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RE: CS>Thank you...

2011-05-11 Thread Neville Munn


Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and maintains 
good circulation.
 
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals 
determination?
 
Information I've read over time suggests a tablespoon per 8 ounces of water for 
immediate use, or a teaspoon for every day consumption {don't know in how much 
water tho}.  Has to be drank in one sitting, and as quick as comfortable for it 
to be paletable.
 
I don't have a need to drink it - yet - but if I did have, or may develop a 
circulatory problem sometime in the future, this is what I intend doing.
 
I'm not into alternatives, herbs, home remedies or supplements and whatever 
else, {outside of silver}, but this one I believe may work, just don't ask me 
why .
 
I have my own belief that EIS may do similar, because the particles are not 
spherical but more irregularly shaped.  This could be argued I spose, and most 
likely will be, but it's my belief.  I'll let you know in another 10 years or 
so, that should be time enough for my body to be well on the way to self 
destruction, considering I've been a smoker for over forty five years.
 
Could be useless info, but thought I'd throw it in the ring anyway Mike.
 
N.
 
> From: mdev...@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:49:29 -0500
> Subject: CS>Thank you...
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
> al. 
> 
> He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
> stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
> the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
> the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
> or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
> recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
> and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
> 
> He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
> initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
> he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
> him to take over much of this relatively soon.
> 
> He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
> incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
> thankfully.
> 
> Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
> recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
> several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
> didn't fix it all.
> 
> Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
> could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
> with us.
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Mike D.

Re: CS>Ultrasonic cleaner trouble

2011-05-11 Thread M. G. Devour

> ... So with those machines it must either be the consistency of the
> lecithin mixture, or the fact that there's nothing in the tank. 

Umm, Richard, what did you mean by "there's nothing in the tank?" 
Aren't you making your product directly in the tank of the machine?

An ultrasonic cleaner does need to be full to the minimum operating 
line with *some* kind of liquid if it's not to damage itself. Running 
it empty or low is not good.

Peace,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CS>Thank you...

2011-05-11 Thread M. G. Devour

Hi everyone,

Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. 
al. 

He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a 
stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with 
the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to 
the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one 
or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to 
recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, 
and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.

He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the 
initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure 
he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect 
him to take over much of this relatively soon.

He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his 
incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, 
thankfully.

Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a 
recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for 
several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly 
didn't fix it all.

Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things 
could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were 
with us.

Peace,

Mike D.


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CS>Tynall cone strength

2011-05-11 Thread Neville Munn


["Little TE means very small particles. Remember that the Tyndall varies 
to the 4th power of the particle size, so if you halve the size, the 
Tyndall goes down by 16:1."]

Marshall, or anyone else if they feel inclined, I'd like to run something past 
you.
 
As ridiculous as this question may seem, I'd still like to hear what you may 
have to say.
 
I've broken my Tyndall cone effect into five catagories...Nil, Faint, 
faint/Good, Good, and Strong.
 
Not being the sharpest knife in the draw regarding mathematics, by using your 
calculation as mentioned here, is it possible to get an approximate {and I 
repeat, an *approximate* or Wild Arse Guess if you like} particle size using 
the strength of laser beam through solution?
 
Eg; Faint may be 'x' particle size, Good may be 'y' particle size etc etc, and 
praps all WAG's as I have indicated.
 
N.

RE: CS>Tyndal Effect help

2011-05-11 Thread Neville Munn


If it's an everday El Cheapo laser, try another laser.
 
I've got a few different lasers {just your ordinary lasers as procurable 
anywhere} and found they are not as reliable as I would have expected.
 
They ALL have one idiosyncracy however - the beam will go from fuzzy to clear 
as the pointer is rotated whilst shining through a solution.
Rotate your wrist and see if there is any difference in the clarity of the beam 
through the liquid.
 
I believe 'collimation' is the key word here.
 
N.
 
> Subject: Fw: CS>Tyndal Effect help
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 19:31:11 +
> 
> Thank you. I should have said usually no TE at all. Even when looking from 
> above in subdue light. I have read that page but it still says I should have 
> a faint TE. I have rarely obtained a faint TE. 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Trem 
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:01:04 
> To: 
> Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Tyndal Effect help
> 
> See http://www.silvergen.com/Tyndall.htm
> 
> Trem
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:34 AM
> Subject: CS>Tyndal Effect help
> 
> 
> > Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I 
> > use a silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on a 
> > hanna meter. After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes 
> > like CS but I have little to no TE.
> >>From my readings I understand the TE reflects bigger particles and the 
> >>meter measures the ions. The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox 
> >>80-85/20-15% of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it just 
> >>mean I am producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is my 
> >>stuff still effective with only ions?
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CS>Ultrasonic cleaner trouble

