Re: CS>Cataracts - Linseed oil is not Flax seed oil

[Grant]

Linseed oil from the hardware store is NOT the same thing as flax oil
from the Health Food Store.

Linseed oil is as I recall, POISON if eaten/ingested, while flax seed
oil can be healthfull if propery produced and stored.

The both come from flax, but the difference is how they are
manufactured.  I believe linseed oil is boiled, and changed chemically
in that way.

Regards
Grant


brick...@aol.com wrote:

  
  
  My dear dog has a "ripe" cataract
and I'm desperately trying to find a way to regain her sight. Pl
  My dog was also one eyed,
cataract covered her pupil. I bought regular linseed oil a gallon at
Home Base (a hardware store) in their paint section and filled a 1
ounce bottle with an eye dropper. Every day she got one drop in her eye
for at least two months. Her eyelids became crusty and I just stopped
treating her. I was astonished to see the cataract shrank to a pin
point and after several more weeks totally was gone. After seeing this
I also used linseed oil (Flaxseed oil) in my eyes. DR said I had a
bunch of small cataracts growing in both eyes. I had a yearly check up
about 5 weeks later and DR said NO CATARACTS. Since then about 5 years
ago the cataracts are coming back in my eyes, I now make my own CS so I
use CS + 10% DMSO in my eye wash cup, cataracts are still there but not
growing.
   
  When I treated my dog I did not
even refrigerate the linseed oil. I found that it goes rancid later so
when I treated myself I kept the bottle refrigerated. I guess that our
garage was cold enough when I treated my dog to act like a refrigerator.
  Brickey


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CS>Eyebath

[Grant]

I think I got one at Walgreens recently.
Grant

sol wrote:


Sandee,
 I'll keep an eye out for one (LOL!) but though I remember eye baths 
from my childhood, I haven't seen one for donkey's years.

Somebody must still sell them, though.
sol

Sandee George wrote:


Sol - I bathe my eyes three times per day in C.S. regardless of what is
going on, If you can find an eye bath let me know as I have been 
hunting to get

another one Thanks
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CS>Colloidal

[Grant]

Hi list:
   I personally have been taking c/s internally for approx 5 years 
now. I recieved  the following snip from another alt. medicine list I 
belong to
referring to dangers of taking  c/s internally. Can anyone of the great 
"Gurus"
we have on our list offer any comments.?? And  how much validity should 
one attach to the  this info..???


Anyone  Thanks ...Grant..
**
Snip..

David Hinkson explains it quite well when he says colloidal anything is not
ionic or angstrom in size and will lodge in the tissues eventually causing
problems. CS is good for killing bacteria on contact but then so is H2O2.


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CS>Dangers

[Grant]

I am having trouble with my email. So I appologize if there are multiple 
copies of this.

   Grant.

Hi list:
   I personally have been taking c/s internally for approx 5 years 
now. I recieved  the following snip from another alt. medicine list I 
belong to
referring to dangers of taking  c/s internally. Can anyone of the great 
"Gurus"
we have on our list offer any comments.?? And  how much validity should 
one attach to the  this info..???


Anyone  Thanks ...Grant..
**
Snip..

David Hinkson explains it quite well when he says colloidal anything is not
ionic or angstrom in size and will lodge in the tissues eventually causing
problems. CS is good for killing bacteria on contact but then so is H2O2.


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CS>Cs dangers..

[Grant]

Hi list:
I personally have been taking c/s internally for approx 5 years now. 
I recieved  the following snip from another alt. medicine list I belong to

referring to dangers of taking  c/s internally. Can anyone of the great "Gurus"
we have on our list offer any comments.?? And  how much validity should one 
attach to the  this info..???


Anyone 
 Thanks ...Grant..

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ionic or angstrom in size and will lodge in the tissues eventually causing
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CS>Just testing email

[Grant]

testing..


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Re: CS>Re: High Dosing of Potassium Chloride Studies

[Grant]

Me to
 Grant..

Nenah Sylver wrote:


silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote on 5/14/2004, 10:38 AM:

> Hoswever, I will, indeed, make an effort to inform you, Off-Line, as
> soon as practicalof the specific evaluations and their
> resultsof the three programs we are presently conducting.
> Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
> ---
> Harborne Research Foundation
   




 


Mr. Bradley -

Would you please inform me as well?  I am very interested.
--
Jodi Waldman Menard
   




I'm interested too. Please post it to the list.

Thanks.
Nenah


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Re: CS>Silver wire in Canada

[Grant]

Imperial Smelting and Refining Co. Of Canada Ltd..
Van  B.C.
1-800-663-0455..
( Or...silver Maple Leafs. .999 pure..From Coin Dealer, Bank, Or Royal 
Canadian Mint..)


   Grant..

Thora Rasmussen wrote:


I want to buy some silver wire and I am in Canada.  I want to buy some from
a Canadian supplier.  Can anybody point me to a place I can do this.

Thora
Invermere, BC, Canada
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CS>Off Topic But Confusing

[Grant]

I am on about 10 other groups.. (Yahoo Groups)..
I have not recieved email from any of them past 2 days.
Just checked my settings at Yahoo.. All seem ok.
Any one else having this problem?
Grant..


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Re: CS>Potassium article, with a question for Richard

[Grant]

Hmmm:
 My organic  Blackstrap Mol.  label says 175 mg/ serving.. ( Per 
100 gms).

  Quite a difference..
  Are there different  ingredients quantities in this stuff. ?
  Grant..

Wayne Fugitt wrote:


At 09:25 PM 3/8/04, you wrote:


Blackstrap Molassas has 660mg/tbs.  I take 2-3 tbs/day in juice with a
few other supplements.  Commnent?


   Sounds like a genius idea.   Readily available, economical, and 
tastes decent, after proper training of the taste buds.


   I used to make a drink of milk, blackstrap, and soy powder.   
Considering all the bad press for soy and milk, I should be dead by now.


  There must have been some valuable nutrients in all those ingredients.

  Wayne


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CS>cancel ALL FURTHER INFORMATION ON CS

[Grant Overby]

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2004 #129

PLEASE  CANCEL  FORWARDING  ANY  E-MAILS  TO  ME  ON  COLLOIDAL  SILVER.
REMOVE  MY  NAME  FROM  ALL  LISTS.

   THANK  YOU

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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2004 #123

[Grant Overby]

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:11 PM
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2004 #123

PLEASE  STOP  THESE  E-MAILS  FROM  COMMING  TO  grove...@hctc.com  and
geoverby.overbyfamily.com   I  HAVE  TRIED  EVERY  THING  YOU  HAVE  SENT
ME  AND  THEY  STILL  KEEP  COMMING.


   THANK  YOU

GRANT  E  OVERBY



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Re: CS>Using high voltage to neutralize venom from spider bites, etc.

[Grant]

Anyone ever thought about using an  "electric fencer".. Gives quite a 
jolt, operates  at
several thousand volts.. Must be very low current..  Is safe, otherwise 
our pastures would
be full of  dead cattle , critters, farmers , etc.. Pulsing is quite 
slow, mabey  1cps.?..
The one I have is  good for 10 miles of  fencing. I tried  "reluctantly" 
gripping onto it just
to  experience the effects.. You won't hang on long. Must be safe can 
buy at many hardware stores, off the shelf.
Not too expensive in the grand scheme of things. Run anywhere from  $50 
( Canadian) on up depending

on power rating.. The one I have is probably about  $125 ( Can.).
Just a thought.
    Grant..

 







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Re: CS>Sulphur

[Grant]

Does anyone know what minerals the Sulphur would  deplete??

  Grant..


Garnet wrote:


In very large amounts sulphur in your drinking water is harmful. Not
sure where that point is, but there are devices for removing the sulphur
from well water. It is a hazard for livestock on high sulphur content
wells.

Garnet

On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 21:06, Grant wrote:
 


You know:
 I have been reading for  " eons"  now that sulphur is beneficial.
 However I happen to be on well water which is  "  very high"
 in sulphur...   I drink it every day, and wonder if  the Sulphur is
perhaps  depleting something  in my body ??
 Any  opinions ??
       Grant..


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CS>Sulphur Water

[Grant]

Marshall:
What,  how  where info.  etc.??
 Tks.. Grant..


McClean chemfree iron/sulfur filter.

Marshall



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Re: CS>Sulphur

[Grant]

I believe it's Hydrogen Sulphide.. Rotten egg smell..For drinking I 
bubble Ozone through it a couple
gallons at a time.. Bubble for about  an hour.. Absolutely no smell or 
taste after that, although I think
the sulphur would still be in the water, just not dectable by taste or 
smell?? How are you removing

it from yours.??
    Grant..

Marshall Dudley wrote:


What form is the sulfur in?  If it is hydrogen sulfide, which smells like
rotten eggs, then that is pretty poisonous.

The well up at our ranch has loads of iron and sulfur.  Found a way to take
them both out that works extremely well if you are interested, and increases
the pH to slightly above 7  from around 3 or 4.

Grant wrote:

 


You know:
 I have been reading for  " eons"  now that sulphur is beneficial.
 However I happen to be on well water which is  "  very high"
 in sulphur...   I drink it every day, and wonder if  the Sulphur is
perhaps  depleting something  in my body ??
 Any  opinions ??
   Grant..

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Re: CS>Sulphur

[Grant]

Aha:
But there is no overwhelming  "  iron  " in our well, only 
overwhelming  " Sulphur"

Big time  " sulphur"
  Grant


colloidal.sil...@cox.net wrote:


Hi Grant :)

I would read up on the difference between "Inorganic-Sulphur" /
""Organic-Sulpher". I don't believe the body can
utilise "Inorganic-Sulpher", but The Organic version is readaly usable by
the body, because a plant has attached it to a organic molecule chain.  The
stuff comming out of your well is probly not doing you any more good, than
all the "Inorganic Iron" comming out of ours, but dammit, it sure tastes
like crap !

Regards,
Al

- Original Message -
From: "Grant" 
To: "Silver - List" 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: CS>Sulphur


 


You know:
 I have been reading for  " eons"  now that sulphur is beneficial.
 However I happen to be on well water which is  "  very high"
 in sulphur...   I drink it every day, and wonder if  the Sulphur is
perhaps  depleting something  in my body ??
 Any  opinions ??
   Grant..


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Re: CS>

[Grant]

Just  rookie Question:
                      So what happens  if the drum is not  " Intact "
                                                        Grant..

Marshall Dudley wrote:

  Have you tried 3% H2O2.  That suppose to work very well in the ear as long as
the drum is intact.

Marshall

M
  
mdev...@eskimo.com>

  
  

  






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Re: CS>Just a "snip" from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

Thank  you:
Paula...
I guess as you get to know the list members, 
then  you get to know who would

 be posting  " stuff  "
   Grant..
sol wrote:


Ah, Grant,
 Probably most people on this list are well aware of the "other side"
opinions on CS. When someone posts the quotes you did, though, I for
one thought you yourself believed them. Before getting into using and
making CS I did my homework, reading tons of pros and cons, so am well
aware of the negative stuff and mis-information.
 Thanks, though, for trying to inform.
paula
- Original Message - 
From: "Grant" 


 


Obviously  you  don't read very well. I  am sorry now that I
   


pasted
 


that  msg. from the other list..
These are not my  opinions!
I  was only hoping to enlighten  c/s members to  the sort of  other
opinions that  other people  put forward

   






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CS>Sulphur

[Grant]

You know:
 I have been reading for  " eons"  now that sulphur is beneficial.
 However I happen to be on well water which is  "  very high"
 in sulphur...   I drink it every day, and wonder if  the Sulphur is
perhaps  depleting something  in my body ??
 Any  opinions ??
       Grant..


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Re: CS>Just a "snip" from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

Obviously  you  don't read very well. I  am sorry now that I   pasted 
that  msg. from the other list..

These are not my  opinions!
I  was only hoping to enlighten  c/s members to  the sort of  other 
opinions that  other people  put forward

   So ,
  Go 
figure    ...Grant

Helena Hsu wrote:


Aloha Grant,

Where did you learn that information..?? 

