Re: CSarthritis CMO mussels with green lips

2012-04-17 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
The man who made the CMO did stop making it.  I tried getting some and
couldn't.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
N also ask DB where he got his stuff - tho they also may have stopped selling 
it 

Re: CSarthritis CMO mussels with green lips

2012-04-17 Thread Jane MacRoss
Yes, I think I rang his son but it was summer and a bit impractical . or do 
you mean Harry Dheil?
  - Original Message - 
  From: gaiac...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritis CMO  mussels with green lips


The man who made the CMO did stop making it.  I tried getting some and 
couldn't.

Samala,
Renee 


   
  
   


Re: CSarthritis CMO mussels with green lips

2012-04-17 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
The son.  I actually got the father, the maker of the CMO that Bob bought. 
He said he had retired from doing it.  

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
Yes, I think I rang his son but it was summer and a bit impractical . or do 
you mean Harry Dheil?happy.gif

RE: CSMRSA infection

2012-04-17 Thread Lisa
Does anybody have a recipe?

 

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From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMRSA infection

 

I wonder if Tel would be interested in adding this gunpowder salve to his line?

PT

 

From: Dr. James McCourt [mailto:dr...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMRSA infection

 

Black powder is still available. USE EXTREME CAUTION! The finest grade I know 
of is called 4FG.  

 

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From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMRSA infection

 

Gunpowder today is what is called smokeless powder. It is not the same thing as 
was used back then. That stuff is now called black powder. Of course you can 
always make you own, I made it many a time when I was a child.

Marshall

On 4/15/2012 11:33 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: 

 

Can you buy gunpowder these days? As a homeopathic remedy it is miraculous at 
times - get a 12x potency and you wont need a salve? If  you can get gunpowder 
still tho you would just add it to the base of your choice.

- Original Message - 

From: Maple Springs mailto:i...@maplesprings.com  Farm 

 

paul's great grandfather used to make a really powerful black salve 
that was made out of gunpowder... i still have a bit of it here... 
wish i had the recipe it is AWESOME stuff! 

 

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RE: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

2012-04-17 Thread Lisa
Can you share where you get your serrapeptase from? I need to buy more and
the place I got it from before no longer carries it (and it was more
expensive).

 

TIA

 

Lisa

 

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From: craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

 

I've been taking serrepeptase for years...  but one should start small and
work up.  I buy Dr. Best Serrepeptase at $12+  a bottle.

connie




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Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

2012-04-17 Thread Alan Jones
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dr.+Best+Serrepeptase


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

 **

 Can you share where you get your serrapeptase from? I need to buy more and
 the place I got it from before no longer carries it (and it was more
 expensive).

 ** **

 TIA

 ** **

 Lisa

 ** **
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 **
 *Subject:* Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?
 

  ** **

 I've been taking serrepeptase for years...  but one should start small and
 work up.  I buy Dr. Best Serrepeptase at $12+  a bottle.

 connie


 
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Re: CSarthritis

2012-04-17 Thread Gayla Roberts
I take lemon juice in my water all day. That has reduced arthritis pain by 80%.
Gayla
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:43 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritis


  Try DMSO, its a horse liniment found at a tax store, where they sell saddle's 
  cowboy stuff. I use it on myself, it works ! I am 71 so far no side effect.

  Tel Tofflemire
  Herbalist

--
  From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritis


  Kathy Tankersley wrote:
   I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the post, 
what is anyone using for arthritis?  Seems like I hurt all over my whole body.  
  I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine chondroitin msm, 
and have for years.  But I'm ready to try something else, any suggestions?  
Thanks
   Kathy
  Kathy,
This is my experience.I was getting awful knobby hands, both Heberden's 
Nodes and Bouchard's Nodes, as well as very  painful knees and hips. I have 
some arthritis in my spine too, etc. My fingers now look almost normal. Joints 
are a bit large, and the twisting in my index fingers is still present, but 
basically the knobs and protrusions in the finger joints are pretty much gone. 
My knees and hips are no longer painful, unless I eat wheat/gluten. FWIW, at my 
worst a few years ago, I couldn't walk without 2 canes and a ton of pain. My 
knees not only do not hurt, but they don't even crackle and pop going up and 
down stairs.
I think what has produced my improvement is following the dietary 
recommendations of Ray Peat. I no longer consume any vegetable/seed oils 
(except for eating out once or twice a month). I don't use any commercial 
mayonnaise or salad dressings anymore either. I consume gelatin and collagen 
daily, about 30 grams a day on average. I drink lots of milk, eat lots of 
cheese.drink fruit juices and have fruit, and use sugar all over the 
place. There is more to my story, of course, but this covers the basics, LOL.
  sol


