RE: CSNeed some iodine info please...
I would agree with that. It’s not an accurate test. I take 50mg of Lugol’s every day. I would definitely suggest joining the iodine group on Yahoo. Stephanie, the group owner works closely with Dr Brownstone. Donna From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... I have seen people that say this test is useless and doesn't tell you anything. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld _ From: Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:33:25 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com ReplyTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNeed some iodine info please... Harold, don't you mean that if the spot had been absorbed by morning, then you DIDN'T need it? I recently had an iodine patch test done and you could still see it faintly in the a.m. As a result, I was told I did not need it. Judy Harnett - Original Message - From: Harold mailto:har...@telus.net To: zzekel...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CS Need some iodine info please... I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now as this was recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87 years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by morning ,the n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated Iodine be added to salt. Harold
Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
isn't 50mgs rather a lot? Just asking. dee On 11 Dec 2011, at 09:42, Donna M Lewis wrote: I would agree with that. It’s not an accurate test. I take 50mg of Lugol’s every day. I would definitely suggest joining the iodine group on Yahoo. Stephanie, the group owner works closely with Dr Brownstone. Donna From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... I have seen people that say this test is useless and doesn't tell you anything. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld From: Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:33:25 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com ReplyTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNeed some iodine info please... Harold, don't you mean that if the spot had been absorbed by morning, then you DIDN'T need it? I recently had an iodine patch test done and you could still see it faintly in the a.m. As a result, I was told I did not need it. Judy Harnett - Original Message - From: Harold To: zzekel...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CS Need some iodine info please... I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now as this was recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87 years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by morning ,the n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated Iodine be added to salt. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNeed expert advice ASAP-now STERILE EIS?
As I understand it EIS is effective against about 600 microbes. That is a lot but to my mind is not *all*. PT -Original Message- From: Gayla Roberts [mailto:aera...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed expert advice ASAP-now STERILE EIS? Isn't EIS sterile by definition?' Gayla - Original Message - From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: RE: CSNeed expert advice ASAP I agree with Marshall. I would think a sterile bandage soaked in sterile EIS as packing and then covered with another sterile bandage and taped on would do the trick. I would imagine you can also find a sterile barrier so the EIS doesn't evaporate. That might take the place of the second bandage. Obviously you need to use your judgment as only you are there with her. Good luck. PT -Original Message- From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed expert advice ASAP According to Bob Becker's book The Body Electric EIS, or silver ions are great for promoting healing without scarring. Personally I would keep it wet with EIS as much as possible, and give it time to heal. That will of course also prevent infection. Marshall On 12/9/2011 2:58 PM, rans...@atmc.net wrote: To everyone who knows about our challenging past 2 years and 9 months since Glenda found the lump in her breast, we send this out and ask for any expert advice on what to do when a large tumor is expelled from the body. Please don't take this wrong, but please don't inundate me with well-meant cancer advice right now. It looks like we've won or are very well on our way to winning now. What we are apparently facing now is the aftermath- it looks like the tumor is dead or quickly dying and is about to be expelled. That is bound to leave a hole and we need to know what to do next. But first- here's what happened this morning... Just to backtrack a bit, we forced the tumor to the surface first with inhaled hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized saline that was treated with a NightHawk Water Stone to make radon and ozone, then we combined that 50-50 with hydrogen peroxide. The real kicker was Iodine Cataphoresis. That really forced it to open up and stay open and drain out. I have been updating my document about IC and if anyone has the old one, you should ask me for the updated version. Anyone else who wants it, just ask but do so directly to me at ransley at atmc dot net. Since this thing really opened up, we kept it covered during the workday with zinc oxide ointment on bandages, then we applied a poultice at night of green clay and charcoal (there have been numerous other poultices used, but this one worked best with an open draining ulcer). We kept seeing a white surface inside the opening. We thought that was remnants of zinc oxide or flesh exposed to air. Most people who have read much about alternative medicine have run across the idea in the last few years that a tumor is white. Apparently, that is what we were looking at all along and didn't know it until this morning. All of a sudden, after she took a shower and removed