I read somewhere that there was a microbe that actually lived on, and also used 
silver with its biological process.  There are microbes that live in ammonia. I 
dont think we have to worry to much about them though, as what we consider 
habitable , they probably consider toxic.  
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From: "PTFerrance" <ptf2...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:37:06 
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Need expert advice ASAP-now STERILE EIS?

As I understand it EIS is effective against about 600 microbes.  That is a
lot but to my mind is not *all*.
PT

-----Original Message-----
From: Gayla Roberts [mailto:aera...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Need expert advice ASAP-now STERILE EIS?

Isn't EIS sterile by definition?'
Gayla
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PTFerrance" <ptf2...@bellsouth.net>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Need expert advice ASAP


>I agree with Marshall.  I would think a sterile bandage soaked in sterile
> EIS as packing and then covered with another sterile bandage and taped on
> would do the trick.  I would imagine you can also find a sterile barrier 
> so
> the EIS doesn't evaporate.  That might take the place of the second 
> bandage.
> Obviously you need to use your judgment as only you are there with her.
> Good luck.
> PT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:15 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Need expert advice ASAP
>
> According to Bob Becker's book "The Body Electric" EIS, or silver ions
> are great for promoting healing without scarring. Personally I would
> keep it wet with EIS as much as possible, and give it time to heal. That
> will of course also prevent infection.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 12/9/2011 2:58 PM, rans...@atmc.net wrote:
>>
>> To everyone who knows about our challenging past 2 years and 9 months
> since
>> Glenda found the lump in her breast, we send this out and ask for any
> expert
>> advice on what to do when a large tumor is expelled from the body.
>>
>> Please don't take this wrong, but please don't inundate me with 
>> well-meant
>> cancer advice right now. It looks like we've won or are very well on our
> way
>> to winning now. What we are apparently facing now is the aftermath- it
> looks
>> like the tumor is dead or quickly dying and is about to be expelled. That
> is
>> bound to leave a hole and we need to know what to do next.
>>
>> But first- here's what happened this morning...
>>
>> Just to backtrack a bit, we forced the tumor to the surface first with
>> inhaled hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized hydrogen peroxide, then
> with
>> nebulized saline that was treated with a NightHawk Water Stone to make
> radon
>> and ozone, then we combined that 50-50 with hydrogen peroxide. The real
>> kicker was Iodine Cataphoresis. That really forced it to open up and stay
>> open and drain out. I have been updating my document about IC and if
> anyone
>> has the old one, you should ask me for the updated version. Anyone else
> who
>> wants it, just ask but do so directly to me at ransley at atmc dot net.
>>
>> Since this thing really opened up, we kept it covered during the workday
>> with zinc oxide ointment on bandages, then we applied a poultice at night
> of
>> green clay and charcoal (there have been numerous other poultices used,
> but
>> this one worked best with an open draining ulcer).
>>
>> We kept seeing a white surface inside the opening.  We thought that was
>> remnants of zinc oxide or flesh exposed to air. Most people who have read
>> much about alternative medicine have run across the idea in the last few
>> years that a tumor is white. Apparently, that is what we were looking at
> all
>> along and didn't know it until this morning. All of a sudden, after she
> took
>> a shower and removed the clay and charcoal, this thing was a dull
> yellowish
>> color and looked shriveled and dry. All of a sudden, there was no 
>> drainage
>> or bleeding. She called to me- although not overtly in a commanding way,
> but
>> any man who has been long married knows that there is something in that
> call
>> that says Husband Come Here Now.
>>
>> She said- "what we've been seeing is the tumor". As she made a twisting
>> move, I suddenly saw the flesh at the edge of the hole make a gap as it
>> separated from the tumor. First time that's ever happened and it didn't
>> bleed. I immediately knew that meant that flesh and tumor were 
>> disengaging
>> from each other.
>>
>> The hole is presently the size of a nickel (US 5 cent coin) and is fairly
>> circular.
>>
>> This thing is going to come out and pretty soon I think. What we need to
>> know now is...
>>
>> If it doesn't come out right away all in one piece, what kind of external
>> treatment might dissolve it?
>>
>> No matter if it comes out in one piece, pieces or if we dissolve it and 
>> it
>> oozes out, there's going to be a cavity. I know enough to know not to
>> prematurely speed the closing of that cavity, that it must heal from the
>> inside out. What treatments would hasten that process without engendering
>> infection? We've avoided infection nicely so far.
>>
>> Lastly- whatever suggestions we get must be cheap and simple. Not to bore
>> anyone with this, but we're hanging on by our financial teeth right now.
> Not
>> to worry, we never got much above our raising anyway and that raising was
> to
>> do the best you can with what you got. As the joke goes,  we've done so
> much
>> for so long with so little that we're now qualified to do anything with
>> nothing ;>)
>>
>> Thanks for all the help so far and thanks in advance for any more.
>>
>> DaddyBob
>>
>>
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