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Re: CSarthritis

2012-04-17 Thread Gayla Roberts
I used Asorbine Jr once on myself and gave the whole bottle away. I could taste 
it in every pore of my body. YUCK!
Gayla
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 8:00 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritis




   Just don't start galloping around the pasture? Kidding, of course, I suspect 
it has DMSU  MSM in it's make up, I did a lot of Jockey riding when I was 
young, and they had horse liniment's of all kinds, the older owners would like 
to DR. the horses so they got it rubbed into themselves too. where it hurt.
  Tel Tofflemire



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  From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:48 AM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritis



  I use a supplement that I get for my dogs. actually, it's a horse supplement, 
and it works! The product is Acti-Flex 4000 --I buy the horse formula for my 
older dogs and one day I tried it on myself, I now know many people who are 
using it, I take about two teaspoons a day (weigh around 150), 


  I buy it on line -- just be sure to get the horse formula -  the dog formula 
has some flavoring in it that isn't needed by us or the dogs!


   joyce 

  Sent from my iPad

  On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the post, 
what is anyone using for arthritis?  Seems like I hurt all over my whole body.  
  I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine chondroitin msm, 
and have for years.  But I'm ready to try something else, any suggestions?  
Thanks
Kathy




Re: CSarthritis

2012-04-17 Thread Alan Jones
Interesting.  Fresh?  How much?

-Alan

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 I take lemon juice in my water all day. That has reduced arthritis pain
 by 80%.
 Gayla

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 7:43 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSarthritis

  Try DMSO, its a horse liniment found at a tax store, where they sell
 saddle's   cowboy stuff. I use it on myself, it works ! I am 71 so far no
 side effect.

 Tel Tofflemire
 Herbalist
   --
 *From:* sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 3:04 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSarthritis

 Kathy Tankersley wrote:
  I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the
 post, what is anyone using for arthritis?  Seems like I hurt all over my
 whole body.I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine
 chondroitin msm, and have for years.  But I'm ready to try something else,
 any suggestions?  Thanks
  Kathy
 Kathy,
   This is my experience.I was getting awful knobby hands, both
 Heberden's Nodes and Bouchard's Nodes, as well as very  painful knees and
 hips. I have some arthritis in my spine too, etc. My fingers now look
 almost normal. Joints are a bit large, and the twisting in my index fingers
 is still present, but basically the knobs and protrusions in the finger
 joints are pretty much gone. My knees and hips are no longer painful,
 unless I eat wheat/gluten. FWIW, at my worst a few years ago, I couldn't
 walk without 2 canes and a ton of pain. My knees not only do not hurt, but
 they don't even crackle and pop going up and down stairs.
   I think what has produced my improvement is following the dietary
 recommendations of Ray Peat. I no longer consume any vegetable/seed oils
 (except for eating out once or twice a month). I don't use any commercial
 mayonnaise or salad dressings anymore either. I consume gelatin and
 collagen daily, about 30 grams a day on average. I drink lots of milk, eat
 lots of cheese.drink fruit juices and have fruit, and use sugar all
 over the place. There is more to my story, of course, but this covers the
 basics, LOL.
 sol


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RE: CSarthritis CMO mussels with green lips

2012-04-17 Thread PTFerrance
For those having trouble finding cetyl myristoleate I got mine at
www.beyondacentury.net which is now a .com.  I just checked and they still
have it on their webpage.

PT

 

From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritis CMO  mussels with green lips

 

Hi, folks, for what it`s worth, here`s what happened to me and my arthritis:
I took CMO about 3 years ago, after finding out about it right here on the
Silverlist. I also gave Cetyl M brand canine preparation to my then 9 year
old Pug dog. In a few weeks she was running and playing like a puppy, and my
joint pains all went away!! The small nodes on my pinky fingers didn`t, but
they don`t hurt at all.

  A few months ago, my knee started aching again, as did my shoulder, so I
re-read up on it, and found that sometimes one needs to take another course
of it after a few years, so I ordered in some more CMO from Duoflex. Well,
after just one bottle, (30 capsules over 10 days) my knees are feeling lots
better now, and the shoulder is fine. (I gave the extra bottle and cream to
my friend, who also has bone spurs and joint pains. I hope it`ll help her!)
I have told my bone doc about CMO and I hope he`ll look into it.

 Also I discovered that eating cheese and drinking store-bought milk makes
my joints hurt, so maybe that was the insult that started my arthritis up to
begin with. I`m off them now and feel much better.

Hope this helps...

