Re: CSDistiller arrives...

2010-11-03 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
It DOES contaminate the water!  I know--I tried it!  Much better use without.  
dee  PS Congratulations!!

On 3 Nov 2010, at 03:15, Beth wrote:

 We got our distiller today/// yea!!
 Just a question for those who home distill...
 Why not use the carbon filter that comes with it?
 Is this a protocol for making CS?
 Do you think it conaminates the water?
 
 I am also going to use my PPM hanna meter (its a pwt)
 for the first time so that is the plan before I make my first
 batch of CS. Testing everything.
 Any suggestions are welcome.
 
 Beth
 
 
 


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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Mine always reads 0 but I don't use the Hanna--just a TDS meter.  I believe the 
reading you got is perfectly acceptable using a Hanna.  dee

On 3 Nov 2010, at 04:05, Beth wrote:

 Okay so I did my first batch of water in the distiller.
 No filter.
 I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution requirements.
 Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
 It reads 2.8
 
 So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because it is the
 first time I used the unit. I dont know.
 I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes out to.
 
 It should be 0 to begin with right?
 
 Beth
 
 
 


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Re: CScetyl myristoleate

2010-11-03 Thread Tad Winiecki
I have tried CMO in the past, but I have gut issues that were not very 
compatible.  Lately I was having some pain issues in one hip joint and 
started taking Herbal (Horsetail) Silica tablets, and also drinking 
whole raw milk.  I don't know if it is one or both, but I was noticing I 
had NO pain or discomfort left in my joint anymore.


Nancy


 


I was diagnosed with Osteoarthritis last year.  Didn't have any
pain until about 2 months ago.  I'd call it about a 4 or 5 out of 10.
Have it in both hips.  I seem to recall that someone on the list
had success with cetyl myristoleate.  anyone remember something
about it?

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Re: CSOn a personal note............EDTA

2010-11-03 Thread Tad Winiecki

Here is where I bought some, scroll down to EDTA-

http://www.easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./Special_Products_A-G.html#7605

Nancy

Lisa wrote:

The only EDTA is what I remember being in some kind of mayonnaise (haha).
Is this an acronym for something and where can I purchase some?

Lisa


  

  



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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Dan Nave
Filter the water before distilling, not after.

Dan

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 Okay so I did my first batch of water in the distiller.
 No filter.
 I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution requirements.
 Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
 It reads 2.8

 So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because it is the
 first time I used the unit. I dont know.
 I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes out to.

 It should be 0 to begin with right?

 Beth



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Re: CScetyl myristoleate

2010-11-03 Thread Day Sutton
Thanks for the reply.  I'm taking Serrapeptase now along with the CMO.
Been on this list for several years.  I seem to remember that EIS will
create stem cells.
Anyone know what PPM and amount would do this ?

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote:

 I have tried CMO in the past, but I have gut issues that were not very
 compatible.  Lately I was having some pain issues in one hip joint and
 started taking Herbal (Horsetail) Silica tablets, and also drinking whole
 raw milk.  I don't know if it is one or both, but I was noticing I had NO
 pain or discomfort left in my joint anymore.

 Nancy



I was diagnosed with Osteoarthritis last year.  Didn't have any
pain until about 2 months ago.  I'd call it about a 4 or 5 out of 10.
Have it in both hips.  I seem to recall that someone on the list
had success with cetyl myristoleate.  anyone remember something
about it?

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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Beth
Actually I just realized that the temperature in my house
was not 77degrees. So this morning I reset the pwt meter using the
room temperature. I had to bring the calibration from 84 down to 76.
I wonder how that would impact my readings.

I am distilling water again.

Also, the distilled water read 2.8 last night but it was still warm
and this morning after it cooled down it read 0.7

I have to find the chart that helps me understand what that means in ppm.

I think if it reads 1.0 it means .4 ppm
My tap water reads 1   .  That is 1space space decimal point. So I believe
it is over its capacity!

Beth


 Filter the water before distilling,
 not after.
 
