Re: CSBrooks - what doses of Lipo-C were used?
Good morning Brooks, I'm sorry to barge in on this theme but have a question to do with liposomal VC i.e. in your home-made version, is it necessary to use distilled water over tap water? I just wondered what the difference would be or would it make it less efficacious. Many thanks, dee On 21 Apr 2011, at 00:09, Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear David, We HAVE NOT used liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C as a standalone protocol..in addressing cancer presentations in any experimental mammal evaluations. If I have indicated otherwise, my apologies. As relates to dosages utilized by other, mainstream, researchers (e.g. Dr. Thomas E. Levy, in conjunction with Livon Laboratories).executing a Google-type search engine should yield some useful information. Generally, we have found that a 1/5th Liposomal equivalency (e.g. 5 grams of Liposomal-encapsulated Vitamin C substitued for 25 grams conventional sodium ascorbate) -yields equal...or better... results--than does the conventional sodium ascorbate... and even better against ascorbic acid solutions. The largest dosages...of which we are aware... to have been utilized by researchers is about 40 grams per day-of NON-LIPOSOMAL C. In most cases divided into three to four doses (to maintain acceptable titers within the cardiovascular system.) This would equate to, roughly, 8 grams of Liposomal product.using the ratio stated above. Actually, my fiqures are VERY CONSERVATIVE, as some cases of which we are aware furnished quantitative results of 10 to 1.in favor of the Liposomal modality. One genuine advantage to Liposomal Vit. C is that the bowel tolerance challenge is circumvented. I believe that Dr. Mathias Rath has evaluated the usage of Liposomally-encapsulated Vit. C in recently past evaluations (but am not positive of this). If so, his findings would justify serious considerationas I regard him as one of the few really, leading-edge researchers in this part of the cancer treatment modality arena. My apologies for being unable to supply a more definitive and useful response to your inquiry. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsilver ionotophoresis for cancer friend
You might want to check out the micro electricity group too. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams -Original Message- From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsilver ionotophoresis for cancer friend My friends colon tumor has grown and can now be felt underneath the skin. Is silver ionotophoresis able to be used on tumors like that? I don't really understand it. Or is it something you need the cancer to already be outside the skin? If it is possible, can someone please tell me about how to get it set up? I am just looking into locally applied treatment options to add to his treatment, since the tumor can now be felt near the surface. Thanks, ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver ionotophoresis for cancer friend/ DMSO baking soda
In a message dated 4/18/2011 10:20:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aubuchon.da...@gmail.com writes: If it is possible, can someone please tell me about how to get it set up? I am just looking into locally applied treatment options to add to his treatment, since the tumor can now be felt near the surface. Thanks,~David Hi David, I am at present using the DMSO/baking soda application to two possible remaining cancer spots..Check out-- Based on the work of Dr Tullio Simoncini of Rome, Italy, maintaining an alkaline pH of around 8.5 or so in the tumor and vicinity for 3 weeks will kill many types of cancers.Dr. Simoncini uses the lab procedures and protocols for using intravenous sodium bicarbonate as approved by the FDA for cardiac infarctions to treat most cancers. _http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/_ (http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/) _http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/_ (http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/) To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water and add 5mg ( a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb. pH should be between 8.5 and 9. You can find pH strips at fish supply stores and pharmacies, or order on line. Make sure it is for the range of pH you are testing, some are very specific. Dr Simoncini used this to inject directly into the tumor, often under radiographic guidance for deeper tumors. DMSO and Sodium Bicarbonate To use DMSO to deliver the SB into the tumor by topical application: Using a 5ml syringe and measure 4 ml of the Sodium Bicarb solution into a small bottle and add 1ml of DMSO. Always add DMSO to water and never add water to DMSO due to the release of heat.. For all cancers you can just rub this on your chest and it will absorb through your skin and head straight to the tumour. For Lung Cancer you can also use a nebulizer and put a 20ml mix into the nebulizer, use this for 6 days and then stop for 6 days. The recommendation is to do this 4 times and then a scan. *Sodium Bicarbonate is baking soda, do not confuse it with baking powder.
