

[Meg]

Hi,

Our Government wants to censor the internet with a system that goes further 
than any other democracy in the world.

We all want a system that protects our children and our community - mandatory 
censorship of the web will not achieve that aim.  It has even been slammed by 
child welfare groups, who say the filter is "fundamentally flawed" and simply 
will not work. 

I have just sent Senator Conroy and Mr Smith a message to let them know that I 
do not want a censorship scheme that will waste money, be easily circumvented, 
miss the vast majority of inappropriate content and encroach on our cherished 
freedoms.

Can you join me in sending a message to our key politicians in defence of our 
freedoms?

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/GreatFirewallOfAustralia 

Thanks!


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Re: CS>OT Mental Clarity

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Well that explains the lack of concentration and loss of memory straight away!  
I've forgotten who the original poster was, but if I were him, I'd leave off 
the Crestor immediately!  I had the same thing (years ago before the Internet) 
and thought I had something seriously wrong with me.  I went to the doctor and 
asked if the statin could produce such a result - thinking she would ridicule 
the idea.  She did the complete opposite in  fact and advised me to leave the 
drug off.  You see, they *know* that these drugs cause such problems but a lot 
of people just put it down to old age and don't bother.  I know a few people 
who have left off the drug for this reason, and also muscle weakness and nerve 
pain, which are other side effects.  My friend has all of these but still takes 
it - plus blood pressure meds when she didn't need either!  dee

On 16 Dec 2009, at 00:37, Steve wrote:

> Crestor is indeed one of the statin drugs.
> 
> Sounds like something to brush your teeth with though, but I wouldn't 
> recommend it.
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> 

Re: CS>Fw: Does CS work?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks for this Sandy (good job you didn't leave eh?) another one to keep.  dee

On 16 Dec 2009, at 02:34, Sandy wrote:

> Hello Sunny,
> 
> You may find this helpful.
> 
> Research on colloidal silver.
> 
> http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm
> 
> Sandy
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:
> 

Re: CS>Fw: Does CS work?

[Dan Nave]

Here's some original research by Ol' Bob, a colloidal silver
researcher and previous member of this list, now deceased.  From his
book.

Dan


The History of Colloidal Silver

Silver has been used throughout history by the aristocracy for plates
and drinking vessels, and its use has been a source of protection from
the ravages that affect the mass of humanity. Our pioneers would add a
silver dollar to the milk buckets to prolong the useful life. If you
so choose you can add a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon
of milk and it will not spoil for weeks.

Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over ninety US letters
patents of silver compounds for medicinal purposes. It was during 1917
that Dr. Henry Crooke conducted 2,000 tests proving that silver
solutions would kill almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver
solutions could not be patented, the Food and Drug Administration was
moved by the pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the
American Medical Association.

For those who want an in-depth look at the history of the use of
silver for human well being I suggest that you visit the Google.com
web site and enter "colloidal silver." Another worthwhile web site is
at www.silverinstitute.org in Washington D. C. You will enjoy the
www.silverlon.com web site as their product has been approved by the
FDA and the AMA.

If the web site is selling a product be careful what you believe about
their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best.

Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest on the role
that silver played in the building of the Burma road during world War
II. Shortly after construction began everything stopped due to
dysentery and diarrhea from the water supply. An English doctor
gathered up a number of D batteries and silver coins, which he took to
India.

The coins were converted into wires about a meter long and one was
soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver wires were placed in
the Lister bags water supply with the batteries on the outside. In
just a few days the medical problem disappeared and the road was
completed.

At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our water supply
was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff water, and I was
curious about the silver process. At my request the director of the
research laboratory had his personnel prepare twelve petri dishes for
bacterial culture growth.

A water sample was divided into three parts. One part was used to make
a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the untreated water, a
second set was made for water that was stirred with a silver wire for
two minutes, and the third set was made using water that had been
stirred with two silver wires that were soldered to the ends of a D
battery.

What follows are my personal experiences while investigating the
making of a silver product to be used for human consumption.

The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight hours so that any
bacteria present would grow. At the end of the incubation period the
samples were viewed with results as listed on the table.

Untreated Water:
1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth.
2/10 to 3/100 had successfully reduced growth.
4/1000 had five colonies of bacteria.