You say you've been on this CS list only since October..??  Perhaps 
you might be interested in reviewing the archives.   
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html


This is also an excellent site for more info:  
http://www.silvermedicine.org/


Warmest Regards,
Helena

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At 06:46 PM 11/07/2003, you wrote:

--I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered 
carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC. 
 






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Re: CS>Just a "snip" from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

Not my words, just a snip posted from another list to let c/s members 
know  what others are saying..


Grant..

sol wrote:


Actually, it is ozone that is toxic, silver is not.
paula

- Original Message -
From: Grant <mailto:nes...@shaw.ca>
--I've been using H202 for maybe 3 to 4 years.  But I only
take baths every once in a while.  I guess I used to take
baths more.
--I recently got a medical ozone machine, and an oxygen
concentrator to go with it.  I've been considering this for a
couple of years at least!
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
--I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered
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CS>Just a "snip" from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

I was looking at this list a bit more today. (I'm new.)
I had not realized what a "new" group this is--- there is
not a lot of activity prior to October!
I read some of the messages from the beginning of October.
Lots of new people and lots of interesting and varied topics.

So, by way of introduction:
--I've been using H202 for maybe 3 to 4 years.  But I only
take baths every once in a while.  I guess I used to take
baths more.
--I recently got a medical ozone machine, and an oxygen
concentrator to go with it.  I've been considering this for a
couple of years at least!
--I am VERY familiar with mercury detox (which I see is
sometimes a topic here), and am an "expert" regarding the
mercury detox methods originated by Andy Cutler. I'm
also quite familiar with many biomedical issues/treatments
for autism/PDD/etc, and familiar with various mercury
and heavy metals issues.  (Here is my NEW website with
mercury detox information and resources:
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
--I think the use of SILVER for healing should
be considered
carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC.  I am
aware
that it can be effective against pathogens.  (Mercury is
also a good preservative, but I do NOT think it should be
used for this purpose!)  I can possibly dig up more info
on this if anyone is interested...
--I have also used bentonite clay off and on for some time.
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Re: CS>Zapper

[Grant]

So:
   How does  " brass "   electrodes fit into the scheme of 
things.. What is the chemical

make-up of this metal>??? Pretty inexpensive various thickness
and widths. Available at most hobby shops>???
   
       Grant..


Sharon wrote:


Art supply stores will have sheet copper for making etchings. try
http://www.danielsmith.com/


Also I believe the soft copper pipe is pretty pure copper. Not the 
had kind, but

the kind that is easy to bend.

One should be able to buy a few feet of large diameter tubing (3/4" 
will produce
about a 2 3/8" wide sheet), cut it to length, and cut it lengthwise. 
Then open

it up to make a sheet out of it.

Marshall

Al Davis wrote:


 Electrical copper wire is 99.95% minimum purity.  Cheap, too.

 Do a search for 99.95% copper and you'll get lots of references.

 Al Davis

 > I keep trying to think of something that's made out of pure 
copper and I'm

 > just not getting there.

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Re: CS>Re: DMSO in Canada

[Grant]

As an afterthought I think maybe they would ship to Canada. If you go 
through the motions on their
site as if you were ordering, I don't see anywhere  that they are asking 
for a  prescription, their drop down
shipping list has all the Canadian provinces on it. They  do ask what 
breed of horse you own, anyone know  what

a reasonable answer to that might be??
   
Grant..


Grant wrote:


I would be interested in knowing if they will ship to Canada ..???
   Grant :-\

silversurfer1952 . wrote:


Hi Lisa,

I'm wondering if they will ship DMSO to just anyone... guess I'll 
contact them and ask.  Also, I'm not that familiar with the product 
and am curious what "harmless when used with the proper precautions" 
means.  Can someone elaborate on what the proper precautions are when 
using DMSO?


Thanks very much.
Ellle



From: "Lisa MacDonald" 




I apologize if this was already posted - I sent this info earlier 
but it didn't seem to show up on the website archives.
I found a cheap source of DMSO in Ontario from Peak Equine - 
http://peakequine.com

$9.95 Can / 16oz, $44.95 Can/4L
Shipping is - 16 oz would be about 5.75 and the gallon would be


about 8.00.





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Re: CS>Re: DMSO in Canada

[Grant]

I would be interested in knowing if they will ship to Canada ..???
   Grant :-\

silversurfer1952 . wrote:


Hi Lisa,

I'm wondering if they will ship DMSO to just anyone... guess I'll 
contact them and ask.  Also, I'm not that familiar with the product 
and am curious what "harmless when used with the proper precautions" 
means.  Can someone elaborate on what the proper precautions are when 
using DMSO?


Thanks very much.
Ellle



From: "Lisa MacDonald" 



I apologize if this was already posted - I sent this info earlier but 
it didn't seem to show up on the website archives.
I found a cheap source of DMSO in Ontario from Peak Equine - 
http://peakequine.com

$9.95 Can / 16oz, $44.95 Can/4L
Shipping is - 16 oz would be about 5.75 and the gallon would be


about 8.00.




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Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg

[Grant]

Ok boss, you are right, (slip of the decimal place) . Nevertheless it's 
not practical what's trying to be done with the tablets..

  Grant..

Marshall Dudley wrote:

How do you get that? 10/10,000 = 1/1000 = .001 of a tablet.  You are 
off by a factor of 10.


Marshall

Grant wrote:


Well
  A milligram is one thousands of a gram.  (   mg  )
   A microgram is one millionth of a gram.  (  mcg  )

  So  1 mg  =  1000 mcg
   So then 10 mg  = 1mcg.

So if  she is taking  10 mcg and you have only 10 mg 
tablets then you would have to take  .010 of one of
your tablets  .. Yes that is  a decimal before the 
first zero.. Really  not a practical thing to do..


  Grant... :-) 


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kittykat wrote:


humI guess I should buy different pills.  :) Debbie

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley <mailto:mdud...@execonn.com>
To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg
 Take 1/1000 of a tablet.

Marshall

kittykat wrote:


Ok you scientific minds out here.  To you this would be very
simple.  I am not good in math.  I have 10 mg tablets of
Vanadium and Marshalee uses 10 mcg daily. How would I take my
tablets to equal what she takes?  Or even can I? Thank you in
advance! debbie

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS>Blood pressure

 
 Marshalee - could you tell what amounts of Potassium

and Vanadium you take? Thank youDebbie Sure! 10 mcg of
Vanadium and 80 mg of Potassium.Marshalee



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Re: CS>CS>OT - mg/mcg

[Grant]

Well
              A milligram is one thousands of a gram.  (   mg  )
               A microgram is one millionth of a gram.  (  mcg  )

              So  1 mg  =  1000 mcg
               So then     10 mg  = 1mcg.
        
                So if  she is taking  10 mcg and you have only 10 mg tablets
then you would have to take  .010 of one of 
                your tablets  .. Yes that is  a decimal before the first
zero.. Really  not a practical thing to do..

                                                      Grant... :-) 

                                                *
kittykat wrote:
  
  
 
  
 
  humI guess I should buy different
pills.   :)
 
   
 
  Debbie
 
   
  
-
Original Message - 
   
From:
   Marshall
   Dudley 
   
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com 
   
Sent:
Friday, October 10, 2003 2:48PM
   
Subject:
Re: CS>CS>OT -  mg/mcg
   


Take 1/1000 of a tablet.
Marshall
kittykat wrote:
 
   Ok you scientific
minds out here.  To  you this would be very simple.  I am not good in
math.  I have 10  mg tablets of Vanadium and Marshalee uses 10 mcg  
   daily. How would I take
my  tablets to equal what she takes?  Or even can  I? Thank you in  advance! debbie  
   
  
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From:
   mamapug
   
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com
   
Sent:
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:15PM
   
Subject:
Re: CS>CS>Bloodpressure
  
 

   
 Marshalee - could you tell what amounts
of Potassium and  Vanadium you take? Thank youDebbie Sure! 10 mcg of Vanadium
 and 80 mg of Potassium.Marshalee
  

  







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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency

[Grant]

I don't see how this would be possible.. The inductors and caps used in 
magnetic pulser are so massive
(relitavely speaking) That they simply would load down the cct. at rife 
freqs..The caps would not be able to
charge and discharge  no-where near fast enough. Neither would the 
inductors be able to collapse

the flux density fast enough..
   Grant..
   




On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo, Robb Allen wrote:

Hi..I was wondering.has anyone attempted to make a
magnetic pulser that operates at rife frequency's?
It seems that it would be very effective and could overcome
alot of the tissue penetration problems.perhaps people are
already doing this?anyone know?.Robb






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CS>Testing email

[Grant]

Testing email

gm..




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Re: CS>spam filter

[Grant]

Yep:
   Been using for about 1 year now.. works great..

   Grant..

TJ Garland wrote:


Is anyone using this?  www.mailwasher.net

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Re: CS>Can CS be used to help Detoxify a well

[Grant]

You should be able to do the same thing for a few dollars with Household 
Bleach. I had to do the

same thing about 10 years ago.
   I dont remember the exact procedure, but basically you dump a 
few gallons of bleach down
the well. Then you run the water through your household pipes  till you 
smell the bleach coming out

the taps. Then you let it sit for  several hours. Then flush it out..
  
   
   Grant..



ALAN CLOUGH wrote:

Hi a  friend   is in the process of  selling their house  and  in 
testing the drilled 250' deep well  it has come up with a  higher than 
acceptable level of  bacteria .  A well company is planning to shock 
the well  with Chlorine which will cost them  around $300 dollars .  I 
wonder if  there is a way that  a few gallons of  CS could have be 
used ?   .   They think that the well might have  got contaminated by 
surface water that  got in when the  well head casing  was damaged by 
a riding lawn mower  and later repaired . I checked the  archives but 
the  post that came up about polluted wells seem to be suggesting 
using some sort of water treatment  filters.   Anyone have 
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Re: CS>Freezing water to purify it for C S making !

[Grant]

So would that mean then if you took the top 6" of ice off of a 20 ft. 
deep lake, the ice would be pure..??

   Grant..

Marshall Dudley wrote:

>From what I understand, with sea water, if you do not freeze more 
than 10% or so of it, the ice will be essentially as pure as distilled 
water. The problem is any entrapped water, and contamination.  Thus it 
is best if you can put cold tubes into the water, and have it freeze 
to the tubes, producing a solid slick sheet of ice over the tubes, 
then rinse with pure water, and melt.


When frozen slowly, like in a freezer, the ice crystals form 
throughout the water, and are hard to seperate without contamination.


Marshall

twll wrote:

A few years ago I got something in the mail for freezingwater to make 
it pure.It sounded to good to be true so I discarded it.Anyway what 
would the PPM be for waterthat was purified like that if it worked 
like its suppose to?






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Re: CS>Re where we are from

[Grant]

Grant Canada..

Reinhard Stanjek wrote:

Reinhard Stanjek in Canada!






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Re: CS>Conversion Table

[Grant]

Rod:
u/siemens is a measure of "Conductance"...
Ohms or megohms or kilohms etc is a
measure of resistance.. One is
the reciprocal of the other.
So seems to me 1 u/s  = 1megohm
So 18.2 Mohms would be 1/18.2 = 
0.055u/s..Ofcourse this only holds true
for u/s per cubic cm...Or ohms per cubic 	cm ..I expect the technical 	  "Gurus"  will 
jump all over this..


Hope it makes sense.. Grant..

RodStevenson wrote:
> Grant thanks for the reply, but now I'm a little confused.
> I thought that ms/cm was the unit of resistance, not it's reciprocal and
> that  Mw (Megohms) was the unit of conductance? (or is it the other way
> around)
> Perhaps I should have made it easier on myself and asked what 18.2
> Megohms is in microsiemens. What I really wanted to know was how my (so
> far 3 stage) water treatment compares to lab' water polishing systems
> that I've seen on the web, costing several thousand US Dollars.
> Regards
> Rod Stevenson.
>





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Re: CS>Conversion table

[Grant]

Rod:
u/s is the reciprocal of resistance..
1 u/s   =   1 mohm
2u/s   = 500 kohm...
4u/s   = 250 kohm..  And so on..

gm..