the clay and charcoal, this thing was a dull yellowish color and looked shriveled and dry. All of a sudden, there was no drainage or bleeding. She called to me- although not overtly in a commanding way, but any man who has been long married knows that there is something in that call that says Husband Come Here Now. She said- what we've been seeing is the tumor. As she made a twisting move, I suddenly saw the flesh at the edge of the hole make a gap as it separated from the tumor. First time that's ever happened and it didn't bleed. I immediately knew that meant that flesh and tumor were disengaging from each other. The hole is presently the size of a nickel (US 5 cent coin) and is fairly circular. This thing is going to come out and pretty soon I think. What we need to know now is... If it doesn't come out right away all in one piece, what kind of external treatment might dissolve it? No matter if it comes out in one piece, pieces or if we dissolve it and it oozes out, there's going to be a cavity. I know enough to know not to prematurely speed the closing of that cavity, that it must heal from the inside out. What treatments would hasten that process without engendering infection? We've avoided infection nicely so far. Lastly- whatever suggestions we get must be cheap and simple. Not to bore anyone with this, but we're hanging on by our financial teeth right now. Not to worry, we never got much above our raising anyway and that raising was to do the best you can with what you got. As the joke goes, we've done so much for so long with so little that we're
RE: CSNeed some iodine info please...
It's the amount that Dr Brownstone recommends and I have had no adverse effects from it so far. Donna -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... isn't 50mgs rather a lot? Just asking. dee On 11 Dec 2011, at 09:42, Donna M Lewis wrote: I would agree with that. It's not an accurate test. I take 50mg of Lugol's every day. I would definitely suggest joining the iodine group on Yahoo. Stephanie, the group owner works closely with Dr Brownstone. Donna From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... I have seen people that say this test is useless and doesn't tell you anything. Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless handheld From: Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:33:25 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com ReplyTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNeed some iodine info please... Harold, don't you mean that if the spot had been absorbed by morning, then you DIDN'T need it? I recently had an iodine patch test done and you could still see it faintly in the a.m. As a result, I was told I did not need it. Judy Harnett - Original Message - From: Harold To: zzekel...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CS Need some iodine info please... I have been using this mix; Lugols '2% for quite awhile now as this was recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87 years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by morning ,the n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov't mandated Iodine be added to salt. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed expert advice ASAP-now STERILE EIS?
I read somewhere that there was a microbe that actually lived on, and also used silver with its biological process. There are microbes that live in ammonia. I dont think we have to worry to much about them though, as what we consider habitable , they probably consider toxic. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:37:06 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSNeed expert advice ASAP-now STERILE EIS? As I understand it EIS is effective against about 600 microbes. That is a lot but to my mind is not *all*. PT -Original Message- From: Gayla Roberts [mailto:aera...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed expert advice ASAP-now STERILE EIS? Isn't EIS sterile by definition?' Gayla - Original Message - From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: RE: CSNeed expert advice ASAP I agree with Marshall. I would think a sterile bandage soaked in sterile EIS as packing and then covered with another sterile bandage and taped on would do the trick. I would imagine you can also find a sterile barrier so the EIS doesn't evaporate. That might take the place of the second bandage. Obviously you need to use your judgment as only you are there with her. Good luck. PT -Original Message- From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed expert advice ASAP According to Bob Becker's book The Body Electric EIS, or silver ions are great for promoting healing without scarring. Personally I would keep it wet with EIS as much as possible, and give it time to heal. That will of course also prevent infection. Marshall On 12/9/2011 2:58 PM, rans...@atmc.net wrote: To everyone who knows about our challenging past 2 years and 9 months since Glenda found the lump in her breast, we send this out and ask for any expert advice on what to do when a large tumor is expelled from the body. Please don't take this wrong, but please don't inundate me with well-meant cancer advice right now. It looks like we've won or are very well on our way to winning now. What we are apparently facing now is the aftermath- it looks like the tumor is dead or quickly dying and is about to be expelled. That is bound to leave a hole and we need to know what to do next. But first- here's what happened this morning... Just to backtrack a bit, we forced the tumor to the surface first with inhaled hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized saline that was treated with a NightHawk Water Stone to make radon and ozone, then we combined that 50-50 with hydrogen peroxide. The real kicker was Iodine Cataphoresis. That really forced it to open up and stay open and drain out. I have been updating my document about IC and