Re: CSCS falling out of suspesion Ode
If you think your drinking water needs to be sterilized, fine Otherwise Why on earth would you want to? I don't think that exposing your CS to contaminants all-day is going to help the CS any. Ode At 09:02 AM 2/12/2011 -0800, you wrote: Thanks tons Ode Does it hurt to put it in your cold drinking water? Just for the day, that I carry around with me? Your awesome :) From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 7:49:07 AM Subject: Re: CSCS falling out of suspesion I have never found a shelf life for home made CS and I've kept samples for over 8 years...if kept well sealed away from the air which can eventually oxidize ions or make light sensitive silver carbonates from the CO2 in the air. If particles are colloidal in size they will never fall out of suspension, but they can cluster some, being held apart by weak Van der Waals forces. Excessive Brownian motion [heat] could possibly case a few collisions over time. Ions are not in suspension TO fall out, they are in solution and cannot fall out and still remain ions. Ions are held apart by strong electron shell charges and can't cluster. Electromagnetic radiation can add electrons to ions at the surface of the container and cause some plate out. If you make strong CS cold, the solubility limit of the water drops and some ions are forced to become particles which can then drop out. Only Mild Silver Protein [MSP] contains stabilizers..not the same thing. CS made with pure water and pure silver, sealed up well and away from brush type motors and radio transmitters, kept at room temperatures...seems to last forever. Even when not, seems to last a long time. Several months at least but no limit to, at most. Even if a bit degraded, it's still good, just not 'as good' Worst thing to do is freeze it. Ode At 07:38 PM 2/11/2011 -0800, you wrote: The statement below was posted in one of my other groupscould I get some clarity from people in the group about this please? thanks in advance Debbie As for storing CS, unfortunately it does not have a long shelf life. The silver particles and ions fall out of suspension after a period of time. I think they lose their electrical charge and clump together, most commercially available CS contain stabilizers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Falling out of suspension/Ole Bobs' book
Yes, technically an ion is a particle as it takes up space and has mass, but it's a technicality often used to confuse more than inform, so you get people asking things like if this process makes smaller ions. In common usage *CS* is a blanket term that allows all sorts of things to fit so long as any part of it fits the definition, even if it's the smallest part. [There IS no smaller part than an ion of silver and if it gets smaller it isn't silver] Hence the coinage of the term EIS [Electrically Isolated Silver] but not yet in common usage. Imagine that you were shopping for an out building and wound up paying for a sky scraper with dog house sized doors. Ode At 10:28 AM 2/12/2011 -0800, you wrote: In his book page iii; Quote: ION; An atom that has lost one of its' electrons.A silver ion expressed as Ag+ indicating that it has lost one electron,and is water soluble,and will stay in solution indefinitely.The ion is still classified as a particle. End of quote. My experience ; one of my first batches [many years ago]was put in glass,lidded, and placed up on a shelf in my work-shop and it still has not changed,still in full solution,no plating,no settling out, with Tyndall effect. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS falling out of suspesion Ode
The water is reverse osmosis waterI just thought it would be a good idea to have some degree of cs going into me all day being I am exposed to sick people all the time, and it is convenient to have it in the water that I carry with me daily, Thanks again Ode Debbie From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 6:52:21 AM Subject: Re: CSCS falling out of suspesion Ode If you think your drinking water needs to be sterilized, fine Otherwise Why on earth would you want to? I don't think that exposing your CS to contaminants all-day is going to help the CS any. Ode At 09:02 AM 2/12/2011 -0800, you wrote: Thanks tons Ode Does it hurt to put it in your cold drinking water? Just for the day, that I carry around with me? Your awesome :) From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CS12 Feb - Are you aware of this ?
Hi Sandee, Did you just discover our web archives? The mail-archive site is where I've set up our list archives, sometime last year. Peace, Mike D. Hi There Mike, as you may have noted I sent an advice out re the below to the list on the 11th Feb I was just googling to find the website in England to order some more and up comes this piece of information - are you aware that this is what is going on !If not then I find it very interesting so over to you for your comments Regards Sandee CS11 Feb - Silvatec Soap !! Feb 11, 2011 ... Hi There to all - I have just used a lovely soap out of England called Silvatec - www.silvatec.org go and have a look ! ... www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg140672.html Attitude is everything $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d56bf45ddba9357a14st01vuc [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS12 Feb - Are you aware of this ?
Ok Mike this shows just how little I know or understand about the Web - this was on a google page not any archives - however it really does not matter because it is proving very hard to find the soap, I have had to go directly to Waitrose which is where my friend bought it for me, and even they do not show it as being one of the products they carry - so maybe it is best forgotten. Take good care of you, enjoy the daily movies, and make sure you live every moment to the fullest, with many blessings, good health and thanks for being a super moderator !!! Warmest regards Sandee Attitude is everything $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d5874241fcc132734est02duc -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #54
Hi Everyone, Can we make soap out of the CS/EIS? Instead of using ordinary water to dissolve the sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide? Will the CS property still stay, what about if it got mixed with olive oil and coconut oil? This would be a nice soap to make. Melly --- On Sun, 2/13/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #54 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 3:48 PM
Re: CSEIS/CS Archives
Yeah, me too! On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Harold MacDonald wrote: This works for me. http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html