 Dan
 
 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
 wrote:
  Okay so I did my first batch of water in the
 distiller.
  No filter.
  I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution
 requirements.
  Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
  It reads 2.8
 
  So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because
 it is the
  first time I used the unit. I dont know.
  I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes
 out to.
 
  It should be 0 to begin with right?
 
  Beth
 
 
 
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Re: CSMercury Filling

2010-11-03 Thread Beth
I also heard, years ago, that you should go to a dentist that specializes in 
removing those
fillings. So that you do not become poisoned in the removal process. Any 
dentist can remove
them but not all dentists do it properly.
Beth

I would suggest you find a dentist who will protect you during the process.  It 
sounds like this one is playing with your health.
PT





From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 3:58:23 PM
Subject: CSMercury Filling

I went to the dentist today and although they said the gums were very healthy, 
I 
have a tooth with a big mercury filling that needs a crown.  It was originally 
filled in 1989 and has some decay.  The dentist, who calls them silver 
fillings, 
quit using them many years ago but won't come out and say they're bad.  They 
now 
have crowns with no metal, made of zirconia.  I'll be glad to get rid of the 
old 
filling, but I'm sure this regular dentist won't be doing all sorts of whatever 
the ones do who specialize in removing mercury fillings.  It's to be
 done one 
week from tomorrow.  Is there something I can take to start protecting me from 
the mercury I'll be inhaling or whatever?  Anything I should do afterwards?

Thanks, Pat







Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Trem

This is on our site.

Trem

1.Remove the carbon discharge filter.  It makes the water conductive.

2.Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4 full.

3.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

4.Discard the remainder in the boiling chamber.

5.Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have one gallon in the receiver.

6.Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling chamber.

7.Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

You now have what is called double distilled water.

Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure less than 1 microsiemen 
using a PWT meter..




- Original Message - 
From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter



Okay so I did my first batch of water in the distiller.
No filter.
I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution requirements.
Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
It reads 2.8

So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because it is the
first time I used the unit. I dont know.
I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes out to.

It should be 0 to begin with right?

Beth



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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Trem
Do NOT use the chart on the calibration solution bottle.  The meter 
automatically compensates for temperature using the thermocouple on the 
lower left side of the meter.  Set it to 84.0


Trem


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From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter



Actually I just realized that the temperature in my house
was not 77degrees. So this morning I reset the pwt meter using the
room temperature. I had to bring the calibration from 84 down to 76.
I wonder how that would impact my readings.

I am distilling water again.

Also, the distilled water read 2.8 last night but it was still warm
and this morning after it cooled down it read 0.7

I have to find the chart that helps me understand what that means in ppm.

I think if it reads 1.0 it means .4 ppm
My tap water reads 1   .  That is 1space space decimal point. So I believe
it is over its capacity!

Beth



Filter the water before distilling,
not after.

Dan

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
 Okay so I did my first batch of water in the
distiller.
 No filter.
 I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution
requirements.
 Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
 It reads 2.8

 So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because
it is the
 first time I used the unit. I dont know.
 I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes
out to.

 It should be 0 to begin with right?

 Beth



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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Beth
Yes and that means that I use 1.5 gallons of water and it 
yeilds only .5 gallons after 6-8 hours of distilling.

I distilled first batch last night it read 2.8 while still
warm however it read .7 this morning after it cooled and sat
a while.

I will continue to test the batches as they come out and as the
distiller gets older it might change. 
I am on a water system which is not potable. (like being in a cottage)
All of our drinking/cooking water
is bought so it becomes quite a waste when I start tossing out
a gallon of water each time.

If it was just coming out of the tap I probably would not mind as much.
1.5 gallons of water and 6-8 hours power for 1/2 gallon also seem like a lot of 
waste.
However I do understand that making the CS is what comes out cheaper
in the end no matter what I do.  :)

I just dont understand how the temperature would make such a difference
in the reading. 2.8 down to .7 is quite a difference. The PWT is suppose
to take temp into consideration.

Beth



 This is on our site.
 
 Trem
 
 1.    Remove the carbon discharge filter. 
 It makes the water conductive.
 
 2.    Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4
 full.
 
 3.    Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.
 
