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Mike - how profound a sentiment. You wrote You wish The gift of wellness and healing to all. Now. If only that were something that could actually be given and received in lieu of XBoxes, slippers, ties and Flat panel TV,s My goodness, to think of how such thoughts / real possibilities would send shivers to the core of corporate retail stores. :) Heres wishing everyone..health, happiness, peace and prosperity for the NEW YEAR! Cheers. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html --- On Fri, 12/24/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: CS[List Owner] Thanks... To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 10:09 AM The tree is trimmed, the last present arrived with the smiling UPS guy, and strains of Mannheim Steamroller are wafting through the house with the smell of baking... grin Thank you for being in my life this past year, and past decade in the case of some of you! LOL Above all, I wish the gift of healing and wellness to all. Peace. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Information as a gift for Christmas to you all. Milk and all milk products (cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The studies starting back in the late 1800 are saying that all animal protein is harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers, Cancer, Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal protein in the amounts we eat is the cause of most if not all diseases. This information would also turn the stock market upside down and ruin countless farmers. So with all things the changes for most US and European people will come slowly if at all. Hope and pray you had a great Christmas and your family has better health soon. MLE - Original Message - From: Carol Annmailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:04 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks... Mike - how profound a sentiment. You wrote You wish The gift of wellness and healing to all. Now. If only that were something that could actually be given and received in lieu of XBoxes, slippers, ties and Flat panel TV,s My goodness, to think of how such thoughts / real possibilities would send shivers to the core of corporate retail stores. :) Heres wishing everyone..health, happiness, peace and prosperity for the NEW YEAR! Cheers. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html --- On Fri, 12/24/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: CS[List Owner] Thanks... To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 10:09 AM The tree is trimmed, the last present arrived with the smiling UPS guy, and strains of Mannheim Steamroller are wafting through the house with the smell of baking... grin Thank you for being in my life this past year, and past decade in the case of some of you! LOL Above all, I wish the gift of healing and wellness to all. Peace. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc1207.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc1207.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc1207.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc1207.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
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I thought we needed to eat animal protein because that is what we are made of. In moderate amounts of course. I think that a much more likely culprit for the cause of all disease is sugar. dee On 27 Dec 2010, at 16:14, Marlene Hanson wrote: Information as a gift for Christmas to you all. Milk and all milk products (cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The studies starting back in the late 1800 are saying that all animal protein is harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers, Cancer, Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal protein in the amounts we eat is the cause of most if not all diseases. This information would also turn the stock market upside down and ruin countless farmers. So with all things the changes for most US and European people will come slowly if at all. Hope and pray you had a great Christmas and your family has better health soon. MLE - Original Message - F -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It would be much easier to have an Alcat test and find out which foods each body is intolerant of. We are all different and what works for my body may not work for another. Happy Holidays. PT From: Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 11:14:51 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks... Information as a gift for Christmas to you all. Milk and all milk products (cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The studies starting back in the late 1800 aresaying that all animal protein is harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers, Cancer, Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal protein in the amounts we eat is the cause of most if not all diseases. This information would also turn the stock market upside down and ruin countless farmers. So with all things the changes for most US and European people will come slowly if at all. Hope and pray you had a great Christmas and your family has better health soon. MLE - Original Message - From: Carol Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:04 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks... Mike - how profound a sentiment. You wrote You wish The gift of wellness and healing to all. Now. If only that were something that could actually be given and received in lieu of XBoxes, slippers, ties and Flat panel TV,s My goodness, to think of how such thoughts / real possibilities would send shivers to the core of corporate retail stores. :) Heres wishing everyone..health, happiness, peace and prosperity for the NEW YEAR! Cheers. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html --- On Fri, 12/24/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: CS[List Owner] Thanks... To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 10:09 AM The tree is trimmed, the last present arrived with the smiling UPS guy, and strains of Mannheim Steamroller are wafting through the house with the smell of baking... grin Thank you for being in my life this past year, and past decade in the case of some of you! LOL Above all, I wish the gift of healing and wellness to all. Peace. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The studies have been documented and presented to the major organizations who control information release to the media. They show that our bodies immune system makes antibodies to animal protein. The antibodies cause inflammation and disease processes. Most of these agencies and organizations are receiving support from the agriculture business, and they have connections with all the government agencies. Refined foods are not healthy and the toxic, poisoned foods are not healthy but according to all the studies the real offenders to our immune system and health are animal proteins. Read the book (The China Study) The studies are documented and very concise. Just look who has the most disease, the highest health care and how much animal we consume in relation to Rural Asia and other third world countries. MLE - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrickmailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:23 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks... I thought we needed to eat animal protein because that is what we are made of. In moderate amounts of course. I think that a much more likely culprit for the cause of all disease is sugar. dee On 27 Dec 2010, at 16:14, Marlene Hanson wrote: Information as a gift for Christmas to you all. Milk and all milk products (cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The studies starting back in the late 1800 are saying that all animal protein is harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers, Cancer, Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal protein in the amounts we eat is the cause of most if not all diseases. This information would also turn the stock market upside down and ruin countless farmers. So with all things the changes for most US and European people will come slowly if at all. Hope and pray you had a great Christmas and your family has better health soon. MLE - Original Message - F -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribemailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yes but there are a lot of other variables as well. Our society consumes mountains of sugar and sugar related i.e. white flour products too. Asian communities don't tend to do that, but when they do, they become just as diseased as us. When we were children we had the meat and veg dinners and very little sweet products, and I didn't know *anyone* who was allergic to *anything!