Marshalee

PS, I have a new Pug puppy!! Joy... :o)

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
wrote:

Hee hee - well yes!  CMO was great for me - Harry Deihl's stuff - but I
think they aren't selling it anymore and the Global Light people are not
either - but I took it for 3 months and went through agony in the process -
there were a heap of support remedies at the same time I did the lot - cost
so much I felt compelled to! DB helped me through that - he explained as the
joint is relined and filled the pressure can get painful

 

 

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2012-04-17 Thread Johanna noonesbusiness
how is everything going be rewarded for your effort http://www.review-cnbc.com/ 
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CSarthritis and ppm count

2012-04-17 Thread Jared De la Torriente

ill like to share  a point i learned.  My grand ma and mother in law both have  
chronic fatige and artritis  for some time. both  have  show  pain relieve 
with taking ICS, more joint movility so  it most be  helping since all their 
regular  medication seem  to have  stop helping and  ther joint and movility 
was deteriorating. an as far as PPM, i done   much reasearch and popular 
believe is  now amongs  savy experts that is  the IONIC content on the colloid 
solution that does  wonders for curing not the PPM or  silver particle  
content, the  particle content does have  some mild anti bacterial efffects but 
its true strengh is the silver ions. a  5ppm silver colloid is more or less 80% 
silver colloid particles and 20% or less ionic silver.a  5ppm ionic/colloidal 
silver  is more or less 80% ionic and 20% silver colloid particles.  a  5ppm 
colloidal silver hidrosol is over 95% ionic and less than 5% silver colloid 
particles. another way of putting  you ll need to ingest much less ML of silver 
hidrosol at 5ppm, insted of ingesting highe amount ML of a 20+PPM silver 
colloid solution to get the same results. a lot much less is need to regain 
health. High 20+PPM silver solution means more silver particles witch may have 
to big of a size that can acumulated on the body, leading to a possible argiria 
look on the skin and  nails. still efective but more needs to be ingested.  
lower ppm  5-10PPM ionic or hidrosol are much better and more efective and much 
less needed to be ingested to get results. i recently fought off salmonelosis 
in 1.5 days taking power doses of  silver hidrosol home made at 8ppm infuse 
with 528 hz dna repair and accelerated  healing. hope this help you guys out. 
NAMASTE.. 

Re: CSTel - What PPM is your CS?

2012-04-17 Thread Sam Nabors
home distillers can't get tap water down to 0ppm (my distilled water is 2ppm) 
so what I do is run it through a zero water pitcher(deionized water) first and 
then distill it. That gets it down to 0ppm.


 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSTel - What PPM is your CS?
 

My CS is mostly from 10 ppm to 15 ppm The higher the PPM the easier  it is to 
dilute it with Pure Steam Distilled water, ( But be careful it will lower the 
PPM too much if your not careful ) do it real slow and keep testing it.
 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:05 PM
Subject: CSTel - What PPM is your CS?
 

Hi Tel,

What PPM is your CS?  As far as I know you have the cheapest price for people 
who want to buy in gallons.  Some people who ask me don't want to mess with 
making it, so it is good to know the alternative.  

David

Re: CSTel - What PPM is your CS?

2012-04-17 Thread Asif Nathekar
Agreed , I distill the water twice
In the first distill I allow the water to boil for at least ten minutes with 
the Condensing unit unattached so that 
Anything that has a boiling point less than the tap water would have  hopefully 
reduced significantly by then.
I found this helped a lot.





On 17 Apr 2012, at 17:04, Sam Nabors samuelnab...@yahoo.com wrote:

 home distillers can't get tap water down to 0ppm (my distilled water is 2ppm) 
 so what I do is run it through a zero water pitcher(deionized water) first 
 and then distill it. That gets it down to 0ppm.
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: CSTel - What PPM is your CS?
 
 My CS is mostly from 10 ppm to 15 ppm The higher the PPM the easier  it is to 
 dilute it with Pure Steam Distilled water, ( But be careful it will lower the 
 PPM too much if your not careful ) do it real slow and keep testing it.
  
 Tel Tofflemire
 
 From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:05 PM
 Subject: CSTel - What PPM is your CS?
 
 Hi Tel,
 
 What PPM is your CS?  As far as I know you have the cheapest price for people 
 who want to buy in gallons.  Some people who ask me don't want to mess with 
 making it, so it is good to know the alternative.  
 
 David
 
 
 
 


Re: CSTel - What PPM is your CS?

2012-04-17 Thread olushola camara
What home distiller do you use?

If one puts tap water in the ZWP, does it removes the minerals? My concern
here is for drinking. Distill water has no charge and therefore it has no
antioxidant properties, that is, negative hydrogen ions.

However this 2 step process for producing CS is great.