Stirred Water:
1/1 had a few colonies.
1/10 had less than sample 1.
1/100 and 1/1000 were free of bacterial growth.

Electrolyzed Water:
All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free.

___
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny
 wrote:
>
>
>
> My husband, who is into trying out all kinds of alternatives, just asked
> me... does this stuff work ?  I said it's the same with MMS, I did get rid
> of the infection and he did notice that when he was taking it and wearing
> snake boots all day his feet stopped smelling and beyond that we only
> have other people's personal testimonials.
> smiles
> sunny


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Re: CS>Does CS work?

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

Thanks folks...that's purrfect... ;) sunny
 
A peek into our world... 

Who is Pierre Soleil? 
Planet Earthship - Surviving the Times- Information on how to live more simply, 
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From: Alchemysa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:00:49 PM
Subject: CS>Does CS work?

"My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope and show 
how it dispels pathogens'."

'They' have already done that hundreds of times...

http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm

Theres a mountain of genuine scientific evidence to prove that silver kills 
germs in lab tests.  No credible researcher disputes that.  Even 'Quackwatch', 
the ultimate anti-cs site, does not dispute that it works in-vitro (test 
tubes). Unfortunately no clinical human trials have been conducted to prove 
that it works in real life. There are a number of reasons for this including 
the fact that human trials cost millions of dollars.

You'll have to settle for testimonies..,
http://www.csfacts.com/pages/for.html

David






> 
> 
> From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
> Date: 16 December 2009 12:50:10 PM
> To: Silver List 
> Subject: CS>Fw: Does CS work?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My husband, who is into trying out all kinds of alternatives, just asked 
> me... does this stuff work ?  I said it's the same with MMS, I did get rid of 
> the infection and he did notice that when he was taking it and wearing snake 
> boots all day his feet stopped smelling and beyond that we only have other 
> people's personal testimonials.
> 
> I've taken CS only by spraying it in my mouth.. for my teeth.  I can't say 
> I've used it to deal with some infection or other... I'm into taking 
> something and thinking about prevention.
> 
> Jim Humble says of MMS that he's used it loads of times and tried it out a 
> lot on himself... but he doesn't have the money to research it so there's no 
> 'scientific' evidence as such.
> 
> My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope and show 
> how it dispels pathogens'.
> 
> Is there any research on CS or somewhere anyone can point me to where 
> scientific type experiments of any sort have been performed and shown some 
> kind of result against a control group?
> 
> I personally think that human testimonial is great.. but often we take a 
> number of things together when we're pursuing the alternative route... so it 
> could be difficult to know what's working.
> 
> Asking these questions is merely anticipating the kind of questions people 
> might well ask when we talk to them of CS.
> 
> I had this sense that there are some highly knowledgeable people on this list 
> including some who have done their own tests or know about those that have 
> been done.. As it's not a FDA approved item, I don't expect that kind of 
> research.. we don't have that luxury with these kind of remedies...and anyway 
> the FDA ratifies things that poison us!
> 
> It's like my neighbors father who was in and out of hospital visits for 
> diarrhoea and then finally got fed up and went home, remembered all his stuff 
> about home remedies, fell out of the allopathic trance, went up in his forest 
> and cut some red oak bark.. took it in water for four days and got rid of 
> something modernmedicine couldn't.  Hardly a scientific test, but I'd surely 
> try it if I had something similar..
> 
> smiles
> sunny
> 
> A peek into our world..
> World Human Orientation - The blog In depth articles - WHO are we? WHY is 
> this happening? Where are we going? WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and 
> emerge?
> 
> 
> 
> 


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CS>FDA dupes Interpol to achieve illegal kidnapping and deportation of herbal formulator Greg Caton

[Marshall Dudley]

http://www.naturalnews.com/z027750_Greg_Caton_FDA.html

Marshall


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CS>MaxGXL

[Pat]

My ophthalmologist said it wouldn't hurt to try the n-acetylcarnosine (or NAC) 
as cataract improvement, but he wasn't overly enthusiastic.  He said we just 
don't know if it works or not, just like so many other things that will never 
be tested. 