* Allergies are a modern disease and I suspect - very sugar related. I know that some people are allergic to dairy products but then, milk is boiled to render it unusable by the body and a lot of 'dairy' contains hydrogenated vegetable oil to make it easy to spread. Hydrogenation is one of the major factors in the spread of heart disease and cancer. As far as animal protein is concerned, our bodies are designed to cope with it, only not animals that have been given growth hormones and anti-biotics etc., If we lived in the wild, we would eat whatever vegetation we could find, and the odd small animal we could catch--not chocolate, sweets, bread, and highly processed vegetable oils etc., There is also the question of over-vaccination, which is another can of worms. dee On 27 Dec 2010, at 16:42, Marlene Hanson wrote: The studies have been documented and presented to the major organizations who control information release to the media. They show that our bodies immune system makes antibodies to animal protein. The antibodies cause inflammation and disease processes. Most of these agencies and organizations are receiving support from the agriculture business, and they have connections with all the government agencies. Refined foods are not healthy and the toxic, poisoned foods are not healthy but according to all the studies the real offenders to our immune system and health are animal proteins. Read the book (The China Study) The studies are documented and very concise. Just look who has the most disease, the highest health care and how much animal we consume in relation to Rural Asia and other third world countries. MLE - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:23 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi,Dee There is a lot of truth in what you say. I believe you have studied as I have to get the information you have just shared. The information in this book did take that information into account as well and was able to convince me that although there is relevance in all the information we both have that it is the immune system which is being impacted by animal protein that is causing most disease. These researchers documented population studies and then brought this to the US University Labs and used long term animal studies to prove the validity of their observations and the population studies. Most libraries have the book (The China Study) although the studies were not just performed in China. I think you may find it interesting. MLE
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Hi Marlene, I hope your holidays were a joy to you as well, and I don't mean to be contentious, but I must disagree not only with your premis but also with your choice of sources. There's no doubt that some people, even populations, are allergic to milk, and/or wheat, and/or animal protein, and/or various veggies, and franken-foods like GMO peanuts, etc. Also I can hardly doubt your own experiences - why should I? But by a similar token there are others, such as myself who have directly opposite experience to yours regarding food and allergies. I'll give one or two examples; I am not allergic to milk nor to milk products, nor to dairy, in fact we kept a cow during my childhood and my only allergy was to having to go get her from wherever she had wandered during the day, to come home for milking in the evening. My brother and I had our cups on a ledge in the barn and my dad would fill them with fresh foamy milk right from the cow; we were enormously proud of our new foam moustaches! I have continued to drink milk copiously throughout my life and I'm now 76. No prob. with milk. During the 60's there was a great movement toward vegetarianism, soy, brown rice, tofu; turns out I am allergic to soy and soy products, and I don't mean just a little! I don't mind their taste at all, but as idealism swept over our dietary habits in my - err, youth - and us rebellious idealists expressed our desire for a better world through our actions, I had enough soy dumped on my plate so that even through the blur of right thinking it became real clear that soy was not good for me. It was Bad for me. I have been approximately omnivorous throughout my life, with a strong bias toward carnivory; partly you might argue I'd been brainwashed by my society, after all Beef; it's what's for dinner. But my dietary preference was shaped in the relative absence of TV - it was shaped by what tasted good and what was available during the year, living in California; i.e., just about everything. I'd like to introduce another idea into this discussion, first time I ran into it was reading a book - Eat Right For Your Type - by Dr. Peter Adamso. The idea is that what your body does well with in the way of food, depends - or is shown by - your blood type. For instance; if you were from northern (cold) hunter-gatherer stock you'd be well adapted to meat and milk since live animals were the primary storage device; if from a sub-tropical temperate plains environment such as vast areas of China, you'd be partial to cultivated and field crops, and so on. He presents lots of good evidence to back up the history of blood types and diet and also the presence and absence of allergies to this-n-that, all based on blood types. So, if your examples are drawn from studies in China what could be more obvious than that they would show allergic reaction to heavy meat consumption? The vast majority of that population has historically subsisted quite well on vegetation; That's what's for dinner there - or was, until globalization. Globalization began with the migrations - driven by past climate alterations - of formerly isolated populations, perhaps ten or twenty or fifty thousand years ago. And Dr. Adamso points out that these migrations, which are mapped by DNA tracing as well as other anthropological evidence also show the development of the various blood-types and intermixes that have occured. So, take it from there, Malcolm On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 08:14 -0800, Marlene Hanson wrote: Information as a gift for Christmas to you all. Milk and all milk products (cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The studies starting back in the late 1800 are saying that all animal protein is harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers, Cancer, Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal protein in the amounts we eat is the cause of most if not all diseases. This information would also turn the stock market upside down and ruin countless farmers. So with all things the changes for most US and European people will come slowly if at all.