Olushola

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Sam Nabors samuelnab...@yahoo.com wrote:

 home distillers can't get tap water down to 0ppm (my distilled water is
 2ppm) so what I do is run it through a zero water pitcher(deionized water)
 first and then distill it. That gets it down to 0ppm.



Re: CSarthritis CMO mussels with green lips

2012-04-17 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
I've just ordered it there, too - and it is only 12 bucks for  100 gms 
right now - on sale, and shipping on two bags is only 5 bucks.  Some 
won't like that it is bulk powder - you need to fill your own capsules.  
But it is less expensive that way. Http://www.vitaglo.com  carries two 
different brands of it, though I can't see on the label what percent is 
actually cetyl myristoleate.  Those are pills - capsules I think.   Sara


For those having trouble finding cetyl myristoleate I got mine at 
www.beyondacentury.net http://www.beyondacentury.net which is now a 
.com.  I just checked and they still have it on their webpage.


PT







Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

2012-04-17 Thread Sandee George


Attitude is Everything


On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dr.+Best+Serrepeptase
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:
 Can you share where you get your serrapeptase from? I need to buy more and 
 the place I got it from before no longer carries it (and it was more 
 expensive).
 
  
 
 TIA
 
  
 
 Lisa
 
  
 
 From: craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:47 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
 Subject: Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?
  
 
 I've been taking serrepeptase for years...  but one should start small and 
 work up.  I buy Dr. Best Serrepeptase at $12+  a bottle.
 
 connie
 
 
 
 
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 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
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RE: CSarthritis CMO mussels with green lips

2012-04-17 Thread PTFerrance
I don't capsulate it I just put it in my mouth and take a mouthful of
water/juice.  It kind of sticks together so it goes down as one mass.  I
forgot to say I also take the collagen which I think is helpful as well.

PT

 

From: Sara Mandal-Joy [mailto:smjl...@wavewls.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSarthritis CMO  mussels with green lips

 

I've just ordered it there, too - and it is only 12 bucks for  100 gms right
now - on sale, and shipping on two bags is only 5 bucks.  Some won't like
that it is bulk powder - you need to fill your own capsules.  But it is less
expensive that way.  Http://www.vitaglo.com  carries two different brands of
it, though I can't see on the label what percent is actually cetyl
myristoleate.  Those are pills - capsules I think.   Sara



For those having trouble finding cetyl myristoleate I got mine at
www.beyondacentury.net which is now a .com.  I just checked and they still
have it on their webpage.

PT

 

 

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Re: CSPost URLs

2012-04-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
You may not have the same layout as i do, David, but.. right at the
top of my inbox, there are buttons.. They read, from left to right,
Archive, Spam, Delete, Move to, Labels, More.  When I want to save an
email, I just click on the Move to button and it lets me create new (I
give it a label) and it gets saved that way.  If it is a similar email
or something that is on the same subject as another email that I have
already saved this way, I still click on the Move to .. and just
highlight the subject that I have already saved and it automatically
joins that post.  So.. they are all together.  If your layout isn't
identical, you probably have something similar?  Poke around and see,
ok?  Let us know how it goes.   Lola

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aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there any known way to bookmark the links to posts on this forum right
 from my email?  I am always reading messages and then having to go and find
 them in the archives to bookmark the link to the post.

 David


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RE: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

2012-04-17 Thread Lisa
Thank you!

 

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From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

 



Attitude is Everything

 


On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dr.+Best+Serrepeptase

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

Can you share where you get your serrapeptase from? I need to buy more and
the place I got it from before no longer carries it (and it was more
expensive).

 

TIA

 

Lisa

 


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From: craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


Subject: Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

 

I've been taking serrepeptase for years...  but one should start small and
work up.  I buy Dr. Best Serrepeptase at $12+  a bottle.

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Re: CSarthritis

2012-04-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
I have a bad back (broke it in five places in an auto accident yrs
ago) and have been chasing pain relief for years (I am 69 now).  My
all over arthritic pain had gotten so bad that I moaned and groaned
everytime I had to get up  down in the chair or bend over the
dishwasher or oven... lol

But, I think I have finally found the magic combo.  I use HA
(hyaluronic acid) 2 caps AM-2 caps PM (you can take 4 - 6 - 8 per day)
from Vitacost - do read the reviews.
http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?x=25y=11ntk=productsss=1Ntt=hyaluronic%20acid%20100%20mg

a glass of Willards Water per day-WW from http://www.willardswater.com/home.php

and.. the very best item is.. an earthing sheet from
http://www.earthing.com/Whatisearthing_s/1820.htm
lol. at first blush, this will seem truly wierd  but IT WORKS !!  You
can get a tester (depends on which kit you get) with your
earthing/grounding sheet.  The tester is easy to operate.. just place
it on a surface and if it is grounding, the green lite goes on.  You
only plug this wire into your home's grounding system (that third hole
in your electrical faceplate - I use my power strip) and the other end
snaps onto a snap sewn on the end of the sheet.  You can also get a
tester to make sure your home is properly grounded and that's it.. it
uses NO electricity.

