Re: CS>Question......

[Michael Brown]

Thank-you for the fascinating info, I will research the links as well.  
   Sincerely, mlbrown

>

Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Lena Guyot]

Mine has a little magnetic stirrer stand that I ordered with it. L
On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Jasmine Mykal wrote:

> Is a stirrer of mixer necessary?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Teri and the Happy Hooligans
> 
> On Jan 20, 2014 9:30 AM, "Lena Guyot"  wrote:
> Hi Ode,
> True to form, you kindly share info: not for profit and sales, but simply to 
> be of help.
> I haven't used the other two generators you listed first; I know they have 
> excellent reviews. 
> 
> I can only add my review of the Silver Puppy, which has served me well for 
> YEARS! It's easy, Lymie-brain-proof and makes excellent product. This last 
> week was proof of that, after we were exposed to a beloved little child with 
> a virulent URI. I dosed an oz. of CS at regular intervals, nebulized it into 
> my lungs, and misted it up my nose whenever I felt any stuffiness or 
> pressure. My husband, who was much less diligent, did it 'sometimes'. I'm 
> fine, and he's counting out the days of a classic cold.
> 
> Why suffer if you have a Silver Puppy at your service?
> 
> Be well,
> Léna
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Sandra V George wrote:
> 
>> As always well said Ode - wishing you a wonderful 2014
>> manifesting all you wish for yourself;  my equipment still runs as it did 
>> from the very first day, now some 14 years ago
>> Research, knowledge experience and desire cannot be topped!!!
>> Cheers
>> Sandee🐬
>> Attitude is Everything
>> Alive Again Colloidal Silver drops & gel
>> Organo Gold Coffee infused with Reishe mushroom
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>   It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of 
>>> warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be 
>>> circumvented with a heat gun ]
>>> What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor, [all 
>>> to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish tank air 
>>> pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps which is 
>>> only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
>>> No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a $15 DC wall power 
>>> supply in a tiny fish tank.
>>> 
>>> Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.
>>> 
>>>  The three top deals on the market [IMO]
>>> 
>>> www.wishgranted.com
>>> www.silvergen.com
>>> www.silverpuppy.com
>>> 
>>> If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy 
>>> website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual 
>>> functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS  ]
>>> www.silverlungs.com
>>> 
>>> Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors 
>>> that can eventually corrode motor bearings.
>>> 
>>> ..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your 
>>> emotions as a sales tactic.
>>> 
>>> Ode
>>> 
>>> At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
 Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I 
 found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in the 
 west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions here and 
 want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Debbie
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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Lena Guyot]

Well THAT's an intriguing remark! Do Tell! L
On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Ode Coyote wrote:

> 
> 
>  aww shucks.
> 
> ...shuffles feet
> 
> But stay tuned for what's in the pipeline... you ain't seen nuthin yet
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:40 PM 1/20/2014 -0400, you wrote:
>> As always well said Ode - wishing you a wonderful 2014
>> manifesting all you wish for yourself;  my equipment still runs as it did 
>> from the very first day, now some 14 years ago
>> Research, knowledge experience and desire cannot be topped!!!
>> Cheers
>> Sandee🐬
>> Attitude is Everything
>> Alive Again Colloidal Silver drops & gel
>> Organo Gold Coffee infused with Reishe mushroom
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>   It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of 
>>> warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be 
>>> circumvented with a heat gun ]
>>> What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor, [all 
>>> to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish tank air 
>>> pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps which is 
>>> only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
>>> No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a $15 DC wall power 
>>> supply in a tiny fish tank.
>>> 
>>> Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.
>>> 
>>>  The three top deals on the market [IMO]
>>> 
>>> www.wishgranted.com
>>> www.silvergen.com
>>> www.silverpuppy.com
>>> 
>>> If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy 
>>> website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual 
>>> functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS  ]
>>> www.silverlungs.com
>>> 
>>> Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors 
>>> that can eventually corrode motor bearings.
>>> 
>>> ...avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your 
>>> emotions as a sales tactic.
>>> 
>>> Ode
>>> 
>>> At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
 Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I 
 found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in the 
 west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions here and 
 want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Debbie
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RE: CS>Where to buy generator(to Joe)

[Neville]

I made my own stir bar originally Joe, a nail cut down to size and rounded on 
each end then surrounded with heat shrink tubing such as electricians use to 
cover soldered joints.  It worked OK, but I didn't trust the heat shrink to 
remain totally water proof around the nail over time so I bought some proper 
stir bars.
N.

Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:02:25 -0500
From: joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Where to buy generator(to Neville)


  

  
  
This would be way easy to build if I had an idea of what you are
proposing. Not enough explanation, like where to put the parts. What
is a stir bar? I know it stirs, but how?

A drawing would be very nice!





  

  

  
  

  


  

  

  

  


  

Re: CS>Question......

[Dan Nave]

This was Robert L. Berger (Ole Bob to us EISers)

Dan


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:

> Ole Bob wrote:
>
> "The History of Colloidal Silver
>
> "Silver has been used throughout history by the aristocracy
> for plates and drinking vessels, and its use has been a
> source of protection from the ravages that affect the mass of
> humanity. Our pioneers would add a silver dollar to the milk
> buckets to prolong the useful life. If you so choose you can add
> a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon of milk and it
> will not spoil for weeks.
>
> "Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over
> ninety US letters patents of silver compounds for medicinal
> purposes. It was during 1917 that Dr . Henry Crooke conducted
> 2,000 tests proving that silver solutions would kill
> almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver solutions could not be
> patented, the Food and Drug Administration was moved by the
> pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the American
> Medical Association.
>
> "For those who want an in-depth look at the history of
> the use of silver for human well being I suggest that you visit
> the Google.com web site and enter "colloidal silver ." Another
> worthwhile web site is at www.silverinstitute.org in Washington
> D. C. You will enjoy the www.silverlon.com web site as
> their product has been approved by the FDA and the AMA.
>
> "If the web site is selling a product be careful what you
> believe about their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best.
>
> "Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest
> on the role that silver played in the building of the Burma road
> during world War II . Shortly after construction began everything
> stopped due to dysentery and diarrhea from the water
> supply. An English doctor gathe red up a number ofD batteries
> and silver coins, which he took to India.
>
> "The coins were converted into wires about a meter long
> and one was soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver
> wires were placed in the Lister bags water supply with the
> batteries on the outside. In just a few days the medical problem
> disappeared and the road was completed.
>
> "At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our
> water supply was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff
> water, and I was curious about the silver process. At my request
> the director of the research laboratory had his personnel prepare
> twelve petri dishes for bacterial culture growth.
>
> "A water sample was divided into three parts. One part
> was used to make a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the
> untreated water, a second set was made for water that was stirred
> with a silver wire for two minutes, and the third set was made
> using water that had been stirred with two silver wires that were
> soldered to the ends of a D battery.
>
> "What follows are my personal experiences while investigating
> the making of a silver product to be used for human
> consumption.
>
> "The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight
> hours so that any bacteria present would grow. At the end of
> the incubation period the samples were viewed with results as
> listed on the table.
>
> "Untreated Water:
> 1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth.
> 2/10 to 3/100 had successfully reduced growth.
> 4/1000 had five colonies of bacteria.
>
> "Stirred Water:
> 1/1 had a few colonies.
> 1/10 had less than sample 1.
> 1/100 and 1/1000 were free of bacterial growth.
>
> "Electrolyzed Water:
> All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free.
>
> I returned to the United States in 1957, and in 1997
> while browsing the Internet I encountered a silver list moderated
> by Professor Katherine Stevenson of the Jamestown College in
> North Dakota, which I joined.
>
> "I soon realized that every list member had their own
> special way of making what they called colloidal silver, and
> there was little interest to arrive at a standard process. There
> upon started my investigation of the electrolytic process for
> making a silver product."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Michael Brown wrote:
>
>>
>> Just curious, who was it that originally started making this stuff? My
>> first experiments were the result of reading Bob Beck's literature. Don't
>> re
>> call anyone prior to that. Anyone know?   thanks, mlbrown
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Ode Coyote]

  If using DC on the electrodes and don't want to oversaturate areas of
water or leave a mirror on the bottom...yes.
If using polarity switching..works pretty good without stirring if  most of
the water is near electrode surfaces, but a stirrer still does nice things.