RodStevenson wrote:

Hi List,
Does anyone out there, know the conversion rate between us/cm and 
megohms? Lately, Ive been reading about lab grade DW, the figure they 
give for "critical procedures" is 18.2 Mw, and I would like to know just 
how my home DW rates against this. I've found that  0.1 us/cm = 10 Mw, 
but I'm unsure about any conversion rate. Any ideas?

TIA
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Re: CS>HVAC CS making- Canadian maple leaf electrodes

[Grant]

Reid:
Been doing that for some time now.. Works for me.
Canuk Leafs, 100v dc.. Current control..
I think I figured out one time that
a maple leaf is approx 4 sq in. surface area.

Grant..

Reid Harvey wrote:

CSers,
While checking options for new systems and electrodes I'd like to know
if anyone can think of a good reason why Canadian Maple Leaf dollars
wouldn't work with a 110DC HVAC generator.  I would simply suspend the
coins with pure silver wire.

I hope I am correct in assuming these coins to be about the same size
and shape as U.S. standing liberty dollars (2 mm. thickness by 4 cm.
diameter). This would give them about 2500mm sq. surface are, about the
same area as the electrodes strips I've used upto now.

What do you think?
Reid



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Re: CS>Cough/Was Empty Stomac

[Grant]

Val:
		I have the " exact same symptoms".. Used to hit a few times a year. Went 
for one year without coming down, and I thought it was over with, but 
got it agn.. I am just now getting over it, had for 5 weeks this 
time..It usually lasts for 3 weeks to 2 months. I took mega c/s this 
time around, also nebulized c/s, but nothing seems to aleviate the 
dammed thing it just seems to run its own course at it's own time..


    Grant..
*   

Val Q wrote:


Dear Wayne and Jack,



Why I am especially wondering now is that I have had a chronic cough for 
a couple of months (mostly a lying-down-at-night thing)and I need to 
clear my throat a lot (that's been forever, it seems). But the last week 
it has gotten much worse.  Sort of sounds like a bronchial thing.  I 
feel sort of insulted because I keep thinking with CS I shouldn't get 
sick and the most sick I have gotten in a year is for an occasional day 
when I just feel "ick."  Then it is completely gone next morning.  
Compare it to 4 times the year before when I never used CS and got laid 
up for about a week at a time.  I don't feel "sick" with this cough; 
sometimes I just feel exhausted and a little crummy but not enough to 
send me to bed...and this is not all the time either.


Since my mother just discovered she has lung cancer, I guess my head 
gets carried away with itself too.


Anyway, I was just wondering...

Thanks again,
Valerie


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Re: CS>TDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

[Grant]

Ok Thanks Trem:
I guess I have been short changing myself then?.. I have been taking
final reading, subtract initial water reading and then dividing by
2...Quite a substantial difference from your method  Hu??

Grant..

Trem wrote:
> 
> Hi Grant,
> 
> We take the final reading, subtract the initial water reading and multiply
> by 1.2.  For more accuracy it's best to wait 24 hours because the ionic
> content will drop during that time.
> 
> I usually just take the initial PWT reading right after the unit shuts off
> and it is plenty close enough without having to wait and then apply the
> correction factor.
> 
> Remember, this isn't rocket science and close is plenty good enough for most
> folks.
> 
> Trem
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Grant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>TDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM
> 
> > Sorry Trem:
> > What I meant was what is final formula for the "PWT", not
> > the TDS-1..
> > Tks  Grant..
> >
> > Trem wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Grant,
> > >
> > > I really don't know since we will not sell them.  I bought one years ago
> > > thinking it might be the unit to use and provide to our customers but
> soon
> > > after discovered the PWT meter was the unit of choice.
> > >
> > > I just took the average of 3 PWT readings of some CS that measured 20 uS
> > > (water was 1.6 uS so total PPM was 22) and measured it with the TDS-1.
> It
> > > measured 7 so guess I would multiply by 3 to get the same PPM as the
> PWT.
> > >
> > > Of course I have no idea if the TDS is reading correctly but if it is
> then
> > > the correction factor would apply to anyone else's TDS meter when
> measuring
> > > CS with the same ionic content as our CS.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Trem
> > >
> > > - Original Message -----
> > > From: "Grant" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:20 PM
> > > Subject: CS>TDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM
> > >
> > > > Hi Trem:
> > > > `So what's the final formula for the TDS 1???
> > > > `Is it half the pwt reading plus 20%.??
> > > > Tks.. Grant..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ***
> > > > Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean
> > > > but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for
> > > > several reasons as pointed out on our website.  Also, you do NOT
> divide
> > > > by half when using the PWT.  You ADD to the reading.  In the case of
> our
> > > > generators you add 20%.  Hanna is right in telling you to cut the
> > > > reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals
> in
> > > > the water.  However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the
> > > > content of CS to determine what silver content we have.  In this case
> > > > the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS.  And that reading is
> > > > always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter
> > > > will NOT read the colloidal portion.  Therefore one has to add to the
> > > > reading to get the total PPM.  The correction factor will be the
> > > > difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic.
> We
> > > > have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it
> > > > is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention
> is
> > > > the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full
> > > > scale.  Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM.   Since
> the
> > > > PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's
> + -
> > > > 2 PPM.  And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the
> > > > TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of
> > > > the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT.   The PWT is the best
> > > > choice hands down for measuring PPM.T
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Re: CS>TDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

[Grant]

Sorry Trem:
What I meant was what is final formula for the "PWT", not
the TDS-1.. 
    Tks  Grant..

Trem wrote:
> 
> Hi Grant,
> 
> I really don't know since we will not sell them.  I bought one years ago
> thinking it might be the unit to use and provide to our customers but soon
> after discovered the PWT meter was the unit of choice.
> 
> I just took the average of 3 PWT readings of some CS that measured 20 uS
> (water was 1.6 uS so total PPM was 22) and measured it with the TDS-1.  It
> measured 7 so guess I would multiply by 3 to get the same PPM as the PWT.
> 
> Of course I have no idea if the TDS is reading correctly but if it is then
> the correction factor would apply to anyone else's TDS meter when measuring
> CS with the same ionic content as our CS.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Trem
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Grant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:20 PM
> Subject: CS>TDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM
> 
> > Hi Trem:
> > `So what's the final formula for the TDS 1???
> > `Is it half the pwt reading plus 20%.??
> > Tks.. Grant..
> >
> >
> >
> > ***
> > Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean
> > but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for
> > several reasons as pointed out on our website.  Also, you do NOT divide
> > by half when using the PWT.  You ADD to the reading.  In the case of our
> > generators you add 20%.  Hanna is right in telling you to cut the
> > reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals in
> > the water.  However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the
> > content of CS to determine what silver content we have.  In this case
> > the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS.  And that reading is
> > always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter
> > will NOT read the colloidal portion.  Therefore one has to add to the
> > reading to get the total PPM.  The correction factor will be the
> > difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic.   We
> > have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it
> > is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention is
> > the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full
> > scale.  Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM.   Since the
> > PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's + -
> > 2 PPM.  And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the
> > TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of
> > the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT.   The PWT is the best
> > choice hands down for measuring PPM.T
> >
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CS>TDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

[Grant]

Hi Trem:
`So what's the final formula for the TDS 1???
`Is it half the pwt reading plus 20%.??
Tks.. Grant..



***
Hi James, I don't mean to jump in when you addressed the post to Dean
but the fact is that the PWT reads CS much better than the TDS-1 for
several reasons as pointed out on our website.  Also, you do NOT divide
by half when using the PWT.  You ADD to the reading.  In the case of our
generators you add 20%.  Hanna is right in telling you to cut the
reading in half IF you're measuring dissolved solids such as minerals in
the water.  However, we as CS users are interested in measuring the
content of CS to determine what silver content we have.  In this case
the meter only measures the ionic portion of CS.  And that reading is
always less than the total amount of silver content because the meter
will NOT read the colloidal portion.  Therefore one has to add to the
reading to get the total PPM.  The correction factor will be the
difference between how much of the mix was colloidal versus ionic.   We
have had our CS analyzed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and it
is generally always the same ratio. Another thing I forgot to mention is
the fact that the TDS-1 has an accuracy tolerance of + - 2% of full
scale.  Since the TDS-1 reads from 0-999 that's + - 20 PPM.   Since the
PWT reads from 0-99.9 and has the same percentage of accuracy that's + -
2 PPM.  And the PWT gives you a decimal point in the reading while the
TDS-1 reads in whole numbers only. I hope this helps clear up some of
the controversy about the TDS-1 versus the PWT.   The PWT is the best
choice hands down for measuring PPM.T


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Re: CS>cs color

[Grant]

Contamination, could be from soap residue..
gm..

sylvie hargraft wrote:
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> I'm not sure if I'm seeing things here. The cs I made a few days ago is
> showing a VERY slight pinkish tint. What is that??
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CS>L.E.D. Therapy..

[Grant]

Question for the L.E.D. Experts. ( Or Anyone)..

If I add a high magnification, adjustable focus lens assembly
to an LED array, will this  increase the " PENETRATION " of the LED
waves??.. Or will it only increase the optical, visual effect.??  Reason
I am asking is I picked up just such a magnification unit at flea market
recently, and thought of using it this way.

    Thanks.. Grant..


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Re: CS>pure distilled water

[Grant]

Sylvie:
The process of steam distilling removes enough contaminants
(Minerals)  etc. to make water acceptable..
Acceptable , according to the List Gurus is a Conductivity reading 
BELOW 2 u/s.. ( u/s ) is a measure of conductivity as measured with a
PWT... ( PWT ) is an electronic instrument for measuring Conductivity..
The less the conductivity of the water the better, means less GUNK etc.
in the water, less PPM of foreign material the better..
Grant..

sylvie hargraft wrote:
> 
> When your distille your water, what removes the minerals??
> What is a pwt?
> Sylvie
> 
> Original Message Follows
> From: Grant 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>pure distilled water
> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:13:11 -0700
> 
> Sylvie:
> Hi there I guess I can throw my 2 cents worth in. I was using
> a product made by Continental Packaging out of Richmond B.C. It was ok..
> Available at Central drugs.. They jacked the price up, so I bought a
> Sears Distiller, and now make my own.. Thrifty foods also sells reverse
> osmosis in bulk, and it usually measures less than 2u/s
> so it would be ok also and cheap..I used it a few times and it seemed
> ok..If you had a PWT you could try different brands and you would know
> what was acceptable..
> Grant..
> 
> sylvie hargraft wrote:
>  >
>  > If there are any canadians on the list, I would like to know what brand
> of
>  > distilled water you are using to make your cs, as well as where you get
> it.
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Re: CS>pure distilled water

[Grant]

Sylvie:
Hi there I guess I can throw my 2 cents worth in. I was using
a product made by Continental Packaging out of Richmond B.C. It was ok..
Available at Central drugs.. They jacked the price up, so I bought a
Sears Distiller, and now make my own.. Thrifty foods also sells reverse
osmosis in bulk, and it usually measures less than 2u/s
so it would be ok also and cheap..I used it a few times and it seemed
ok..If you had a PWT you could try different brands and you would know
what was acceptable..
Grant..

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> If there are any canadians on the list, I would like to know what brand of
> distilled water you are using to make your cs, as well as where you get it.
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Re: CS>OT:Notice of Pc Problems.

[Grant]

Hi Brooks:
I would be interested in what the computer Tech finds out?..
Just a natural curiosity about those things..
Thanks.. Grant..

Brooks Bradley wrote:
> 
> 
>   I have some
> strange problem and am unable to resolve it-no detectable viruses;
> slow response and intermittent acknowledgement of browser by the
> ISP..after the ISP has connected (neither Explorer or Netscape are
> recognized by the server connectionvery aggravating);
> I am at my wits end and am taking it to
> 
> Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley
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Re: CS>CS taste

[Nick Grant]

Hi there.  Between 2 and 3.  My MIL says hers in the same.