 He said glutathione is so important for the eyes and recommended MaxGXL which 
provides the proper nutrients needed to promote the body's own ability to 
manufacture and absorb glutathione. http://www.maxgxl.com/products.php   Has 
anyone tried this?  I will, but it's awfully expensive at $85 for 30 days.  
I've tried whey protein to increase glutathione, but I hate the taste except in 
a shake with milk or almond milk and banana, and get tired of that, so I tend 
not to use it often as I should.

Pat



  


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CS>A mum asking for help for rashes after son received H1N1 vaccine

[Hanneke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLMa-1PllIo&feature=player_embedded

Please if you have suggestions as to what she could do, please go to 
the youtube page and comment with possible solution(s).



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Re: CS>MaxGXL

[kmartjoppa]

I use milk thistle from Nature sunshine...I just got 2 week sample of  
maxgxl ...I don't know if I felt all the warm fuzzies as advertisede-mail 
me 
 in a week see if I get tired in future...change your diet to  
watermellon,Marty
 
 
In a message dated 12/16/2009 7:32:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
pattycake29...@yahoo.com writes:

My  ophthalmologist said it wouldn't hurt to try the n-acetylcarnosine (or 
NAC) as  cataract improvement, but he wasn't overly enthusiastic.  He said 
we just  don't know if it works or not, just like so many other things that 
will never  be tested. 

He said glutathione is so important for the eyes and  recommended MaxGXL 
which provides the proper nutrients needed to promote the  body's own ability 
to manufacture and absorb glutathione.  http://www.maxgxl.com/products.php   
Has anyone tried this?  I  will, but it's awfully expensive at $85 for 30 
days.  I've tried whey  protein to increase glutathione, but I hate the taste 
except in a shake with  milk or almond milk and banana, and get tired of 
that, so I tend not to use it  often as I should.

Pat






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CS>Re: Vitamin C and more Vitamin C -- the eyes have it !!

[Douglas Haack]

Silver Listers,
My wife three years ago had some deterioration behind the retina -- 
our ophthalmologist has the latest digital equipment -- so the next year we 
were able to compare the latest pic against the previous pic of the eye area.
I was able to get my dear wife to increase here intake of Vitamin C 5 fold -- 
the deterioration has healed -- the eye doctor promotes vitamins anyway -- in 
my experience the ophthalmologist type people are the only group aware of the 
value of vitamins.
This could be because they can see a before and after picture readily (visually 
or with the help of digital) -- where all the other medicos can't see an 
apparent healing! Even
 when symptoms have improved or gone away.
We are all captives of our very personal experiences -- of our belief systems !
My wife has worked in the medical area as a technician for over 40 years -- for 
the last 20 as a medical librarian -- with totally constrained beliefs in the 
medical system.
EIS silver has now become part of her belief system -- was able to cure her 
yearly bout/s of bronchitis with NEBULISED CS. It took some nagging despite the 
early and consistent successes !!
She now takes her Vitamin C without nagging !
In SILvation -- Douglas H -- a 13 year lurking list member
It has been my
 personal experience that aging or geriatric relatives are ALL nutrionally 
depleted of all major vitamins and minerals and especially vitamin C. They 
generally eat over cooked meals that lack adequate vitamins and minerals etc 
etc.
This brings on a total collapse eventually -- and the docs just say -- he or 
she is just old and it's their time!!!
As people age they take less notice of good advice (they know better) and will 
counter your attempts to advise vitamins and better nutrition etc.
One has to be very clever and patient to influence an elderly person needing 
better food etc.


--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Pat  wrote:

From: Pat 
Subject: CS>MaxGXL
To: "silver list" 
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 5:32 PM

My ophthalmologist said it wouldn't hurt to try the n-acetylcarnosine (or NAC) 
as cataract improvement, but he wasn't overly enthusiastic.  He said we just 
don't know if it works or not, just like so many other things that will never 
be tested. 

 He said glutathione is so important for the eyes and recommended MaxGXL which 
provides the proper nutrients needed to promote the body's own ability to 
manufacture and absorb glutathione. http://www.maxgxl.com/products.php   Has 
anyone tried this?  I will, but it's awfully expensive at $85 for 30 days.  
I've tried whey protein to increase glutathione, but I hate the taste except in 
a shake with
 milk or almond milk and banana, and get tired of that, so I tend not to use it 
often as I should.

