Re: CSAmerican Silver Eagle
Hello, I've heard different things about the voltage in making silver. Trying to get overall opinion. Is there much difference in making with lower voltage and taking a longer time than making with higher voltage and faster? Thanks, Gary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 6:49:20 PM Subject: Re: CSAmerican Silver Eagle At the gun show last weekend, I found a coin dealer. I just bought the Canadian maple leaf since it's a beautiful coin and was in great condition. Pat You'll need 2 coins to make CS water. Also 4 - square 9v batteries, coupled in series to each other. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Phew, Ok Tony. I think I read you ok now. Thanks, Gary From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 1:24:49 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter Well ! , I was trying to do you the courtesy of a reply after having asked you for info ; before the phones went down here due to an approaching thunderstorm Along with my other regular stuff. I wasn't being terse to get you revved up; I was being quick so that I could get things done. OK, Tony On 9 Mar 2010 at 13:24, GARY ABEL wrote about : Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter What's that supposed to mean? An answer that short and terse leaves no room for reading your intent. It appears to have sarcasm but I may be wrong, so I would need you to say exactly so I'm not assuming wrong. I'm on this list to get a diversity of opinions and learn what I can. Thanks, Gary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Tony,
I make mine per Jim Meissner's instructions. I use one 9V battery with a 10K
ohm reisistor. I use two .999 silver boullion coins (alligator clips) and
distilled water only. Coins only in the water. I clean thinks up with white
distilled vinegar. I make about 22 oz at a time. In 12 hours the hanna primo
meter usually reads about 7ppm.
Thanks, Gary
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:53:09 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
I'm interested in how you make your EIS? Just for interests sake and so
that your questions can be answered here.
Are you using one of the regular machines on the market or a 'home made
one ?
Does the device have constant current control? and
Are you using distilled water?
OK,
Tony
On 8 Mar 2010 at 16:42, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled me
on making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good for
me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that
is specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos
to my knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes
are...'guesswork using a measuring instrument'. I got three meters and
none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the ballpark, which is
only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis that I got more
*total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters fool me
into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g. My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be,
or *need* to be? Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to
get you *in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the
*best* seat once you get *in* {using all that information about meters,
calculations etc etc available in the public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me
you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for
half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the
Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me
and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.
I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any
comments on this is appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
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www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
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Re: CSSilver Meter
What's that supposed to mean? An answer that short and terse leaves no room
for reading your intent. It appears to have sarcasm but I may be wrong, so I
would need you to say exactly so I'm not assuming wrong. I'm on this list to
get a diversity of opinions and learn what I can.
Thanks, Gary
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:14:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
Yes, Jim should answer all your questions.
OK,
Tony
On 9 Mar 2010 at 5:23, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Tony,
I make mine per Jim Meissner's instructions. I use one 9V battery with a
10K ohm reisistor. I use two .999 silver boullion coins (alligator
clips) and distilled water only. Coins only in the water. I clean thinks
up with white distilled vinegar. I make about 22 oz at a time. In 12
hours the hanna primo meter usually reads about 7ppm.
Thanks, Gary
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:53:09 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
I'm interested in how you make your EIS? Just for interests sake and so
that your questions can be answered here.
Are you using one of the regular machines on the market or a 'home made
one ?
Does the device have constant current control? and
Are you using distilled water?
OK,
Tony
On 8 Mar 2010 at 16:42, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled
me on making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good
for me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that
is specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!}
cos to my knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes
are...'guesswork using a measuring instrument'. I got three meters and
none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the ballpark, which is
only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis that I got
more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters fool
me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all
I need to know g. My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna
be, or *need* to be? Without laboratory analysis meters are only going
to get you *in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think
is the *best* seat once you get *in* {using all that information about
meters, calculations etc etc available in the public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told
me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo
for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked
the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it
to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the
Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm
making. Any comments on this is appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
Native American style flutes
Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
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CSSilver Meter
Hello, I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is appreciated. -Thanks Gary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ?