CSCS:.Melatonin shelf life
My bottle of Melatonin tablets shows Manufacture date,but no expiry date,so,why worry if they are being used regularly. Harold
Re: CSBrooks - what doses of Lipo-C were used?
Dear Dorothy, I would not recommend the use of ANY tap water source. There are multiple reasons for this, but one will suffice. To wit: There are just too many possible contaminants present in most tap water sources. And I do not mean just pathogenic ones.There is no way to determine how the many chemical elements, possibly present would affect the end product. e.g. many potentially toxic members of the metal family...and or saltscould easily be encapsulated and delivered DIRECTLY into the INTER-CELLULAR environment of the body..not a very desirable prospect. Be Regards, Brooks. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Good morning Brooks, I'm sorry to barge in on this theme but have a question to do with liposomal VC i.e. in your home-made version, is it necessary to use distilled water over tap water? I just wondered what the difference would be or would it make it less efficacious. Many thanks, dee On 21 Apr 2011, at 00:09, Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear David, We HAVE NOT used liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C as a standalone protocol..in addressing cancer presentations in any experimental mammal evaluations. If I have indicated otherwise, my apologies. As relates to dosages utilized by other, mainstream, researchers (e.g. Dr. Thomas E. Levy, in conjunction with Livon Laboratories).executing a Google-type search engine should yield some useful information. Generally, we have found that a 1/5th Liposomal equivalency (e.g. 5 grams of Liposomal-encapsulated Vitamin C substitued for 25 grams conventional sodium ascorbate) -yields equal...or better... results--than does the conventional sodium ascorbate... and even better against ascorbic acid solutions. The largest dosages...of which we are aware... to have been utilized by researchers is about 40 grams per day-of NON-LIPOSOMAL C. In most cases divided into three to four doses (to maintain acceptable titers within the cardiovascular system.) This would equate to, roughly, 8 grams of Liposomal product.using the ratio stated above. Actually, my fiqures are VERY CONSERVATIVE, as some cases of which we are aware furnished quantitative results of 10 to 1.in favor of the Liposomal modality. One genuine advantage to Liposomal Vit. C is that the bowel tolerance challenge is circumvented. I believe that Dr. Mathias Rath has evaluated the usage of Liposomally-encapsulated Vit. C in recently past evaluations (but am not positive of this). If so, his findings would justify serious considerationas I regard him as one of the few really, leading-edge researchers in this part of the cancer treatment modality arena. My apologies for being unable to supply a more definitive and useful response to your inquiry. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver ionotophoresis for cancer friend/ DMSO baking soda
Hi ZZekelink, About the transdermal bicarb: 1. Is distilled water okay? Or should I get sterile water from a doctor? (actually you can get it from vet supplies online in some states) 2. What do you use for a bottle to mix the solution and the DMSO? 3. Did you learn of this transdermal option from Dr. Simonici? I did not find any info on his site on this, and he did not mention it to me in an email response he sent me either. 4. Is it the DMSO that makes the bicarb go right to the tumor? So this is better than just taking bicarbonate orally right? 5. If the tumor can be felt beneath the abdominal wall, should I rub it right over the tumor, or rub it over the chest? 6. What is to stop me from doing this transdermal bicarb with 20 times the recipe, all over his body, and like 10 times a day? Is it the more the merrier? Thanks, ~David On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:14 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/18/2011 10:20:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aubuchon.da...@gmail.com writes: If it is possible, can someone please tell me about how to get it set up? I am just looking into locally applied treatment options to add to his treatment, since the tumor can now be felt near the surface. Thanks,~David Hi David, I am at present using the DMSO/baking soda application to two possible remaining cancer spots..Check out-- Based on the work of Dr Tullio Simoncini of Rome, Italy, maintaining an alkaline pH of around 8.5 or so in the tumor and vicinity for 3 weeks will kill many types of cancers. Dr. Simoncini uses the lab procedures and protocols for using intravenous sodium bicarbonate as approved by the FDA for cardiac infarctions to treat most cancers. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/ To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water and add 5mg ( a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb. pH should be between 8.5 and 9. You can find pH strips at fish supply stores and pharmacies, or order on line. Make sure it is for the range of pH you are testing, some are very specific. Dr Simoncini used this to inject directly into the tumor, often under radiographic guidance for deeper tumors. DMSO and Sodium Bicarbonate To use DMSO to deliver the SB into the tumor by topical application: Using a 5ml syringe and measure 4 ml of the Sodium Bicarb solution into a small bottle and add 1ml of DMSO. Always add DMSO to water and never add water to DMSO due to the release of heat.. For all cancers you can just rub this on your chest and it will absorb through your skin and head straight to the tumour. For Lung Cancer you can also use a nebulizer and put a 20ml mix into the nebulizer, use this for 6 days and then stop for 6 days. The recommendation is to do this 4 times and then a scan. *Sodium Bicarbonate is baking soda, do not confuse it with baking powder. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver ionotophoresis for cancer friend/ DMSO baking soda
Are your cancer spots internal or external? ~David On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ZZekelink, About the transdermal bicarb: 1. Is distilled water okay? Or should I get sterile water from a doctor? (actually you can get it from vet supplies online in some states) 2. What do you use for a bottle to mix the solution and the DMSO? 3. Did you learn of this transdermal option from Dr. Simonici? I did not find any info on his site on this, and he did not mention it to me in an email response he sent me either. 4. Is it the DMSO that makes the bicarb go right to the tumor? So this is better than just taking bicarbonate orally right? 5. If the tumor can be felt beneath the abdominal wall, should I rub it right over the tumor, or rub it over the chest? 6. What is to stop me from doing this transdermal bicarb with 20 times the recipe, all over his body, and like 10 times a day? Is it the more the merrier? Thanks, ~David On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:14 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/18/2011 10:20:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aubuchon.da...@gmail.com writes: If it is possible, can someone please tell me about how to get it set up? I am just looking into locally applied treatment options to add to his treatment, since the tumor can now be felt near the surface. Thanks,~David Hi David, I am at present using the DMSO/baking soda application to two possible remaining cancer spots..Check out-- Based on the work of Dr Tullio Simoncini of Rome, Italy, maintaining an alkaline pH of around 8.5 or so in the tumor and vicinity for 3 weeks will kill many types of cancers. Dr. Simoncini uses the lab procedures and protocols for using intravenous sodium bicarbonate as approved by the FDA for cardiac infarctions to treat most cancers. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/ To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water and add 5mg ( a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb. pH should be between 8.5 and 9. You can find pH strips at fish supply stores and pharmacies, or order on line. Make sure it is for the range of pH you are testing, some are very specific. Dr Simoncini used this to inject directly into the tumor, often under radiographic guidance for deeper tumors. DMSO and Sodium Bicarbonate To use DMSO to deliver the SB into the tumor by topical application: Using a 5ml syringe and measure 4 ml of the Sodium Bicarb solution into a small bottle and add 1ml of DMSO. Always add DMSO to water and never add water to DMSO due to the release of heat.. For all cancers you can just rub this on your chest and it will absorb through your skin and head straight to the tumour. For Lung Cancer you can also use a nebulizer and put a 20ml mix into the nebulizer, use this for 6 days and then stop for 6 days. The recommendation is to do this 4 times and then a scan. *Sodium Bicarbonate is baking soda, do not confuse it with baking powder. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver ionotophoresis for cancer friend/ DMSO baking soda