Well, recently, my old nagging back ache started up.. not too bad ..
but there for the first time in months.  Then the other nite, that old
familiar burning pain in my neck  right shoulder started up while I
was seated at my 'puter.  I couldn't believe it!!  I jumped up, saying
to myself.. no.. no.. please, no.. and went into my bedroom, threw
back the covers on my bed, grabbed the tester and started moving it
all around in the area where I lay mostly.  Sure enuf, the green lite
wouldn't come on in a lot of places and.. only intermittently in
others.

Well, that was a fine kettle of fish.  I had had the 1/2 sheet almost
12 months and was disappointed that it hadn't lasted at least for a
full twelve months, but then I told myself .. that's about $ 15.00 per
month and I had been wonderfully pain free.  I would have spent that
for a supplement and never batted an eye, right?  So.. as nutty and
squirrly as this item may sound, it has truly worked for me and I plan
to never be without it, if I can help it.  Do read about earthing (the
book is on Amazon and EBay) and even try going barefoot outside for
1/2 hr or so and see if it helps the aches  pains.  An
earthing/grounding sheet might be a worthwhile purchase for you.  I
have no financial or other interest in these links I have shared with
you.  Lola

ps.. two other things I turn to when I throw my back out from exertion
or whatever, is a castor oil heat pack and tectonic back magnet.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Kathy Tankersley
babychicks...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the post,
 what is anyone using for arthritis?  Seems like I hurt all over my whole
 body.    I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine
 chondroitin msm, and have for years.  But I'm ready to try something else,
 any suggestions?  Thanks
 Kathy


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Re: CSMRSA infection

2012-04-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
An understatement, Tel.  I can see you flying thru the air after trying to
mix up a batch of this stuff  thanks for a good laugh !!

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Tel Tofflemire

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 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 8:29 PM

 *Subject:* RE: CSMRSA infection
 [image: lt):) cowboy] No, I don't think so ?  Tel


   I wonder if Tel would be interested in adding this gunpowder salve to
 his line?
 PT

  *From:* Dr. James McCourt [mailto:dr...@earthlink.net]
 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 6:40 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* RE: CSMRSA infection

 Black powder is still available. USE EXTREME CAUTION! The finest grade I
 know of is called 4FG.

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 *Subject:* Re: CSMRSA infection

 Gunpowder today is what is called smokeless powder. It is not the same
 thing as was used back then. That stuff is now called black powder. Of
 course you can always make you own, I made it many a time when I was a
 child.

 Marshall

 On 4/15/2012 11:33 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote:
 
  Can you buy gunpowder these days? As a homeopathic remedy it is
 miraculous at times - get a 12x potency and you wont need a salve? If  you
 can get gunpowder still tho you would just add it to the base of your
 choice.

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 paul's great grandfather used to make a really powerful black salve
 that was made out of gunpowder... i still have a bit of it here...
 wish i had the recipe it is AWESOME stuff!


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Re: CSPost URLs

2012-04-17 Thread David AuBuchon
It dawned on me:

http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-emails-have-permanent-web-address/6811/


If you use gmail, every email message has a unique URL!.  I am gonna start
just copying and pasting that URL into my word documents.

David

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:30 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net
 wrote:

 You may not have the same layout as i do, David, but.. right at the
 top of my inbox, there are buttons.. They read, from left to right,
 Archive, Spam, Delete, Move to, Labels, More.  When I want to save an
 email, I just click on the Move to button and it lets me create new (I
 give it a label) and it gets saved that way.  If it is a similar email
 or something that is on the same subject as another email that I have
 already saved this way, I still click on the Move to .. and just
 highlight the subject that I have already saved and it automatically
 joins that post.  So.. they are all together.  If your layout isn't
 identical, you probably have something similar?  Poke around and see,
 ok?  Let us know how it goes.   Lola

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:24 PM, David AuBuchon
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there any known way to bookmark the links to posts on this forum right
  from my email?  I am always reading messages and then having to go and
 find
  them in the archives to bookmark the link to the post.
 
  David


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Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

2012-04-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Lisa.. Vitacost carries Dr's serrapeptase for $ 11.58 for 90 caps or $
30.95 or 270 caps
http://www.vitacost.com/doctors-best-serrapeptase

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:
 Thank you!



 

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:14 PM


 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?





 Attitude is Everything




 On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dr.+Best+Serrepeptase

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

 Can you share where you get your serrapeptase from? I need to buy more and
 the place I got it from before no longer carries it (and it was more
 expensive).