Pat



      


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Re: CS>MaxGXL

[Annie B Smythe]

Hey Pat:)

You can't directly put glutathione into the body 
because it's poorly absorbed by the digestive 
tract. I've been doing some reading on glutathione 
myself  for a a few weeks and found this article:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione

All these folks are doing is putting the three 
precursors together in a capsule and charging a 
ton of money for it. You can find the precursors 
cheaper by themselves and make your own capsules. 
For 85.00 I can find all of tat stuff separately 
and in a lot bigger quantities. The three 
precursors, the three ingredients listed under vit 
C, can be found at 1Fast400 and some of them are 
on Amazon, by the same company. That's the most 
reasonable I've found them. You can get ALA cheap 
on Swanson's site also. And ascorbic acid(vitmin 
C) can be had on 1FAST400, or eBay by the lb. 
Our4Corners store on eBay has 1lb of Milk Thistle 
cheap, and Mountain Rose Herbs has it cheap by the 
lb, but you can buy it in 4 oz, and 8 oz sizes, or 
could last time I checked.  It may cost you a 
little more than 85.00 come to think of it, right 
up front, but it will last a lng time, a lot 
longer than 30 days. And it WILL work out to a 
heck of a lot less than 85.00 a month. That's just 
outrageous. But really for glutathione levels all 
you really need is the three precursors. Give your 
body those and it'll go the rest. All the other 
stuff in that supplement is nice, but not 
necessary for increasing glutathione levels. I 
believe you can get glutathione injections, but I 
don't know who or where.
But it's up to you if you want to buy it or not. 
According to the stuff I've read, yeah it should 
work, but you can do it much cheaper than that.



Annie


Pat wrote:
My ophthalmologist said it wouldn't hurt to try the n-acetylcarnosine (or NAC) as cataract improvement, but he wasn't overly enthusiastic.  He said we just don't know if it works or not, just like so many other things that will never be tested. 


 He said glutathione is so important for the eyes and recommended MaxGXL which 
provides the proper nutrients needed to promote the body's own ability to 
manufacture and absorb glutathione. http://www.maxgxl.com/products.php   Has 
anyone tried this?  I will, but it's awfully expensive at $85 for 30 days.  
I've tried whey protein to increase glutathione, but I hate the taste except in 
a shake with milk or almond milk and banana, and get tired of that, so I tend 
not to use it often as I should.

Pat



  



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RE: CS>MaxGXL

[Nenah Sylver]

I would be careful with the MaxGXL. It contains a lot of medicinal mushrooms
that may negatively affect people who have Candida.

 

Someone sent me a sample packet, and I felt awful on the stuff. You can
purchase all its ingredients, minus the mushrooms, for a lot cheaper.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

& The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

www.nenahsylver.com    

 

-Original Message-
From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:32 PM
To: silver list
Subject: CS>MaxGXL

 

My ophthalmologist said it wouldn't hurt to try the n-acetylcarnosine (or
NAC) as cataract improvement, but he wasn't overly enthusiastic.  He said we
just don't know if it works or not, just like so many other things that will
never be tested. 

 

 He said glutathione is so important for the eyes and recommended MaxGXL
which provides the proper nutrients needed to promote the body's own ability
to manufacture and absorb glutathione. http://www.maxgxl.com/products.php
Has anyone tried this?  I will, but it's awfully expensive at $85 for 30
days.  I've tried whey protein to increase glutathione, but I hate the taste
except in a shake with milk or almond milk and banana, and get tired of
that, so I tend not to use it often as I should.

 

Pat

 

Re: CS>MaxGXL - cataracts

[Rowena]

Have you heard of or researched the use of coconut water in the eyes for 
cataracts?

Rowena

Pat wrote:
My ophthalmologist said it wouldn't hurt to try the n-acetylcarnosine (or NAC) as cataract improvement, but he wasn't overly enthusiastic.  He said we just don't know if it works or not, just like so many other things that will never be tested. 


 He said glutathione is so important for the eyes and recommended MaxGXL which 
provides the proper nutrients needed to promote the body's own ability to 
manufacture and absorb glutathione. http://www.maxgxl.com/products.php   Has 
anyone tried this?  I will, but it's awfully expensive at $85 for 30 days.  
I've tried whey protein to increase glutathione, but I hate the taste except in 
a shake with milk or almond milk and banana, and get tired of that, so I tend 
not to use it often as I should.

Pat



  



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