Tracy

- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2002 09:36
Subject: CS>CS taste


> Russ said,
> "WOULD EVERYONE WHO HAS ACCURATELY DETERMINED THEIR
> CS's PPM, PLEASE DENOTE IT AND RANK ITS FLAVOR
> INTENSITY ON A SCALE OF 1-5?  Thanks!
> 
> 1 - barely perceptible at all
> 2 - definite, but mostly as an aftertaste
> 3 - definite, metallic flavor
> 4 - strong, metallic flavor
> 5 - very metallic; bitter
> 
> I had my CS tested by Ole Bob. He declared it to be
> 12.3 ppm with almost no Tyndale. It is crystal clear
> with no discernable flavor.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
> Metabolic Solutions Institute
> RR1  314 Carleton Rd
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Re: CS>CS taste

[Nick Grant]

Oops, sorry Terry - it's between about 6-10ppms.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2002 09:36
Subject: CS>CS taste


> Russ said,
> "WOULD EVERYONE WHO HAS ACCURATELY DETERMINED THEIR
> CS's PPM, PLEASE DENOTE IT AND RANK ITS FLAVOR
> INTENSITY ON A SCALE OF 1-5?  Thanks!
> 
> 1 - barely perceptible at all
> 2 - definite, but mostly as an aftertaste
> 3 - definite, metallic flavor
> 4 - strong, metallic flavor
> 5 - very metallic; bitter
> 
> I had my CS tested by Ole Bob. He declared it to be
> 12.3 ppm with almost no Tyndale. It is crystal clear
> with no discernable flavor.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
> Metabolic Solutions Institute
> RR1  314 Carleton Rd
> Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
> 902-584-3810 voice
> 413-826-7641 fax service
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Re: CS>Virgin Coconut oil vs. Copra

[Nick Grant]

When you and Ivan have come to a decision, let us know.  :)  I thought I was
doing well putting CN cream in my cereal.  it is one of the few "milks" I
can tolerate.  Bummer if it's no good.

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Catherine Creel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 17:55
Subject: CS>Virgin Coconut oil vs. Copra


> What is Virgin Coconut Oil?
> Virgin Coconut Oil can only be achieved by using fresh coconut meat or
what
> is called non-copra (see below for a definition of copra). Chemicals and
> high heating are not used in further refining. There are currently two
main
> processes of manufacturing Virgin Coconut Oil:
>
> 1. Quick drying of fresh coconut meat which is then used to press out the
> oil. Using this method, minimal heat is used to quick dry the coconut
meat,
> and the oil is then pressed out via mechanical means.
>
> 2. Wet-milling. With this method the oil is extracted from fresh coconut
> meat without drying first. "Coconut milk" is expressed first by pressing.
> The oil is then further separated from the water. Methods which can be
used
> to separate the oil from the water include boiling, fermentation,
> refrigeration, enzymes and mechanical centrifuge.
>
> The method which is used by Mt. Banahaw Health Products Corporation in the
> Philippines is fermentation. The coconut milk expressed from the freshly
> harvested coconuts is fermented for approximately 48 hours. During this
> time, the water separates from the oil. The oil is then slightly heated
for
> a short time to remove moisture, and filtered. The result is a clear
coconut
> oil that retains the distinct scent and taste of coconuts. This is a
> traditional method of coconut oil extraction that has been used in the
> Philippines for hundreds of years. Laboratory tests show that this is a
very
> high quality coconut oil, with the lauric acid content often being over
53%.
> This oil is not mass produced, but made by hand just as it has been done
for
> hundreds of years. Since we live in the community where the coconuts grow,
> we personally guarantee that the best organic coconuts available are used
in
> producing this Virgin Coconut Oil, and that no chemicals whatsoever are
used
> in the growing or processing of the coconuts.
>
> How is Virgin Coconut Oil different from other coconut oils?
>
> Most commercial grade coconut oils are made from copra. Copra is basically
> the dried kernel (meat) of the coconut. It can be made by: smoke drying,
sun
> drying, or kiln drying , or derivatives or a combination of these three.
If
> standard copra is used as a starting material, the unrefined coconut oil
> extracted from copra is not suitable for consumption and must be purified,
> that is refined. The standard end product made from copra is RBD coconut
> oil. RBD stands for refined, bleached, and deodorized. Both high heat and
> chemicals (e.g. solvent extractions) are used in this method.
>
> RBD oil is also often hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated. Hydrogenated
> oils have been shown to increase serum cholesterol levels which contribute
> to heart disease.
>
> http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/what_is_virgin_coconut_oil.htm
>
>
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Re: CS>Priorities (coconut oil)

[Nick Grant]

That sounds ominous.  Copra.  Has a nasty ring...:)  What is it?

Tracy


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From: "Catherine Creel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 19:46
Subject: Re: CS>Priorities (coconut oil)


> Hi Tracy,
> 
> < coconut
> and water and a preservative of course.>>
> 
> 
> Good!  But the preservative...oy vey.  Also, you may want to ask the
> company
> how it's processed.  My understanding is most companies use copra.
> 
> Catherine
> 
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Re: CS>Priorities (coconut oil)

[Nick Grant]

The brand is Trident, and it is not sweetened, or homogenised.  Just coconut
and water and a preservative of course.

Tracy

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From: "Catherine Creel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 14:57
Subject: Re: CS>Priorities (coconut oil)


> < oil,
> in that it helps balance cholesterol, etc?>>
>
>   More than likely it's sweetened and probably
> commercially processed from copra (www.coconut-info.com)
> It loses its benefits this way.
>
> Catherine
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Re: CS>Priorities (coconut oil)

[Nick Grant]

I use coconut cream everyday in my cereal.  Is this the same as coconut oil,
in that it helps balance cholesterol, etc?

I also have coconut oil, but seems unnatural to just eat it or put it into a
smoothie.I have been programmed.

Tracy

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From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 18:57
Subject: Re: CS>Priorities (coconut oil)


> Kevin writes:
>
> > Notice #5; coconut oil is a no-no here, yet Mary Enig et al champions it
as
> > an anti-cancer agent. It is this kind of disagreement among alternative
> > health practitioners that leaves one wondering. Unrealistic to expect
total
> > agreement of course...
> >
>
> From an extensive 2-part article in current Nexus Magazine, "Coconuts
> and Coconut Oil contain health-promoting saturated fatty acids and
> derivative compounds which have powerful antimicrobial properties":
>
>
> > The food industry has, of course, long been aware that the functional
> >
> > properties of the lauric oils, and especially coconut oil, are
unsurpassed
> >
> > by other available commercial oils. Unfortunately in the United States,
> >
> > during the late 1930s and again during the 1980s and 1990s, the
commercial
> >
> > interests of the domestic fats and oils industry were successful in
driving
> >
> > down usage of coconut oil.
> >
> http://www.nexusmagazine.com/coconuts.html
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CS>Body PH..

[Grant]

Hi there:

I was wondering why there is such adifference between ones Urine PH,
and Ones Saliva PH.. also which one would give a correct indication of
the bodys Alkaline/Acid content..

Thanks  Grant..


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Re: CS>urinary track infection

[Nick Grant]

My mum and dad both had kidney stones.  Mum's last bout with them was an
extremely hot summer ( she doesn't drink enough water at the best of times)
and when she was admitted for laser treatment, the doctors told her they had
seen a record number of people this summer with kindney stones.

They believed it was due to people getting dehydrated, and everything
becoming so concentrated.  New one on me.

What do you think about that?


- Original Message -
From: "Malcolm Stebbins" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2002 09:03
Subject: Re: CS>urinary track infection


> Hi, I don't go along with your comment that an acidic environment in the
urinary
> tract is linked to bladder or kidney stones, in fact I think it's just the
> opposite.  Generally the stones are a compound of calcium, and can even be
> dissolved by adding acidic solutions to a chunk of one.  There may be
something,
> or some form of stone, I don't know about, or maybe there is some bodily
> reaction to the constant presence of an acidic environment, so if you have
> knowledge about some specifics I'd like to learn of them.
> Quite often, bacteria hide inside the stones, thus avoiding total
destruction by
> the usual antibiotic regimen, and after even months of pills they return
when
> the ABX are gone and in a few days to a week or so, there you are, yucky
pee
> again.
> Malcolm
>
> Kathie Jones wrote:
>
> >I suppose, any variance from a standard range of normal is what the
> > bacterium that are often the culprits for urinary tract infections are
fond
> > of. Other bacteria may well favor a more acidic environment that what is
*
> > normal * and decreasing acid levels would discourage their staying.
> >   Too much acid in *some* people, over a period of many weeks or months,
is
> > linked to kidney stones. BUT...often there is something else going on
that
> > is encouraging this * i.e. consumption of too much soda *high carbonic
acid
> > levels*, genetic predisposition, imbalances in other parts of the bodies
> > digestive or endocrine system.
> >All in all, it goes back to Vit C helps the body's immune system
*kick
> > in* and kick out bacterial invaders, and is known to be especially
efficient
> > at combating UTIs when combined with cranberry. I stopped using
cranberry
> > juice, and switched to tablets a long time ago as the sugar in the
drinks
> > actually did the urinary system a disservice when trying to fight and
> > infection. I have had HUGE success when doing this for myself, my
daughter,
> > hubby and my dog. :-) Gotta keep all the family members happy! *G*
> >
> > Kathie
> >
> > > Hm...
> > > I was always under the impression that bacteria, and viruses
> > > liked to live in an "Acidic" environment
> > >
> > > Grant..
> > >
> > > Kathie Jones wrote:
> > > >
> > > > LOTS of vitamin C and CS will do amazing things! :-) And don't
forget
> > > > cranberry tablets. The cranberry keeps the bacteria that is causing
the
> > > > infection from being able to * adhere * to the urinary system walls,
the
> > C
> > > > makes the urine acidic * the bacteria like an alkaline environment*,
and
> > the
> > > > CS will kill the bacteria off.
> > > >
> > > > Kathie
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Re: CS>urinary track infection

[Nick Grant]

>From my understanding, infection starts in the bladder, then left untreated,
it moves up into the kidneys.  You can have silent infections, that cause no
pain until it hits the kidneys.

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Maxine Wilton" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 11:32
Subject: Re: CS>urinary track infection


> I though there was a differenc ton Bladder  and or Kidney  Infections???
>  I had Kidney infection several times.  That is when you get the awfull
pain
> all of a suden.
>  Bladder infection it comes on slower and isn't so severe. I have also had
> that a number of times.
>  Maxine
> -----Original Message-
> From: Nick Grant 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Date: Monday, April 01, 2002 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>urinary track infection
>
>
> >I
> >> think what makes sense here is differentiating between bladder in the
> >> bladder, and bladder irritation
> >
> >That doesn't make sense at all.  I meant infection in the
bladder.oops.
> >
> >Tracy
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Re: CS>urinary track infection

[Nick Grant]

I
> think what makes sense here is differentiating between bladder in the
> bladder, and bladder irritation

That doesn't make sense at all.  I meant infection in the bladder.oops.

Tracy


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Re: CS>urinary track infection

[Nick Grant]

Perhaps we need a little more clarification here - in case matters are made
worse.

If you have a bladder infection - don't drink cranberry juice.  It's like
putting out a fire with gasoline.  It's the acid in the urine on inflamed
tissues that causes the burning sensation.  Cranberry juice can prevent an
infection, but it will only inflame a current one.  Instead, try one-quarter
teaspoon of baking soda in water or corn silk which contains silica.  I
think what makes sense here is differentiating between bladder in the
bladder, and bladder irritation.  However, in cases where the presence of
bacteria, and the start of an infection, is diagnosed before pain
 inflammation) starts, it would seem likely that cranberry and Vitamin C,
anything that ACIDIFIES the urine and kills bacteria, would help.  As long
as the acid doesn't cause more irritation and inflammation, it should be
safe to use.

Cork silk is supposed to work amazingly well, although not in my case as
there was no bacteria present, only symptoms.  It appears to flush poisons
from the Urethra, bladder and kidneys, bringing about healing.  You can make
it by boiling a handful of dried, brown cornsilk for 15 minutes to assure
sterility.  After cooling, it is drinkable.

I think you need to find the cause.  Some people have found they were
allergic to certain foods, and when they eliminated them, the infections
went away.

