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I am leaving the list for now. If anyone wants to Email me. My Email is jo...@access.mountain.net
Re: CSprogress report.
I suspect I wasn't taking enough acidophilis to replace the friendly bacteria that I believe was killed by large doses of Colloidal Silver. When to much friendly bacteria is killed, Yeast syndrome occurs and can mimike many of the Symptoms of Lyme - including Chronic fatigue. The same happens with either potent or long term use of Antibiotics if the friendly bacteria is not replaced.I also noticed my appetite dramatically decreased. Maybe this is also related, since Friendly bacteria play a role in digestion. -Original Message- From: donna2...@aol.com donna2...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 2:27 PM Subject: Re: CSprogress report. Can not enoough acidophillus cause fatigue? Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CScolloidal silver protein
Interesting. :) Thanks. -Original Message- From: In Moon im...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 1:55 AM Subject: CScolloidal silver protein Does anyone know how to make Colloidal Silver Protein? Yeah, Dr. Farber and his people? GRIN Generally speaking sprouting process is used to make protein bound minerals. Get a sprouting kit at the local health food store, and buy some alfalfa seed , then grow alfalfa sprout with colloidal silver water. Vitamin companies dry them and make them into tablets to maket. But raw sprout may be better for you, even though very short shelf life for commercial stores. In E. Moon im...@hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSprogress report.
Thanks for the input. :) I think part of my problem was a lack of acidophilis and judging by the excess fatigue I may have killed to much friendly bacteria. I am loading up on acidophilis now. I am happy with all the responses I have received. Thanks. John J jo...@access.mountain.net -Original Message- From: Doug Sprague spra...@calgary.dowell.slb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 11:37 AM Subject: Re: CSprogress report. You may want to try taking the silver immediately after eating. better chance of getting absorbed before getting to the lower intestine. Doug At 11:55 PM 02/10/98 +00-05, you wrote: John Jones wrote: A while back I promised to report my results with 32 ounces of homemade colloidal silver per day. After about two weeks my stomach was highly sensitive to the homemade CS I made using a 27volt generator. I did have some positive results. But the results were unsatisfactory ... Hi John, I'd appreciate others' comments to this, as all I'm sharing is my gut feeling based on my limited experiences. I tried drinking a fair amount of CS as you did, many ounces a day of probably 20ppm or more. After a week or two I began to have intestinal problems as well as just feeling poorly. When I started to have acute muscle and joint pains in my legs, hips and back I got really concerned. I stopped taking the CS but continued to get worse, rather than better. Now you might wonder if I'm describing a herx. I don't really think so, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, I'm basically healthy. I'm not fighting Lyme or any chronic disease I'm aware of. My original cause for using CS was to beat back the bronchitis and other upper respiratory infections I used to have. grin The other reason I don't think is was a herx, is what solved it. Jim Einert, our resident ND, had made a couple of suggestions to another list member who described having very similar muscle and joint symptoms. One of the things he said to try was calcium. This got me thinking about basic nutrition, and I had my wife buy me one of those calcium enriched orange juices. I drank only two 4 ounce servings over twelve hours and was immediately much better. What I believe happened is I had thoroughly wiped out my intestinal flora, such that I couldn't absorb many nutrients. I had driven my nutritional state, and probably body chemistry, way out of whack. So my response to what you've described is that you're probably not being subtle enough in designing your regimen. Others here can recommend steps to restore and support your overall balance better than I can. But I think that is what is going to be needed if you're going to use a lot of CS (or anything else for that matter) for a long time. I am now temporarily switching back to Dr. Farber's Colloidal Silver Protein - as I had my best overall results with it. Though within the three days I've started back and a couple days before I've been much worse. If you read on the Advantage Pharmaceutical site you'll see they suggest other things to do while you are treating your Lyme. I'm not sure you'll feel any better until your digestion gets back to normal, whichever product you're going to use. Does anyone know how to make Colloidal Silver Protein? Yeah, Dr. Farber and his people? GRIN Is there a machine I can buy or make myself to generate it? I've never heard a discussion of just how they produce their product. I believe they use some pretty high quality methods to control the quality. I don't think I'd try to duplicate it, although the high cost is an incentive. I would greatly appreciate any help. I don't think the homemade silver I'm making with my 27 volt generator is strong enough. The reason we're pursuing the low voltage generators as well as others, is because anybody can do it that way. I'm not sure, based on your description, that it's the fault of the CS. You may need to do some other things to support your body during treatment. Thank you. Take Care. Good luck, John! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail
CSOff topic: chinese doctor treating Lyme Disease
Dear list. I have a friend who is trying a Chinese Medicine approach to Lyme disease. There is an excellent article at http://www.zhang-clinic.com/ with a chinese doctor who has had some success with the treatment of Lyme Disease. I found it quit inspiring and am thinking about trying this myself. Thought this might interest someone. :-) Best to all of you and your health, John Jones II jo...@access.mountain.net
Re: CS dose for Lyme treatment?