And did this give you results? On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:23 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Are your cancer spots internal or external? ~David On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ZZekelink, About the transdermal bicarb: 1. Is distilled water okay? Or should I get sterile water from a doctor? (actually you can get it from vet supplies online in some states) 2. What do you use for a bottle to mix the solution and the DMSO? 3. Did you learn of this transdermal option from Dr. Simonici? I did not find any info on his site on this, and he did not mention it to me in an email response he sent me either. 4. Is it the DMSO that makes the bicarb go right to the tumor? So this is better than just taking bicarbonate orally right? 5. If the tumor can be felt beneath the abdominal wall, should I rub it right over the tumor, or rub it over the chest? 6. What is to stop me from doing this transdermal bicarb with 20 times the recipe, all over his body, and like 10 times a day? Is it the more the merrier? Thanks, ~David On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:14 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/18/2011 10:20:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aubuchon.da...@gmail.com writes: If it is possible, can someone please tell me about how to get it set up? I am just looking into locally applied treatment options to add to his treatment, since the tumor can now be felt near the surface. Thanks,~David Hi David, I am at present using the DMSO/baking soda application to two possible remaining cancer spots..Check out-- Based on the work of Dr Tullio Simoncini of Rome, Italy, maintaining an alkaline pH of around 8.5 or so in the tumor and vicinity for 3 weeks will kill many types of cancers. Dr. Simoncini uses the lab procedures and protocols for using intravenous sodium bicarbonate as approved by the FDA for cardiac infarctions to treat most cancers. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/ To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water and add 5mg ( a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb. pH should be between 8.5 and 9. You can find pH strips at fish supply stores and pharmacies, or order on line. Make sure it is for the range of pH you are testing, some are very specific. Dr Simoncini used this to inject directly into the tumor, often under radiographic guidance for deeper tumors. DMSO and Sodium Bicarbonate To use DMSO to deliver the SB into the tumor by topical application: Using a 5ml syringe and measure 4 ml of the Sodium Bicarb solution into a small bottle and add 1ml of DMSO. Always add DMSO to water and never add water to DMSO due to the release of heat.. For all cancers you can just rub this on your chest and it will absorb through your skin and head straight to the tumour. For Lung Cancer you can also use a nebulizer and put a 20ml mix into the nebulizer, use this for 6 days and then stop for 6 days. The recommendation is to do this 4 times and then a scan. *Sodium Bicarbonate is baking soda, do not confuse it with baking powder. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrooks - what doses of Lipo-C were used?
Thanks so much for your reply Brooks, I should have thought of that of course. regards, dee On 21 Apr 2011, at 19:40, Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Dorothy, I would not recommend the use of ANY tap water source. There are multiple reasons for this, but one will suffice. To wit: There are just too many possible contaminants present in most tap water sources. And I do not mean just pathogenic ones.There is no way to determine how the many chemical elements, possibly present would affect the end product. e.g. many potentially toxic members of the metal family...and or saltscould easily be encapsulated and delivered DIRECTLY into the INTER-CELLULAR environment of the body..not a very desirable prospect. Be Regards, Brooks. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Good morning Brooks, I'm sorry to barge in on this theme but have a question to do with liposomal VC i.e. in your home-made version, is it necessary to use distilled water over tap water? I just wondered what the difference would be or would it make it less efficacious. Many thanks, dee On 21 Apr 2011, at 00:09, Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear David, We HAVE NOT used liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C as a standalone protocol..in addressing cancer presentations in any experimental mammal evaluations. If I have indicated otherwise, my apologies. As relates to dosages utilized by other, mainstream, researchers (e.g. Dr. Thomas E. Levy, in conjunction with Livon Laboratories).executing a Google-type search engine should yield some useful information. Generally, we have found that a 1/5th Liposomal equivalency (e.g. 5 grams of Liposomal-encapsulated Vitamin C substitued for 25 grams