There was a study done ( which is pretty gross) to dispute the belief that
in women, they thought the cause was the close proximity of the anus to the
urinary tract as being the main cause of bladder infections.  They put some
stool into the bladders of some brave (or silly) medical students.  By the
second voiding, there was no bacteria left.  The  conclusion?  Infection can
be a result of improper voiding, not putting out enough urine to effectively
clean the bladder and vagina.  So - women - drink adequate amounts of water,
and men - wouldn't hurt to don the same if you are having these problems as
well.

Hope this doesn't spoil your day!  :)

TRACY.
- Original Message -
From: "Grant" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 05:44
Subject: Re: CS>urinary track infection


> Hm...
> I was always under the impression that bacteria, and viruses
> liked to live in an "Acidic" environment
>
> Grant..
>
> Kathie Jones wrote:
> >
> > LOTS of vitamin C and CS will do amazing things! :-) And don't forget
> > cranberry tablets. The cranberry keeps the bacteria that is causing the
> > infection from being able to * adhere * to the urinary system walls, the
C
> > makes the urine acidic * the bacteria like an alkaline environment*, and
the
> > CS will kill the bacteria off.
> >
> > Kathie
> >
> > > Anyone know of a good remedy for a urinary track infection for either
or
> > > both sexes???
> > > Lee
> >
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Re: CS>urinary track infection

[Nick Grant]

Tell my husband that Kevin - he is always to busy for minor details like
that! :)

If people read the whole e-mail, they would see my name at the bottom
anyway - maybe one of the downsides of skim reading perhaps?

TRACY!!!



- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Nolan" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:25
Subject: Re: CS>urinary track infection


> Tracy wrote: "I am not male so didn't explore
> > that one, sorry."
>
> OK, but your e-mail header always appears as "Nick Grant". Might it not be
> better to change something here?
>
> Kevin Nolan
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nick Grant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>urinary track infection
>
>
> > Hi Lee
> >
> > Having suffer with a bladder complaint for about 12 years, I have learnt
> > that not all bladder infections happen because of the same cause.
> >
> > Cranberry is a good preventative for bladder infections.  CS seems to
work
> > well on them as well.  In females, it can be sexual relations that play
a
> > big part in some infections, so different things can help this from
> > occurring.  In males, dunno...got me there...I am not male so didn't
> explore
> > that one, sorry.  But Cranberry could work well in both sexes.  Drinking
> > loads of water helps, and keeping the urine alkaline as possible, as an
> acid
> > environment helps the bacteria to adhere to the sides of the bladder and
> > multiply.
> >
> > Tracy
>
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Re: CS>urinary track infection

[Grant]

Hm...
I was always under the impression that bacteria, and viruses 
liked to live in an "Acidic" environment

    Grant..

Kathie Jones wrote:
> 
> LOTS of vitamin C and CS will do amazing things! :-) And don't forget
> cranberry tablets. The cranberry keeps the bacteria that is causing the
> infection from being able to * adhere * to the urinary system walls, the C
> makes the urine acidic * the bacteria like an alkaline environment*, and the
> CS will kill the bacteria off.
> 
> Kathie
> 
> > Anyone know of a good remedy for a urinary track infection for either or
> > both sexes???
> > Lee
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Re: CS>urinary track infection

[Nick Grant]

Hi Lee

Having suffer with a bladder complaint for about 12 years, I have learnt
that not all bladder infections happen because of the same cause.

Cranberry is a good preventative for bladder infections.  CS seems to work
well on them as well.  In females, it can be sexual relations that play a
big part in some infections, so different things can help this from
occurring.  In males, dunno...got me there...I am not male so didn't explore
that one, sorry.  But Cranberry could work well in both sexes.  Drinking
loads of water helps, and keeping the urine alkaline as possible, as an acid
environment helps the bacteria to adhere to the sides of the bladder and
multiply.

Tracy
- Original Message -
From: "Lee Catlett" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 1 April 2002 13:45
Subject: Re: CS>urinary track infection


> Anyone know of a good remedy for a urinary track infection for either or
> both sexes???
> Lee
>
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Re: CS>Ointment for CS

[Nick Grant]

Oh marshalee

Stop insinuating that my CS is not up to standard -  :) this is the second
time you have said this to me.  It is NOT my CS, and my batteries are not
flat!  :)  I don't even use batteries...:)

I think that 1% CS would work if it was going to.  But in some cases, CS
just doesn't seem to do it.  It isn't some wonder medicine that cures
everything, but a handy tool in an arsenal of medicines.  I think if we make
out it is a cure-all, we are in danger of doing CS a disservice, as people
will become disillusioned with it.

Just my perspective  :)

Tracy - who is not growly with you marshallee :)
- Original Message -
From: "Marshalee Hallett" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 1 April 2002 16:31
Subject: Re: CS>Ointment for CS


>
> > So, your is a good question - anyone else had problems - I thought and
> told
> > everyone CS was brilliant for eye problems, and indeed it was in my
> > daughters case, but it doesn't seem to work for sties very well.
> >
> > Tracy
>
> Dear Tracy,
> CS made my stye go away. Guess it depends on the CS...
> Marshalee
>
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Re: CS>Ointment for CS

[Nick Grant]

Hi Mike

I have a friend who awhile back kept getting styes in his eyes.  CS taken
internally and topically did nothing to halt or correct the problem.  He
also got some abx ointment, and it went away quickly.

So, your is a good question - anyone else had problems - I thought and told
everyone CS was brilliant for eye problems, and indeed it was in my
daughters case, but it doesn't seem to work for sties very well.

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Fuller" 
To: "Silver list" 
Sent: Monday, 1 April 2002 12:03
Subject: CS>Ointment for CS


> Hi all,
>
> A while ago I sustained an eye injury with a resulting small corneal
ulcer.
> I initially tried treating with eye washes and/or drops of CS. While I'm
> sure these prevented any infection, they did not relieve the pain and
> irritation. I resorted to using the antibiotic ointment, provided by the
> emergency department, and it did partially relieve both those symptoms,
even
> though there was no anaesthetic component. The ointment also stayed in
situ
> for much, much longer than plain CS drops.
>
> Does anyone have a recipe for making an ointment, suitable for ocular use,
> that can be mixed with CS?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Fuller
>
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Re: CS>Ridiculous ppm/Trem???

[Grant]

I would think that well water would be way out of range of the "PWT"
My well water is totally out of range.. I also have a "PPM" tester, and
my well water is 250 ppm..
       Grant..

Connie wrote:
> 
> I tried ''testing'' my well water one day with my PWTthe numbers went
> crazy and the PWT shut down, I repeated that process over and
> over.perhpas you have a similiar situation? (with something alleged to
> be CS?)
> 
> > From: "Val Q" 
> > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:25:56 -0500
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>Ridiculous ppm/Trem???
> > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:26:43 -0800
> >
> >
> > I have a PWT that I got from Trem.  I know not everybody agrees on the
> > accuracy of this for ppm; however, it is close enough to give me a pretty
> > good idea.
> >
> > A friend of mine has been purchasing his.  This time he bought some that was
> > supposedly 35 ppm.  It had no taste whatsoever, and he thought it might be
> > water.  I loaned him mine to at least give him an idea.  Well, it said
> > 199.9.  How ridiculous is that?  Can anyone venture a guess what this is
> > about?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Valerie
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Strep Throat Report - CS

[Nick Grant]

You used 35% Hydrogen peroxide!!!

Youch.  I cannot bring myself to use it - as a hairdresser I have used it
forever, to lighten peoples hair - I know what even 6% can do, let alone
using it on your insides.I just imagine it all bubbling and burning
things in there12% used to take the skin off my fingers on contact.

I know people swear by it  - I have heard pros and cons about it - what does
everyone one else think - am I the only one who is concerned at using this
strength?  I know it is very diluted - but so is homeopathy! Can't diluting
things make them even stronger in some cases...



Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "AVRA / Jason" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 18 March 2002 15:56
Subject: Re: CS>Strep Throat Report - CS


> Billie:
>
> I can't say for certain that anything "special" NEEDS to be done, I can
only
> report what I experienced in these two cases.  With strep, if your
treatment
> is not responding within seven days, just be certain to find something
that
> does work, because it can rapidly turn into a very serious condition.
>
> Over the years, I have seen quite a few "posts" to various places
concerning
> strep throat... Some people report good results, others report poor
results.
>
> As stated in my initial post, here is the exact method I used ( the H2O2
was
> added to 2 ounces of CS ):
>
> "In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS
> about 8 PPM.  Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS.   I like to
take
> advantage of the active reaction, so I wait only a few minutes before
using
> it.  Then, a small sip is taken into the mouth, and left in the mouth for
at
> least one minute.  This prevents the "ill stomach" effect of H2O2.  Then,
> one allows the CS to trickle down the throat."
>
> "I used the above treatment about twice a day, every fifteen minutes for
> about an hour."
>
> In the second case, I simply used a bit more 35% hydrogen peroxide ( an
> extra two drops ).
>
> In both situations, the H2O2 was still active in the CS.
>
> I hope this clears up any confusion!
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jason
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Billie" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Strep Throat Report - CS
>
>
> > I am new to colloidal silver. Are you saying that you need to do
something
> > different to the CS to make it effective for strep throat. Can you be a
> > little more clear as to what it is?
> > Billie
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "AVRA / Jason" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:56 AM
> > Subject: CS>Strep Throat Report - CS
> >
> >
> > > Greetings, all:
> > >
> > > Recently, Strep throat has been making rounds locally.
> > >
> > > Strep throat is one condition that I've wanted to study in a bit more
> > depth,
> > > due to the old story about a young girl dying because her father used
> > > colloidal silver.  The colloidal silver was not effective, and medical
> > > attention was not sought.
> > >
> > > There are several strains of Strep throat out there ( of course ).  In
> > > reviewing some lab reports done by the University of Northern Texas,
> > > apparently the most agressive strain responds about twice as slowly as
> > > others.
> > >
> > > I treat the throat as an external condition when it comes to using CS,
> as
> > > well as the lungs.  I personally have not had Strep Throat for over
> twelve
> > > years.  Recently, I acquired it!  I believe it was a hospital strain,
> due
> > to
> > > the fact I had been working with someone who had a few hospital stays.
> > The
> > > person never displayed symptoms, but was on a heavy antibiotic
> "cocktail"
> > > treatment.
> > >
> > > I caught the sore throat within about four hours of the symptoms.  The
> > > infection was still isolated to one patch on the right side of the
> throat.
> > >
> > > Controversy and opinions aside, one would be VERY wise to use a
heavily
> > > ionic silver for the throat.  The silver particles will not do the
> trick,
> > > which is why the little girl probably died.  This is only common
sense.
> > The
> > > silver particles due not do a good job coating tissues, and therefore
> the
> > > dilution factor is far greater.  Silver ions do.  In an external
> > > environment, I believe the concentration of silver needs to be greater
> > than
> > > within the body to get the job done. Silver ions are far more
effective
> > > against pathogens than silver particles.  This is not speculation, it
is
> > > fact.  All ionic silver is not converted to silver chloride the body.
> > > Clinical trials will hopefully soon be available that demonstrate this
> > fact,
> > > basic chemistry simplification aside.
> > >
> > > Despite the debate on whether or not H2O2 ionizes silver particles, my
> > > extensive experimentation shows that all visible silver particles can
be
> > > either dropped out of suspension or ionized, as measured by a tyndall
> > > effect.  I have found that this process is best initiated shortly
after

Re: CS>Testers

[Grant]

Just my opinion..
I have a Hanna "PWT", and a Hanna "TDS" meter. I have been
very happy with both.. If you contact Trem. at "Silvergen" he is most
helpful and won't try to sell you something you don't want. 
I have no connection or interest in "Silvergen" other than being a 
satisfied consumer of their products and service..
 Grant..

> Billie wrote:
> 
> What can CS users tell me about testers, such as the Hanna Instrument.
> Do these really work? I am new at this and do not want to waste my $$
> on something that is not going to work.
> Billie


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Re: CS>strong taste

[Nick Grant]

is that good or bad?