 4.    Discard the remainder in the boiling
 chamber.
 
 5.    Repeat steps 2,3 and 4.  You now have
 one gallon in the receiver.
 
 6.    Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling
 chamber.
 
 7.    Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.
 
 You now have what is called double distilled water.
 
 Allow to cool and try to use it.  It should measure
 less than 1 microsiemen 
 using a PWT meter..
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
 To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:05 PM
 Subject: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter
 
 
  Okay so I did my first batch of water in the
 distiller.
  No filter.
  I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution
 requirements.
  Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
  It reads 2.8
 
  So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because
 it is the
  first time I used the unit. I dont know.
  I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes
 out to.
 
  It should be 0 to begin with right?
 
  Beth
 
 
 




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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Beth
A
Now I have to do it over again LOL
I just reset it 
I should have just talked to someone over the phone!!
Lots of contradicting info all over the place ... whats is one to do?
Too funny!
Beth


 Do NOT use the chart on the
 calibration solution bottle.  The meter 
 automatically compensates for temperature using the
 thermocouple on the 
 lower left side of the meter.  Set it to 84.0
 
 Trem
 
 




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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Trem
It's more cost effective to buy the DW but double distillation is the way to 
go if you want the best.  We recommend that persons outside the U.S. having 
difficulty obtaining DW purchase a distiller and if they have poor quality 
end product, follow the steps outlined.


Trem


- Original Message - 
From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter



Yes and that means that I use 1.5 gallons of water and it
yeilds only .5 gallons after 6-8 hours of distilling.

I distilled first batch last night it read 2.8 while still
warm however it read .7 this morning after it cooled and sat
a while.

I will continue to test the batches as they come out and as the
distiller gets older it might change.
I am on a water system which is not potable. (like being in a cottage)
All of our drinking/cooking water
is bought so it becomes quite a waste when I start tossing out
a gallon of water each time.

If it was just coming out of the tap I probably would not mind as much.
1.5 gallons of water and 6-8 hours power for 1/2 gallon also seem like a 
lot of waste.

However I do understand that making the CS is what comes out cheaper
in the end no matter what I do.  :)

I just dont understand how the temperature would make such a difference
in the reading. 2.8 down to .7 is quite a difference. The PWT is suppose
to take temp into consideration.

Beth




This is on our site.

Trem

1. Remove the carbon discharge filter.
It makes the water conductive.

2. Fill the boiling chamber no more than 3/4
full.

3. Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

4. Discard the remainder in the boiling
chamber.

5. Repeat steps 2,3 and 4. You now have
one gallon in the receiver.

6. Put 3/4 gallon of this water in the boiling
chamber.

7. Distill only 1/2 gallon into the receiver.

You now have what is called double distilled water.

Allow to cool and try to use it. It should measure
less than 1 microsiemen
using a PWT meter..



- Original Message - 
From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter


 Okay so I did my first batch of water in the
distiller.
 No filter.
 I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution
requirements.
 Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
 It reads 2.8

 So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because
it is the
 first time I used the unit. I dont know.
 I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes
out to.

 It should be 0 to begin with right?

 Beth








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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Beth
Trem,
Do you think its okay to pour the solution into a glass, set the
calibration and pour the solution back into the bottle to use at 
later time? 
thanks
Beth


 A
 Now I have to do it over again LOL
 I just reset it 
 I should have just talked to someone over the phone!!
 Lots of contradicting info all over the place ... whats is
 one to do?
 Too funny!
 Beth
 
 
  Do NOT use the chart on the
  calibration solution bottle.  The meter 
  automatically compensates for temperature using the
  thermocouple on the 
  lower left side of the meter.  Set it to 84.0
  
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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Trem
And make sure mot to pour the solution back into the bottle and contaminate 
it.  Toss it.


Trem

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From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter



A
Now I have to do it over again LOL
I just reset it
I should have just talked to someone over the phone!!
Lots of contradicting info all over the place ... whats is one to do?
Too funny!
Beth



Do NOT use the chart on the
calibration solution bottle. The meter
automatically compensates for temperature using the
thermocouple on the
lower left side of the meter. Set it to 84.0

Trem







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Re: CSDistiller arrives...