 TIA



 Lisa



 

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 Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:47 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com


 Subject: Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?



 I've been taking serrepeptase for years...  but one should start small and
 work up.  I buy Dr. Best Serrepeptase at $12+  a bottle.

 connie



 
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Re: CSPost URLs

2012-04-17 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Sounds like a plan, my friend.   Lola

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon
aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 It dawned on me:

 http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-emails-have-permanent-web-address/6811/

 If you use gmail, every email message has a unique URL!.  I am gonna start
 just copying and pasting that URL into my word documents.

 David

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:30 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net
 phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:

 You may not have the same layout as i do, David, but.. right at the
 top of my inbox, there are buttons.. They read, from left to right,
 Archive, Spam, Delete, Move to, Labels, More.  When I want to save an
 email, I just click on the Move to button and it lets me create new (I
 give it a label) and it gets saved that way.  If it is a similar email
 or something that is on the same subject as another email that I have
 already saved this way, I still click on the Move to .. and just
 highlight the subject that I have already saved and it automatically
 joins that post.  So.. they are all together.  If your layout isn't
 identical, you probably have something similar?  Poke around and see,
 ok?  Let us know how it goes.   Lola

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:24 PM, David AuBuchon
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there any known way to bookmark the links to posts on this forum
  right
  from my email?  I am always reading messages and then having to go and
  find
  them in the archives to bookmark the link to the post.
 
  David


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CSarthritis and ppm count

2012-04-17 Thread Alchemysa

Jared

There is absolutely no credible evidence whatsover for the claim that  
ionic silver is better than colloidal or vise versa. All the tests  
quoted by the promoters on each side are LAB TESTS IN PETRI DISHES.   
It is utterly unbelievable to project such results (achieved in a  
small perfectly controlled environment containing just a couple of  
ingredients) to what may happen in the infinitely more complicated  
chemistry and vastly larger volume of the human body.


In the human body ions may (or may not) work faster, but colloids may  
(or may not) hang around and work for longer. Which woud you prefer?  
Anyway, ions probably turn into colloids the instant they hit the  
bloodstream and particles may be continuously releasing ions! No-one  
really knows what is happening.


Theres a mountain of in vitro research proving that just about every  
form of silver kills bacteria, from hard, pure silver coatings on  
medical appliances, to unstable silver compounds of every  
description.  And frankly thats about all we really know. All the  
rest is just theory.


Sure, swallow the 'hydrosol' (its just another name for colloidal  
silver) but don't swallow the sales pitch.


David






From: Jared De la Torriente jarochoda...@hotmail.com
Date: 18 April 2012 12:45:45 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSarthritis  and ppm  count


ill like to share  a point i learned.

 My grand ma and mother in law both have  chronic fatige and  
artritis  for some time. both  have  show  pain relieve with  
taking ICS, more joint movility so  it most be  helping since all  
their regular  medication seem  to have  stop helping and  ther  
joint and movility was deteriorating.


an as far as PPM, i done   much reasearch and popular believe is   
now amongs  savy experts that is  the IONIC content on the colloid  
solution that does  wonders for curing not the PPM or  silver  
particle  content, the  particle content does have  some mild anti  
bacterial efffects but its true strengh is the silver ions.


a  5ppm silver colloid is more or less 80% silver colloid particles  
and 20% or less ionic silver.
a  5ppm ionic/colloidal silver  is more or less 80% ionic and 20%  
silver colloid particles.
a  5ppm colloidal silver hidrosol is over 95% ionic and less than  
5% silver colloid particles.


another way of putting  you ll need to ingest much less ML of  
silver hidrosol at 5ppm, insted of ingesting highe amount ML of a 20 
+PPM silver colloid solution to get the same results. a lot much  
less is need to regain health.


High 20+PPM silver solution means more silver particles witch may  
have to big of a size that can acumulated on the body, leading to a  
possible argiria look on the skin and  nails. still efective but  
more needs to be ingested.  lower ppm  5-10PPM ionic or hidrosol  
are much better and more efective and much less needed to be  
ingested to get results.


i recently fought off salmonelosis in 1.5 days taking power doses  
of  silver hidrosol home made at 8ppm infuse with 528 hz dna repair  
and accelerated  healing.


hope this help you guys out.

NAMASTE..




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Re: CSMRSA infection

2012-04-17 Thread cking001
Wouldn't use a mortar/pestle in compounding this...

Chuck
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On 4/17/2012 4:58:07 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net (phoenix23...@tds.net)
wrote:
 An understatement, Tel.  I can see you flying thru the air after trying to
 mix up a batch of this stuff  thanks for a good laugh !!
 