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Idol" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2002 14:19
Subject: RE: CS>strong taste


>
> >Can you elaborate on the origin of that re: ionic v. particulate?
>
> Both experience and chemistry and biology.  High-particle/low-ion silver
> preparations have, in my experience, much less of a metallic taste.  Also,
> the tongue determines taste via chemical reactions, essentially.  Inert
> substances should have little to no taste, whereas ionic, dissolved,
> charged, etc., molecules will have taste if the appropriate receptors are
> present.  So the stronger the taste, the more silver ions you have in
> solution, AFAIK.
>
>
>
> -Paul
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CS>strong taste

[Nick Grant]

Hi everyone

I would like to know why my silver has such a strong taste to it nowadays.

I am using air temp water - 500mls of DW, and leaving it about 2 hours.  The
colour is clear, but the taste is awful - very metallic.

My rods are getting very thin, as I have yet to cut up my new wire.  Would
this be the problem?  Do the wires get all funny as they breakdown over
time? ]

My CS never used to taste this bad - I would expect for the taste, that the
CS  would be very yellow, but it is not.

Can anyone help?  Any ideas?

Tracy


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Re: CS>CS saturated, earthenware water purifier- an update

[Grant]

How Bout in Canada???
  Grant..

Ode Coyote wrote:
> 
>   Is there a way to buy one of these candles in the USA?
> Ken
> 
> At 08:29 AM 3/9/02 +0600, you wrote:
> >CS Enthusiasts
> >Two months in the making our new equipment has just been delivered by
> >the machine shop.  So very soon we should be producing thousands of low
> >cost, earthenware candles monthly.  Have a look at the new link:
> >http://www.geocities.com/earthenwarecandle/
> >Bye for now.
> >Reid
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Tahitain Noni

[Nick Grant]

Our family couldn't take it.  My middle daughter had such a severe reaction
to it, that her throat started to swell and she got raced to the Dr.

I am sure it is great for some people, as are all remedies


- Original Message -
From: "TJ Garland" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2002 12:09
Subject: CS>Tahitain Noni


> An old high school classmate is selling  Noni juice for a living. He is
> making alot of "extravagent" claims.He wants me to carry it in my office.
> Anyone have any experience with it? I will check the archives and will
> appreciate any recommend to a good,factual website.  Thanks in advance.
>
> TJ Garland, CMO supplier
>there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
>
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CS>Testing..

[Grant]

Just testing.. Unusual no msgs..???

  gm..


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CS>Testing

[Grant]

Testing ...

gm..


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CS>Just Testing

[Grant]

Testing..
  gm..


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CS>CS and candida

[Nick Grant]

Hi everyone

Just a small testimony - over the Christmas period I went off my sugar free
diet and ate whatever I felt like.  As I suffer from candida, this wasn't
the brightest idea.  About 6 weeks on, I developed what looked like excema
under my left eye.  I tried several things on it, and they all burnt.  I
suspected the irritation was candida, as I have it in my mucus membranes,
and my tears or eye fluid burnt when it touched my skin.

Anyway - CS after only one application made a big difference, and now 3 days
on - its under control.

So if you think its excema on your face - try CS, it might be fungal
related, and CS will really work!


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CS>Just Testing..

[Grant]

Testing, no msgs. rcvd. this "am"
  gm..


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Re: CS>Kefir !!

[Nick Grant]

Re: CS>Kefir  !!I wonder if you could make kefir in Coconut milk?

Tracy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Connie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 08:46
  Subject: Re: CS>Kefir !!




http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

Go take a look at Dom's site in re to soy kefir.
You can make kefir with soy milk, as well as rice milk, almond milk, goat 
milk, even Water kefir. (kefir d'aqua)

The one draw back with soy kefir, the grains do not do as well in soy milk.
Allowing them to ferment,  in other milks- dairy, goat is 
necessary to keep the grains healthy, productive.
I believe Dom recommends at least once every 4 or 5 days.

Connie

From: ijzendo...@webtv.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:08:51 -0600 (CST)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Kefir  !!
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:09:06 -0800




Hi, I have not tried it because I love the goatmilk kefir. Soymilk is
supposed to work just fine. Virginia D.




Be kind to animals, hug your pet every day


From: "Martin, Bill (CXO)" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:11:41 -0700
To: 
Subject: RE: CS>Kefir  !!
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:12:44 -0800

I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, 
animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something 
other - say: soy milk - as a substitute?

  -Original Message-
  From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net]
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>Kefir !!

   
  Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the 
amazing "stuff". I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to 
yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be 
amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even 
make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and 
only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give 
them to someone else. The cycle never ends. 
   

CS>kefir

[Nick Grant]

Would anyone know where I can get this Kefir in New Zealand?

Anyone - anyone at all?  :)

Tracy


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CS>Hypertension..

[Grant]

Hi List:
 Does anyone know if CO-Q10 "really"  is effective against
Hypertension.?? Anyone know of anything that would dissolve Plaque
in the arteries???

   Tks.. Grant..


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Re: CS>How long does Candida take to kill off?

[Nick Grant]

Hi Shirley

It all depends on where the candida is.  Generally if it is widespread, you 
have to treat it systemically.  What have you tried and how much CS are you 
giving him?

Tracy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Newsome 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2002 16:46
  Subject: CS>How long does Candida take to kill off?


  My son has Candida and it is really high.  It causes him discomforts and 
behavioral problems.  

  He is 7 and cannot talk to tell me if the CS is working.  I don't know if I 
should give him more or less.  Any experienced opinions on this would be 
welcome.  I'm going trial and error with no experience.  Thanks!

  Shirley


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Re: CS>Lorenzo's Oil

[Nick Grant]

Hi John

Just thought you might be interested in a new group started up that is run
by someone who knows  a considerable amount about fats and oils etc.

The group is  optimal_health_and_longev...@yahoogroups.com

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "John A. Stanley" 
Newsgroups: list.silver
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2002 15:19
Subject: Re: CS>Lorenzo's Oil


> In article <006301c1a9fb$87d89c90$68acf...@robert1t7dxogn>,
> "Bob Bartell"  wrote:
> >Hi John,
> >Could your opinion of canola oil being evil have anything to do with
> >Monsanto Chemical Co.'s altering the genetic characteristics of the flax
> >seed sold to Canadian farmers?
>
> The genetically engineered rapeseed is certainly one factor in my
> disapproval, but the main thing is that I simply don't trust an oil that
> is promoted as being healthy now that the levels of a potentially
> unhealthy substance that is normally present have been reduced through
> hybridization. There are plenty of alternative light-colored,
> mild-tasting oils to choose from that naturally contain no erucic acid.
>
> >I may be paranoid, but I swear that at
> >times I am convinced that this company is singularly dedicated to
> >reducing the human population of this planet.
>
> I don't think Monsanto is out to intentionally kill people; I think
> they're just driven by unbridled greed. And, the more I read the more I
> believe that Big Vegetable Oil is a particularly sleazy part of the
> Comestibles Industrial Complex. Fer cryin' out loud, these are the folks
> promoting margarine as being healthier than butter!
>
> And, speaking of partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, here's my pet
> layman's theory: I think if there's a link between cellphones and brain
> cancer, a possible risk factor could be dietary PHVO's. As I understand
> it, the body kinda gives these denatured oils a funny look but
> incorporates them into cell structures anyway. My theory is that such
> cells could be more prone to mutation and becoming cancerous when
> exposed to the microwave radiation from cellphones. But, again, I'm
> speaking purely as a layman here; I'm not a biologist.
>
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CS>Checking..JUst Ignore..

[Grant]

Just checking to see if this goes through..
Strange no msgs tonight..
   gm..


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Re: CS>Magnesium oxide help

[Nick Grant]

RE: CS>Magnesium oxide helpSorry Bob - but metamucil contains sugar and fibre 
seems to have the opposite effect on me in that I get constipated.Cascara 
Sagrada gives one bulk windies and stomach cramps tried it all I am 
afraid... actually I am fine at present - must be the coconut oil I got from 
Ivan  :)  and all the healthy New Zealand water!!  Oh ,and the ground flax 
seeds.what a pathetic life it sounds LOL.

Tracy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Bartell 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2002 21:07
  Subject: RE: CS>Magnesium oxide help


  Hey Tracy...& Damian,

  The fast way is to make a strong tea of Cascara tree bark.  The best way is 
some Metamucil in juice (Couple of teaspoons)  daily!

  Namaste

  Bob Bartell 

  -Original Message-
  From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:53 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Magnesium oxide help

  Hi Damian

  I didn't notice a difference with Homozon in that it made me go to the

  toilet more - cos it didn't.  Weather it was doing me any good or not - who

  knows!  Boy, we have to trust the "experts" don't we?  Someone out there

  could be making a lot of money

  Tracy



  - Original Message -

  From: "Damian Corrin" 

  To: 

  Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2002 12:29

  Subject: CS>Magnesium oxide help



  > Hello

  >

  > Can anyone tell me if when using magnesium oxide to cleanse the collon

  that

  > it did not work at all. I recently purchased some and have not had one

  > single movement. I take a heaped teaspoon with lemon juice and apple cider

  > for a boost in acidity and still nothing. THe way people rave about it on

  > the web i thought i would be like lightning. I drink lots of water as

  well.

  > I am beggining to wonder if the product i bought is bogus, and maybe

  should

  > try another brand or supplier

  >

  > Thanks for your time

  > Damian

  >

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Re: CS>Magnesium oxide help

[Nick Grant]

Hi Damian

I didn't notice a difference with Homozon in that it made me go to the
toilet more - cos it didn't.  Weather it was doing me any good or not - who
knows!  Boy, we have to trust the "experts" don't we?  Someone out there
could be making a lot of money

Tracy


- Original Message -
From: "Damian Corrin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2002 12:29
Subject: CS>Magnesium oxide help


> Hello
>
> Can anyone tell me if when using magnesium oxide to cleanse the collon
that
> it did not work at all. I recently purchased some and have not had one
> single movement. I take a heaped teaspoon with lemon juice and apple cider
> for a boost in acidity and still nothing. THe way people rave about it on
> the web i thought i would be like lightning. I drink lots of water as
well.
> I am beggining to wonder if the product i bought is bogus, and maybe
should
> try another brand or supplier
>
> Thanks for your time
> Damian
>
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Re: CS>questions: stir vs. bubble

[Grant]

Seems to me a very simple test would indicate if foreign materials are
being introduced into your c/s by the "Bubbler"..
Just take u/s reading on your d/w.
Then run your bubbler through the water for some time.(Don't Make c/s )
Take another u/s reading. If readings are the same then you
can assume that no contamination has taken place.
      Grant..


With all due respect Trem:
I have used stir  with a motor & bubble also no stir at all, and a chop
stick stir
by hand.  I to use a laser light and a pwt testerbut what makes me
assume my
CS is clean of dust as you believe, is I have three Clean Air Ozone
generators in
m


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CS>can anyone help

[Nick Grant]

Hi there

Does anyone live near New Haven, Connecticut?

I know someone there who is wanting to get hold of some CS.

She is thinking of joining us anyway - but wanted me to ask so she could
acquire some.

Thanks

Tracy



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Re: CS>Magnesium oxide

[Nick Grant]

Hi Mike

I remember those pictures well -and that was twenty years ago, when I first
became interested in natural medicine.  What we can do to our intestines is
horrid!  I will get back on the Homozon now you have given me a "protocol"
to worth with.  I was only having it once in the morning with lemon.  I was
going o.k. till I read an article (may have been on this list) saying that
it was all rubbish and a waste of timewonder if I can find the article
againif I can, I will post it and you can tell me what you think.

So...back to the Homozon - which is mag. oxide.