So with more surface area you will be making it faster? I use 1 troy oz coins with a little over half in the water and was told by someone that 6 of 12 gauge wire has more contact area. Is that correct? Thanks Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:34:10 AM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Um ... don't think so. When you flatten it out (wire, coin, anything), a lot of what used to be inside (and therefore not surface), will now be on the outside (and therefore be added to the surface area). Mathematically, consider a circular cross section of wire, with, e.g., a radius of one millimeter. The area is pi sq mm, or, roughly, 3 square millimeters. The circumference, which would be the surface area, is 2*pi, or roughly 6 millimeters. Now squish it down so that instead of a circle, you have a very thin rectangle that is 30 mm long by 1/3 mm thick. The area is still 1 square millimeter, but the circumference is now 60-2/3 mm, 10 times as much surface area as before. Dick From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 2:38:24 PM Subject: Re: CS Why flatten Silver wire ? Why flatten and weaken the silver wire? It will still have the same available surface Round or Flat. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ.
Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled me on
making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good for me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that is
specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos to my
knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a
measuring instrument'.
I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the
ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis
that I got more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters
fool me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g.
My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or *need* to be?
Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you *in* the ballpark,
*you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the *best* seat once you get *in*
{using all that information about meters, calculations etc etc available in the
public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you
needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half
that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it
wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it
basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be
able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is
appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
Native American style flutes
Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
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Re: CSSilver wire
Wow. Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants $36 I use silver bouillon coins .999 you can usually get them a couple dollars over going rate. Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips. Anyway, just wanted to point that out. Maybe there is more involved with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high. I guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine. Dick From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM Subject: CSSilver wire I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you please sent to me again. Thank you so much, Leslie
Re: CSSilver wire
I failed to mention the going rate on silver is per troy oz (15 make a lb rather than 16). Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire Wow. Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants $36 I use silver bouillon coins .999 you can usually get them a couple dollars over going rate. Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips. Anyway, just wanted to point that out. Maybe there is more involved with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high. I guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine. Dick From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM Subject: CSSilver wire I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you please sent to me again. Thank you so much, Leslie
Re: CSSilver wire
I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down. Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins? Thanks, Gary Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and cheaper) 99.9% pure. At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price directly for 99.99%. Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable. Are there cheaper places? Dick From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire Wow. Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants $36 I use silver bouillon coins .999 you can usually get them a couple dollars over going rate. Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips. Anyway, just wanted to point that out. Maybe there is more involved with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high. I guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine. Dick From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM Subject: CSSilver wire I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you please sent to me again. Thank you so much, Leslie
Re: CSSilver wire
I use two pencils with alligator clips sandwiched between and rubberbands around pencils to hold in place. Attach clips to coins and lay pencils across container with coins in waterand yes with the clips above the water line...only coins in the water. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:56:19 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire How would you suspend the coins in the water? The alligator clips should not touch the water, right? I haven't a clue. A photo would surely be helpful. :-) I have silver strips and have been wondering where I could get new ones without going to the place where I bought the generator. Any ideas on who else might have some for sale? I could probably just switch over to the wires, but which should I get? 10 or 12 gauge? I realize these are elemental questions, but I'm asking them anyway :-) Aldi On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down. Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins? Thanks, Gary Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and cheaper) 99.9% pure. At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price directly for 99.99%. Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable. Are there cheaper places? Dick From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire Wow. Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants $36 I use silver bouillon coins .999 you can usually get them a couple dollars over going rate. Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips. Anyway, just wanted to point that out. Maybe there is more involved with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high. I guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine. Dick From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM Subject: CSSilver wire I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you please sent to me again. Thank you so much, Leslie
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Wow. Sorry to hear that. You should. Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:05:09 PM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and vegetables. In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design. Big deal. --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com Subject: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I think you all know that I am not a sp mmer. I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO. I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic farmers. We need to show them that we do indeed care! Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts! http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8source=taf Thanks! And please, please, forward this to everyone you know A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver wire
Ok, I have to ask this question...how much difference does it make between .999 and .?. Seems minimal to me. Thanks, Gary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:40:32 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire I don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just Get 'er Done! A single coin will yield all you'll ever use. Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988. Each contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value. Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world. Chuck Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com) wrote: I don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of silver. You have to compare purity --- 999 vs You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost. I haven't seen anything in here yet that compares all that. Would like to. Dick - Original Message From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver wire I use Canadian Silver Coinage. I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips. Chuck If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost! On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote: I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire. I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me about making CS said they'd probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?