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Re: CSarthritis and ppm count

2012-04-17 Thread mgperrault

Probably though, there is a difference between ionic and colloidal.

I have a few snips from papers, sorry cant give details. In one test 
they were observing what happened to silver colloids that were aborbed 
in a liposomal cream.  silver ended up accumulating between blood 
vessels and stuck  in lysosomes.


In my mind, there is no clear test that shows that silver is not toxic, 
even though it appears to be only mildly toxic, but this is a common 
theme in medicine, where they continually have to lower the level of a 
substance as they find out more, like lead, pesticides, plastics...you 
name it.


when I see microphotos of silver particles in tissue, they dont look 
like they should be there.  I continue to use the stuff though.  Did 
anyone get a feeling of a metallic cold feeling in the extremeties?  Im 
currently wondering if this is a side effect...

---

snips;

silver and gold ended up in the kuppfer cells
reticuloendothelial
system

The phagocytosis of intact liposomes was demonstrated by the appearance 
of silver-labelled unilamellar vesicles within the cytoplasm of 
undamaged keratinocytes. The labelled liposomes were found enclosed in 
cellular unit membranes, i.e. in lysosomes. In addition, perinuclear 
disintegration and release of the entrapped marker were observed. Silver 
particles, as present in liposomally encapsulated SSD, were found to be 
adequate markers for electron microscopy. Our results confirm the 
phagocytosis of intact liposomes by keratinocytes in vitro. In addition, 
the cytotoxic effects of liposomal (intended for the treatment of burns) 
and free SSD on human keratinocytes were studied in detail. Many 
keratinocytes treated for 10 min or more were severely affected.


 Data from silver suggest that these ions denature proteins (enzymes) 
of the target cell or organism by binding to reactive groups resulting 
in their precipitation and inactivation. Silver inactivates enzymes by 
reacting with the sulfhydryl groups to form silver sulfides. Silver also 
reacts with the amino-, carboxyl-, phosphate-, and imidazole-groups and 
diminish the activities of lactate dehydrogenase and glutathione 
peroxidase. Bacteria (gram+ and gram-) are in general affected by the 
oligodynamic effect, but they can develop a heavy-metal resistance, or 
in the case of silver a silver-resistance. Virus in general are not very 
sensitive. The toxic effect is fully developed often only after a long 
time (many hours).



On 4/17/2012 4:38 PM, Alchemysa wrote:

Jared

There is absolutely no credible evidence whatsover for the claim that 
ionic silver is better than colloidal or vise versa. All the tests 
quoted by the promoters on each side are LAB TESTS IN PETRI DISHES.  
It is utterly unbelievable to project such results (achieved in a 
small perfectly controlled environment containing just a couple of 
ingredients) to what may happen in the infinitely more complicated 
chemistry and vastly larger volume of the human body.


In the human body ions may (or may not) work faster, but colloids may 
(or may not) hang around and work for longer. Which woud you prefer? 
Anyway, ions probably turn into colloids the instant they hit the 
bloodstream and particles may be continuously releasing ions! No-one 
really knows what is happening.


Theres a mountain of in vitro research proving that just about every 
form of silver kills bacteria, from hard, pure silver coatings on 
medical appliances, to unstable silver compounds of every 
description.  And frankly thats about all we really know. All the rest 
is just theory.


Sure, swallow the 'hydrosol' (its just another name for colloidal 
silver) but don't swallow the sales pitch.


David






From: Jared De la Torriente jarochoda...@hotmail.com
Date: 18 April 2012 12:45:45 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSarthritis  and ppm  count


ill like to share  a point i learned.

 My grand ma and mother in law both have  chronic fatige and 
artritis  for some time. both  have  show  pain relieve with 
taking ICS, more joint movility so  it most be  helping since all 
their regular  medication seem  to have  stop helping and  ther joint 
and movility was deteriorating.


an as far as PPM, i done   much reasearch and popular believe is  now 
amongs  savy experts that is  the IONIC content on the colloid 
solution that does  wonders for curing not the PPM or  silver 
particle  content, the  particle content does have  some mild anti 
bacterial efffects but its true strengh is the silver ions.


a  5ppm silver colloid is more or less 80% silver colloid particles 
and 20% or less ionic silver.
a  5ppm ionic/colloidal silver  is more or less 80% ionic and 20% 
silver colloid particles.
a  5ppm colloidal silver hidrosol is over 95% ionic and less than 5% 
silver colloid particles.


another way of putting  you ll need to ingest much less ML of silver 
hidrosol at 5ppm, insted of ingesting highe amount ML of a 20+PPM 
silver colloid solution to get 