Periodic Ion directional change does do some stirring, not much but
generally enough and natural convection and Brownian motion contributes
some...but you still want ALL the water to get between the electrodes
eventually.

...could just poke a stick in there and give it a twirl now and then.

Ode


At 11:11 AM 1/20/2014 -0800, you wrote:


Is a stirrer of mixer necessary?

Thanks!

Teri and the Happy Hooligans
On Jan 20, 2014 9:30 AM, "Lena Guyot"
<drumr...@stny.rr.com> wrote:
Hi Ode,
True to form, you kindly share info: not for profit and sales, but simply 
to be of help.

I haven't used the other two generators you listed first; I know they have
excellent reviews.Â

I can only add my review of the Silver Puppy, which has served me well for
YEARS! It's easy, Lymie-brain-proof and makes excellent product. This last
week was proof of that, after we were exposed to a beloved little child
with a virulent URI. I dosed an oz. of CS at regular intervals, nebulized 
it into my lungs, and misted it up my nose whenever I felt any stuffiness 
or pressure. My husband, who was much less diligent, did it 'sometimes'.

I'm fine, and he's counting out the days of a classic cold.

Why suffer if you have a Silver Puppy at your service?

Be well,
Léna


On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Sandra V George wrote:


As always well said Ode - wishing you a wonderful 2014
manifesting all you wish for yourself; Â my equipment still runs as it 
did from the very first day, now some 14 years ago

Research, knowledge experience and desire cannot be topped!!!
Cheers
Sandee🐬
Attitude is Everything
Alive Again Colloidal Silver drops & gel
Organo Gold Coffee infused with Reishe mushroom

On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ode Coyote
<odecoy...@silverpuppy.com> wrote:



  It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of
warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be 
circumvented with a heat gun ]

What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor,
[all to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish 
tank air pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps

which is only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
No more process control than a "3 nines"Â  generator or a $15 DC wall 
power supply in a tiny fish tank.


Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.

 The three top deals on the market [IMO]

www.wishgranted.com
www.silvergen.com
www.silverpuppy.com

If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy
website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual
functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BSÂ  ]
www.silverlungs.com

Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors
that can eventually corrode motor bearings.

..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your
emotions as a sales tactic.

Ode

At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. 
I found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend

in the west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your
opinions here and want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.

Thanks in advance,

Debbie




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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Ode Coyote]

 aww shucks.

...shuffles feet

But stay tuned for what's in the pipeline... you ain't seen nuthin yet

Ode



At 12:40 PM 1/20/2014 -0400, you wrote:

As always well said Ode - wishing you a wonderful 2014
manifesting all you wish for yourself;  my equipment still runs as it did 
from the very first day, now some 14 years ago

Research, knowledge experience and desire cannot be topped!!!
Cheers
Sandee🐬
Attitude is Everything
Alive Again Colloidal Silver drops & gel
Organo Gold Coffee infused with Reishe mushroom

On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ode Coyote
<odecoy...@silverpuppy.com> wrote:



  It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of
warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be 
circumvented with a heat gun ]

What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor,
[all to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish tank
air pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps which
is only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a $15 DC wall
power supply in a tiny fish tank.

Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.

 The three top deals on the market [IMO]

www.wishgranted.com
www.silvergen.com
www.silverpuppy.com

If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy
website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual
functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS  ]
www.silverlungs.com

Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors 
that can eventually corrode motor bearings.


..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your 
emotions as a sales tactic.


Ode

At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:

Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I
found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in
the west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions
here and want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.

Thanks in advance,

Debbie




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Re: CS>Question......

[Dan Nave]

Ole Bob wrote:

"The History of Colloidal Silver

"Silver has been used throughout history by the aristocracy
for plates and drinking vessels, and its use has been a
source of protection from the ravages that affect the mass of
humanity. Our pioneers would add a silver dollar to the milk
buckets to prolong the useful life. If you so choose you can add
a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon of milk and it
will not spoil for weeks.

"Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over
ninety US letters patents of silver compounds for medicinal
purposes. It was during 1917 that Dr . Henry Crooke conducted
2,000 tests proving that silver solutions would kill
almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver solutions could not be
patented, the Food and Drug Administration was moved by the
pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the American
Medical Association.

"For those who want an in-depth look at the history of
the use of silver for human well being I suggest that you visit
the Google.com web site and enter "colloidal silver ." Another
worthwhile web site is at www.silverinstitute.org in Washington
D. C. You will enjoy the www.silverlon.com web site as
their product has been approved by the FDA and the AMA.

"If the web site is selling a product be careful what you
believe about their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best.

"Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest
on the role that silver played in the building of the Burma road
during world War II . Shortly after construction began everything
stopped due to dysentery and diarrhea from the water
supply. An English doctor gathe red up a number ofD batteries
and silver coins, which he took to India.

"The coins were converted into wires about a meter long
and one was soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver
wires were placed in the Lister bags water supply with the
batteries on the outside. In just a few days the medical problem
disappeared and the road was completed.

"At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our
water supply was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff
water, and I was curious about the silver process. At my request
the director of the research laboratory had his personnel prepare
twelve petri dishes for bacterial culture growth.

"A water sample was divided into three parts. One part
was used to make a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the
untreated water, a second set was made for water that was stirred
with a silver wire for two minutes, and the third set was made
using water that had been stirred with two silver wires that were
soldered to the ends of a D battery.

"What follows are my personal experiences while investigating
the making of a silver product to be used for human
consumption.

"The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight
hours so that any bacteria present would grow. At the end of
the incubation period the samples were viewed with results as
listed on the table.

"Untreated Water:
1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth.
2/10 to 3/100 had successfully reduced growth.
4/1000 had five colonies of bacteria.

"Stirred Water:
1/1 had a few colonies.
1/10 had less than sample 1.
1/100 and 1/1000 were free of bacterial growth.

"Electrolyzed Water:
All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free.

I returned to the United States in 1957, and in 1997
while browsing the Internet I encountered a silver list moderated
by Professor Katherine Stevenson of the Jamestown College in
North Dakota, which I joined.

"I soon realized that every list member had their own
special way of making what they called colloidal silver, and
there was little interest to arrive at a standard process. There
upon started my investigation of the electrolytic process for
making a silver product."






On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Michael Brown wrote:

>
> Just curious, who was it that originally started making this stuff? My
> first experiments were the result of reading Bob Beck's literature. Don't
> re
> call anyone prior to that. Anyone know?   thanks, mlbrown
>

Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[ASL]

Hi Marshall,
Exactly how did you use the fish pump - did you use this to make colloidal
silver? Not too clear in what the pump device used for? Please clarify.
Thanks.

RaVen

Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Jasmine Mykal]

Is a stirrer of mixer necessary?

Thanks!

Teri and the Happy Hooligans
On Jan 20, 2014 9:30 AM, "Lena Guyot"  wrote:

> Hi Ode,
> True to form, you kindly share info: not for profit and sales, but simply
> to be of help.
> I haven't used the other two generators you listed first; I know they have
> excellent reviews.
>
> I can only add my review of the Silver Puppy, which has served me well for
> YEARS! It's easy, Lymie-brain-proof and makes excellent product. This last
> week was proof of that, after we were exposed to a beloved little child
> with a virulent URI. I dosed an oz. of CS at regular intervals, nebulized
> it into my lungs, and misted it up my nose whenever I felt any stuffiness
> or pressure. My husband, who was much less diligent, did it 'sometimes'.
> I'm fine, and he's counting out the days of a classic cold.
>
> Why suffer if you have a Silver Puppy at your service?
>
> Be well,
> Léna
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Sandra V George wrote:
>
> As always well said Ode - wishing you a wonderful 2014
> manifesting all you wish for yourself;  my equipment still runs as it did
> from the very first day, now some 14 years ago
> Research, knowledge experience and desire cannot be topped!!!
> Cheers
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is Everything
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver drops & gel
> Organo Gold Coffee infused with Reishe mushroom
>
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
>
>   It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of
> warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be
> circumvented with a heat gun ]
> What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor, [all
> to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish tank air
> pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps which is
> only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
> No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a $15 DC wall power
> supply in a tiny fish tank.
>
> Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.
>
>  The three top deals on the market [IMO]
>
> www.wishgranted.com
> www.silvergen.com
> www.silverpuppy.com
>
> If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy
> website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual
> functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS  ]
> www.silverlungs.com
>
> Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors
> that can eventually corrode motor bearings.
>
> ..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your
> emotions as a sales tactic.
>
> Ode
>
> At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>
> Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I
> found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in the
> west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions here and
> want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Debbie
>
>
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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Ode,
True to form, you kindly share info: not for profit and sales, but simply to be 
of help.
I haven't used the other two generators you listed first; I know they have 
excellent reviews. 