conventional sodium ascorbate) -yields equal...or better... results--than does the conventional sodium ascorbate... and even better against ascorbic acid solutions. The largest dosages...of which we are aware... to have been utilized by researchers is about 40 grams per day-of NON-LIPOSOMAL C. In most cases divided into three to four doses (to maintain acceptable titers within the cardiovascular system.) This would equate to, roughly, 8 grams of Liposomal product.using the ratio stated above. Actually, my fiqures are VERY CONSERVATIVE, as some cases of which we are aware furnished quantitative results of 10 to 1.in favor of the Liposomal modality. One genuine advantage to Liposomal Vit. C is that the bowel tolerance challenge is circumvented. I believe that Dr. Mathias Rath has evaluated the usage of Liposomally-encapsulated Vit. C in recently past evaluations (but am not positive of this). If so, his findings would justify serious considerationas I regard him as one of the few really, leading-edge researchers in this part of the cancer treatment modality arena. My apologies for being unable to supply a more definitive and useful response to your inquiry. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDomestic Magnetic Fields
In a recent conversation among our peers, a comment by one;person peaked my interest. The remark related to electrically-generated magnetic fields presenting among common household appliances/devices. I was surprised to hear that the typical hair dryer generates a magnetic field of 17,440 nanotesla (nT) at 60 hz, when the discharge nozzle is held 2 inches from the head (QUITE A COMMON DISTANCE). Since the average household (background) magnetic field is 40 to 50 nT and adverse effects for humans start to appear at about 200nTthis should RED FLAG users of hair dryers. The field strength of a magnet is inversely proportional to the distance from it. Such evidence recommends the user of hand-held hair dryer keep the discharge nozzle no CLOSER THAN 6 TO THE HEAD. We have conducted much research into the benefits of using magnetic devices for human health support.and continue to do so. However, there are certain cautions which should be observedand this seems to one of them. This is especially so when considering that a majority of helpful magnetic devices employ non-oscillating frequencies of less than 10 hz; DC sources or permanent magnets. Household AC power is supplied at 60hz and 110 to 220 volts AC I have one other comment to make regarding household appliances. The vast majority of American families employ the use of a microwave oven. There is, in most cases, a suggested comment by the food companies (included in the Cooking Directions section) which states one should allow the foodstuff to remain in the ovenor to be allowed to sit for two or so minutesbefore consuming. The implication being that such allows an improved heat dispersion throughout the foodstuff. However, a more accurate analysis could be that the food company does this to mitigate against the effects of a possible lawsuit which might be encountered .for a condition caused or aggravated by cellular radiation exposure. Few among the general public are aware that residual microwave frequency radiation DOES NOT vanish instantaneously with the removal of power from the magnetron tube (when power is turned off). Actually, there is a time lapse varying from 2 to, sometimes, 4 minutes BEFORE the radiation actually dissipates from the target foodstuff cell structure. It is quite feasible for someone to extract food from a microwave and ingest it BEFORE the radiation envelop completely dissipates. If you are tempted to disregard this comment as inconsequential, I would remind you that the typical microwave oven manufacturers are allowed to generate exposure levels of around 5000mW/cm2 (thats Milli-watts)and in 1950's, Operation Pandoras Box revealed that exposure levels of 18uW/cm2 (that's MICRO-WATTS) caused the U.S. Embassy staff in Moscow, USSR, to present with the highest level of cancer incidence per head of population---IN THE WORLD. The microwave oven power levels were measured 20 IN FRONT of the microwave window. MORAL; NEVER PLACE YOUR HEAD CLOSE TO THE FRONT OF THE MICROWAVE WINDOW while it is operating. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS:.Melatonin shelf life
Harold MacDonald wrote: My bottle of Melatonin tablets shows Manufacture date,but no expiry date,so,why worry if they are being used regularly. Harold My bottle has an expiry date (several years ago :-). However it seems that a loss of potency happens.No mention of deleterious effects regards hg -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