if anyone has the old one, you should ask me for the updated version. Anyone else who wants it, just ask but do so directly to me at ransley at atmc dot net. Since this thing really opened up, we kept it covered during the workday with zinc oxide ointment on bandages, then we applied a poultice at night of green clay and charcoal (there have been numerous other poultices used, but this one worked best with an open draining ulcer). We kept seeing a white surface inside the opening. We thought that was remnants of zinc oxide or flesh exposed to air. Most people who have read much about alternative medicine have run across the idea in the last few years that a tumor is white. Apparently, that is what we were looking at all along and didn't know it until this morning. All of a sudden, after she took a shower and removed the clay and charcoal, this thing was a dull yellowish color and looked shriveled and dry. All of a sudden, there was no drainage or bleeding. She called to me- although not overtly in a commanding way, but any man who has been long married knows that there is something in that call that says Husband Come Here Now. She said- what we've been seeing is the tumor. As she made a twisting move, I suddenly saw the flesh at the edge of the hole make a gap as it separated from the tumor. First time that's ever happened and it didn't bleed. I immediately knew that meant that flesh and tumor were disengaging from each other. The hole is presently the size of a nickel (US 5 cent coin) and is fairly circular. This thing is going to come out and pretty soon I think. What we need to know now is... If it doesn't come out right away all in one piece, what kind of external treatment might dissolve it? No matter if it comes out in one piece, pieces or if we dissolve it and it oozes out, there's going to be a cavity. I know enough to know not to
Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
If you believe mainstream allopathic. I second joining the yahoo iodine group. Lots of great info. There is also a lot of great pages all over the net. I have been supplementing 150mgs and more for about 8 months. Just you just have to learn the difference between iodine and potassium iodide and hoe much of each you can take. Also the companion nutrients are a must when taking higher doses for long periods. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:40:58 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... isn't 50mgs rather a lot? Just asking. dee On 11 Dec 2011, at 09:42, Donna M Lewis wrote: I would agree with that. It’s not an accurate test. I take 50mg of Lugol’s every day. I would definitely suggest joining the iodine group on Yahoo. Stephanie, the group owner works closely with Dr Brownstone. Donna From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... I have seen people that say this test is useless and doesn't tell you anything. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld From: Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:33:25 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com ReplyTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNeed some iodine info please... Harold, don't you mean that if the spot had been absorbed by morning, then you DIDN'T need it? I recently had an iodine patch test done and you could still see it faintly in the a.m. As a result, I was told I did not need it. Judy Harnett - Original Message - From: Harold To: zzekel...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CS Need some iodine info please... I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now as this was recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87 years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by morning ,the n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated Iodine be added to salt. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis
Lena, have you tried resveratrol for Lymes. If you can find the invasive, Japanese Knotweed, dig up the roots.. it contains more resveratrol than any plant. I read about it in the Invasive Plant Medicine book. Dry the roots and scrape them into a spoon of honey or something like that, or put them in vegecaps and swallow. Here's a youtube video about it featuring herbalist Timothy Scott who had Lyme disease. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3N0biKrjQ Also check out Steven Buhner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asw0_DaA85Yfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL0449CB6E7E7D9E4A A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a nightshade sensitivity and find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (different form regular Alka-Seltzer) would help neutralize the acidity and the effects of nightshades and citrus and ease pain within a half hour. Body ph is very important with auto-immune and inflammatory diseases. I have Lyme disease. (but many years ago was misdiagnosed with RA) Be well, Léna On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, PTFerrance wrote: My Aunt had it and when she took all offending foods out of her diet the symptoms went away. When she would slip up and eat something she shouldn’t she would know because it would flare up. For her nightshades and dairy were the worst. PT From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a very good friend that has rhumatoid arthritis, and I was wondering if anyone on the llist has had/or does have it and what treatment worked for you? Thanks, Kathy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4584 - Release Date: 10/30/11
Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis
Nice video on Japanese Knotweed. Cheap source of resveratrol. Dan On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote: Lena, have you tried resveratrol for Lymes. If you can find the invasive, Japanese Knotweed, dig up the roots.. it contains more resveratrol than any plant. I read about it in the Invasive Plant Medicine book. Dry the roots and scrape them into a spoon of honey or something like that, or put them in vegecaps and swallow. Here's a youtube video about it featuring herbalist Timothy Scott who had Lyme disease. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3N0biKrjQ Also check out Steven Buhner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asw0_DaA85Yfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL0449CB6E7E7D9E4A A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a nightshade sensitivity and find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (different form regular Alka-Seltzer) would help neutralize the acidity and the effects of nightshades and citrus and ease pain within a half hour. Body ph is very important with auto-immune and inflammatory diseases. I have Lyme disease. (but many years ago was misdiagnosed with RA) Be well, Léna On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, PTFerrance wrote: My Aunt had it and when she took all offending foods out of her diet the symptoms went away. When she would slip up and eat something she shouldn’t she would know because it would flare up. For her nightshades and dairy were the worst. PT From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a very good friend that has rhumatoid arthritis, and I was wondering if anyone on the llist has had/or does have it and what treatment worked for you? Thanks, Kathy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4584 - Release Date: 10/30/11 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis
Thanks Sunny, I'll check it out, although i know in the past i've had a compound with japanese knotweed. With a 45 year case of LymeCo., the many co-infections require quite a juggling act, but i'm getting well: about 90%. :) On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Sunny wrote: Lena, have you tried resveratrol for Lymes. If you can find the invasive, Japanese Knotweed, dig up the roots.. it contains more resveratrol than any plant. I read about it in the Invasive Plant Medicine book. Dry the roots and scrape them into a spoon of honey or something like that, or put them in vegecaps and swallow. Here's a youtube video about it featuring herbalist Timothy Scott who had Lyme disease. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3N0biKrjQ Also check out Steven Buhner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asw0_DaA85Yfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL0449CB6E7E7D9E4A A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a nightshade sensitivity and find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (different form regular Alka-Seltzer) would help neutralize the acidity and the effects of nightshades and citrus and ease pain within a half hour. Body ph is very important with auto-immune and inflammatory diseases. I have Lyme disease. (but many years ago was misdiagnosed with RA) Be well, Léna On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, PTFerrance wrote: My Aunt had it and when she took all offending foods out of her diet the symptoms went away. When she would slip up and eat something she shouldn’t she would know because it would flare up. For her nightshades and dairy were the worst. PT From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a very good friend that has rhumatoid arthritis, and I was wondering if anyone on the llist has had/or does have it and what treatment worked for you? Thanks, Kathy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4584 - Release Date: 10/30/11
Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
Anthony.. What brand do you take and the companion supplements? Thanks.. Lola On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM, anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net wrote: If you believe mainstream allopathic. I second joining the yahoo iodine group. Lots of great info. There is also a lot of great pages all over the net. I have been supplementing 150mgs and more for about 8 months. Just you just have to learn the difference between iodine and potassium iodide and hoe much of each you can take. Also the companion nutrients are a must when taking higher doses for long periods. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:40:58 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... isn't 50mgs rather a lot? Just asking. dee On 11 Dec 2011, at 09:42, Donna M Lewis wrote: I would agree with that. It’s not an accurate test. I take 50mg of Lugol’s every day. I would definitely suggest joining the iodine group on Yahoo. Stephanie, the group owner works closely with Dr Brownstone. Donna From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... I have seen people that say this test is useless and doesn't tell you anything. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld From: Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:33:25 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com ReplyTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNeed some iodine info please... Harold, don't you mean that if the spot had been absorbed by morning, then you DIDN'T need it? I recently had an iodine patch test done and you could still see it faintly in the a.m. As a result, I was told I did not need it. Judy Harnett - Original Message - From: Harold To: zzekel...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CS Need some iodine info please... I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now as this was recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87 years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by morning ,the n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated Iodine be added to salt. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
I make my own. I have bought j.crows before. Companions Vit C 2-3g
Magnesium400-800mg, selenium200mcg , sea salt1/4 teaspoon a day. Don't take the
Vit C with in an hour of the iodine.