2010-11-03 Thread Marshall Dudley

Carbon filtering the water before distilling it - good
Carbon filtering the water after distilling it - bad

The filter will remove some volatiles, which is good to remove before 
distilling. But it also can leave behind some salts or other dissolved 
material which is bad after distilling.


Marshall


On 11/2/2010 11:15 PM, Beth wrote:

We got our distiller today/// yea!!
Just a question for those who home distill...
Why not use the carbon filter that comes with it?
Is this a protocol for making CS?
Do you think it conaminates the water?

I am also going to use my PPM hanna meter (its a pwt)
for the first time so that is the plan before I make my first
batch of CS. Testing everything.
Any suggestions are welcome.

Beth



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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Not with a charcoal filter.  dee

On 3 Nov 2010, at 13:18, Dan Nave wrote:

 Filter the water before distilling, not after.
 
 Dan
 
 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 Okay so I did my first batch of water in the distiller.
 No filter.
 I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution requirements.
 Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
 It reads 2.8
 
 So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because it is the
 first time I used the unit. I dont know.
 I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes out to.
 
 It should be 0 to begin with right?
 
 Beth
 
 
 


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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
My tap water reads 288!  dee


On 3 Nov 2010, at 13:53, Beth wrote:

 Actually I just realized that the temperature in my house
 was not 77degrees. So this morning I reset the pwt meter using the
 room temperature. I had to bring the calibration from 84 down to 76.
 I wonder how that would impact my readings.
 
 I am distilling water again.
 
 Also, the distilled water read 2.8 last night but it was still warm
 and this morning after it cooled down it read 0.7
 
 I have to find the chart that helps me understand what that means in ppm.
 
 I think if it reads 1.0 it means .4 ppm
 My tap water reads 1   .  That is 1space space decimal point. So I believe
 it is over its capacity!
 
 Beth
 
 


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Re: CSDistiller arrives...

2010-11-03 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Well I did mine before distilling and then distilled and it read 2.  I then 
distilled it again and it read 3!  When I didn't carbon filter it at all, it 
reads 0.  dee


On 3 Nov 2010, at 15:09, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 Carbon filtering the water before distilling it - good
 Carbon filtering the water after distilling it - bad
 
 The filter will remove some volatiles, which is good to remove before 
 distilling. But it also can leave behind some salts or other dissolved 
 material which is bad after distilling.
 
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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
If this is well water then that is likely calcium carbonate from 
underground limestone.  That would be about 250 or so ppm of hardness if so.


Marshall

On 11/3/2010 12:17 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

My tap water reads 288!  dee


On 3 Nov 2010, at 13:53, Beth wrote:


Actually I just realized that the temperature in my house
was not 77degrees. So this morning I reset the pwt meter using the
room temperature. I had to bring the calibration from 84 down to 76.
I wonder how that would impact my readings.

I am distilling water again.

Also, the distilled water read 2.8 last night but it was still warm
and this morning after it cooled down it read 0.7

I have to find the chart that helps me understand what that means in ppm.

I think if it reads 1.0 it means .4 ppm
My tap water reads 1   .  That is 1space space decimal point. So I believe
it is over its capacity!

Beth




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Re: CSMercury Filling

2010-11-03 Thread Pat
I asked him if he could prevent the mercury he removes from entering my body 
and 
he said oh yes, and something about high speed drill and vaporizing, etc.  So 
how are you supposed to know if you can trust the dentist you've used 
successfully for 21 years or not.  And if there are 100 dentists in the area, 
how would you know which one could do it better?

Pat






From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 9:57:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSMercury Filling


I also heard, years ago, that you should go to a dentist that specializes in 
removing those
fillings. So that you do not become poisoned in the removal process. Any 
dentist 
can remove
them but not all dentists do it properly.
Beth



I would suggest you find a dentist who will protect you during the process.  
It 
sounds like this one is playing with your health.
PT





 From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 3:58:23 PM
Subject: CSMercury Filling

I went to the dentist today and although they said the gums were very healthy, 
I 

have a tooth with a big mercury filling that needs a crown.  It was originally 
filled in 1989 and has some decay.  The dentist, who calls them silver 
fillings, 

quit using them many years ago but won't come out and say they're bad.  They 
now 

have crowns with no metal, made of zirconia.  I'll be glad to get rid of the 
old 

filling, but I'm sure this regular dentist won't be doing all sorts of 
whatever 

the ones do who specialize in removing mercury fillings.  It's to  be  done 
one 

week from tomorrow.  Is there something I can take to start protecting me from 
the mercury I'll be inhaling or whatever?  Anything I should do afterwards?