I can only add my review of the Silver Puppy, which has served me well for 
YEARS! It's easy, Lymie-brain-proof and makes excellent product. This last week 
was proof of that, after we were exposed to a beloved little child with a 
virulent URI. I dosed an oz. of CS at regular intervals, nebulized it into my 
lungs, and misted it up my nose whenever I felt any stuffiness or pressure. My 
husband, who was much less diligent, did it 'sometimes'. I'm fine, and he's 
counting out the days of a classic cold.

Why suffer if you have a Silver Puppy at your service?

Be well,
Léna


On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Sandra V George wrote:

> As always well said Ode - wishing you a wonderful 2014
> manifesting all you wish for yourself;  my equipment still runs as it did 
> from the very first day, now some 14 years ago
> Research, knowledge experience and desire cannot be topped!!!
> Cheers
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is Everything
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver drops & gel
> Organo Gold Coffee infused with Reishe mushroom
> 
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>   It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of 
>> warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be 
>> circumvented with a heat gun ]
>> What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor, [all 
>> to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish tank air 
>> pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps which is 
>> only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
>> No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a $15 DC wall power 
>> supply in a tiny fish tank.
>> 
>> Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.
>> 
>>  The three top deals on the market [IMO]
>> 
>> www.wishgranted.com
>> www.silvergen.com
>> www.silverpuppy.com
>> 
>> If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy 
>> website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual 
>> functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS  ]
>> www.silverlungs.com
>> 
>> Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors 
>> that can eventually corrode motor bearings.
>> 
>> ..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your 
>> emotions as a sales tactic.
>> 
>> Ode
>> 
>> At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>>> Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I 
>>> found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in the 
>>> west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions here and 
>>> want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Debbie
>> 
>> 
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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Sandra V George]

As always well said Ode - wishing you a wonderful 2014
manifesting all you wish for yourself;  my equipment still runs as it did from 
the very first day, now some 14 years ago
Research, knowledge experience and desire cannot be topped!!!
Cheers
Sandee🐬
Attitude is Everything
Alive Again Colloidal Silver drops & gel
Organo Gold Coffee infused with Reishe mushroom

> On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
> 
>   It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of warrantee 
> violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be circumvented 
> with a heat gun ]
> What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor, [all to 
> get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish tank air pump, 
> an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps which is only good 
> to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
> No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a $15 DC wall power 
> supply in a tiny fish tank.
> 
> Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.
> 
>  The three top deals on the market [IMO]
> 
> www.wishgranted.com
> www.silvergen.com
> www.silverpuppy.com
> 
> If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy 
> website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual functional 
> product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS  ]
> www.silverlungs.com
> 
> Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors that 
> can eventually corrode motor bearings.
> 
> ..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your 
> emotions as a sales tactic.
> 
> Ode
> 
> At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>> Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I 
>> found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in the 
>> west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions here and 
>> want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Debbie
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Tony Moody]

On 20 Jan 2014 at 11:16, Marshall wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Where to buy generator

> I have used an aquarium water pump for circulation for years. They are all
> plastic so no contamination.  Something like
> http://www.amazon.com/Aquatop-NP-302-Aquarium-Submersible-Pump/dp/B006K31W
> LC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1390234523&sr=8-2&keywords=aquarium+pump should
> work fine.
> 
> Marshall
> 

I use a tall "brewing" vessel. No stirring. The EIS drifts downwards off the 
electrode, fresh 
water is continually introduced to the electrodes by density exchange. 