Check out the yahoo iodine group. It has all the info.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
-Original Message-
From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:48:53
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
Anthony.. What brand do you take and the companion supplements? Thanks.. Lola
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM, anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net wrote:
If you believe mainstream allopathic. I second joining the yahoo iodine
group. Lots of great info. There is also a lot of great pages all over the
net. I have been supplementing 150mgs and more for about 8 months. Just you
just have to learn the difference between iodine and potassium iodide and hoe
much of each you can take. Also the companion nutrients are a must when
taking higher doses for long periods.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:40:58
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
isn't 50mgs rather a lot? Just asking. dee
On 11 Dec 2011, at 09:42, Donna M Lewis wrote:
I would agree with that. It’s not an accurate test. I take 50mg of Lugol’s
every day. I would definitely suggest joining the iodine group on Yahoo.
Stephanie, the group owner works closely with Dr Brownstone.
Donna
From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
I have seen people that say this test is useless and doesn't tell you
anything.
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From: Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:33:25 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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Subject: CSNeed some iodine info please...
Harold, don't you mean that if the spot had been absorbed by morning, then
you DIDN'T need it? I recently had an iodine patch test done and you could
still see it faintly in the a.m. As a result, I was told I did not need it.
Judy Harnett
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From: Harold
To: zzekel...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS Need some iodine info please...
I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now as this was
recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87
years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice
many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a
quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by
morning ,the
n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated
Iodine be added to salt.
Harold
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Re: CSNeed expert advice ASAP
I believe that if you are able to contact Ingrid Naiman, who has a website, she might be able to offer very concrete advice. Her book about cancer salves has photos of tumor expulsion from a female breast, and the healing process. Greg or Kathryn Caton in Equador, with altcancer.com, might also have suggestions or links to useful facts. Based on my reading -- I am a layman with no expertise and offering no advice -- the consensus is that once expulsion has begin it will continue until the mass is ejected, and that keeping the area clean and covered with sterile gauze is sufficient. That said, please keep in mind that no one on the Silver List can do what a licensed medical practitioner who is amenable to alternative therapies can do. The contact persons above might be able to direct you to some of those persons. Prescription pain relief alone might be a Godsend. On 2011/12/10, at 4:58, rans...@atmc.net rans...@atmc.net wrote: To everyone who knows about our challenging past 2 years and 9 months since Glenda found the lump in her breast, we send this out and ask for any expert advice on what to do when a large tumor is expelled from the body. Please don't take this wrong, but please don't inundate me with well-meant cancer advice right now. It looks like we've won or are very well on our way to winning now. What we are apparently facing now is the aftermath- it looks like the tumor is dead or quickly dying and is about to be expelled. That is bound to leave a hole and we need to know what to do next. But first- here's what happened this morning... Just to backtrack a bit, we forced the tumor to the surface first with inhaled hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized saline that was treated with a NightHawk Water Stone to make radon and ozone, then we combined that 50-50 with hydrogen peroxide. The real kicker was Iodine Cataphoresis. That really forced it to open up and stay open and drain out. I have been updating my document about IC and if anyone has the old one, you should ask me for the updated version. Anyone else who wants it, just ask but do so directly to me at ransley at atmc dot net. Since this thing really opened up, we kept it covered during the workday with zinc oxide ointment on bandages, then we applied a poultice at night of green clay and charcoal (there have been numerous other poultices used, but this one