Thanks, Pat



 



  

CSPromising Wrinkled Skin Treatment

2010-11-03 Thread randy
I do work for a cosmetic company, can I share this with them and use your
name as a contact?

Randy Scott


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RE: CSPromising Wrinkled Skin Treatment

2010-11-03 Thread Lisa
It's not even my call: however, I'd hate for this to happen. A cosmetic
company would then call it it's own, patent it and then modify it, change it
and add all sorts of other stuff to it. Leave it for public domain and in
Brooks more than capable hands!

-Original Message-
From: ra...@shavetailalpaca.com [mailto:ra...@shavetailalpaca.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPromising Wrinkled Skin Treatment

I do work for a cosmetic company, can I share this with them and use your
name as a contact?

Randy Scott


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Re: CSMercury Filling

2010-11-03 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Pat -- it is exactly that vaporizing that is dangerous.  You know that you 
cannot trust him in this matter exactly because of that comment.  What he 
should 
have said is that you will have an oxygen mask so that you're not breathing in 
the vaporized mercury, and a dam in your mouth so that the mercury-contaminated 
water can't be swallowed.
You would be very wise to find a dentist that understands the dangers involved 
here, and who is prepared to protect you from them.  I drove two hours each way 
to a dentist last year when I had my old failing silver fillings replaced.  I 
found him on an internet search, because my regular dentist was about as 
concerned as yours. 

Try going to www.dentalwellness4u.com and see if they have a list of holistic 
dentists.  If not, a Google search should bring them up.
MA



From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 12:44:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSMercury Filling


I asked him if he could prevent the mercury he removes from entering my body 
and 
he said oh yes, and something about high speed drill and vaporizing, etc.  So 
how are you supposed to know if you can trust the dentist you've used 
successfully for 21 years or not.  And if there are 100 dentists in the area, 
how would you know which one could do it better?

Pat






From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 9:57:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSMercury Filling


I also heard, years ago, that you should go to a dentist that specializes in 
removing those
fillings. So that you do not become poisoned in the removal process. Any 
dentist 
can remove
them but not all dentists do it properly.
Beth



I would suggest you find a dentist who will protect you during the process.  
It 
sounds like this one is playing with your health.
PT





From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 3:58:23 PM
Subject: CSMercury Filling

I went to the dentist today and although they said the gums were very healthy, 
I 

have a tooth with a big mercury filling that needs a crown.  It was originally 
filled in 1989 and has some decay.  The dentist, who calls them silver 
fillings, 

quit using them many years ago but won't come out and say they're bad.  They 
now 

have crowns with no metal, made of zirconia.  I'll be glad to get rid of the 
old 

filling, but I'm sure this regular dentist won't be doing all sorts of 
whatever 

the ones do who specialize in removing mercury fillings.  It's to be done one 
week from tomorrow.  Is there something I can take to start protecting me from 
the mercury I'll be inhaling or whatever?  Anything I should do afterwards?

Thanks, Pat



 

CSMercury Filling

2010-11-03 Thread Jon
Hi Pat,

Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal to chelate 
the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could make your own 
liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV.



  

RE: CSMercury Filling vit C

2010-11-03 Thread jessie70
What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM
  To: silver list
  Cc: Pat
  Subject: CSMercury Filling


  Hi Pat,

  Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal to
chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could make
your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV.




RE: CSMercury Filling vit C

2010-11-03 Thread M. G. Devour
A couple of cautions: 

Don't take oral vitamin C before the procedure, as it will make the 
novocaine less effective. That's why IV C during or immediately after 
the procedure is preferred.