Yes, my apologies. I concur I need to relax. -Gary From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 8:01:37 PM Subject: Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS? Gary writes: Cripes What kind of an email is this. Drive one nuts trying to read it. Relax Gary. Neville's just being 'colorful.' It gets away from him sometimes. It's his sense of humor. This group spans the world, and a broad spectrum of personality types. Thankfully, you are not *required* to read him! There won't be a quiz. grin I wish you peace, Mike D. ...who has a sense of humor, too, despite being list owner From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:44:18 PM Subject: RE: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS? THE BLUE MAN...OH NO! Did someone say the blue man, Mr Lambert's stuck the bucket over his head again, quick, we need more people...[in ancient times...etc etc] LMAO. [Monty Python if you're not familiar}. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?
Yea. He needs to hang around a while and learn something From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 1:08:57 PM Subject: Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS? Golly, I can't believe that a person who is supposed to know about CS and is on this list, could actually *say* this! Sounds like Quackwatch! dee On 15 Feb 2010, at 16:37, John E. Stevens wrote: Not true, Maryann. One does have to be careful - check out the Blue-Man... John On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: If there's one thing that has been demonstrated, over and over on this list, it's that you don't have to be careful in the use of CS. Not the kind that we make. One should be careful of purchased CS, and one should be careful in the use of antibiotics, drugs, etc., but the hallmark of what we do here is can't hurt, might help. FWIW MA
Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?
Cripes What kind of an email is this. Drive one nuts trying to read it.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:44:18 PM
Subject: RE: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?
THE BLUE MAN...OH NO! Did someone say the blue man, Mr Lambert's stuck the
bucket over his head again, quick, we need more people...[in ancient
times...etc etc] LMAO. [Monty Python if you're not familiar}.
Sorry John, no excuse, just an uncontrollable involuntary psychotic reflex
action rather large grin, rolling eyes praps, slapping head even. I jumped
off me bike that quick I fell on the ground g - whilst brushing the dust off.
DO NOT take ONE scrap of information regarding this 'fairy tale' as an
indicator of ANYTHING. Hang on, praps you can, this information is useful for
knowing how NOT to make EIS {it's an ill wind that blows nobody *some* good}.
This is why we term it EIS, well I do anyway, that distinguishes what we make
as opposed to 'CS' which is generally silver...and any water and usually
anything else they can chuck in that water when making it...like this bloke did!
Don't give that media propoganda a 'nano', or a 'pico' second of thought or
consideration, it's absolute rubbish, pure fantasy, leave it outside,
I'd say BS if there weren't ladies present g.
OK, it's alright Boss, I've calmed down now, I'm back on the chain again. This
being 'Mr Nice Guy' is really starting to get tuff, I think I'm doing a
remarkable job of hiding it though whistling.
N.
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:37:04 -0500
Subject: Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?
From: jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Not true, Maryann. One does have to be careful - check out the Blue-Man...
John
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
If there's one thing that has been demonstrated, over and over on this list,
it's that you don't have to be careful in the use of CS. Not the kind that
we make. One should be careful of purchased CS, and one should be careful in
the use of antibiotics, drugs, etc., but the hallmark of what we do here is
can't hurt, might help. FWIW
MA
From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:16:47 AM
Subject: Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?
Neville:
The statement wasn't meant to shy folks off from using CSW. I've used it
for over ten years and will continue to do so. It's just to make folks aware
that CSW is a natural antibiotic and one must be careful in its use.