worked best with an open draining ulcer). We kept seeing a white surface inside the opening. We thought that was remnants of zinc oxide or flesh exposed to air. Most people who have read much about alternative medicine have run across the idea in the last few years that a tumor is white. Apparently, that is what we were looking at all along and didn't know it until this morning. All of a sudden, after she took a shower and removed the clay and charcoal, this thing was a dull yellowish color and looked shriveled and dry. All of a sudden, there was no drainage or bleeding. She called to me- although not overtly in a commanding way, but any man who has been long married knows that there is something in that call that says Husband Come Here Now. She said- what we've been seeing is the tumor. As she made a twisting move, I suddenly saw the flesh at the edge of the hole make a gap as it separated from the tumor. First time that's ever happened and it didn't bleed. I immediately knew that meant that flesh and tumor were disengaging from each other. The hole is presently the size of a nickel (US 5 cent coin) and is fairly circular. This thing is going to come out and pretty soon I think. What we need to know now is... If it doesn't come out right away all in one piece, what kind of external treatment might dissolve it? No matter if it comes out in one piece, pieces or if we dissolve it and it oozes out, there's going to be a cavity. I know enough to know not to prematurely speed the closing of that cavity, that it must heal from the inside out. What treatments would hasten that process without engendering infection? We've avoided infection nicely so far. Lastly- whatever suggestions we get must be cheap and simple. Not to bore anyone with this, but we're hanging on by our financial teeth right now. Not to worry, we never got much above our raising anyway and that raising was to do the best you can with what you got. As the joke goes, we've done so much for so long with so little that we're now qualified to do anything with nothing ;) Thanks for all the help so far and thanks in advance for any more. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:
Re: CSNeed some iodine info please...
Thank you, Anthony, especially for answering so quickly. Lola On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:12 PM, anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net wrote: I make my own. I have bought j.crows before. Companions Vit C 2-3g Magnesium400-800mg, selenium200mcg , sea salt1/4 teaspoon a day. Don't take the Vit C with in an hour of the iodine. Check out the yahoo iodine group. It has all the info. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:48:53 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... Anthony.. What brand do you take and the companion supplements? Thanks.. Lola On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM, anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net wrote: If you believe mainstream allopathic. I second joining the yahoo iodine group. Lots of great info. There is also a lot of great pages all over the net. I have been supplementing 150mgs and more for about 8 months. Just you just have to learn the difference between iodine and potassium iodide and hoe much of each you can take. Also the companion nutrients are a must when taking higher doses for long periods. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:40:58 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... isn't 50mgs rather a lot? Just asking. dee On 11 Dec 2011, at 09:42, Donna M Lewis wrote: I would agree with that. It’s not an accurate test. I take 50mg of Lugol’s every day. I would definitely suggest joining the iodine group on Yahoo. Stephanie, the group owner works closely with Dr Brownstone. Donna From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed some iodine info please... I have seen people that say this test is useless and doesn't tell you anything. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld From: Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:33:25 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com ReplyTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNeed some iodine info please... Harold, don't you mean that if the spot had been absorbed by morning, then you DIDN'T need it? I recently had an iodine patch test done and you could still see it faintly in the a.m. As a result, I was told I did not need it. Judy Harnett - Original Message - From: Harold To: zzekel...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: CS Need some iodine info please... I have been using this mix; “Lugols ’2% for quite awhile now as this was recommended to gradually build up a low/non existent level.I am 155 lbs 87 years old.I take 3 to 4 drops daily,no problem so far.It was common practice many years ago [how does 75 grab ya ?],to paint a spot about the size of a quarter on your tummy in the evening and if the spot had been absorbed by morning ,the n you needed it.Goiter was fairly common then until the Gov’t mandated Iodine be added to salt. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed expert advice ASAP