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Fuller" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 14:45
Subject: CS>Magnesium oxide


> Hi Marshalee, Barnbert, Tracy, James et al,
>
> First Tracy, I suspect Homozon is magnesium oxide, just check the label.
>
> James, I get my mag ox from a laboratory supply company, here in Western
> Australia. If you are in the USA you should find it easily enough. I am
> aware of two versions, light and not-so-light. The light, which is
cheaper,
> doesn't release quite as much oxygen but both do a similar cleansing job.
> Get USP grade or equivalent.
>
> Maeshalee and Baernbert, it is relatively easy to clean parts of the
colon,
> it is another matter concerning the caecum (known as the cesspool of the
GI
> tract) and the small intestine. Consider the lining of the small
intestines
> as being like a shag-pile carpet. Whenever some substance causes a problem
> in this area, such as incomplete digestion due to poor food combining, the
> system treats the substance as foreign and produces mucous as a protective
> mechanism. This mucous/food remains in the area, ready to be eliminated
when
> the system gets an opportune moment. Unfortunately, with our poor dietary
> habits of constant and excessive eating, and improper food combining, we
> simply don't give our system a chance to do this basic clearing. These
> insults on the intestinal lining simply pile on top of each other with the
> consequence of impacting the 'muck' deeper into the 'carpet'. They harden
> over time and prove to be a real barrier to nutrient assimilation.
>
> Magnesium oxide acts a little like the foaming cleansers you spray onto a
> carpet, which act by lifting some of the dirt to the surface, making it
> easier to remove. It takes some time for the mag ox to gradually break up
> your impacted 'muck' which is why there is a lengthy protocol. In addition
> it would be beneficial to lessen the burdon on your intestines by
practicing
> good food combining, eating less, and occasional fasting (know what you're
> doing before trying the fasting!). Heaps of water is also essential.
>
> Everyone I know who has completed the mag ox protocol has had good, and
> sometimes amazing, results. If you remain unconvinced, but still curious,
> look at the Bernard Jensen book, 'Iridology: Vol 2'. The pictures may just
> change your mind.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Fuller
>
>
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Re: CS>Yeast infections

[Nick Grant]

Is Homozon what you are referring to?

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Fuller" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 13:19
Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections


> Yes Damian, magnesium oxide is a very effective, cheap, and safe way of
> cleansing the intestines and is my preferred method. FWIW I consider
almost
> everybody would benefit from an intestinal cleansing. For those who are
> interested I will outline its use.
>
> The protocol I, and many others I know, have used involves hitting it hard
> initially and then tapering off. I take it twice a day for one week, once
a
> day for one week, once every second day for a week, and so on until the
> maintenance dose of once weekly.
>
> The procedure simply involves stirring a heaped teaspoon of magnesium
oxide
> in a glass of warm water and drinking, followed by the juice of a lemon in
> warm water. Some prefer to stir the mag ox straight into the lemon/water.
> Effectiveness may be increased with the addition of an orange juice
chaser.
> For those who are sensitive to citrus, it is the acid medium that is
> required so use a substitute.
>
> You may be surprised at what does emerge when you cleanse adequately. A
> sixty year old lady I know couldn't comprehend what the small brightly
> coloured bits were that she was passing, so she had them analysed. They
> ended up being pieces of crayon that she had chewed as a child.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Fuller
>
> > From: Damian Corrin 
> > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:04:55 +1000
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com, 
> > Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections
> > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:05:31 -0800
> >
> > I've just been looking at magnesium oxide. I will order some tommorow.
It
> > looks as though a very effective way of cleaning the intestine, before
> > repopulating it with good bacteria. Its quite cheap aswell
> >
> > Take care
> > Damian
> >
>
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Re: CS>Yeast infections

[Nick Grant]

so how do I make it, and why is it so beneficial?

Are you on the silver off topic list - could we take this over there?

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Connie" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 13:02
Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections


> You can use any kind of milkrice, almond, soy, goat...etc
> or you can make Kefir d'aqua (water kefir)...using no milk at all!!
> Or grape juice kefirthe list goes on.
>
>
> > From: "Nick Grant" 
> > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:37:45 +1300
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections
> > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:39:25 -0800
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > I cannot tolerate protein in milk - so what would kefir be like in that
> > regard?
> >
> > Tracy
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Heather King (LCA)" 
> > To: "Langsley Russell" ; 
> > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 04:32
> > Subject: RE: CS>Yeast infections
> >
> >
> >> Actually, I've done away with all symptoms of candida infestation in
> >> less than 3 months on homemade kefir. I drink 1/3 C of CS in the
evening
> >> before bed & have a tall glass of fresh kefir (cultured organic milk)
on
> >> an empty stomach each morning. Worked like a charm; tastes great, too.
> >> Most live kefir cultures have a form of yeast that is cannibalistic
> >> toward candida and attacks it voraciously from what I understand. I'd
> >> say it's probably true, considering how I feel now. Acid reflux is
gone,
> >> dry skin is gone, itchy red patches in sensitive areas are gone,
> >> digestion/elimination is very normal again.
> >>
> >> Heather
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Langsley Russell [mailto:bullo...@nitline.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:08 PM
> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections
> >>
> >> Hi Tracy.
> >>
> >> You said:
> >>
> >> "Ahhh, but does it cure it?  If it is in the bowel (which is where it
> >> likes
> >> to live and thrive) no amount of douching in the world will change
> >> that."
> >>
> >> What do you recommend as the most efficacious treatment to CURE the
> >> fungal
> >> infection in the bowel?
> >>
> >> LTR  }}:{(
> >> Langsley T Russell
> >> Bulloved Bulldogs
> >> bullo...@nitline.com
> >> http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/The-Holistic-Bulldogger
> >> http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/
> >>
> >>
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Re: CS>Yeast infections

[Nick Grant]

Heather

I cannot tolerate protein in milk - so what would kefir be like in that
regard?

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Heather King (LCA)" 
To: "Langsley Russell" ; 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 04:32
Subject: RE: CS>Yeast infections


> Actually, I've done away with all symptoms of candida infestation in
> less than 3 months on homemade kefir. I drink 1/3 C of CS in the evening
> before bed & have a tall glass of fresh kefir (cultured organic milk) on
> an empty stomach each morning. Worked like a charm; tastes great, too.
> Most live kefir cultures have a form of yeast that is cannibalistic
> toward candida and attacks it voraciously from what I understand. I'd
> say it's probably true, considering how I feel now. Acid reflux is gone,
> dry skin is gone, itchy red patches in sensitive areas are gone,
> digestion/elimination is very normal again.
>
> Heather
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Langsley Russell [mailto:bullo...@nitline.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:08 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections
>
> Hi Tracy.
>
> You said:
>
> "Ahhh, but does it cure it?  If it is in the bowel (which is where it
> likes
> to live and thrive) no amount of douching in the world will change
> that."
>
> What do you recommend as the most efficacious treatment to CURE the
> fungal
> infection in the bowel?
>
> LTR  }}:{(
> Langsley T Russell
> Bulloved Bulldogs
> bullo...@nitline.com
> http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/The-Holistic-Bulldogger
> http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/
>
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Re: CS>another newbie...

[Nick Grant]

Hi Alison

Where do you live in NZ?

I am in the South Island and have no problem getting DW from the chemist.
Do not get it from the Warehouse.

Tracy

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From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2002 20:56
Subject: Re: CS>another newbie...


>
>
> Hello again,
> I'd like to thank everyone who took the time to reply to my
> questions & queries.  Thank you so much for sharing your
> knowledge with me.  I am ready to start making my own CS now
> but I need to get distilled water first.  I am going to see if I can buy
> it over the counter here in New Zealand (any Kiwis here know if it
> can be bought?) or I will get some from my parents to who distill
> their own water, and I may need to consider distilling my own water
> if the first two options don't pan out.  I have been told that I can
> make CS using boiled water but I have read nothing on the 'net that
> agrees with that so am reluctant to do that yet.  Does anyone here
> make CS with boiled water?
>
> Alison
> in New Zealand
>
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Re: CS>Yeast infections

[Nick Grant]

Hey, if I knew I'd be rich!  :)  But a lady just got cured of 17 years of
candida witha combination of diet, colonics and gentian violet vaginal and
labia paints... sounds like fun...wonder what she does in her spare time?
The colonics work well in the bowel for helping to clear out the candida and
faecal matter stuck to the intestines - sounds nice doesn't it?

Seriously - I am thinking of giving it a go.  The Canterbury College of
natural medicine is doing it for $45 - 3 fanny paints and 1 colon cleanse
 by fanny I am referring to the vagina) - this is cheap due to the fact the
trainees do it under guidance.  I have got the point now I would hang upside
down naked if I thought it was going to do some good - ummm...maybe not.

I have had candida for 12 years so I am little tired of it by now.

Tracy


Tracy
- Original Message -
From: "Langsley Russell" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2002 11:08
Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections


> Hi Tracy.
>
> You said:
>
> "Ahhh, but does it cure it?  If it is in the bowel (which is where it
likes
> to live and thrive) no amount of douching in the world will change that."
>
> What do you recommend as the most efficacious treatment to CURE the fungal
> infection in the bowel?
>
> LTR  }}:{(
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Re: CS>Yeast infections

[Nick Grant]

Ahhh, but does it cure it?  If it is in the bowel (which is where it likes
to live and thrive) no amount of douching in the world will change that.
You have to attack it from within the bowel.  It can mutate into 7 different
forms also...very cunning little fungi that it is

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "Connie" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2002 03:26
Subject: Re: CS>Yeast infections


> I douche with about one ounce of CS/DMSO to 3 ounces lite vinegar douche
> with drop of Tea Tree oil.
>
> Also will soak a tampon in THE CS/DMSO/TTO mix, leave in place at least 8
> hours. (overnight)
> The TTO really helps with the acute itching.
>
> Connie
>
>
>
> > From: Terry Chamberlin 
> > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:36:41 -0500 (EST)
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>Yeast infections
> > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 05:36:43 -0800
> >
> > I once recommended to a client that she douche with
> > CS, but I never received a report. My own feeling is
> > that CS with a few drops of H2O2 would be very
> > effective.
> >
> > Terry Chamberlin
> >
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CS>cats and food

[Nick Grant]

> HI there
>
> I thought maybe all you animal lovers would like to read this.  I don't
> think it would be much help to a very sick animal, but prevention is
easier
> than cure!
>
> Tracy.
>
>
> > My cat Bob was horribly allergic for the first years of his
life.
> > He also had problems with renal stones.  The vet had him on a Lamb &
Rice
> > diet and he did no better.   Then my wife & I found a Homeopathic Vet &
> Bob
> > was put on a raw meat diet with chicken entrails & bones ground up in
it.
> > Bob prospered & got rid of all allergies.
> >
> > I recently wrote to some friends with warnings about dry cat
food
> I
> > copied from this list & received back a reply of what they feed to their
> > cats.I'll append it below.
> >
> >
> >
~~
> > > Healthy, Homemade Cat Food
> >
> >
> > > 10 lb. Fresh ground turkey (if using Vitamix, grind bones, as well
> > > for calcium) 18 oz. Quaker Old Fashioned Oats 2 10-oz. Pkgs. Frozen
> > > spinach
> >
> > > Blend all together.  Freeze in appropriate amounts and container.  At
> > > serving time, add a heaping teaspoon of Healthy Powder and mix in
> > > well with food. This makes a 3-week supply for two cats. Serving = 3
> > > oz./meal/cat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Healthy Powder:
> >
> > > 2 cups Brewer's yeast
> > > 1 cup lecithin granules
> > > 5 tsp. Eggshell, powdered (or 9000 mg. Calcium)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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CS>Fw: [Gettingwell] Re:cat outside

[Nick Grant]

HI there

I thought maybe all you animal lovers would like to read this.  I don't
think it would be much help to a very sick animal, but prevention is easier
than cure!

Tracy.


> My cat Bob was horribly allergic for the first years of his life.
> He also had problems with renal stones.  The vet had him on a Lamb & Rice
> diet and he did no better.   Then my wife & I found a Homeopathic Vet &
Bob
> was put on a raw meat diet with chicken entrails & bones ground up in it.
> Bob prospered & got rid of all allergies.
>
> I recently wrote to some friends with warnings about dry cat food
I
> copied from this list & received back a reply of what they feed to their
> cats.I'll append it below.
>
>
> ~~
> > Healthy, Homemade Cat Food
>
>
> > 10 lb. Fresh ground turkey (if using Vitamix, grind bones, as well
> > for calcium) 18 oz. Quaker Old Fashioned Oats 2 10-oz. Pkgs. Frozen
> > spinach
>
> > Blend all together.  Freeze in appropriate amounts and container.  At
> > serving time, add a heaping teaspoon of Healthy Powder and mix in
> > well with food. This makes a 3-week supply for two cats. Serving = 3
> > oz./meal/cat
>
>
>
>
>
> > Healthy Powder:
>
> > 2 cups Brewer's yeast
> > 1 cup lecithin granules
> > 5 tsp. Eggshell, powdered (or 9000 mg. Calcium)
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: CS> OT> NONI

[Nick Grant]

Larry - just be aware that people who are sensitive to acid fruits - like my
family - need to take it with care.  My middle daughter had a severe
reaction to it and her throat just about closed over.  it was scary, and it
was definitely the Noni.  it effected both my self and my son adversely as
well.  We all have allergies to acid fruit.