John
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
#I fear my last reply failed to go through so have mercilessly trimmed
and sending again.#
That's very impressive John, and I Thank You with considerable humility for
that insight into your world.
Now I feel a need to apologise for praps not making myself clearer, thus will
attempt to address that here.
I was actually referring to your blanket statement; Quote CSW will kill off
some of the good bacteria in the intestines if used daily. end quote.
Although it may be feasable for EIS to affect the bacteria, and as I
understand it, it's the flora in the lower intestine, I believe it would take
a considerable amount to do so, and also believe the 'type' of EIS ingested
plays a large part in that eventuality.
Blanket statements such as this, without suitable explanation accompanying
it, can have the potential for some to be unduly concerned about their EIS
intake, and could conceivably encourage them to shy away from involvement
with EIS, as they tend to do when they hear, or read, blanket statements
regarding argyria becoming evident with the consumption of 'CS?'. Some of
the populace, dare I say MOST?, are extremely gullible hence give very
little, or no consideration at all, to innumerable factors which come into
play with either of these questionable eventualities.
Myself, as with you seemingly, do not partake of any other 'substance?' My
daily ingested amount of EIS is the sole alternative I imbibe in other than
food and water for sustenance and survival. I have no doctor as such as I
can't remember the last time I visited one, but then knocking on the door of
60 I'm probly still considered but a 'pup' g.
I would hope the above explanation is suitable and clears up any
misconception which may have been apparent in my original posting.
N.
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:41:02 -0500
Subject: Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?
From: jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Neville:
I've been using CSW for about ten years.
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Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme
Hello, I missed the first part of this. I was wondering if you could let me know if I got this right and how much citric acid? One gallon CS tsp regular hydrogen peroxide (not food grade and only purified water as the inactive ing.-no stabilizers citric acid (how much?) Thanks, Appreciate your help. -Gary From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 12:16:06 PM Subject: Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme Greg, I use 1 tsp of 3 % hydrogen peroxide from the store to a gallon of CS. The hydrogen peroxide should list only purified water as the inactive ingredients and no stabizers. It has been determined that waiting 1 to 2 days before adding the hydrogen peroxide provides a more reliable result. There might be a limit on how long it will keep but I don't know it. You can use something other than Gatorade. It is the citric acid in the Gatorade that is important. You can use other drinks that contain citric acid I would imagine including fruit juices. I just add citric acid since I already have it for MMS. It isn't the use of Gatorade that others might not agree with but as to whether silver citrate is an effective adjunct to CS. CS already provides the benefits of both silver ions and silver particles. But I feel that the addition of some silver citrate provides a third and effective form of silver that boosts the overall effectiveness of the whole. Again, no proof only opinion. The 1 mg limit is a personal belief, for long term continuous use, and I just can't recommend amounts to others more than I would take myself. There are others that have and do use more. I may be too cautious but I like to stay within the amount the body can eliminate in a day when taking it daily for long term. For short term use you can take large amounts, as long as you give the body time to eventially excrete the silver. _ Steve N From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun Feb 14 10:17:09 2010 Subject: CSsilver for babesia and lyme _ Steve, I looked through everything you gave me, and I have a ton of follow-up questions. Here goes: - A couple of questions - how many drops of the 3% peroxide do I use? I think my container is holding approximately 16 ounces. Would that be about 2 drops? - Should I use regular hydragen peroxide from the drug store? - Once the peroxide goes in, is there a time frame for using it up? For example, does it need to be ingested within 24 hours before losing it's potency? - Why do you suggest that I should I wait two days after the silver is made to add peroxide? - Why is 1 mg a day of silver important to stay below? - 4 ounces of regular gatorade has about 28 grams of sugar. I need to avoid sugar for many reasons. Is there some sugar free substitue I can use like propel? Or is this risky? - You said some people disagree with the gatorade approach. Can you share why that is? Steve, thanks so much for your help! _
Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme
Thank you From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 4:05:07 PM Subject: Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme Gary, You got the H2O2 right but the citric acid is not mixed with the H2O2. The citric acid had to do with when using larger doses of CS daily for long periods of time. It was my suggestion to reduce the amount of CS under those circumstances and to take half of the CS mixed with Gatorade or something containing citric acid. If mixing with citric acid powder you only need a pinch for a couple ounces of CS. You would also take the CS with citric acid seperated in time from when you take the regular CS. - Steve N From: GARY ABEL gajo...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun Feb 14 12:32:31 2010 Subject: Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme Hello, I missed the first part of this. I was wondering if you could let me know if I got this right and how much citric acid? One gallon CS tsp regular hydrogen peroxide (not food grade and only purified water as the inactive ing.-no stabilizers citric acid (how much?) Thanks, Appreciate your help. -Gary From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 12:16:06 PM Subject: Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme Greg, I use 1 tsp of 3 % hydrogen peroxide from the store to a gallon of CS. The hydrogen peroxide should list only purified water as the inactive ingredients and no stabizers. It has been determined that waiting 1 to 2 days before adding the hydrogen peroxide provides a more reliable result. There might be a limit on how long it will keep but I don't know it. You can use something other than Gatorade. It is the citric acid in the Gatorade that is important. You can use other drinks that contain citric acid I would imagine including fruit juices. I just add citric acid since I already have it for MMS. It isn't the use of Gatorade that others might not agree with but as to whether silver citrate is an effective adjunct to CS. CS already provides the benefits of both silver ions and silver particles. But I feel that the addition of some silver citrate provides a third and effective form of silver that boosts the overall effectiveness of the whole. Again, no proof only opinion. The 1 mg limit is a personal belief, for long term continuous use, and I just can't recommend amounts to others more than I would take myself. There are others that have and do use more. I may be too cautious but I like to stay within the amount the body can eliminate in a day when taking it daily for long term. For short term use you can take large amounts, as long as you give the body time to eventially excrete the silver. _ Steve N From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun Feb 14 10:17:09 2010 Subject: CSsilver for babesia and lyme _ Steve, I looked through everything you gave me, and I have a ton of follow-up questions. Here goes: - A couple of questions - how many drops of the 3% peroxide do I use? I think my container is holding approximately 16 ounces. Would that be about 2 drops? - Should I use regular hydragen peroxide from the drug store? - Once the peroxide goes in, is there a time frame for using it up? For example, does it need to be ingested within 24 hours before losing it's potency? - Why do you suggest that I should I wait two days after the silver is made to add peroxide? - Why is 1 mg a day of silver important to stay below? - 4 ounces of regular gatorade has about 28 grams of sugar. I need to avoid sugar for many reasons. Is there some sugar free substitue I can use like propel? Or is this risky? - You said some people disagree with the gatorade approach. Can you share why that is? Steve, thanks so much for your help! _
Re: CSzapper
I went to the Andy Warhol museum in Pittsburgh. Interesting. There was one piece of art there he and a couple others made by peeing on a large sheet of (I think) copper. Some kind of metal anyway. It's been a while. From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 12:09:16 PM Subject: Re: CSzapper It wasn't Andy Warhol - it was Salvador Dali - Surrealist painter. John On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy Warhol is the guy who painted abstract stuff like clocks oozing over the edge of something. Just weird stuff. I think he would have enjoyed a shirt with a sleeve on the neck and an inside out zipper... :-) - Original Message From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:26:51 AM Subject: Re: CSzapper Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not sure. I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail. - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM Subject: Re: CSzapper What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol? - Original Message From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM Subject: Re: CSzapper Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches in 1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve didn't belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM Subject: Re: CSzapper Leslie, There are 12 inches in 1 foot. That should help with figuring it out... Maybe you prefer metric measurements. 1 inch is 2.54cm. Round it out to 2.5cm per inch. Yes, Zappers work fine. Dan On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote: Any experiences here on using a zapper? I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch. that baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one soon. Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks. Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