I don't remember how long before the procedure you'd want to stop 
taking any oral C, but if I had to guess on the basis of my vague 
recollection, it would probably be at least 12 hours. Maybe somebody 
else knows this?

Lacking the IV option, hopefully liposomal encapsulated C will serve.

The other caution is this: If this is your last or only mercury 
containing filling, once it is removed be prepared for your body to 
begin to mobilize the mercury you've absorbed over the years in an 
attempt to get rid of it now that you're not under the daily assault of 
ongoing exposure.

Once the new exposure stops, your body will change gears and start 
trying to get rid of it. The problem is the eliminative pathways are so 
inefficient that blood levels of mercury will climb and you'll be at 
risk of toxic effects as bad or worse than if you left the filling in 
place.

To combat this, you'll want to actively pursue therapies to help your 
body eliminate mercury faster, such as daily FIR sauna or other means 
of sweating copiously, oral chelation therapies, etc...

Peace,

Mike D.


 What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess
   -Original Message-
   From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM
   To: silver list
   Cc: Pat
   Subject: CSMercury Filling
 
 
   Hi Pat,
 
   Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal
   to
 chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could
 make your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV.
 
 
 

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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CSpwt vs tds

2010-11-03 Thread Beth
Okay lots of great info regarding water etc however
I am not sure what is the difference between this hanna pwt
and a TDS that I also see people talk about.
Does the pwt meter read differently?

My second batch of water came out high around 2.3 and then after it
cooled over an hour or so, it came down somewhat also.
My batch last night was 2.8 and in the morning was below .7
I mixed my second batch with the first and its at 1.4


Strange.
=Beth



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Re: CSPromising Wrinkled Skin Treatment

2010-11-03 Thread Jane MacRoss
Oh yes - definitely - keep away from cosmetic companies - I just received 
what I was told was a good organic base for skin creams made from olives - 
and in the brochure the recommended recipes for commercially produced 
specific creams for wrinkles, dry skin, etc but using this olive product as 
a base -  these recipes contained additives including Propylene Glycol as 
well as Aluminium!!


Leave things basic so you know what's in them!!

Best,

Jane



It's not even my call: however, I'd hate for this to happen. A cosmetic
company would then call it it's own, patent it and then modify it, change 
it

and add all sorts of other stuff to it. Leave it for public domain and in
Brooks more than capable hands!




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Re: CSMercury Filling

2010-11-03 Thread Jane MacRoss
We had a (chocolate flavoured) rubber shield which isolated the tooth being 
worked on and was attached to an exterior frame - there was no access to the 
throat or nose of the victim. We also all wore plastic googles, operators wore 
masks.

Jane 

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  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryAnn Helland 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:02 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMercury Filling


  Pat -- it is exactly that vaporizing that is dangerous.  You know that you 
cannot trust him in this matter exactly because of that comment.  What he 
should have said is that you will have an oxygen mask so that you're not 
breathing in the vaporized mercury, and a dam in your mouth so that the 
mercury-contaminated water can't be swallowed.
  You would be very wise to find a dentist that understands the dangers 
involved here, and who is prepared to protect you from them.  I drove two hours 
each way to a dentist last year when I had my old failing silver fillings 
replaced.  I found him on an internet search, because my regular dentist was 
about as concerned as yours. 

  Try going to www.dentalwellness4u.com and see if they have a list of holistic 
dentists.  If not, a Google search should bring them up.
  MA


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  From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 12:44:43 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMercury Filling


  I asked him if he could prevent the mercury he removes from entering my body 
and he said oh yes, and something about high speed drill and vaporizing, etc.  
So how are you supposed to know if you can trust the dentist you've used 
successfully for 21 years or not.  And if there are 100 dentists in the area, 
how would you know which one could do it better?