Thoughtfully yours

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "larry tankersley" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2002 04:27
Subject: CS> OT> NONI


> Dear List.I've felt remiss for having not shared my experience with
> noni..I'll keep it short.
>  Been using it for control of pain and inflammation for about 5 years
> now,and have turned several others on to it. All say the same
> thing..."that stuff really works"
>  I've gone off of it 3 times just to see what's up and after 3 or 4 days
> all the things that use to devil me start coming back..trauma
> related.It's strange how quick I forget how I use to hurt.
>  I recently found out that studies show all sorts of benefits.. cancer,
> high BP etc. The net in full of info.
>  I was giving $40 a bottle from a MLM at first, but now, once again
> Puritans Pride or healthsmart has the best price I've found... $35 for 3
> bottles of juice..or $20 for the cap's..[3 for 1 sale] [3 month supply]
> I find the caps work as well as the juice.
>  Thats it folks...
>
>
>
> larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA
>
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CS>Dietary polyunsaturated fatty acids and composition of human aortic plaques.

[Nick Grant]

Hi again, thought that this might help everyone who is undecided, as this
article was published in the Lancet.  It seems that the medical profession
are wakingl up!  About time.

TRacy
>
> Interesting paper published in the Lancet.  Note the line: "No
associations were found with saturated fatty acids."
>
> So again we see more solid data linking BOTH mono and poly fatty acids
with plaque formation but NOT saturated fatty
> acids.  Note the association climbs as the number of double bonds
increases.
>
> 3 double bonds, Omega 3 = 0.93,
> 2 double bonds, Omega 6 = 0.75
> 1 double bond, Mono = 0.70
> 0 double bonds, Sat = 0.00
>
> The reason?  Sat fats can't be oxidized and mono and poly can be.  Again I
suggest you have a close look at the analysis
> I have done, especially at the Plaque formation index verus the amount of
double bond rich fatty acids in the various
> common food oils and fats.
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/crsociety/files/VCO/OilAnalysis291201.gif
>
>
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui
ds=7934543&dopt=Abstract
> Lancet 1994 Oct 29;344(8931):1195-6 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut
> Dietary polyunsaturated fatty acids and composition of human aortic
plaques.
> Felton CV, Crook D, Davies MJ, Oliver MF.
> Wynn Institute for Metabolic Research, London, UK.
>
> How long-term dietary intake of essential fatty acids affects the
fatty-acid content of aortic plaques is not clear.
>
> We compared the fatty-acid composition of aortic plaques with that of
post-mortem serum and adipose tissue, in which
> essential fatty-acid content reflects dietary intake.
>
> Positive associations were found between serum and plaque omega 6 (r =
0.75) and omega 3 (r = 0.93) polyunsaturated
> fatty acids, and monounsaturates (r = 0.70), and also between adipose
tissue and plaque omega 6 polyunsaturated fatty
> acids (r = 0.89).
>
> No associations were found with saturated fatty acids.
>
> These findings imply a direct influence of dietary polyunsaturated fatty
acids on aortic plaque formation and suggest
> that current trends favouring increased intake of polyunsaturated fatty
acids should be reconsidered.
>
> PMID: 7934543 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> 



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Re: CS>CS started too late.

[Nick Grant]

So what you are saying, is that when my husband eats oranges and gets
mucousy straight away, this is good?  Where is the mucus coming from?  I
would say this is more an allergic reaction, as it oranges seem to trigger
his body to produce mucus.  I know this is not the same as in the case of a
cold.  I was always taught to stay away from oranges when you got a cold.
Grapefruit is fine, but not oranges... anyone know more about this?

Not that I don't believe what you are saying just wondering who is right
and who is wrong...

Just read Nina's post there are a fair number of people who are allergic
to oranges, so maybe when one has a cold, if they think they might be at all
sensitive  to oranges...don't have them!

I saw Lord of the Rings last night - really good.  Also had an ice-cream at
the movies, and had a really bad reaction to it.  My throat swelled up and
it was awful.  I AM allergic to milk.  Had hoped it might had diminished,
but alas didn't spoil the movie though.  I would have had to die quietly
so as not to upset my husband who is an avid fan :)

Tracy

Tracy
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Fuller" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, 28 December 2001 14:11
Subject: Re: CS>CS started too late.


> Hi Tracy,
>
> Sorry, but I think you have this a little wrong:
>
> > I wouldn't be taking orange juice when you have a cold, as it will
increase
> > mucus production.  Oranges are extremely mucus forming.
>
> Oranges, like all citrus fruit, are mucolytic, that is they help break up
> the mucous (Oz spelling :-)
> Foods such as dairy products are mucous forming (mucogenic).
>
> Perhaps you were thinking of the increase in mucous flow when you eat
> oranges. This is simply the mucous breaking up and discharging much more
> easily, which is exactly what your body needs to do. It is the suppression
of
> mucous discharge that leads to worsening health problems.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Fuller
>
> Hoping everyone had a mucous-free Christmas.
>
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Re: CS>CS started too late.

[Nick Grant]

Relynda

I wouldn't be taking orange juice when you have a cold, as it will increase
mucus production.  Oranges are extremely mucus forming.  Unless they are
picked ripe off the tree, they have virtually no Vitamin C anyway!  Try
taking Calcium Acsorbate - this will work really well alongside the CS.
Just take them apart from one another.  Snorting with CS up the nose helps
too.

Tracy


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Re: CS>cs in milk

[Nick Grant]

Re: CS>cs in milkCan you enlarge on THAT comment - sounds gross!

Tracy
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 12:26
  Subject: RE: CS>cs in milk


  Too bad it doesn't destroy the growth hormones that plug into human 
receptors. 

   

  James-Osbourne: Holmes

   

  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Fuller [mailto:car...@touch88.com.au]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:10 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>cs in milk

   

  I don't think you're ever going to find much in the way of probiotics in 
commercially available milk.
  Whatever goodness was in it, particularly the enzymes, is destroyed by 
pasteurization, not to mention the "badness" that results from homogenization.

  Now if I could just learn to drink my tea without milk :-)

  Regards,

  Mike Fuller


  From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
  Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:21:41 -0700
  To: 
  Subject: RE: CS>cs in milk
  Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:24:22 -0800

   

  Note also that you are killing the probiotics in the milk along with the 
bacteria that cause spoilage. 



  James-Osbourne: Holmes 



  -Original Message-
  From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net]
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:13 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>cs in milk 


  on 30 nov. , i opened a quart of milk, with a spoil date of dec 5, and dosed 
it with a blub of CS.  i had some of the milk with cereal on dec 12, and it was 
still fresh. it turned yesterday. not bad, eh?



  Re: CS>Went wrong
  ·From: Acmeair (view other messages by this author 
 ) 

  ·Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:27:56 


--


  whenever i bring milk home, i put a blub of CS in it right after its 
opened.it extends the life of the milk to about double before it spoils. i 
livealone and i don't throw milk out like i used to. nothing scientific, 
justpractical - Original Message -From: "Damian Corrin" 
To: Sent: Friday, November 
30, 2001 12:35 PMSubject: CS>Went wrong  > The milk both went of at the same 
time and the cs subject appeared to be> worse. The cs i make uses 3 9v with a 
bubbler for around 3 hours. It is> clear on finish. It tastes very metalic. The 
milk was kept at roomtemperature.>> Yes i could leave the testing up to 
independent laboratories, but aspeople> are aware every one has a stake 
somewhere in the result and figures are> easily changed to suit. I mean is the 
glass half empty or full.>> I think what im trying to get at rather than 
anything is that all this> information has been written about how amazing cs is 
and how many thingsit> can cure and kill, when an even balance of light hasnt 
been shone on what> it cant do and what not to expect from it. That really was 
the whole point> of the experiment and my posting.>> When something almost 
becomes like a religion it maybe necessary to step> and rethink the whole.>> 
Anyhow thats my bit> Take care> Damian>

   

Re: CS>cs in milk

[Nick Grant]

Re: CS>cs in milkJust give up the tea :)  I had to give up coffee, cos I just 
couldn't handle it without sugar.  Still miss it :(

Tracy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Fuller 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 11:09
  Subject: Re: CS>cs in milk


  I don't think you're ever going to find much in the way of probiotics in 
commercially available milk.
  Whatever goodness was in it, particularly the enzymes, is destroyed by 
pasteurization, not to mention the "badness" that results from homogenization.

  Now if I could just learn to drink my tea without milk :-)

  Regards,

  Mike Fuller


From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:21:41 -0700
To: 
Subject: RE: CS>cs in milk
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:24:22 -0800




Note also that you are killing the probiotics in the milk along with the 
bacteria that cause spoilage. 



James-Osbourne: Holmes 



-Original Message-
From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>cs in milk 


on 30 nov. , i opened a quart of milk, with a spoil date of dec 5, and 
dosed it with a blub of CS.  i had some of the milk with cereal on dec 12, and 
it was still fresh. it turned yesterday. not bad, eh?



Re: CS>Went wrong
·From: Acmeair (view other messages by this author 
 ) 

·Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:27:56 



whenever i bring milk home, i put a blub of CS in it right after its 
opened.it extends the life of the milk to about double before it spoils. i 
livealone and i don't throw milk out like i used to. nothing scientific, 
justpractical - Original Message -From: "Damian Corrin" 
To: Sent: Friday, November 
30, 2001 12:35 PMSubject: CS>Went wrong  > The milk both went of at the same 
time and the cs subject appeared to be> worse. The cs i make uses 3 9v with a 
bubbler for around 3 hours. It is> clear on finish. It tastes very metalic. The 
milk was kept at roomtemperature.>> Yes i could leave the testing up to 
independent laboratories, but aspeople> are aware every one has a stake 
somewhere in the result and figures are> easily changed to suit. I mean is the 
glass half empty or full.>> I think what im trying to get at rather than 
anything is that all this> information has been written about how amazing cs is 
and how many thingsit> can cure and kill, when an even balance of light hasnt 
been shone on what> it cant do and what not to expect from it. That really was 
the whole point> of the experiment and my posting.>> When something almost 
becomes like a religion it maybe necessary to step> and rethink the whole.>> 
Anyhow thats my bit> Take care> Damian>

Re: CS>burning

[Nick Grant]

Ivan

They are all from different families.  The husband is the brother in law of
my friends sister - and the baby - just your average healthy baby :)

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "I Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2001 20:21
Subject: RE: CS>burning


> I'm over here, Tracy. LOL.
>
> I re-sent the message that I sent you a week ago, which you must have
> missed. It has all the info you requested.
>
> Burning...
> Why is the baby being given CS. Is there some health problem?
> It could be that the entire family is suffering from some sort of
> gastro infection or other malady which the CS reacts with.
>
> I suggest you retrieve the CS from these people and try it
> yourself...replace it with some that you know is ok, ie you have drunk
> a sample yourself. If you do not have a burning reaction then perhaps
> the family should have some tests run.
>
> Regards
> Ivan
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz]
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2001 2:19 p.m.
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>burning
> >
> >
> > Hi Dean
> >
> > Ivan has tested my CS in the past and it has been fine.  I
> > used cheap water
> > for awhile till I found out that it was a problem, then went
> > back to the
> > original DW that was a lot more expensive, and  that Ivan had
> > tested.  I
> > don't put the leads in the water and the wires are fine.  I
> > am in the middle
> > of getting some more from Ivan as they are pretty worn (thin).
> >
> > It doesn't have this affect on anyone else that I give it to.
> >  My whole
> > family drink it and we have never noticed any burning.
> >
> > It is a mystery to me.
> >
> > I will send some up to Ivan for testing as soon as I hear from him.
> >
> > IVAN are you thereYoohooo
>
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