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Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world countries based on plants instead of animals. Yes, everyone knows their health is legendary. On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Malcolm wrote: Hi Marlene, I hope your holidays were a joy to you as well, and I don't mean to be contentious, but I must disagree not only with your premis but also with your choice of sources. There's no doubt that some people, even populations, are allergic to milk, and/or wheat, and/or animal protein, and/or various veggies, and franken-foods like GMO peanuts, etc. Also I can hardly doubt your own experiences - why should I? But by a similar token there are others, such as myself who have directly opposite experience to yours regarding food and allergies. I'll give one or two examples; I am not allergic to milk nor to milk products, nor to dairy, in fact we kept a cow during my childhood and my only allergy was to having to go get her from wherever she had wandered during the day, to come home for milking in the evening. My brother and I had our cups on a ledge in the barn and my dad would fill them with fresh foamy milk right from the cow; we were enormously proud of our new foam moustaches! I have continued to drink milk copiously throughout my life and I'm now 76. No prob. with milk. During the 60's there was a great movement toward vegetarianism, soy, brown rice, tofu; turns out I am allergic to soy and soy products, and I don't mean just a little! I don't mind their taste at all, but as idealism swept over our dietary habits in my - err, youth - and us rebellious idealists expressed our desire for a better world through our actions, I had enough soy dumped on my plate so that even through the blur of right thinking it became real clear that soy was not good for me. It was Bad for me. I have been approximately omnivorous throughout my life, with a strong bias toward carnivory; partly you might argue I'd been brainwashed by my society, after all Beef; it's what's for dinner. But my dietary preference was shaped in the relative absence of TV - it was shaped by what tasted good and what was available during the year, living in California; i.e., just about everything. I'd like to introduce another idea into this discussion, first time I ran into it was reading a book - Eat Right For Your Type - by Dr. Peter Adamso. The idea is that what your body does well with in the way of food, depends - or is shown by - your blood type. For instance; if you were from northern (cold) hunter-gatherer stock you'd be well adapted to meat and milk since live animals were the primary storage device; if from a sub-tropical temperate plains environment such as vast areas of China, you'd be partial to cultivated and field crops, and so on. He presents lots of good evidence to back up the history of blood types and diet and also the presence and absence of allergies to this-n-that, all based on blood types. So, if your examples are drawn from studies in China what could be more obvious than that they would show allergic reaction to heavy meat consumption? The vast majority of that population has historically subsisted quite well on vegetation; That's what's for dinner there - or was, until globalization. Globalization began with the migrations - driven by past climate alterations - of formerly isolated populations, perhaps ten or twenty or fifty thousand years ago. And Dr. Adamso points out that these migrations, which are mapped by DNA tracing as well as other anthropological evidence also show the development of the various blood-types and intermixes that have occured. So, take it from there, Malcolm On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 08:14 -0800, Marlene Hanson wrote: Information as a gift for Christmas to you all. Milk and all milk products (cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The studies starting back in the late 1800 are saying that all animal protein is harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers, Cancer, Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal protein in the amounts we eat is the
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Thank you Malcolm, I agree with you on many points. I too was a farm girl and have eaten well and was just sharing what is currently controversial and helping me. I am sensitive to animal protein and am doing better with the vegetable and fruit based diet. I am typed as o Positive so according to that I should do well with animal protein. This book is good for me. It may help others as well. Have a joyful Holiday Season. MLE