  Pat






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  From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 9:57:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMercury Filling

I also heard, years ago, that you should go to a dentist that 
specializes in removing those
fillings. So that you do not become poisoned in the removal process. 
Any dentist can remove
them but not all dentists do it properly.
Beth



  I would suggest you find a dentist who will protect you during the 
process.  It sounds like this one is playing with your health.
  PT




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  From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
  To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 3:58:23 PM
  Subject: CSMercury Filling

  I went to the dentist today and although they said the gums were very 
healthy, I 
  have a tooth with a big mercury filling that needs a crown.  It was 
originally 
  filled in 1989 and has some decay.  The dentist, who calls them 
silver fillings, 
  quit using them many years ago but won't come out and say they're 
bad.  They now 
  have crowns with no metal, made of zirconia.  I'll be glad to get rid 
of the old 
  filling, but I'm sure this regular dentist won't be doing all sorts 
of whatever 
  the ones do who specialize in removing mercury fillings.  It's to be 
done one 
  week from tomorrow.  Is there something I can take to start 
protecting me from 
  the mercury I'll be inhaling or whatever?  Anything I should do 
afterwards?

  Thanks, Pat



   






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CSlong and short rods

2010-11-03 Thread Beth
Hi again,
new subject here...
I have seen a video online that where the guys says
 you don't have to use 2 long silver
rods. That you only need 1 long (the one the silver comes off of)
and the one that has the charge, it only needs to be a short wire and
that it will conduct the other wire no matter how long or short it is.
Any thoughts on that?

Beth



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Re: CSPromising Wrinkled lSkin Treatment

2010-11-03 Thread Saralou
I wonder if adding a bit of saturated Urea solution to the mixture below 
would help with absorption.  I'm sure it would help the way the DMSO 
smells.


Thanks Brooks.

Saralou


On 11/2/2010 5:27 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote:
The protocol consisted of diluting hydrolyzed collagen powder with 
distilled water ( substituted 10 ppm CS in cases presenting with skin 
abrasions), and mixing with undiluted DMSO as follows:
(1) into about 1 cup of distilled water or CS, added powdered hydrolyzed 
collagen to saturation point (no more powder would go into solution)
(2) using this solution as the parent (75% by volume), mixed in DMSO 
(25% by volume) and allowed to cool to room temperature.


   * Candidate skin surface was prepared by light washing/rinsing,
 using weak soap solution.
   * Damp drying and applying, generously. the Collagen X DMSO
 solution (using care about the eyes, due to the hygroscopic nature
 of DMSO).
   * Allow 5 to 10 minutes for proper absorption.
   * A shiny surface appearance is quite normal as is a slightly
 sticky feel on the fingers when moved across the treated surface.

Obvious Results: Immediately, it becomes evident that the very small 
wrinkles are noticeably reduced in appearance (a result of the hydrating 
of the outer skin layers), as the tiny valleys appear to fill-in as 
the entrained moisture penetrates AND softens. While the larger wrinkles 
(containing the higher densities of free-standing lean tissue) present 
a much lower degree of improvement they do enjoy a noticeable/marked 
improvement in softness-due, primarily, to the improved hydration.
Overall enhancement in skin softness and general pliability, presents 
immediately and is evident to even the most skeptical (at least that has 
been our, repeatable, experience). When this protocol is repeated twice 
daily, the general improvement in reduced wrinkling effect and skin 
surface pliability becomes quite evident.
Note: Due to the residual effect of the excess collagen on the skin 
surface (gives a glazed appearance), a woman might desire to remove this 
simply by wiping with a damp cloth---before applying make-up or just 
leaving it au natural after the wiping.
We achieved similar results with several different suppliers' hydrolyzed 
collagen product, but the most effective appeared to be the 
Instantized variety from Beyond-a-Century. We purchased the Hydrolyzed 
Collagen in the 1 lb. containers at reasonable cost from all suppliers. 
It is of note that care is recommended when applying the DMSO X COLLAGEN 
solution close to the eyes. Although there is no demonstrated danger in 
case some material got on to the eyeball and/or the lid
.. the hygroscopic effect of even 25% DMSO could result in 
sensations akin to burning..


Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p. s. There is, some, evidence that entrained 
collagen is depositing in the lean tissue fractions underlying the 
skin layers. We have not employed testing that would, conclusively, 
substantiate this indication. Such testing involves rather costly 
endeavors .. and we are not in the cosmetics business. so will 
not undertake such action. However, such measures might well appeal to 
persons who are, commercially, active in this field.








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