Dear Marsha How do you make your 30PPM solutions? I'm unsure of the potency of mine and haven't had enough improvement with my Lyme Disease. jo...@access.mountain.net -Original Message- From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 8:25 PM Subject: Re: CS dose for Lyme treatment? Hi List, I would be interested in hearing from those of you on the list that are currently (or in the past) using CS for Lyme disease. What is the dose you take (volume per day and PPM). Jeff La Favre Dear Jeff, I took 30 PPM, I guess, at 3 big swallows a day when I was actively ill. I didn`t worry about overdosing, as it is excreted easily. It took a week to feel better, and 7 months for all the damage to heal after being so ill for nearly 6 years. I still take a swallow every other day or so as a preventive. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: High potency colloidal silver
Thanks for the info. Chris John -Original Message- From: mbgu...@julian.uwo.ca mbgu...@julian.uwo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: aqua...@aol.comjohn aqua...@aol.comjohn; J jo...@access.mountain.net Date: Sunday, July 19, 1998 10:02 PM Subject: Re: High potency colloidal silver Susan/John/list, If you want to increase the potency of CS and vitamins and drugs you can elecroprote the cells. This can increase the potency from 20 to 30+. At these levels in most case you have to reduce the dose. At these increases of doses some vitamins and most drugs can become poisons. Definition: Electroporation: A General Phenomenon for Manipulating Cells and Tissues. This can be done using micro currents as per Dr. Becks protocols. Head his warnings! Some references to check out more details Explore! magazine Sample articles. Robert C. Beck is the man to check out I have build these in vivo blood and lymph purifiers. All kinds off patents on these ideas but totally suppressed from the public. Don't be put off by the AIDs HIV slant on these, thatÂ’s just the tip. He also made a brain tuner which does wonders for addiction, depression and generally allows you to relax - Super! Have also constructed. http://www.explorepub.com/articles/article_list.html The following sites sell these devices if you don't want to make them yourself. They have lots of data and references also. THEY HAVE TESTIMONIALS AT THERE SITE PROTOCOLS ON DEALING WITH LYME DISEASE. http://www.sota-inc.com/ Highly recommend you get Bob Beck's video, paper with circuits and brain tuner audio tape. All this stuff is cheap. I have no connection with them. This paper is available, as pdf file, on the following web site (when its working keep trying): http://www.u36.com/~fredw/ This is another place with better prices. Their discussion on these products is very good but mostly anecdotal. http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html Chris Gupta At 09:21 PM 7/17/98 -0400, you wrote: In a message dated 98-07-16 22:57:28 EDT, you write: Does anyone know how to make high potency colloidal silver and the equipment I'll need to do it? I've had Lyme Disease for about 6 years and have made low parts per million colloidal silver. But unless maybe I drink about 3 glasses a day it doesn't seem to be helping enough. Hi John, I have Lyme at least 11 years, misdiagnosed for the first six, treated with continuous oral antibiotics for for the last five. I tried making my own at about 30 ppm as Marsha Hallet has done. I didn't see a big difference, maybe just a homeopathic type relief for a few hours with each dose, no actual die off. So I purchased a high potency product, 1100 PPM, from the health food store. It is made by Innovative Natural Products. Of course expensive, but I didn't need so much. I did have some die off and had fewer colds, better breathing and concentration, but I was combining it with antibiotics. After a few months I tried to take less CS and go without the oral antibiotics, as I was experiencing severe hives and heartburn. I got through about two months on CS alone. I was OK for probably about a month. I can usually only last about two weeks off of antibiotics. I had a hair analysis after the first two months of heavy use, and it showed a moderate elevation of silver. Doc said it was Ok, but I was concerned, so I lowered the CS. I think I may still give it another try along with the antibiotics. This company has a Lyme protocol for their CS which they will gladly give you if you call. They answer right away, no recordings, and are always very helpful. Innovative Natural Products 1-800-893-7467 4oz.retails for $69.95. They also carry a 200 ppm and 500 ppm and nasal spray at about 200 ppm which I also liked. If you find out how to make a CS product that works for you, please let me know. Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to:
Re: High potency colloidal silver
Have made colloidal silver for about a month. But haven't been persistently taking it yet and just increased the amount. Drank approximately 32 ounces in the last two days. I have a lot of work to do. John jo...@access.mountain.net Am also drinking alkalie ion mineral water, trying to raise my blood PH to a high healthy level. Theoretically, if my blood PH is raised high enough, the bacteria shouldn't be able to live in such an environment. Does anyone have any comments about blood PH? -Original Message- From: Donna Earnest mariedo...@worldnet.att.net To: silver silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, July 18, 1998 7:21 AM Subject: Re: High potency colloidal silver John J, I am in the same boat you are. Are you increasing about every two weeks, it seems that when I did that is when it worked alittle better. I make about 30ppm. I am also wondering if the particle size has something to do with it. How long have you been taking that quantity of silver. Donna -- Does anyone know how to make high potency colloidal silver and the equipment I'll need to do it? I've had Lyme Disease for about 6 years and have made low parts per million colloidal silver. But unless maybe I drink about 3 glasses a day it doesn't seem to be helping enough. Would appreciate some info. Thanks John J jo...@access.mountain.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: High potency colloidal silver
Thanks Susan. I'll let you know if I find something. -Original Message- From: aqua...@aol.com aqua...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 6:27 PM Subject: Re: High potency colloidal silver In a message dated 98-07-16 22:57:28 EDT, you write: Does anyone know how to make high potency colloidal silver and the equipment I'll need to do it? I've had Lyme Disease for about 6 years and have made low parts per million colloidal silver. But unless maybe I drink about 3 glasses a day it doesn't seem to be helping enough. Hi John, I have Lyme at least 11 years, misdiagnosed for the first six, treated with continuous oral antibiotics for for the last five. I tried making my own at about 30 ppm as Marsha Hallet has done. I didn't see a big difference, maybe just a homeopathic type relief for a few hours with each dose, no actual die off. So I purchased a high potency product, 1100 PPM, from the health food store. It is made by Innovative Natural Products. Of course expensive, but I didn't need so much. I did have some die off and had fewer colds, better breathing and concentration, but I was combining it with antibiotics. After a few months I tried to take less CS and go without the oral antibiotics, as I was experiencing severe hives and heartburn. I got through about two months on CS alone. I was OK for probably about a month. I can usually only last about two weeks off of antibiotics. I had a hair analysis after the first two months of heavy use, and it showed a moderate elevation of silver. Doc said it was Ok, but I was concerned, so I lowered the CS. I think I may still give it another try along with the antibiotics. This company has a Lyme protocol for their CS which they will gladly give you if you call. They answer right away, no recordings, and are always very helpful. Innovative Natural Products 1-800-893-7467 4oz.retails for $69.95. They also carry a 200 ppm and 500 ppm and nasal spray at about 200 ppm which I also liked. If you find out how to make a CS product that works for you, please let me know. Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
High potency colloidal silver
Does anyone know how to make high potency colloidal silver and the equipment I'll need to do it? I've had Lyme Disease for about 6 years and have made low parts per million colloidal silver. But unless maybe I drink about 3 glasses a day it doesn't seem to be helping enough. Would appreciate some info. Thanks John J jo...@access.mountain.net