OK,

Tony

Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Marshall]

I have used an aquarium water pump for circulation for years. They are 
all plastic so no contamination.  Something like 
http://www.amazon.com/Aquatop-NP-302-Aquarium-Submersible-Pump/dp/B006K31WLC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1390234523&sr=8-2&keywords=aquarium+pump 
should work fine.


Marshall

On 1/19/2014 5:57 PM, Neville wrote:
A bubbler is not the way I would go either.  If you know someone who 
is handy with their hands and a soldering iron you can make your own 
magnetic stirrer, all you need is….


1. Fan from an old computer
2. Magnet from hard drive of same computer
3. Adaptor converting mains AC power to 12v DC.  A variable converter 
is ideal and set on lowest setting that keeps stir bar spinning e.g. 4.5v

4. A jewellery box, they also have a draw for storing stir bar/s
5. A hole saw the same diameter as the fan to cut hole in the lid of 
the jewellery box
6. A square or round piece of plastic speaker cover cut from an old 
radio or something similar for sitting brew vessel on when affixed to 
the lid over that hole

7. A stir bar

8. An on/off switch fixed to the box and wired in the circuit is optional

Wire all the above together and you've got a magnetic stirrer that 
works perfectly.


N.

Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:43:26 -0800
From: devorah...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Where to buy generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Trem...do you use any kind of stirring device?
thanks,
Deb


On Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:21 PM, TREM  wrote:
Avoid bubblers.  Bad practice to use one.  It introduces nitrogen and 
dust.

Trem
*From:*Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:07 AM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* CS>Where to buy generator
Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. 
I found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend 
in the west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your 
opinions here and want her to get a good deal on something that is 
easy to use.

Thanks in advance,
Debbie




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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Deborah Gerard]

Okay...thanks for all the information...I think



On Monday, January 20, 2014 8:58 AM, Ode Coyote  
wrote:
  

  It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under
threat of warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW
, can be circumvented with a heat gun ]
What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor,
[all to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish
tank air pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps
which is only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted
out.
No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a
$15 DC wall power supply in a tiny fish tank.

Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.

 The three top deals on the market [IMO]

http://www.wishgranted.com/
http://www.silvergen.com/
http://www.silverpuppy.com/

If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey 
glitzy website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual
functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS 
]
http://www.silverlungs.com/

Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors
that can eventually corrode motor bearings.

..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your
emotions as a sales tactic.

Ode

At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:

Can the group advise where to buy a
generator with a built in bubbler. I found one for over $200.00 thought
that was too steep. Got a friend in the west coast really wanting to make
her own...I trust your opinions here and want her to get a good deal on
something that is easy to use.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Debbie 




 
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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[MaryAnn Helland]

Great post Ode!!  The basic truth of CS/EIS-making.  And even listed your own 
great product/website last.

Note to Debbie -- the three websites that Ode listed could be rearranged in any 
order -- all of them fine units made by people of integrity.
MA 



>
> From: Ode Coyote 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 7:21 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Where to buy generator
> 
>
>
>
>  It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under
threat of warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW
, can be circumvented with a heat gun ]
>What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor,
[all to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish
tank air pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps
which is only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted
out.
>No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a
$15 DC wall power supply in a tiny fish tank.
>
>Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.
>
> The three top deals on the market [IMO]
>
>www.wishgranted.com
>www.silvergen.com
>www.silverpuppy.com
>
>If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey 
glitzy website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual
functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS 
]
>www.silverlungs.com
>
>Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors
that can eventually corrode motor bearings.
>
>..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your
emotions as a sales tactic.
>
>Ode
>
>At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Can the group advise where to buy a
generator with a built in bubbler. I found one for over $200.00 thought
that was too steep. Got a friend in the west coast really wanting to make
her own...I trust your opinions here and want her to get a good deal on
something that is easy to use.
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Debbie
>
>>
> 
>   This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus 
> protection is active.  
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>
>

Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Ode Coyote]

  It that the huge black box of junk  that's sealed under threat of 
warrantee violation so no one can see what's in it? [which BTW , can be 
circumvented with a heat gun ]
What's in it is a small transformer, a rectifier bridge, a capacitor, [all 
to get DC from AC wall power] a partly dismantled  Walmart fish tank air 
pump, an LED and a resistor that limits current to 40 milliamps which is 
only good to prevent fires should the electrodes get shorted out.
No more process control than a "3 nines"  generator or a $15 DC wall power 
supply in a tiny fish tank.


Bubblers will mix everything that's in the air into your batch.

 The three top deals on the market [IMO]

www.wishgranted.com
www.silvergen.com
www.silverpuppy.com

If you want spend money, better  than most of the other pricey  glitzy 
website units [likely more marketing 'spit and polish' than actual 
functional product, but at least it's functional and not 98% BS  ]

www.silverlungs.com

Lab stirrers [aka magnetic stirrers] have no interface with water vapors 
that can eventually corrode motor bearings.


..avoid anyone that sells you your own fears or tries to manipulate your 
emotions as a sales tactic.


Ode

At 11:06 AM 1/19/2014 -0800, you wrote:
Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I 
found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in the 
west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions here and 
want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.


Thanks in advance,

Debbie



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Re: CS>Where to buy generator

[Victor Cozzetto]

I like thermal stirrers best. They are cheap to buy, easy to build, and
easy to mimic with existing heat sources, so you have lots of options
taking that route. I also find it an additional benefit that the gentle
warmth of a thermal stirrer maintains and/or quickens production;
especially during the winter months when the house is much cooler. I have
several silverpuppy devices running on three different types of thermal
stirrers, and they all run great.

Victor


On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:42 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> I just use the convection stirrer and it is fine.
> PT
>
>   --
>  *From:* Lena Guyot 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Where to buy generator
>
> The Silver Puppy sits on a little stand which activates a magnet stirrer
> in the jar of forming CS. Works well. Simple, easy CS generator for those
> without tools. L
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
>
> We are in our sixties and not as savvy...lol...I was lucky to even get her
> to listen to me about the CS...I have been using a bubbler for a long time
> should I throw out the stuff I have made with the bubbler?
> Simple is better just want to steer her in the direction of a unit that is
> all put together and ready to go.
> Thanks
>
>
>   On Sunday, January 19, 2014 5:57 PM, Neville 
> wrote:
>  A bubbler is not the way I would go either.  If you know someone who is
> handy with their hands and a soldering iron you can make your own magnetic
> stirrer, all you need is….
>
> 1. Fan from an old computer
> 2. Magnet from hard drive of same computer
> 3. Adaptor converting mains AC power to 12v DC.  A variable converter is
> ideal and set on lowest setting that keeps stir bar spinning e.g. 4.5v
> 4. A jewellery box, they also have a draw for storing stir bar/s
> 5. A hole saw the same diameter as the fan to cut hole in the lid of the
> jewellery box
> 6. A square or round piece of plastic speaker cover cut from an old radio
> or something similar for sitting brew vessel on when affixed to the lid
> over that hole
> 7. A stir bar
>
> 8. An on/off switch fixed to the box and wired in the circuit is optional
>
> Wire all the above together and you've got a magnetic stirrer that works
> perfectly.
>
> N.
> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:43:26 -0800
> From: devorah...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Where to buy generator
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Trem...do you use any kind of stirring device?
> thanks,
> Deb
>
>
>   On Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:21 PM, TREM  wrote:
>  Avoid bubblers.  Bad practice to use one.  It introduces nitrogen and
> dust.
>
> Trem
>
>
> *From:* Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:07 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>Where to buy generator
>
> Can the group advise where to buy a generator with a built in bubbler. I
> found one for over $200.00 thought that was too steep. Got a friend in the
> west coast really wanting to make her own...I trust your opinions here and
> want her to get a good deal on something that is easy to use.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>