RE: CSarthritis and ppm count

2012-04-17 Thread Neville Munn

Ignoring any arguable differences between ions and colloids in the health 
benefit area, to your best understanding, could you define exactly what 
constitutes a 'colloid' for me?  Also, could you define what constitutes a 
colloidal product?  How is *a* product defined as a 'colloidal' product?
Many products are termed 'colloidal' when if fact they are not, they are 
predominantly ionic.  They *should* state, if appropriate or applicable, a 
*predominantly* colloidal product.  THAT'S the major difference to me.
The term 'colloid' as in 'colloidal silver' has been used and abused by 
marketers for decades, and most of those products are not colloidal as they 
lead the punter to believe.
S, could you define exactly what it is in your mind that constitutes a 
'colloid', and what constitutes a 'colloidal' product?  And does that term 
strictly apply to what is produced using LVDC, or even HVAC praps?
A 'colloid' in this instance is a collection of ions grouped together with a 
fluid layer between each ion I believe, does that make this cluster of ions a 
'colloid' by definition?  It's not a solid 'particle' as such to my knowledge.  
Definition is open to interpretation maybe?

N.

 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:47:15 -0700
 From: mgperra...@aol.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSarthritis  and ppm  count
 
 Probably though, there is a difference between ionic and colloidal.
 

 
 
  

Re: CSarthritis

2012-04-17 Thread Guyot Léna

Hi Alan,
Despite citrus being a problem for some arthritis sufferers,  
(nightshade also), fresh lemon juice metabolizes as alkaline in the  
body and is an excellent way to help fight acidity. That said, it can  
still etch tooth enamel before it's swallowed and digested, so lemon  
water is best sipped through a straw. I squeeze at least a half a  
lemon into my large Nalgene water bottle. It's one of the great ways  
to alkalize. Don't use the prepared lemon juice from bottles, like  
Realemon, etc.; just doesn't work the same way.
BTW, I read in an allergy book that a good way to test for allergy to  
citrus, like orange juice, grapefruit, etc, and tomatoes, peppers,  
eggplant (all nightshade) it to take some Alka-seltzer GOLD (Amazon  
carries it) and if you experience relief of joint pain within 20 min,  
you have acidity issues from these foods. As a Lymie, I've also  
noticed that ASG seems to reduce the intensity of herxes in the joints  
for the same reason.


Be well,
Léna
On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Alan Jones wrote:

Interesting.  Fresh?  How much?

-Alan

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com  
wrote:
I take lemon juice in my water all day. That has reduced arthritis  
pain by 80%.

Gayla
- Original Message -
From: Tel Tofflemire
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritis

Try DMSO, its a horse liniment found at a tax store, where they sell  
saddle's   cowboy stuff. I use it on myself, it works ! I am 71 so  
far no side effect.


Tel Tofflemire
Herbalist
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritis

Kathy Tankersley wrote:
 I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save  
the post, what is anyone using for arthritis?  Seems like I hurt all  
over my whole body.I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take  
glucosamine chondroitin msm, and have for years.  But I'm ready to try  
something else, any suggestions?  Thanks

 Kathy
Kathy,
  This is my experience.I was getting awful knobby hands, both  
Heberden's Nodes and Bouchard's Nodes, as well as very  painful knees  
and hips. I have some arthritis in my spine too, etc. My fingers now  
look almost normal. Joints are a bit large, and the twisting in my  
index fingers is still present, but basically the knobs and  
protrusions in the finger joints are pretty much gone. My knees and  
hips are no longer painful, unless I eat wheat/gluten. FWIW, at my  
worst a few years ago, I couldn't walk without 2 canes and a ton of  
pain.   My knees not only do not hurt, but they don't even crackle and  
pop going up and down stairs.
  I think what has produced my improvement is following the dietary  
recommendations of Ray Peat. I no longer consume any vegetable/seed  
oils (except for eating out once or twice a month). I don't use any  
commercial mayonnaise or salad dressings anymore either. I consume  
gelatin and collagen daily, about 30 grams a day on average. I drink  
lots of milk, eat lots of cheese.drink fruit juices and have  
fruit, and use sugar all over the place. There is more to my story, of  
course, but this covers the basics, LOL.

sol


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CSMiracle prayer recording

2012-04-17 Thread gaiac...@gmail.com
Here's an article about a miracle prayer from ancient times that has been
recorded and has sold thousands of copies.  As a 10th anniversary of it's
introduction to modern times they are giving away 10,000 copies.  These will
be in download form, not cds sent through the mail.  

You can read about it here and at the bottom there is a link to the download
site.

http://www.prnewswire
com/news-releases/medical-doctor-gives-away-miracle-prayer-recording-14592690
.html

Samala,
Renee