2011-05-11 Thread Richard Pells

Thanks for the comments. A subscriber has kindly contacted me and
recommended the larger Harbor Freight machine. He has been using this model
for a year now and runs it at 2 x 480 seconds with an hour interval between.
Dick did mention that he'd had two smaller models burn out prior to this.
The last model I bought was a James 2200m (professional) with the transducer
welded to the underside of the tank. The timer had a maximum run time of 60
mins, I only ran it for just over 15 mins. So with those machines it must
either be the consistency of the lecithin mixture, or the fact that there's
nothing in the tank. I did get to speak with James of James Products and he
didn't seem to think there would be a problem running them in this way and
assured me that they sell thousands world wide with no problems. Thanks for
the advice about looking on Ebay, there's a couple I've added to my watch
list, but if the model Dick recommends is available here and I think I've
found the same model on Amazon.co.uk, I'll go for that as it's also a bit of
a bargain at £30!

Thanks again!
Richard

Re: CS>Tyndal Effect help

2011-05-11 Thread Marshall

On 5/11/2011 2:34 PM, anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net wrote:

Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I use a
silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on a hanna
meter. After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes like CS but
I have little to no TE.
From my readings I understand the TE reflects bigger particles and the meter
measures the ions. The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox 80-85/20-15%
of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it just mean I am
producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is my stuff still
effective with only ions?
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Little TE means very small particles. Remember that the Tyndall varies
to the 4th power of the particle size, so if you halve the size, the
Tyndall goes down by 16:1.

Marshall

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Re: CS>Tyndal Effect help

2011-05-11 Thread Trem

Weak Tyndall is indicative of small particles.  So, if your meter tells you 
there is ionic silver in the water it will certainly have some colloidal 
silver.  You've got good product.  Take it into a dark room and check again.


Trem


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: Fw: CS>Tyndal Effect help


Thank you. I should have said usually no TE at all. Even when looking from 
above in subdue light.  I have read that page but it still says I should 
have a faint TE. I have rarely obtained a faint TE.

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

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From: Trem 
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:01:04
To: 
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Tyndal Effect help

See http://www.silvergen.com/Tyndall.htm

Trem


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From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: CS>Tyndal Effect help



Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I
use a silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on 
a

hanna meter.  After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes
like CS but I have little to no TE.

From my readings I understand the TE reflects  bigger particles and the
meter measures the ions.  The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox
80-85/20-15% of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it 
just

mean I am producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is  my
stuff still effective with only ions?







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Fw: CS>Tyndal Effect help

2011-05-11 Thread anthony . aquifer

Thank you. I should have said usually no TE at all. Even when looking from 
above in subdue light.  I have read that page but it still says I should have a 
faint TE. I have rarely obtained a faint TE. 
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-Original Message-
From: Trem 
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:01:04 
To: 
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Tyndal Effect help

See http://www.silvergen.com/Tyndall.htm

Trem


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From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: CS>Tyndal Effect help


> Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I 
> use a silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on a 
> hanna meter.  After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes 
> like CS but I have little to no TE.
>>From my readings I understand the TE reflects  bigger particles and the 
>>meter measures the ions.  The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox 
>>80-85/20-15% of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it just 
>>mean I am producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is  my 
>>stuff still effective with only ions?
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RE: CS>Tyndal Effect help

2011-05-11 Thread

Anthony,

Faint Tyndall effect from a laser pointer generally is indicative of smaller
particle sizes, which is good.  Usually slower brewing times at low
electrode current produces smaller particles.  I would say you have made an
effective batch which is a mix of small particles and ions.  The vote is
still out on what ratio of ions and particles is "best" - there is probably
a wide range that produces good results.
Steve Y.  


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From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Tyndal Effect help

Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I
use a silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on a
hanna meter.  After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes
like CS but I have little to no TE.  
>From my readings I understand the TE reflects  bigger particles and the
meter measures the ions.  The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox
80-85/20-15% of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it just
mean I am producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is  my
stuff still effective with only ions?
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Re: CS>Tyndal Effect help

2011-05-11 Thread Trem

See http://www.silvergen.com/Tyndall.htm

Trem

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From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: CS>Tyndal Effect help

Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I 
use a silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on a 
hanna meter.  After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes 
like CS but I have little to no TE.
From my readings I understand the TE reflects  bigger particles and the 
meter measures the ions.  The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox 
80-85/20-15% of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it just 
mean I am producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is  my 
stuff still effective with only ions?
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CS>Tyndal Effect help

2011-05-11 Thread anthony . aquifer

Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I use a 
silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on a hanna 
meter.  After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes like CS but 
I have little to no TE.  
From my readings I understand the TE reflects  bigger particles and the meter 
measures the ions.  The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox 80-85/20-15% 
of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it just mean I am 
producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is  my stuff still 
effective with only ions?
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