I know this is bizarre, but when I looked up Ingrid's site, the first thing that come into my head was she looks like Budwig. David On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I believe that if you are able to contact Ingrid Naiman, who has a website, she might be able to offer very concrete advice. Her book about cancer salves has photos of tumor expulsion from a female breast, and the healing process. Greg or Kathryn Caton in Equador, with altcancer.com, might also have suggestions or links to useful facts. Based on my reading -- I am a layman with no expertise and offering no advice -- the consensus is that once expulsion has begin it will continue until the mass is ejected, and that keeping the area clean and covered with sterile gauze is sufficient. That said, please keep in mind that no one on the Silver List can do what a licensed medical practitioner who is amenable to alternative therapies can do. The contact persons above might be able to direct you to some of those persons. Prescription pain relief alone might be a Godsend. On 2011/12/10, at 4:58, rans...@atmc.net rans...@atmc.net wrote: To everyone who knows about our challenging past 2 years and 9 months since Glenda found the lump in her breast, we send this out and ask for any expert advice on what to do when a large tumor is expelled from the body. Please don't take this wrong, but please don't inundate me with well-meant cancer advice right now. It looks like we've won or are very well on our way to winning now. What we are apparently facing now is the aftermath- it looks like the tumor is dead or quickly dying and is about to be expelled. That is bound to leave a hole and we need to know what to do next. But first- here's what happened this morning... Just to backtrack a bit, we forced the tumor to the surface first with inhaled hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized saline that was treated with a NightHawk Water Stone to make radon and ozone, then we combined that 50-50 with hydrogen peroxide. The real kicker was Iodine Cataphoresis. That really forced it to open up and stay open and drain out. I have been updating my document about IC and if anyone has the old one, you should ask me for the updated version. Anyone else who wants it, just ask but do so directly to me at ransley at atmc dot net. Since this thing really opened up, we kept it covered during the workday with zinc oxide ointment on bandages, then we applied a poultice at night of green clay and charcoal (there have been numerous other poultices used, but this one worked best with an open draining ulcer). We kept seeing a white surface inside the opening. We thought that was remnants of zinc oxide or flesh exposed to air. Most people who have read much about alternative medicine have run across the idea in the last few years that a tumor is white. Apparently, that is what we were looking at all along and didn't know it until this morning. All of a sudden, after she took a shower and removed the clay and charcoal, this thing was a dull yellowish color and looked shriveled and dry. All of a sudden, there was no drainage or bleeding. She called to me- although not overtly in a commanding way, but any man who has been long married knows that there is something in that call that says Husband Come Here Now. She said- what we've been seeing is the tumor. As she made a twisting move, I suddenly saw the flesh at the edge of the hole make a gap as it separated from the tumor. First time that's ever happened and it didn't bleed. I immediately knew that meant that flesh and tumor were disengaging from each other. The hole is presently the size of a nickel (US 5 cent coin) and is fairly circular. This thing is going to come out and pretty soon I think. What we need to know now is... If it doesn't come out right away all in one piece, what kind of external treatment might dissolve it? No matter if it comes out in one piece, pieces or if we dissolve it and it oozes out, there's going to be a cavity. I know enough to know not to prematurely speed the closing of that cavity, that it must heal from the inside out. What treatments would hasten that process without engendering infection? We've avoided infection nicely so far. Lastly- whatever suggestions we get must be cheap and simple. Not to bore anyone with this, but we're hanging on by our financial teeth right now. Not to worry, we never got much above our raising anyway and that raising was to do the best you can with what you got. As the joke goes, we've done so much for so long with so little that we're now qualified to do anything with nothing ;) Thanks for all the help so far and thanks in advance for any more. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a
